Norm Nathan's Vault of Silliness with Tony Nesbitt - Ep 256 - Hollywood Confusion

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Here's a show from the very next night. Based on last week's episode, we have ourselves a Norm Nathan show. Dumb Birthday Game. Norm Nathan show from October 13, 1996, which I've titled Hollywood Confusion. And believe me, you'll see why as you listen. First, I'll give you all the callers throughout the show portions and some other details. There will be makeup and time to get into costume before the dumb birthday game begins. So we have Joe talking about the best potato salad, and clearly there was talk about kazoos, but that part is not here. Dina from a caller with the world's most random question ever. Then we hear from foxy lady from Hyde Park. She and Norm dropped some truth bombs about losing a spouse. Andy in Burlington with the world's fastest call. Todd from Woburn with the world's most celebrity confused call. And in Lexington, who's had a very busy weekend, Norm decides not to read the lottery of sports, but teases upcoming guests Tim Walsh and Tribond and actress and animal lover Tippi Hedren. Then there's a weird WBZ promo about winning airline tickets. It's now Dumb birthday game time. Shayna McCorky from Traffic. Or maybe not or maybe so. Dena from Ontario is back. Addie and Everett. Or maybe not. Or Betty from Rhode Island, Glenn and Brighton. Yeah, maybe not or maybe so. Tom Howey will not be playing and I don't blame him as he tried to make sure they stayed on the air as everyone was suffering. The new studio blues, the birthdays. Marie Osmond, Margaret Thatcher, Damond Wilson, Lorraine Day, Art Garfunkel, Nancy Kerrigan, and Kelly Preston. If you'd like to support the show, there are links below to do so. Episode 256, Hollywood confusion puzzles its way to your ears. [00:02:01] Speaker B: Now, getting my makeup on and my costume and everything, I'm ready to go. We have news coming up at 2 o' clock from ABC News. And then after that, we'll take over. You know, we're going to do a threat after three. We'll have the dumb birthday game. And if, if you want to play the game, this would be a good time to call because we'll. We'll be doing that within an hour. So. Okay, so you might call 254-1030 and you know the area code to Boston. Everybody say it along with me. Six, one, seven. Thank you. Oh, do you remember that place? They had the best potato salad in the world. I know. And the best roast beef sandwiches. Yeah, the Bernsteins. Yes, I remember them so well. Yeah, right on. What is the name of that street? Is that. What street is that? That was on Broad Street. Broad street in Lynn. Yeah, that's right. Not just above the square, not far from the Hotel Edison, which still is in existence. It is, that's right. My wife and I lived the first six years of our married life back in the 50. 50 to 56 or so. Yeah. Not, well, the other side of town. That's the wealthier side. But we would go to Bernstein's and have their potato salad. That was the only thing that kept us going during our years of poverty there. I, I remember that so well. Yeah. Thanks for bringing back those memories, Joe. You and your kazoos and your remembrances of Bernstein's Delicatessen. You make life worth living. I try. Okay. Take care of yourself, all right, Don. You take care of yourself. Bye. Bye, now. Bye. That's true. I met Mrs. Bernstein. Well, it's been a few years now, and we reminisced about her potato salad. I don't know what the secret recipe was, but it was the best there was. I wish I could tell you where you could get some now, but they're out of. They've been out of business for a lot of years. Vibes all the way, coming from Ontario, Canada, all the way down to Boston. And I know, I know my women, Dina. I have studied women for years. I'm probably the world's foremost male authority on women. [00:04:10] Speaker C: Is that right? [00:04:11] Speaker B: No, it isn't right, but I like to believe. I like to talk myself into that fantasy. [00:04:17] Speaker C: Well, you know what, though? I have a small confession to make. [00:04:22] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:23] Speaker C: I failed kazoo 101. [00:04:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. A lot of people did and still went on to great, great victories after that. I, I. You want, you want to know who failed Kazoo 101 along with you? [00:04:34] Speaker C: Who? [00:04:38] Speaker B: Pardon me, Raquel Wells. No, I don't think she did. Michelle Pfeiffer did. [00:04:44] Speaker C: Oh, did she? [00:04:46] Speaker B: Sharon Stone dropped out of the class after about three days. Millard Fillmore, President of the United States, perhaps, perhaps one of the least known presidents. He could not handle a kazoo at all and yet became president. You know, so. And George Westinghouse, who founded this Westinghouse empire, could not play the kazoo. Man. If you held a gun up his head and stuck the kazoo halfway down his throat, he could never play the kazoo. And yet, look what he did. He invented the air brake and a whole bunch of stuff, including a washing machine once. [00:05:20] Speaker C: My God. Either you're lying or you're out of control? [00:05:23] Speaker B: No, I'm out of control. I'm on the edge. But these things actually did happen. And one other person, now that you bring it up, as I recall, I'm stalling because I can't think of another name. [00:05:39] Speaker C: Robert Redford. