Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: A dumb birthday game from November 24, 1994 graces the airwaves again with the title trending the Buck Lee junior.
And speaking of birthdays, a very happy one to my sister from another Mr. Norm's firstborn, Sonja Nathan Bradstreet. Now back to our regularly scheduled program already in progress.
The players, Jenny and Plymouth. Joe from Revere. Addie and Everett. Judy from Pennsylvania. Mike Epstein in studio, Keith Shields, producing and playing in studio, Jack Hart and Traffic. The Birthdays, Oscar Robertson, William Buckley Jr. John Lindsay, Pete Best, Garrison Kanan. And then we move on to November 27th for Eddie Rabbit, Buffalo Bob Smith and Robin Givens.
Please check out the links for ways to support the show. I do. Thank you.
Episode 262, trending the Buck Lee Jr. Crunches its way to your ears.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: Now we have Jenny, who's down in Plymouth. Hello, Jenny.
[00:01:12] Speaker C: Hi, Mom.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: You all excited about playing? I bet you I can just tell.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: Oh, I sure am.
[00:01:17] Speaker B: Okay, we have Joe, who's in Revere. Hi, Joe. Hello.
Hi, Joe. And we have my friend Andy from Everett.
[00:01:25] Speaker D: Hello, Norman.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: You didn't happen to see that Everett High School game, did you? On cable and Everett.
[00:01:30] Speaker C: I've been kind of. We have a thermometer. You know, one of those money raising thermometers. One down in Edward Square and one in Glendale. And I've been watching it rise. And they had to raise $80,000. And they went over the top, though.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: I know that. But they. They finally played this past night.
I'm trying to get somebody from Everett who's seen the game on cable telling us to tell us about it.
[00:01:52] Speaker C: Well, the kids have worked real hard at raising this money. I mean, they were all over this town.
[00:01:57] Speaker B: No, I realized they raised the money, but I want to know about the. Now. They raised the money, they sent the team down and now we want to know about the game.
[00:02:05] Speaker C: I don't know, Norm. I get home from work too late. When I got home, I had a house full of company that I didn't really want.
[00:02:11] Speaker B: I don't buy those excuses.
[00:02:13] Speaker E: Come on.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: I want to know about the game. And you're telling me. You're telling me how busy you are and how they raise the money and all that. Now they're down there. We had an interview, I think it was with Bill Watson this past morning with somebody from. I don't know. It was the athletic director, somebody who played along with Bobby Leo. As a matter of fact, back in the 60s, he was a football player and he was talking about the enthusiasm and the excitement in Everett and how all the fans were backing them and a lot were going down there.
Not one person has called me about having seen the game. But I know they lost. I hope that doesn't break your heart.
[00:02:49] Speaker C: They did lose because they're good kids. If they lost, it was a hard lose because they fought hard.
[00:02:57] Speaker B: You don't know that you didn't get the Everett, though.
[00:03:01] Speaker C: I know what good kids they are.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: But you know they played hard. And you know that the Florida team probably cheated.
[00:03:07] Speaker C: That's absolutely right.
[00:03:09] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:03:09] Speaker C: And it's probably every time something wrong went against Everett, the referee wasn't looking.
[00:03:15] Speaker B: I, I, I, you.
[00:03:16] Speaker D: I'd like to have her as a fan for me.
[00:03:18] Speaker F: I'll tell you that.
[00:03:19] Speaker D: I'd like to have her on my side.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: She, boy, she would be loyal, wouldn't she? I'll tell you, doesn't win or lose. She's for you no matter what you do.
[00:03:26] Speaker C: Hey, I'd be right out there in my little calico cheerleading outfit.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: That's right. That's Andy. Because she know she isn't enough. Yeah, she's a farm girl out there. Where was the game played?
[00:03:36] Speaker D: Was it played in Orlando? Was it played in one of those of the other cities down there?
[00:03:41] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: You don't know any of that. All you know is that they the thermometers went up because they raised money.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: Every morning at the bus stop.
[00:03:48] Speaker D: The reason I'm asking is because I. I'm trying to think if I can find out where the game was played. Maybe while I'm in the newsroom before.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: You get out of here at 5.
[00:03:58] Speaker D: I can try and find somebody.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Somebody?
Yeah, Somebody suggested we call the Orlando newspaper. Call, I think the Sentinel. Orlando Sentinel. That they were. So it might have been in Orlando.
What kind of a news station are we? I'm sitting around here all night hoping somebody will call to tell me what happened. That doesn't seem right. We ought to be telling them what happened.
[00:04:20] Speaker D: Well, we have to get our information somewhere north.
[00:04:22] Speaker B: I, I guess that's true, Judy in Pennsylvania. Wouldn't it be funny if Judy knew all the details of the game and doesn't even live here?
[00:04:31] Speaker E: Sorry.
But we did have Thanksgiving Day games in Pennsylvania back when.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: You don't have them now, apparently. It's not the big rivalries that we have here though, is it? Or is it?
[00:04:43] Speaker E: What happened was they.
They changed around and consolidated a lot of our schools. So a lot of the old rivalries went by the wayside.
Which was bad. Just left you with nobody to hate.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Well, listen, nobody to plan Thanksgiving. That's right. Okay.
[00:05:00] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:05:00] Speaker E: And we used to, you know, we'd never be home in time for Thanksgiving D and it would always get cold. And so we get bought out. So we like.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Oh, that's. Now you. Obviously you didn't have the same kind of spirit we have here. I can tell by the way you talk.
No, you know.
[00:05:16] Speaker E: Oh, I had great spirit. Then I just got lost along the way.
[00:05:20] Speaker B: Yeah. We also have, we have Mike Epstein, who's playing the game with us.