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Robert Redford never even tried because he looked at a kazoo and he said, I'll never learn to play this complicated instrument. Yeah. He said he blew one note into it and it has turned his red hair gray. So he never played it again, as I. I remember that very distinctly because I was there at. At Planet Hollywood when it happened. Oh, God, I don't even know what I'm talking about. [00:06:06] Speaker C: Wow, I am so impressed. [00:06:10] Speaker B: I hope so. That's the only point of my being on the air. [00:06:15] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Is the fact that I'm trying to impress you. [00:06:18] Speaker C: Are you serious? [00:06:19] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, I am very serious about that. I wouldn't be on the air if I weren't trying to impress women. Well, I think. [00:06:27] Speaker C: I mean, individually. [00:06:28] Speaker B: No. Well, you. You individually, of course, but what's the point of a guy being out of the air if he's not making girls go crazy over. [00:06:36] Speaker C: I don't know. I always wondered that myself. [00:06:38] Speaker B: Yeah. No, that's the whole point. You did really wonder about that. [00:06:43] Speaker C: Really. It's one of the great wonders. It's one of the seven wonders of the woman's mind. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you think women get on the air because they want to impress guys? [00:06:51] Speaker C: No, I think women get on the air because they want to slay guys. [00:06:56] Speaker B: Now, what does that mean? [00:06:57] Speaker C: Well, you know. [00:06:59] Speaker B: No, I don't know what that means. What does that mean? [00:07:02] Speaker C: Well, I. A lot of women. Not me. A lot of women. Talk show hosts. I've seen it. Seen it? No, I haven't seen it. Okay, you hear it because you're listening on the radio. [00:07:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:07:17] Speaker C: They get on the air and they want to be. I don't know how to say this delicately. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Don't say it delicately. Come out really. Come out brazenly. Come out grossly. Say it. Say it. Right. Titillate. Tom Holly, our producer, he wants you to say it the way you're thinking it. [00:07:36] Speaker C: Really? [00:07:37] Speaker B: Because the guy sits here all night, the only person he's got to look at is me, which is not terribly sensuous. Certainly not in his eyes. So he'd like something to chew on. Give him something to think about. Go ahead. [00:07:48] Speaker C: Well, I think that a lot of women hate men and that they like to get up there and chew men out and try and slay them. Try and brutalize them. [00:08:05] Speaker B: Brutalize them? Does that mean. What does that mean exactly? Slay or brutalize them? Does that mean, like, cut them down? [00:08:12] Speaker C: Make them feel small? Yeah, do all the terrible things. Like me, myself, I like men. I think men are great. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Well, why would some women not like men? Because they've been disappointed with them? Because the men have given them a bad time at one time? Is that why they want to get back? [00:08:30] Speaker C: Well, I can't speak from experience, but I think a lot of women don't like men because they're jealous. [00:08:39] Speaker B: They're jealous of men. Oh, is that penis envy? Is that what they used to call. [00:08:43] Speaker C: Oh, is that what it's called? I don't know. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Well, I mean, that's. Yeah, because on radio I just did. [00:08:50] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:08:51] Speaker B: And it was the clip. We're still on. [00:08:53] Speaker C: And I said it, too. [00:08:55] Speaker B: No, no, but I mean. But that's. That's a. That's what a lot of psychiatrists or psychologists talk about. The fact that you guys don't have one, therefore you're jealous of us because we do. [00:09:04] Speaker C: Well, we're not guys, though. We're gals. [00:09:06] Speaker B: No, I understand that. I'm, you know. I don'. Understand that cold theory. I'm simply repeating to you, you know, as a psychiatrist, what we were taught in medical school. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:09:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:18] Speaker C: I didn't know you went to medical. [00:09:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I went to medical school. You can take off all your clothes if you like. I am a doctor, and I'm not embarrassed by anything like that. I'm strictly professional. We start. We're starting to get really silly, aren't we? [00:09:31] Speaker C: I know, but, Norm, on the other side of the fence, just so people don't think that I hate that I'm the forceful woman who hates women that are forceful. On the same side of the coin, there's lots of men that hate women that are strong and willful. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Oh, there's no question about that. I've met a lot of those. These are women who. Men, rather, who are. Don't have very much confidence in their own masculinity. And so they would like men. They like women to kind of walk 10 paces behind them and tell them how wonderful they are and how weak the women are and how strong the guys. You wouldn't want to go with a guy like that. [00:10:11] Speaker C: Does that bug you to no end or what? [00:10:14] Speaker B: I'm sorry. You just said something and I couldn't understand a word. My ears must be going bad. What did you just say? [00:10:21] Speaker C: I said, does that bug you to no end or what? [00:10:25] Speaker B: What, you mean the fact that there are some men who, who are not sure of themselves as men and therefore deride women? Yeah, that bugs me. Of course it does. I, I, you know, I, I think a guy who is sure of himself doesn't worry about things like that. [00:10:40] Speaker C: I say, I think that men or a woman, man or woman, should be proud and strong of who they are and doesn't matter gender. [00:10:51] Speaker B: I think that's probably quite true, Dina, and that's very true. You're wise beyond your years, and I know you happen to be only 11 years old. [00:10:59] Speaker C: I'm not 11. I'm 13. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Oh, you really come back. You come back with those humorous remarks, don't you, you devil. No, but I mean, I think that's true. I think there are a lot of men are like that because they, they're not sure of how masculine they are, and they think if a woman is strong, therefore, it takes away from some of their masculinity. And I think that's, you know, that's ridiculous. [00:11:25] Speaker C: I, I think it's ridiculous. [00:11:27] Speaker B: I'm going to do a program on that some other time. Norm. [00:11:29] Speaker C: Nathan, wouldn't that be nice? [00:11:30] Speaker B: Looks at the genders. What's that, please? [00:11:33] Speaker C: Wouldn't that be nice? [00:11:35] Speaker B: Am I doing a program on that? [00:11:37] Speaker C: Yes. [00:11:38] Speaker B: I don't know whether it would be nice or not, but I think the world, World needs that. [00:11:42] Speaker C: Oh, I think it does, too. [00:11:44] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:45] Speaker C: You're, you're definitely right. [00:11:47] Speaker B: But you. [00:11:47] Speaker C: Well, you know what I did tonight? [00:11:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:49] Speaker C: I rented that movie, Natural Born Killers. It was an Oliver Stone film. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:11:57] Speaker C: I don't know. Have you seen any of his films at all? [00:12:00] Speaker B: I saw one of his films a while back. It, I can't remember which one I saw. It wasn't the Kennedy one or the Nixon one. Rather, Nixon. [00:12:09] Speaker C: Born on the fourth of July. What else? Platoon. [00:12:16] Speaker B: I think I saw born on the 4th of July. Was that about a Vietnam vet who was. [00:12:21] Speaker C: Yes, that. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Who was. Who was crippled in the war? [00:12:25] Speaker C: Yes, yes, that's right. Actual person. [00:12:29] Speaker B: That's right. He wrote a book called born on the 4th of July. I interview. I, I interviewed him once. Oh, did you? Way, way back when the book first came out. Yeah. He was an interesting guy, and he was obviously against the Vietnam War. He was, he was hurt, quite obviously crippled and, and paralyzed in that war. And, And I, I think I, I may have seen the movie. I'm not, I'm not really sure. That's kind of stupid to say that. I wonder If. I wonder if Siskel and Ebert ever say that. Like, I don't know. [00:13:00] Speaker C: I tried to call them, you know. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Yeah, why was that? [00:13:04] Speaker C: They're not, they're not at the paper at night. [00:13:08] Speaker B: You call the Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun Times and try to get them. I see. [00:13:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, they're not there. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Okay. Hey, Dina, I have to move along because I think. I think my laundry just finished out on the wash cycle. [00:13:26] Speaker C: Oh, is that what you're saying? [00:13:27] Speaker B: Yeah. So I gotta move it over to the dryer. [00:13:30] Speaker C: Oh, are you going to be playing the dumb birthday game later? Dha. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Yes, yes, I'm definitely going to be playing the dumb birthday game. We're going to do that in about a half hour, 35, 40 minutes. [00:13:40] Speaker C: Tina could get in on it. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Well, I tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to turn you over to the very lovely Tom Howey, who's being titillated by this conversation. [00:13:49] Speaker C: Oh, he has? [00:13:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, he'll. You talk with him and say, I don't know whether he's got people all lined up or not, but hang on and talk to him. Okay. [00:13:56] Speaker C: Okay. [00:13:57] Speaker B: Okay. That's my friend Dina from up Ontario way. Time is about 231, which I think is, you know, if you're going to pick a time during the night, I think 231 is probably one of the really exciting times of the day. We have some open lines also. It's kind of quiet now, I guess maybe because we got out kind of late and maybe people didn't even know. We don't even know yet. We're here, but. 2, 5, 4, 1030 area code 617 is the number to call. If I could ask the first. Well, you can. Okay. You can ask the first one first and the second one second. Sure. Any way you'd like to do it. Yes, that's how I'd like it to be done. Okay. [00:14:38] Speaker C: Do you happen to know who played. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Lumpy Rutherford's father on Leave it to Beaver? Oh, no, I don't. I. I probably have some information at home. I got, you know, all kind of. Kind of books and stuff on that, but no, I don't. Lumpy rep. What was his last name? [00:14:55] Speaker C: Rutherford. [00:14:57] Speaker B: The lodger of the. [00:14:59] Speaker D: You know, there was Eddie Haskell and he was a little rascal. [00:15:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And there was Lumpy Rutherford, though. You know, Lumpy, he was a big fat. I guess, I guess Wally. Okay, that. I guess that's why they call him Lumpy. I do remember that. Yeah. Why don't you stay tuned, because I bet you somebody's gonna call you. You want to know the name of the actor who played Lumpy Rutherford? Lumpy Rutherford's father. Oh, Lumpy Rufflesford's father. Lumpy Rutherford was. [00:15:29] Speaker D: His name was Frank Bank. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Oh, Frank. Frank bank was his name for really? F, A, F, R, A N, K. [00:15:36] Speaker D: B A N, K. Frank Bank. [00:15:38] Speaker B: Okay, I just want to know who played Lumpy Rutherford's father. Okay, if anybody knows, give us a call. 2, 5, 4, 10:30, area code 617. Okay, what would be in with us is Shayna McCorky, and I'm glad to talk with you again, Shayna. She may not be so happy to talk to me, I guess, huh? I think we went through this the last time. I. I think she's maybe very undetermined as to whether she wants to. To do anything with us or not. Can we, can we get in touch with you think. Give her a call or something while I talk with some of the other people who'll be playing the game with us? Okay. I. I just. I just love women who just play hard to get. Dina, Hello. Hi, Dina Ontario. You're going to play the dumb birthday game with us too? I wanted to mention also that I. I've been getting. I've been very much behind times and work and stuff in getting out prizes for the dumb birthday game and letters in general and all kinds of stuff. I. I just been going through what we in the broadcast business would refer to technically as a kind of a lazy period. But however, this past few days I've been really just forcing myself to get at. Get after it. And so a lot of the stuff will be going out this week. And those who have not received anything yet, including those who won the swell baseball, the swell music quiz, way, way, way back, all will be getting some results in the mail probably by the end of the week. And I thank you very much, all of you, for being patient and that was very nice. Anyway, nice to have you with us, Dean, again. [00:17:17] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:17:18] Speaker B: And we have Addie, my friend Addie, who lives in Everett, who's. I haven't talked with you for a while. Addie, are you there? Addie? Ah, she. Can I go to work for some other radio station maybe where technically they know what they're doing. Oh, there you are. Eddie. Are you. Is that you, Addie? No, that's you, Dina. Why are we not getting. Why are we not getting? [00:17:45] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:17:45] Speaker C: I'm just laughing. Well, maybe it's just gonna Be you and me. [00:17:49] Speaker B: No. Is it. Is Addie there? Is she not just saying anything? Eddie, damn it. Open up your mouth and say something. Let's go to Betty in Rhode Island. Betty. Hi. [00:18:00] Speaker C: Don't get flustered, honey. They'll be there. Don't worry. [00:18:03] Speaker B: Yeah, but why is she not there? [00:18:05] Speaker C: I think you're better off. You call your little cousin and flower, though. I'd love to. [00:18:09] Speaker B: That's right. I haven't. I haven't talked to either one of them. I have two cousins down there. [00:18:13] Speaker C: Both the young one. [00:18:15] Speaker B: Yeah, well, they're both young. One is a little girl and one is a little boy. [00:18:19] Speaker D: A little girl. [00:18:20] Speaker B: The little girl. [00:18:22] Speaker C: Wonderful rapport with her. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, we'll. We'll try them anyway. I'm glad that you're on with us, Betty. Thank you very much for joining us. [00:18:32] Speaker C: I am, too. [00:18:32] Speaker B: Okay. I think Addie's with us now, too. Are you there, Addie? Okay, let's go to Glenn in Brighton. Glenn, hi. You're on wbc. Hi, Glenn. Hi, Norm. You have a something. Is that what you said? I have a something, huh? Were you saying something just now? Glenn? Did we lose Glenn, too? Are you there, Glenn? I'm here. Okay. What were you gonna say? Why did you shut up? I did. [00:19:03] Speaker D: Well, I. [00:19:05] Speaker B: The sound cut off on the phone. I thought you. I got cut off. No. What. What can I do for you, Glenn? No, the day. I don't know if you know, but when Jordan Ridge filled in for you, he did the birthday game. Yes, I know. And it was. And it was Sheena's first traffic day, and he said she was too shy to play. And I told him that's because Gwen from Brighton has a crush on every traffic woman. Yeah, well, actually. Actually. Are you still there? You sound like you've just been cut off. No, no, actually, she played with. She played the dumb birthday game with us even before then, so I don't know whether she was just suddenly climbing up after that or not. But though she had been on with us before that. Yes. Oh. Oh, yeah. You. You do have. You have. You have a crush on all the traffic people. Is that what you said? While Shane is my favorite and Karen Regal's