[00:05:26] Speaker D: Good morning.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Good morning, Mike. It's nice to see you. We also have Keith Shields, of course, another producer here at wbz. Gobble, gobble. Yep, gobble gobble.
[00:05:36] Speaker D: You too, turkey.
[00:05:36] Speaker B: You okay? Nice to have you with us.
I'm talking with.
With Keith. Feels like I'm talking with him for the first time. He's been sitting out there in the control room the entire night. I've always wondered about that. People always do that.
[00:05:51] Speaker F: They sit there and they say, good morning.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Good morning.
[00:05:54] Speaker F: It's the first time they've seen each other all day when in all fact.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: They'Ve been working proudly together. Well, as a matter of fact, you'll hear that after 5 o' clock this morning. They say, Joe Stapleton or whoever, probably you can tell who's unimportant in this station by the ones who are working today. The important people got the day off. And so I want to kiss butt a little. That's right. That's right. Kiss butt. Oh, my goodness. So you can tell by this cruise, we have three right here in the studio, they're losers. Yes. And I would think. Let me check in with Jack Hart. You're one of the losers too, because you're working. Oh, by the way, hello.
[00:06:30] Speaker G: And it's nice to talk to you, Norm.
That's right.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: But that's what they do in the morning. Hey, Joe. Good morning. Hi. Good morning. And they say that about 9,000 times out the morning like they have never talked to each other.
[00:06:43] Speaker G: That's to create the illusion some people are just getting into. Exactly. A little later on than the. If they start at five. Well, the good morning is terrific for the people who are in the car at five, but at nine in the afternoon, you don't want Gary Lapierre. Nine o' clock in the morning, you don't want Gary LapPierre to say, yeah, I know I've talked to you before, Joe. We just tell us what's going on.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: Well, why not? That would be honest. And that should be our approach, don't you think? You watch some of these the morning, like the morning shows on television. I don't normally watch television because I listen only to WBC and, and you'll, you'll hear them say now he will go to Brian Gumbel and the new. No Brian Gumbel does. He throws it over to the news.
Whomever who it is, it's a guy with real neat hair. The guy with the neat hair size burning, something like that.
And anyway, the guy with a nice neat hair will say thank you and good morning to you, Brian. You know, like they haven't. They probably been there in the studio even before they go on the air. They're there about two hours ahead of time.
[00:07:46] Speaker D: But it's like Jack said, it's the illusion make people feel that as they're coming in, being welcomed for the very first time that particular morning.
The other people are also there for the very first time that particular morning. It's that feeling of closeness and family that keeps these shows running.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Well, I would rather have honesty than closeness of family. I say that, I say, never mind. You never know. They might be.
[00:08:08] Speaker F: They might hate each other too.
[00:08:10] Speaker B: Oh, in some cases that's quite true.
[00:08:12] Speaker F: Once the mic's off, once the camera's off.
[00:08:15] Speaker G: Well, you see, it's the extension of closeness from the. To the listeners, you see. So it's not. She's not actually saying hello to the other person. He's saying hello to the. To the listeners and the viewers.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: Oh, shut up, will you Just shut the hell up.
What kind of talk is that? We don't need that. You sound like a teacher at Ed Emerson College or something.
First year radio broadcasting or something. And not only that, we take. We stay this close, not too close to the microphone. So it sounds like this. And it started, but just back about here.
That's right. And try to keep your sinuses unclogged. Say, don't come on talking like this, you know, especially if you talk like this and close to the microphone. It's really hard for people to understand.
I'm giving a lecture now. Now somebody, somebody would have paid billions for that kind of a course.
Shall we go on with the dumb birthday game? What do you think? Here, Here we're having so much fun. It's a shame to interrupt it with that.
Okay, today is, of course, November 24th. As we all know, it's.
And it's Thanksgiving Day and it's the birthday of Oscar Roberts. Speaking of sports and basketball, were we talking about sports. Yes, we were. Yeah, we were. We were talking about the Charlotte Hornets being defeated by the Boston Celtics. Oscar Roberts, let me tell you something about him. He is.
He.
First of all, he's a former basketball star. So that'll give you a clue roughly. He played. He played God position, averaging 25.7 points per game. He was MVP in 1964.
The 1976 Oscar Robertson Federal court decision is credited with boosting free agency, as in. And it's also causing a player salaries to soar in the NBA.
[00:10:09] Speaker D: So we can blame him.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: We can blame him for that. Yeah. And Oscar Robertson, you know, is so tall. How tall is he? He is so tall. He was born on November 24th. 25th and 26th.
Okay. Jenny, how old do you think Oscar Robertson is he? The guy called a big O or something like that?
[00:10:33] Speaker C: 40.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Is he called a big O?
[00:10:37] Speaker D: I couldn't tell you.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: Nobody could tell us. Okay, 40.
Jenny from Plymouth says 40. What do you say, Joe?
[00:10:44] Speaker C: I'll try 48.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: 48. And Addie, what do you say, Addie?
[00:10:50] Speaker C: Oh, 55.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Eddie says 55. And Judy?
[00:10:55] Speaker E: Judy says 46.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: Judy says 46.
Okay. And Keith.
[00:11:03] Speaker F: How about five and the big.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: Oh, 50. 50 and even 50. Okay. What do you think, Jack? Oh, 44. 40. 44, you're right.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
[00:11:21] Speaker E: Say that and forgot.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: No use. When you said 46, you were, you. You were very close to that.
[00:11:26] Speaker D: Hold on.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Don't. Don't give the. Actually, no, no, no. I'm not going to give the edge. You actually. She said close to what? No, she's. Yeah, she was saying she was close to what Jack said. But we don't. We're not saying Jack was right or wrong.