my second. Oh, is that right? Maybe that's because they're the only two females who are on during the night. Yeah, well, you used to have Lisa Reichwine. She's done. But in other words, you fall in love with whoever happens to be around. It sounds like that song from that Broadway show, when I'm not near the Girl I love, I love the girl I'm near. Yeah, that's like. No, Crosby, Stills and Nash and Young did a song. If you can't be with the one you love, Love the one you with. Well, that's kind of a rip off of the Broadway show. Yeah. Okay. Is Addie there now too? [00:20:25] Speaker C: I'm here now. [00:20:27] Speaker B: What happened before Addie? [00:20:28] Speaker C: I haven't got a clue, Norm. [00:20:30] Speaker B: You were not gonna play. [00:20:31] Speaker C: Oh, no, I was here. I never hung up. But all of a sudden we in the middle of a work. [00:20:35] Speaker B: Okay, no, I'm sorry. We've had some technical problems. [00:20:38] Speaker C: Yes, I know. It's that new section you're in. [00:20:40] Speaker B: It's the new facility, which looks really great in case anybody wants to go on tour and look in. In the studio. They'll see lovely stuff. Unfortunately, it doesn't all work all the time, but anyway, I'm glad to have you there. And we also have. With us. We also have Shayna with us too. Hi, Shayna. [00:20:57] Speaker C: Hi. I missed you last weekend. [00:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right too. Yeah. I was here Friday night, but not Saturday into Sunday morning when you were here. [00:21:04] Speaker C: Right. [00:21:05] Speaker B: I felt just so bad. [00:21:07] Speaker C: No birthday game. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Yeah, actually, I did feel bad. I. It was awful. My life hung by a thread. I felt so, so awful. Shane. Shayna. Death. Death was looking in my window. I was that close to expiring and my life coming to an end. Am I being overly dramatic, do you think? [00:21:26] Speaker C: A bit. [00:21:28] Speaker B: I guess not. Maybe her. Right. Okay. But anyway, we're going to play. Are you coming in, Tom, to play the dumb birthday game with us? He's not. Tom is not coming in to play the dumb birthday game. Okay. Well, he turned out to be a real sore head. And he's a guy I picked out of a broadcasting school. And I. And I predicted some great things for his future and he's been ignoring me ever since. He figures what the heck? If he's got a great future, he doesn't need me anymore. It's really sad. I don't know what to do about that. Shayna, what do you think? [00:21:58] Speaker C: Well, give him a break. He's young. He just came out of school. You know, I. I know how he feels. [00:22:04] Speaker B: Yes. You know, he's protesting. I'm listening to him on my earphones, which you can't hear, and he's saying, that's not right. That's. No, that's not what's happened. That's not at all true. That's not right. You know, but I wasn't even going to repeat, I was going to let him sit there frustrated, just repeating stuff in my ears without explaining his side of the fence. Now he has a lot of other stuff to do. I. I'm not sure what it is right now. He's. He's pulled out a coloring book and a dot to dot book. And I suppose if he thinks that's more important than playing the game, I say good luck to him. Is the trouble in our set, Norm? Yeah, the trouble is not in all the sets, Glenn. Actually, just your set. Your set is a real piece of crap. So watch it. I. I'd go back to Circuit City and trade it in for something else. Okay. Normal. An audio file. Okay, we're gonna. What we're gonna do. What we're gonna do is obviously suggest the ages of people who were born on this day, which is not a unique idea, but it does lead to some rather interesting conversation. And on some occasions, it leads to some boring conversations. We'll find out soon in which direction we'll be going this time. Okay. Today's the birthday of Marie Osman Osman. I don't know who that is. She's not related to Marie Osmond, as a matter of fact. What's that? How do you spill the last name? O s m O N D. Osmond. Marie Osmond. Osmond. The brother of Donny osmond and about 7,000 other Osmonds. I wonder if that family's more normal than the Jackson family. You don't wonder that at all, do you? Just wanted to say something, didn't you, Glenn? I just wanted to have a fight. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, she began her professional career and. Pay attention. Out of these. Some of these dates and ages and stuff, because that might give you a clue as to the. What her age is now on this very day. Oh, Today's Friday the 13th and it comes on a Sunday. Wow, that really is ominous. Anyway. Well, it's. Yep, that's true, cc. I just made a little joke and the idea was to giggle and let it go. [00:24:15] Speaker C: You want to see? We're paying attention. [00:24:18] Speaker B: No. Anyway, she began her professional career in 1966 at age 7. Oh, God. I just gave it away. Okay, well, we'll let it go at that. The only girl in the performing Osmond family. All the other ones were, of course, guys. Her biggest hit was paper roses in 1973. Her dad, George. George Oddsmond, was also born on October 13th. So the question is, how old is. Will you be quiet, Glenn? How old is Marie? Let's start with you, Dina. What do you think Marie Osmond, 37. 