Okay, Mike, what do you think?
[00:11:41] Speaker D: I think he's 51 today.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: 51 years old today. Okay. Actually he's 56.
That was like that. That was like.
That was like an old Greek course.
No, actually eddie. Eddie said 55, so she came the closest. Did you know that, Eddie? Or you just.
[00:12:01] Speaker C: No, but if in the 60s and 70s he had to be in his 30s.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: That's right. Well, he didn't have to. He could have been younger.
[00:12:10] Speaker C: But that's true. But approximately around there. Late twenties.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah. No sense in questioning you because you actually came very close to whatever kind of reasoning you used. Worked out.
You're okay.
[00:12:23] Speaker C: Usually when I play, I. This, this group sounds much better. Usually I end up playing with a grave digger and a politician and an anthropology professor from Yahoo University.
This group sounds so much better. Tonight, it's.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: It's a very upbeat group, isn't it?
[00:12:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: It's like. It's like they care about the prize they're going to win, which, of course, is a piece of junk, but what the heck. William Buckley, Jr. As you say, William Buckley, Jr. Who has the most.
[00:12:57] Speaker E: William Buckley, Jr.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: I can't quite imitate his style. He's a.
Got to keep your teeth together.
Winning Barkley, Jr.
Don't move your lips.
[00:13:10] Speaker D: Don't move your lips at all.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: You don't move the lips alone.
Just don't kind of mumble through it.
[00:13:16] Speaker G: Matter of fact, I saw him in a restaurant once and the waitress said, you know, what would you like to have? He said, or you can only eat soup.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: That's right.
And intravenously. Just intravenously do that.
Do you think he's home and he does that at home. To pass me the peas, if you will, A little bit of the cranberry sauce.
I have a little. The white meat of the. Pardon me, but I hope this political correct breast. I'd like a little bit of the breast.
Don't you think he's so pompous when he talks? Talks? That. That's got to be a phony. I mean, nobody naturally talks that way. I don't say that simply because he's a conservative, but I say that because he's pompous and he's a phony.
[00:14:07] Speaker D: I wonder how he talks when he's off camera, when he's off mic.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: Hey, Mir, let me have a beer there. Yeah, yeah. In a big dirty mug. What do you say, sweetheart? No, I think he's. He's a very bright guy. I'm not deriding his.
[00:14:21] Speaker E: He plays the harpsichord.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: You can't be all bad if you play the harpsichord.
[00:14:26] Speaker D: He probably won't play the harpsichord anymore.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: No, he probably. He probably sent for the harpsichord kit. You ever read the Saturday.
Oh, it used to be the Saturday Review. Used to have. Though the New Yorker magazine has those now. Sent away for a harpsichord kit. Can you see him on his hands and knees building a harpsichord?
Only you see my screwdriver.
Anyway, I think we're going far afield here. William Buckley. We'll start with you, Mike. What do you think?
[00:14:53] Speaker D: I think he's 62.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: 62. And Jack.
[00:14:59] Speaker G: 83.
[00:15:01] Speaker B: 83.
Okay. I once did my invitation and called William Buckley a phony in front of David Brudno.
I thought he was going to hit me right off the head with this because he's a big fan of his and I Said, don't you think he's a little pompous, David? Oh, really?
Anyway, he didn't seem to think so, but what the heck. Keith, what do you think? How old is William vocal Jr. 71. 71. Okay.
You get a lot of willpower. You're the only person who hasn't tried to imitate his style.
[00:15:37] Speaker F: I'm not good at imitations. Not even close.
[00:15:41] Speaker B: Judy, be interesting. Hear a woman imitate him.
[00:15:44] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: You want to try?
[00:15:46] Speaker D: Please do.
[00:15:48] Speaker E: Well, I think William Buckley is 66.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Was that an imitation?
[00:15:56] Speaker E: I don't know. He sort of breathes a lot.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: That was really dry.
[00:16:00] Speaker E: Do you think he's a heavy breather?
[00:16:03] Speaker B: I have no way of knowing if he is a heavy breather. We see the guy's been calling you this past three weeks with dirty calls.
[00:16:11] Speaker E: That's the one.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Do you think William Barkley makes obscene.
[00:16:15] Speaker G: Phone calls counting houses?
[00:16:18] Speaker B: Wouldn't that be funny?
[00:16:20] Speaker E: Stops.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: I'd like.
I'd like to think that Newt Gingrich said, make some scene phone calls. You know, I'd like to think there was something. Anyway, Gingrich was born in my hometown. Now, you know, why wouldn't that. Was that Harris? Harrisburg, Pa. Oh, he's from Harrisburg.
[00:16:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: Oh, then he moved down to Atlanta.
[00:16:41] Speaker E: Yeah, that's why.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: To Georgia.
[00:16:43] Speaker E: He doesn't have a natural Southern accent.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: No, he doesn't. Isn't that interesting? He's a carpet. He's a. He's a. He's a northern carpet bagger.
[00:16:50] Speaker F: He's got that Donahue hair, though.
[00:16:53] Speaker B: Like, fluffy Donahue. Like.
You mean like the. Up his hair?
[00:16:58] Speaker C: Put it.
[00:16:58] Speaker F: Put his head in the dryer for a while and. And you got.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Don't put that right.
[00:17:05] Speaker F: Well, I just have this hair obsession tonight, for some reason.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: Okay.
Andy. Andy, how old you think William Buckley is?
[00:17:14] Speaker C: I'd say.
[00:17:19] Speaker G: Very.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: We had to tape this and send it to him for a Christmas.
[00:17:24] Speaker C: I'd say that he's 68.