37. Okay. What do you think, Addie? [00:25:01] Speaker C: 36. [00:25:02] Speaker B: 36. Okay. [00:25:05] Speaker C: And Betty, I think he's 37. [00:25:09] Speaker B: 37, yeah. Glenn, 37. [00:25:13] Speaker C: Shayna, 37. [00:25:14] Speaker B: And. Okay, yeah, I did tell you. I said, I, I, that slipped out. I said she began her professional career in 1966 at age 7. Okay, so say 1996 would make. Obviously, would make her 70. 37 years old. Is that right? 1996 minus 7. Is that right? Well, hold on just a minute. I'm doing the math because it could be an error in the figuring here. 1973, she was 7. No, no. What am I saying? Okay. Anyway, she is 37. The heck with it. I don't feel like going through that. So Dina, Betty, Glenn, and Shayna all hit it right on the button. Addie, you were only a year off. [00:26:08] Speaker C: I don't want one of those wonderful presents. [00:26:11] Speaker B: You don't want some of these treasures that I mail out? [00:26:14] Speaker C: I have seen them, Norman, and I think others should be able to share with them. [00:26:19] Speaker B: Have you won before? [00:26:20] Speaker C: Oh, about three or four years ago. [00:26:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And you found that there was a whole envelope full of trash? [00:26:25] Speaker C: Well, I've done everything in my power to allow others to receive them. [00:26:32] Speaker B: You, you know something? That you're. You're a nice person beyond belief. Just beyond belief. If the entire world was populated by nice people like you, Addie, there'd be no wars, there'd be no hunger, there'd be no illiteracy. There'd be nothing but peace and serenity. [00:26:49] Speaker C: Well, that's a nice job. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's such a peaceful world. It would be a piece boring. But it would be. Well, it would be boring, I suppose, but it would be a peaceful world. Thanks to Addie. Margaret Thatcher was born on August, rather October 13th. Also former British Prime Minister. Her birth name was Margaret Hilda Roberts. And of course she married Mr. Thatcher and became Margaret Thatcher. And she's from. Well, obviously from England, since she was the British Prime Minister. She was Britain's only woman prime minister in 800 years of English parliamentary history. When Mr. Thatcher was asked who wears the pants in the family, he said, I do, and I also wash and iron them. Golly jeekers, What a wondrous sense of humor that man had. Or I assume still has. Some people call her Maggie. Some people call him what? Maggie. Maggie. Maggie. They call her Maggie. Some people call him Maggie. You haven't lost your sense of humor, Glenn. It's still sharp and right on the edge. Well, it's on the edge. Oh, shut up. Margaret Thatcher. Anyway, Shayna, how old do you think she is? [00:28:06] Speaker C: I'd say 68. [00:28:08] Speaker B: 68. Okay. Glenn, what do you think? 85. And Betty? [00:28:16] Speaker C: 71. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Betty says 71. Okay. What do you say, Addie? [00:28:23] Speaker C: 69. [00:28:25] Speaker B: Is. Is that your full name, Addie? [00:28:27] Speaker C: No, that's my nickname. [00:28:29] Speaker B: What is your full name? [00:28:30] Speaker C: Adele. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Adele, okay. Because Addie's an adorable name. Addie, as we used a kid in the past about it. Sounds like a real fine. [00:28:40] Speaker C: Yeah, like a going across the plains walking aside the wagon. [00:28:45] Speaker B: That's right. That's Addie in the coke bonnet. Or a New England. Kind of a New England farm wife name also. Yeah, yeah, you can't talk to Addie right now. She's out back there. She's churning up the milk into cream and she's making cheese out there. Matter of fact, it's Eddie throwing out. [00:29:05] Speaker C: Some corn to the chicks. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Okay. What about you, Dita? What do you. How do you. How old do you think Margaret Thatcher is? Did you consider her. Since you're from Canada, did you consider her your prime minister? Well, now, sort of. The relationship between Canada and England is sort of what, thin? You're sort of part of the Dominion or something, but not really. [00:29:27] Speaker C: We used to be a part of a Dominion. We're independent now. Yeah, but like the lady very much. I say she's 71. [00:29:37] Speaker B: 71 is exactly right. You and the Betty both said 71, so you both are tied with two apiece, while Glenn and Shayna both have one apiece. And Eddie's busy making cheese out there out on the fan. [00:29:54] Speaker C: From the handheld. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Do you guys know Demon D E M O N D for Demon. Demon Wilson, the actor who played Lamont. [00:30:04] Speaker C: On Sanford and Son. [00:30:06] Speaker B: That's right. He was on Sanford Lamont. He was Lamont on Sanford and Son, the TV series with Red Fox. He gave up acting to become a preacher. [00:30:18] Speaker C: Right. [00:30:19] Speaker B: You know, all that kind of stuff, Dina? Yeah, well, why don't you go first? Then you'd sound like you know all about him. How old is he today? Today? He was born October 13th, this very day. [00:30:30] Speaker C: He was born today? [00:30:32] Speaker B: Well, not today, but he was born on this date, October 13th. [00:30:37] Speaker C: Oh, okay. Well, I give him 47. [00:30:43] Speaker B: You give him 47. Okay. And Betty, what do you give him? [00:30:47] Speaker C: Oh, I think he's older than that. He said 47. Let me see. Oh, 58. [00:30:57] Speaker B: 58. Okay. What do you think, Glenn? 