[00:17:28] Speaker G: Could be on for each cock's birthday, too.
[00:17:32] Speaker E: You guys sound like the guys who go to these clubs and fall asleep in their chairs.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: I know you're laughing because you feel you have said something humorous, but the rest of us are gaping, wondering what it is, what that means.
[00:17:47] Speaker E: You see them in pictures. They go to these men's clubs.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: Oh, I see.
[00:17:51] Speaker E: And they sit in these easy chairs and.
[00:17:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:17:55] Speaker G: High paneled rooms. And then the high level chairs.
[00:17:58] Speaker E: Fireplaces.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: That's right. Reading. Reading the Wall Street Journal.
[00:18:04] Speaker E: Drinking their scotch.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that part's okay.
[00:18:08] Speaker E: I know.
[00:18:09] Speaker C: I Thought you'd like that.
[00:18:10] Speaker B: That part I like. Yeah. Hey, Joe, what do you think? How old do you think William Buckley is today? I'll say 72 and no imitation. Now you're a good person and a kind person.
And Jenny, what do you say?
[00:18:24] Speaker E: 69.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: That's exactly right.
Was that a just a guess or did you really know?
[00:18:30] Speaker C: No, I didn't.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: No. William Buckley Jr. Oh, he's been around a long time. Yeah, he is 69. Well, we've had people guess older than that a long time. Jack Hart guessed 83.
So yours, yours was actually one of the lower.
But anyway, that's that ground goes to you. You and Eddie have won a piece as we go to John Lindsay. Remember the mayor of New York?
[00:18:52] Speaker D: Oh, yes.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: A good looking guy, a very sharp guy. I always liked him.
I don't recall the year he was mayor of New York. It's late 60s, wasn't it?
[00:19:03] Speaker E: Was it early 70s?
[00:19:05] Speaker B: I don't know. Why don't you take the first guess at his age then Judy Norman.
Let's see. I love the way you say my name, Norman. Oh, my years have turned just turning red.
[00:19:21] Speaker E: I'm trying to figure out the decades here.
[00:19:25] Speaker G: There's 10 years in each one.
[00:19:28] Speaker E: I think he's. Gee whiz, I'm thinking he's like around maybe.
I have to say 66 for him too. Isn't that terrible?
[00:19:40] Speaker B: No, nothing is terrible.
[00:19:42] Speaker E: I'm one track mind.
[00:19:43] Speaker B: Okay, 66 wasn't terrible either.
[00:19:46] Speaker E: Yeah, then I don't have to reuse the same numbers over again.
I don't have to get different numbers, I just recycle.
[00:19:53] Speaker F: It's very conscientious.
[00:19:55] Speaker G: Maybe if we have somebody that's 99, you could stand on your head.
[00:19:58] Speaker E: That's what I thought.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
And Joe, what do you think I'm gonna go high with?
[00:20:05] Speaker C: 80.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: 80, okay. And Jack, John Lindsay, John Lindsey.
[00:20:12] Speaker G: Yeah, that's his name. Edward Koch is in his 70s. I think so. It's been that long.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: This guy thinks really logically, doesn't he? You really do think very logically. You're okay.
[00:20:24] Speaker G: Well, you know, I try and try and put things together in a logical fashion. I'll say 85.
[00:20:29] Speaker B: 85.
Okay. And Jenny.
[00:20:34] Speaker E: 73.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: 73 says Jenny.
[00:20:38] Speaker C: Andy, how about a spirited 76?
[00:20:44] Speaker B: That was beautiful.
Oh, that is.
Yeah, that is just lovely. And Mike, what do you think I'd.
[00:20:52] Speaker D: Say using Jack's math because I'm not going to do my own. But I, I just wrote down notes while he was figuring things Out.
I think he's 82 years old.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: 82. And Keith, I was overly patriotic last.
[00:21:06] Speaker F: Year, so I'm gonna say 77.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: 70. You were overly patriotic. Isn't it patriotic? Oh, patriotic, okay.
I wonder what the patriotic was. But anyway, actually, John Lindsay today, November 24, is 73. Oh, that's exactly what Jenny said.
[00:21:28] Speaker E: Somebody has a book. No, really?
[00:21:32] Speaker C: No. He was young when he went in there.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, he was what?
[00:21:36] Speaker E: He was.
[00:21:37] Speaker C: He was quite young when he went in.
[00:21:38] Speaker B: Yes, yes, actually in the 30s, but.
[00:21:41] Speaker E: It was back in the 60s, I remember.
[00:21:43] Speaker F: Wow.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. He was quite a good looking guy and a great colorful kind of guy. I don't know whether he was a great mayor or not, not having lived in New York City, but he was. It must have been fun having him as mayor.
Must have been just so darn much fun having, you know, like Tom Menino, I suspect was probably very qualified be mayor of Boston. But he's not a whole lot of laughs, you know, I just suppose it doesn't really matter as long as you. You're efficient at the job and you know what you're doing.
[00:22:12] Speaker E: Give him a chance.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: But wouldn't you like a guy just to spritz the seltzer down his pants and did funny stuff?
Not that. No, I don't mean that egg cot.
[00:22:23] Speaker F: Rate'S up there with Menino in his speaking style though.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: No, well, but Kot is a. Is a. A real character, you know. Manino is just a hard working, even tempered kind of guy.
[00:22:36] Speaker F: Have you ever heard Ecot speak though?
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Uses the word he said.
[00:22:40] Speaker E: He kind of talks like. Like this. And after every word he always puts.
[00:22:46] Speaker B: An eye on it.
I never noticed that son of a gun that. Well, that puts a whole new picture on this man. Makes us understand him just a little bit better just by that analysis.
Okay.
[00:22:58] Speaker D: Myself, I'd like to see Tom Andino ride a fire TR every now and then like Ray Flynn used to do.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I. Because I suspect again, I think Manino is probably one of the really good mayors of the city. I think he knows his job and is good at it. I just wish he'd do something really stupid or crazy or something. Just add a little more color.
William Buckler. Anyway, Jenny has two correct answers and Andy has one. As we go to Pete Best. Remember, you know that name Pete Best.
[00:23:26] Speaker D: Is that original drummer for the Beatles.
[00:23:28] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. His real name. Randolph Peter Best.
Born in Madras, India.
His father was collecting for the United Jewish Appeal throughout that area, as I recall.
[00:23:42] Speaker E: And he drowned in Plaid.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: He what? He drowned in plaid he drowned in plaid? That's right.
He bought a chameleon and he put it on plaid the thing had just exhausted itself When I was a kid, you. You got a chameleon, you see because it changed colors depending on what kind of fabric it was sitting on, see? So we put it on Ah, forget it Anyway, did you know the first name for the Beatles? You probably all know the Silver Beetles.
[00:24:13] Speaker G: Were the quarry men oh, yes, you.
[00:24:15] Speaker D: Knew that Johnny and the Quarrymen or.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: Something like that no, just that the Quarrymen performed at Pete's mother's club, the Kasbah after some months they had a dispute with their drummer and Pete sat in with them and he was the best, I guess he was the best oh yes, that's very good now shut up.
[00:24:34] Speaker C: He put out an album called the.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Best Beatles I don't think that has too much to do with Pete Best but we certainly thank you, Eddie.
[00:24:43] Speaker C: Hey, yeah, Every little bit helps in.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: August well, some little bits hurt a lot.
Doesn't always work that way in August 1960 he became a beetle. Doesn't say who that other drummer was now there's a man he ought to dig up to find out who he was I always thought Peter Best, you know, got side sidetracked, got thrown out and stuff but there's actually a guy before him who got thrown out even before he did I had never known that I didn't know that either but he, he became a Beatle in. In 1960 when the Beatles were on the verge of success following their first EMI recording session Pete was told that he was being replaced by Ringo Starr the evening Ringo made his first Cavern appearance a Pete Best fan gave George Harrison a black eye I don't know if that helped you guess their ages or his age anymore but that's kind of interesting little stuff that you hear on this program oh, like it's George's.
[00:25:43] Speaker C: Fault.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah, well, maybe it was maybe George suggested to John Lennon or whoever the leader was that get rid of this Pete Best and bring in Ringo Starr who can't play the drums any better than anybody but he looks adorable, has a cute name, dude, the little drummer man.
[00:26:05] Speaker G: Actually, one time years ago, a girl that I used to go out with was a big Beatles fan and we used to end up going to a Beatles convention now and again and actually met Pete Best did you? Yeah, he was angry how old was he?
[00:26:21] Speaker B: Did you really meet Pete Best? Or you're making up a story he was there signing autographs well, now, where Was the convention.
[00:26:26] Speaker G: It was in Connecticut. Those must be 1985.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: Okay, well, listen, let me ask you, first of all, how old you think Pete Best is? Big Jack the.
[00:26:37] Speaker G: I believe he's an angry baker now.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Is he a baker? Yeah.
[00:26:43] Speaker G: He said it could have been a visionary. But look at this and make the rules.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: 51. 51.
Okay. Eddie, what do you think?
[00:26:59] Speaker C: 52.
[00:27:01] Speaker F: Okay.
[00:27:01] Speaker B: And Jenny?
[00:27:03] Speaker E: 56.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: Okay. Keith, what do you say?
54.
Keith says 54. And Mike says.
[00:27:13] Speaker D: Mike says 50.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: 50. 53. 53. Okay. Joe? 57.
And what do you say, Judy?
[00:27:27] Speaker E: Obviously, he's not 66.
[00:27:30] Speaker D: Therefore, you never know. He could have been the oldest member of the original group.
[00:27:35] Speaker E: He could have been.
[00:27:36] Speaker D: Could have been the mentor for all the rest of them.
[00:27:37] Speaker G: That's why they fired him. His teeth kept on flying up.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:27:44] Speaker C: Let's see.
[00:27:45] Speaker E: 55.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: Okay. Actually, Pete Best is 53, which is what Mike said.
Hit it right on the button.
So we have two for. For Jenny, one for Addie and one for Mike and the Gosh and Canaan. You know, Gar Cana.
[00:28:01] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: He was married to. He's a playwright. That's right. Screenwriter. He wrote.
What was that one? It was years ago. Play with Judy Holiday.
Born Yesterday. Born Yesterday. That was it.
Who did you say?
[00:28:21] Speaker C: I said, bells are ringing.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: I don't know whether he wrote that one or not. Judy Holiday was in there. And that was a. A play as well as a movie. It was a delightful score. It was a great play. I thought it was a lot of fun. I don't know whether he wrote that. He wrote Adam's Rib and Pat, Mike, the. The ones with the. Spencer Tracy and Katherine Hepburn in it.
He was married to Ruth Gordon. They're from this area. He's from Rochester, New York, originally, and she's from around here. She was from Walliston. That's right. And he was so devoted to her. I remember interviewing him one time.
He wrote a number of books also on various other subjects, like why the retirement age is 65 and why it makes no sense.
And how come it was picked originally. Why 65?
And apparently at that time, way back when it first was picked, hardly anybody lived to be 65. So they could give you your pension. And knowing that they never had to pay off on it, you know, because of the limited age span people had. And there were a number of other reasons why that date was picked up.
But a very, very bright, interesting man who was really devoted so much to Ruth Gordon, it must have just absolutely destroyed him when she died.
Anyway, let's. Let's start with you, Jenny. How old do you think she is? He is rather. Garson kanan.
[00:29:39] Speaker E: Oh, I'd say 93.
[00:29:45] Speaker B: 93.
Okay. Joe, what do you say? I see 68.
Joe says 68. And Addie.
[00:29:58] Speaker C: 72.
[00:30:00] Speaker B: A lot of. A lot of variances here. Yeah. Huge, huge span. Huge, Huge, huge, huge, huge baby.
Judy, how old do you think Arson Canaan is?
[00:30:12] Speaker E: Well, he was younger than Ruth Gordon, and they always wrote articles about how they were one of the couples where the husband was younger than the wife.
[00:30:23] Speaker B: Yes, And.
[00:30:29] Speaker E: I think maybe 80 this time.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: Okay, 80. And Keith, 83.
Didn't seem to be too terribly sure of yourself with that.
[00:30:48] Speaker D: You put it in the form of a question, just like Alex Trebek would have to.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: That's right.
Jack, what do you say?
[00:30:55] Speaker G: 86.
[00:30:57] Speaker B: 86.
[00:30:58] Speaker E: Yeah. I think that's more like it.
[00:31:03] Speaker B: You're not sure of yourself either, are you, Judy? No.
[00:31:06] Speaker E: You know.
[00:31:06] Speaker B: Okay, Mike, what do you think?
[00:31:09] Speaker D: I think that he's.
I'm gonna go with 85.
[00:31:13] Speaker B: 85.
Okay. Garson Canaan actually is 82.
And I think you got a Judy. I'll see. You said 80.
You said 80.
[00:31:25] Speaker E: Oh, Norman, I don't play these games just to win and compete with people and get your tacky price.
I play it for the good.
I'm glad I won.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: No, you didn't actually win, now that you've gone through that speech. No, I'm dou. Checking my figures. Yeah. Keith. Keith Shield said 83. Oh, so he was within a year. You were within two years, which was very good.
[00:31:48] Speaker E: I don't win.
[00:31:49] Speaker F: I actually said 83.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: 83.
[00:31:52] Speaker F: You put it in the question.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. And you were very uncertain.
[00:31:55] Speaker F: That was my acting.
[00:31:57] Speaker B: Oh, that was acting. I thought. I thought it was just. I thought you were just being wimpy about. About that. I knew all.
[00:32:03] Speaker F: All along.
[00:32:03] Speaker B: Oh, okay. So. So, yeah.
[00:32:06] Speaker E: Well, is this a dumb birthday game or is this.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: You know, I don't really know the answer to that, but I'll find out. I'll be with you right after this message.
Okay, we're gonna go to Sunday, November 27, because there aren't too many other interesting people born on this day. There are some others, and I'm sure they consider themselves interesting. I find them, however, terribly boring. So we'll go to Sunday, November 27th. One is Eddie Rabbit. I. Although I don't find him terribly interesting either.
But he may be better known. He was born Eddie Thompson. Thomas.
Eddie Thomas. And he changed his Name to Eddie Rabbit.
[00:32:45] Speaker E: He's one of them country western singers.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: That's right.
His biggest hit was. And he was born in Brooklyn, New York.
Country western singer coming from Brooklyn, New York sounds a little weird, but what the heck. I Love a Rainy Night. He recorded that in 1980. That was his big tune.
He also wrote Kentucky Rain.
He seems to have a kind of a rain fetish. That was a hit that Elvis Presley had. I don't have the year for that. But that's Eddie Rabbit that interesting. Aren't we learning a lot, kids?
[00:33:18] Speaker D: Yes, we are, professor.
[00:33:21] Speaker C: Okay, pay attention, class.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: Okay, Joe, what do you think? How old do you think Eddie Rabbit will be on Sunday?
Don't know who he is, but I'll go with 46.
Actually. If I were not in radio, having played some of his records because it was on the playlist, I wouldn't know who he was either.
And I'm not proud of the fact that I do know who he is.
Andy, what do you say?
[00:33:46] Speaker C: I'll say 39.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: You're just goading me, aren't you?
[00:33:51] Speaker C: Yes, I am.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Well, you're not, you know, gonna get me to fall, you see, for that.
And I'm not a don gonna say 39, so you. You just wasted. You just wasted your time. Addie Shooty, what do you say?
[00:34:12] Speaker E: Eddie rabbit.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: Eddie rabbit.
57 Heinz 57 or 57 varieties?
You have a sharp, wild wit, Judy, so just knock it off, okay? Keith, what do you think?
[00:34:32] Speaker F: Eddie Rabbit is a hair.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: Oh, geez.
49. 49.
[00:34:41] Speaker C: Boy, you hopped right on that one, didn't you?
[00:34:43] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know if I could.
[00:34:45] Speaker G: Reproduce such a laugh.
[00:34:48] Speaker B: I want to talk to you about rabbits with that reproduction thing, by the way. They got it. They get a bad rap for that reproduction thing. They're not as promiscuous as you would think, and they don't have that many babies. It's a. It's kind of. It's.
I just get. I just get so angry when I hear people attack rabbits for that.
[00:35:07] Speaker E: They have a good publicist.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: I think they have a very bad publicist. Otherwise, you know, boy, she does it like a rabbit. You know, that kind of stuff.
[00:35:18] Speaker E: Anyway, they got a new one.
[00:35:20] Speaker B: What's that?
[00:35:21] Speaker E: They got a new publicist who says they don't reproduce like rabbits anymore.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: No, they don't. Actually. Other animals reproduce at a much greater rate, or at least the same kind of rate. Rabbits are not unusual along those lines. Let me show you my. Hold on a minute. Will you get the slides? Everybody get the slides of the rabbits.
[00:35:37] Speaker C: Now.
[00:35:40] Speaker B: Jack, what do you. How old do you think Eddie Rabbit is?
[00:35:42] Speaker G: Eddie Rabbit? Let me see.
Well, you got to figure Kentucky rain. That was probably before 1977.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Let's see, in 1970.
Okay. I love a rainy night. Was 1980.
48.
48.
Okay. And Mike, what do you say?
[00:36:11] Speaker D: I was gonna say 47, but I'm. Now I'm rethinking that.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: Now.
[00:36:17] Speaker D: Now I'm just rethinking my entire answer.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: Okay, that's okay, then.
We have no rules. I'm just checking the. The rule book here.
[00:36:26] Speaker D: In fact, I was gonna make a comment about how we got the name Eddie Rabbitfoot, but you just ruined that whole thing by saying that you didn't want to hear about rabbits and reproduction.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: No, you know, actually, how he did pick the name Eddie Rabbit, I have no idea. Instead of Eddie Thomas, you're gonna say something wildly uproarious.
[00:36:43] Speaker D: Say something.
Well, I'm not even going to go into it. It's just not worth it. Now I'm gonna say he ruined his whole day.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: I don't even know what the question was anymore.
[00:36:55] Speaker D: I'm gonna say that Eddie is 47.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: 47. Okay. And the beautiful, the very lovely lady from Plymouth, the very exotic Jenny. What do you say?
[00:37:07] Speaker E: I say 45.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: Okay.
You could have at least thanked me for the compliments. No, no, no. All business.
You're used to that. I suppose I should have thought that. Okay, Eddie. Eddie Rabbit actually is 53.
Oh, let me see. I think Judy may have gotten that.
[00:37:28] Speaker E: But I don't want to start that again.
[00:37:30] Speaker B: I don't want to say that without really checking.
[00:37:32] Speaker E: I'll catch so excited. And then I'll just be disappointed.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: No, I think. No, that's true. Now, you said 57. Nobody came within. You came within four years.
So the other side would be 49, which. Which is what Keith said.
So I think you both.
I'd say you both tied. There are two. Two winners that time.
Judy and Keith were real winners.
[00:37:58] Speaker E: Wow.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Keith has got two correct answers, and so he's tied with Jenny and Judy and Addie and Mike all have one apiece. And the Jack and Joe.
Oh, that's pitiful. I don't really care to go through that. Buffalo Bob Smith, Remember, you know, Buffalo Bob Smith of television fame, the Howdy Doody Show. That's right. He was born on November20, that day that we work on 27th. Also, he's from Buffalo, New York, which is, I suppose, probably one of the reasons they call him that he was responsible for the Howdy Doody show, the first popular TV show for kids which premiered in 1947.
The Howdy do show. Howdy Doody show was the first Tuesday through Friday program in 1948, which is the year WBZ TV went on the air. I'm not sure whether BZTV carried the Howdy Doody Show.
[00:38:59] Speaker D: Was it on the NBC network?
[00:39:00] Speaker C: It did.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: It did. Okay. It was. Yeah. It doesn't say what network, but it must have been NBC.
And the. Remember, we used to carry NBC on Channel 4.
Everybody's carrying themselves apart because we go CBS in January.
Anyway. It serves them right for being in television to begin with.
If they had any brains, they'd just stick with radio.
But anyway, he was. There was the first Tuesday through Friday program in 1948 and also the first show in color in 1955.
How about that? Yeah, I didn't know that then. We used to put little.
[00:39:36] Speaker D: If you had the first show in color. Did anyone have any color sets to pick them up in color?
[00:39:40] Speaker B: Not at the beginning, probably. No, not. Not.
[00:39:43] Speaker G: They had to use crayons on the screen.
[00:39:45] Speaker E: Did you know who played Clarabelle Clown on that?
[00:39:48] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes, I do. The guy who's the lady became Captain Kangaroo.
What's his name? Keshaw. Bob Keshan. Bob keeshan.
[00:39:59] Speaker F: I met Mr. Green Jeans once.
[00:40:01] Speaker B: In. Really? In pencil.
[00:40:03] Speaker F: I was too nervous, too.
[00:40:05] Speaker G: Wow.
[00:40:05] Speaker F: Mr. Green Jeans you don't see every day.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: No. That's kind of interesting because Keishan. Is that his name? Keishan? Yeah. Keisha. Isn't he?
Sure. I don't. Anyway, he. He was. He got kind of uptight about playing Claire by the Crown with the clown. We used to run around and beep the horn. He looked like Harpo Marx in a way. The kind of that approach he did. And he. He just. He. He thought there's got to be a more dignified low key kind of approach to a kid show.
So his Captain Kangaroo was a director contradiction. Not contradiction, but directly opposed to that. And he became very much, much low key and quite nice. And guys like Mr. Blue Green Jeans, as you. You pointed out, Keith, was a low, low key kind of character. The whole program just. The whole volume just simmered down.
I thought it was kind of interesting.
[00:41:02] Speaker G: One of our last. One of the last people's relatives was on that bunny rabbit.
[00:41:11] Speaker B: I'm sorry, I had your microphone off. Jack. I didn't hear what you just said.
[00:41:14] Speaker C: I heard it.
[00:41:17] Speaker E: Sister bunny.
[00:41:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's start with. We'll start with you, Mike. Buffalo. Hi. Buffalo Bob Smith.
I used to be able to levitate him pretty good. Yes. Howdy. Do you. What time is it, boys and girls?
[00:41:34] Speaker C: Hey.
[00:41:34] Speaker B: Hey. This is my stick.
Get your own program if you want to do stick.
[00:41:40] Speaker C: That was from the peanut hours.
[00:41:41] Speaker B: That's right. Yeah.
Buffalo Bob. On. On.
[00:41:46] Speaker D: When was he born?
[00:41:48] Speaker B: I can't tell you. What?
[00:41:49] Speaker D: Well, I know what year, but I'm saying. I'm saying the date. What date are we guessing?
[00:41:53] Speaker B: We're trying. No, we're not guessing any date. We're guessing his age. How old? It'll be Sunday is his birthday.
[00:41:58] Speaker D: Oh, that's what I was wondering when.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah, because we really get going. We're getting very close to the news.
[00:42:02] Speaker D: Okay, well, in that case.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: And we're 17 commercials behind.
[00:42:06] Speaker D: Okay, I'm gonna guess that the buff.
[00:42:08] Speaker B: That Buffalo Bob is.
[00:42:12] Speaker D: 80 years old.
[00:42:13] Speaker B: 80 years old.
Okay. For a while he was doing a show on colleges and stuff. Kind of have. Being revitalized. Jack, what do you think?
[00:42:21] Speaker G: 76. And that.
[00:42:24] Speaker B: That is spirit.
[00:42:25] Speaker G: Yes.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Okay, Keith, what do you say?
74.
And Judy?
[00:42:33] Speaker E: 77.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: 77.
Okay. Addie, 82. Eddie says 82. And Joe, 73.
And Jenny?
[00:42:46] Speaker C: 83.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: Okay. Actually, he's 77. Just as.
As Judy said. So, Judy, there's a tie all over the place with Keith and Judy and. And Jenny. Let's do one more. We'll do this very quickly. Robin Givens was on the film Boom. In the film Boomerang, on TV's Head of the Class and Angel Street. And of course, she was married to Mike Tyson. And there was a whole big. Yeah. Thing about that at that time. Jenny, how old you think Robin Givens will be on Sunday?
[00:43:20] Speaker C: 37.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: 37. And Joe?
[00:43:23] Speaker E: 28.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: What do you think, Addie?
[00:43:26] Speaker C: 31.
[00:43:27] Speaker E: And Judy, I was gonna say 28, too.
[00:43:31] Speaker B: 28 also. And. Okay, Keith, I'm giving Robin 29.
[00:43:38] Speaker F: Tonight.
[00:43:39] Speaker B: Isn't it nice we have this little thing that when I add liver on so we can get that rich, ribald humor and Jack, does that mean something?
[00:43:51] Speaker G: 32.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: What is this. Something subliminal happening here?
Mike, what do you think? I'll agree. What do you think? Rather, what do I think? Yeah. About Robin Givens age.
[00:44:05] Speaker D: I think it's a lovely age.
You were going to guess what age that happens to be? I'm going to say 29.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: 29, okay.
You're all very close. Robin Givens on Sunday the 27th will be 30.
So the. Keith, Mike Aldous said 29.
And Addie said 31.
So that was within a year also.
So we have those three winners. So here's the way the thing finally shapes up.
Let's see. Jenny has two and Judy has two.
Keith. Oh, Keith wins. Actually, Keith has three. I've never won. Oh, he brushed brushed you guys aside. Jenny, all the rest of you did very, very well. That means they don't have to send a prize out to anybody.
Okay.
[00:44:55] Speaker E: I was gonna beat him.
[00:44:56] Speaker B: You were very close.
You were kind of sneaking up very nicely. Hey, I want to thank all of you for playing the game.
Thank you very much, Mike and Keith from our big production staff here.
[00:45:08] Speaker E: Addie, did you enjoy yourself?
[00:45:10] Speaker C: Oh, yes. And I'm just so grateful there were no undertakers.
[00:45:14] Speaker B: Okay, take care, Addie, and take care, everybody.
[00:45:17] Speaker C: Have a good Thanksgiving.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: And you too. Thank you. You all too, Judy and Jenny and Jack and all the other kids. And Joe, thank you very much. Also, I appreciate having you with us. Thanks also. Okay, because we have news coming up now and on wbc. And then we'll take some more calls on the next hour and life will be just continuing just to be just so darn sweet.
Could you bring. You bring the news up with you? I'll just say it's your tune to WBC Boston.
[00:45:49] Speaker A: Well, what did you think? I thought that was darn entertaining. And I wasn't even part of the game. I kid I kidding.
See you next week as we end November 2025 and race to the end of the year. Closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it for Everett Football. Raising some money, loyal fans, Calico cheerleading outfits and thermometers on the rise.
Those things go hand in hand.
The Orlando Sentinel. Old rivalries creating the illusion.
Lack of honesty. Psy sperling, closeness in family.
Norm's Emerson lectures. The big O.
Old Greek choruses. William F. Buckley Jr. Impressions, breasts, harpsichord kits. Going far afield. Obscene phone calls from pompous phonies.
Northern carpetbaggers, dried fluffy hair.
Drinking scotch in high paneled rooms whilst seated in high backed chairs.
The spirited number of 76.
Selter down the pants. Keith Shields, Ed Koch impression madras India. Exhausted plaid, chameleons and chameleons. Chameleons, Norm, really Huge spans.
Rain fetishes, Jack Benny, promiscuous rabbits. Rich ribald humor. Mike Epstein, first time winner. Keith Shields. The terribly logical Jack Hart. And the master of radio illusion, Norm Nathan. I'm Tony Nesbitt.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: And Oscar Robertson. You know is so tall. How tall is he? He is so tall. He was born on November 24th, 25th and 26th.