56. Glenn says 56. And let's see, Addie. [00:31:10] Speaker C: Let's see. Oh, dearie. If I use the Jack Hart formula. Multiply the tiles by the square footage. [00:31:21] Speaker B: Yeah. The only thing is, I didn't give you. I didn't give you a date, so you'd have to know, you know, roughly when he. When he was on the show and roughly how old you thought he was then. And plus. But you'll come up with something, because that Jack Hard Solutions and his. His formula is always very good. [00:31:37] Speaker C: Yes. And if I divide that by the cubic feet of the room, I think I get about. [00:31:44] Speaker B: 52. And also, the idea was to divide it by the length of the Yangtze River. [00:31:49] Speaker C: Yeah, well. Oh, done. That means my calculation will be off. [00:31:54] Speaker B: Well, we'll soon find out, won't we? [00:31:56] Speaker C: Yes, we will. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Okay. Shayna, what do you think? [00:31:59] Speaker C: I'd say 55. [00:32:01] Speaker B: 55. Actually, he's 50. And so, Addie. Actually, you said 52. You were the closest. [00:32:07] Speaker C: Wow. [00:32:08] Speaker B: You devil. Yeah, 52. [00:32:10] Speaker C: Now, see, if I had remembered the Yangtze, I'd probably hit it right in the head. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Yeah, you would have, had you done that. Also, the population during the 1980 census for the country of Uganda, that would have given it to you. [00:32:23] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Is Lorraine. Is Lorraine Day still alive, do you know? [00:32:29] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:32:30] Speaker B: I always. [00:32:30] Speaker C: It was born to Leo derocha. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Yes, he was. He was born. Let's see. Lorraine Johnson in Roosevelt, Utah. She appeared in Young Doctor Killed here back in 1939, and the high and the mighty in 1954. I thought she was. There was something very intriguing about her. I always liked her a lot. And she did marry Derocher, Leo Derocher, who at that time was manager of the Brooklyn Dodgers. Anyway, I. I haven't. I think she's still around. And it was not Lorraine Day. It was Laraine. Larry. Yeah. L A R A I N E. Laraine Day. Glenn, what do you think? How old is Larry Day on this day, October 13th? 66. 66. Okay. And Addie? [00:33:20] Speaker C: Well, let's see. [00:33:22] Speaker D: The Brooklyn Dodgers were. [00:33:26] Speaker C: I was a child and just a mere child. [00:33:29] Speaker B: They've been out of. Yeah, it's true. They've been out of Brooklyn for a little bit. [00:33:32] Speaker C: Yeah. For a week or two at least. Yeah, I'll say. She's at least 78. [00:33:40] Speaker B: 78, okay. What do you think, Shayta? [00:33:45] Speaker C: 72. Even though I don't know who you're talking about. [00:33:47] Speaker B: Oh, you don't know. That's right. Well, she hasn't made movies in a very long time, but she would. I thought she was more adorable than Anything. And she had a very pretty. She reminds me of the woman who's on the. The Seinfeld show who plays Elaine. Elaine. Yeah. I don't know why, because Elaine is adorable, too. Kind of a cutesy little person. Larine and Elaine. But L. Raine was a little more sophisticated than that. A little more maybe. I don't know, maybe more mature. And I don't. I don't know quite. I described. They weren't exactly the same, but they were. You kind of like them because they both were kind of warm and had nice personalities. That's the way I look at it. Anyway, I'm old enough to compare La Reine Day with Elaine from the Seinfeld show. Dina, what do you think? You know who we're talking about? [00:34:40] Speaker C: Yes, I do. I go with 76. [00:34:45] Speaker B: 76. [00:34:47] Speaker C: That's the spirit. [00:34:49] Speaker B: Very good. Okay, Betty, what do you say? [00:34:53] Speaker C: Oh, I think he's about 72. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Okay. Now, actually, 76 is right on the button. Yeah. That little cute, little adorable person is now 76 years old. Son of a gun, how time flies when you're whipping it up. [00:35:09] Speaker C: This is true. [00:35:10] Speaker B: And having this kind of fun. Today's also the birthday of Art Garfunkel. Of course, of the team of Simon and Garfunke Funkle. There's one other couple of things I can. Because his biggest hit with Paul Simon was Bridge over trouble waters in 1970. And also says here, singer Art Gar Funko met Paul Simon in the sixth grade when they were in Alice in Wonderland together. Art as the Cheshire Cat, Paul as the White Rabbit. That interesting. All the kinds of little stuff you learn on this thing. [00:35:50] Speaker C: Wow. [00:35:52] Speaker B: Thank you very much. Nobody seems to be terribly impressed with any of that. Okay, Betty, what do you think? Art Garfunkel. [00:36:00] Speaker C: Art Garfunkel? [00:36:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I always thought that was a funny name. I knew a Garfinkle family, and that was the common thing. Suddenly I thought, aunt Garfunkel doesn't want to be known as a Garfinkle, which is kind of a funny name. So he became Garfunkel. And I'm going to get nasty notes from Garfunkel. Oh, Garfinkel's all over. Well, maybe I won't. Anyway, what do you think, Art Garfunkel? [00:36:23] Speaker C: I think he's 55. [00:36:25] Speaker B: 55, okay. One of the first times I kind of fell in love with the music of Simon and Garfunkel was when they did the score to the Dustin Hoffman movie the graduate back in 1968. Hey, Mrs. Robinson, you remember that. That score, Excellent score for what was a dynamite movie. Anyway, Addie, what do you think? Art Garfunkel, how old would he be? [00:36:59] Speaker C: About 46. [00:37:01] Speaker B: All right. And Glenn, what do you say? [00:37:06] Speaker D: 58. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Okay, 58 says Glenn and Shayna. [00:37:15] Speaker C: 51. [00:37:16] Speaker B: 51. [00:37:18] Speaker C: Okay, Dina, now go with 54. [00:37:22] Speaker B: 54. You looked these up, didn't you, ahead of time. [00:37:27] Speaker C: What's that? [00:37:27] Speaker B: Did you. You look these up ahead of time, didn't you? There's nothing wrong with that. I never said you couldn't do that. [00:37:33] Speaker C: Didn't I get any wrong? [00:37:36] Speaker B: You go, well, you got one wrong, but you got. You got every other one, including this one right on the button, which is very unusual. Very unusual. [00:37:45] Speaker C: Well, then while we're on the subject then, okay, your friend that looked wanted to know, Frank Banks. Lumpy Rutherford's father was played by Richard Deacon, who also played on the Dick Van Dyke show as Mel Coulee. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Okay. Richard Deacon has been on a number of shows. That's right. He was the. He was kind of the boss underneath the character played by Carl Reiner on the air. [00:38:14] Speaker C: Right. He was. He was the producer. [00:38:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Big tall bald guy. [00:38:19] Speaker C: And he played Lumpy Rutherford's father on Lay with the Beaver. [00:38:22] Speaker B: Okay. Anyway, you hit it right on the button this time, Deanie. Oh, Adina. Adina. Art Garfunkel is 54 years old. You got four out of five, every one of them on the button. [00:38:33] Speaker C: Nom. Yeah, in a magazine. He was born 1941. [00:38:41] Speaker B: I'm sorry, who was our guy? Funko. [00:38:43] Speaker C: Yep. 1941 makes them 55. That's what I said. [00:38:50] Speaker B: Well, wait a minute. Let me see now. You may very well be right. Let me. Let me double check this because I love to double check. I have him. I have him 54 in one book. However, I'm going to check another book and see what the other one says. What? What now where you. Where did you find that date? [00:39:11] Speaker C: I found in one of the magazines when I was in the doctor's office. It would had some article about him, I don't know. And I was reading it and he says 41. I remember that because. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Yes. No, as a matter of fact, in this other book I have, it does list his birth year. I mean, you know, as 1941. That's correct. In which case you would be correct. So I tell you what. Since we've had a discrepancy with the two sources, will call both of you. Right. Okay. Is that okay with you? Is that a fair compromise, do you think? You said 55. And. And if 41 is correct, is his birth year, he would be 55. The other. The other source I has have says this year he is. He is 54, so I don't know which one is correct. What could be wrong? So Dina said 54, and you said 55. So I'll call you both. Right. Okay. [00:40:11] Speaker C: You're the boss. [00:40:14] Speaker B: No, but I don't know how else to do it because I don't, you know, there's no way to authenticate it right. At this point. [00:40:19] Speaker C: What does it say in the rule book, Norman? [00:40:21] Speaker B: Okay, let me. Let me check the. Oh, what a big rulebook this is. [00:40:26] Speaker C: Yeah, get the big book out. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah, it's on. It's in. Oh, hold on a minute. It's in volume three of the rule books. [00:40:34] Speaker C: Is it written in the. In the language? [00:40:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it says. Yeah. Should there be a discrepancy? [00:40:40] Speaker C: Is it written in gold or in stone? No, it is not written in its own language. [00:40:45] Speaker B: No, it's just written. It said. Written in Aramaic. It says here, should there be a discrepancy? But both sources seem to be authentic. Pick them both and divide the prize. Okay, so that's just what I've done. I followed it without. Because I memorized these rules. Yeah. And it says, in case of pain or anything, see your doctor and do stand at the back of the bus until we call your name and then come up for your order. I don't know what that means. [00:41:20] Speaker C: In its own way. You know that language? [00:41:23] Speaker B: Well, I'm translating it, actually. It's written in very legal terms. Oh, very much legal terms. Yes. It says the party of the first part there, and therefore shall be known as it. A lot of that kind of stuff. But I try to translate that to. To you because I know you are not legal scholars like I am. You're just lay folk. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Yeah. But I know that you also have that language you speak that has no vowels. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Oh, that's. Yes, that's right. That's Chagra. [00:41:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:51] Speaker B: Yeah. No, we have not translated that into Chagri yet. We probably will be, because it's beginning to catch off. Catch on among the peoples on the. In the Gulf of Perim, which is that. That's their language up there, Chagra. [00:42:07] Speaker C: It's on my list of tourist spots I want to go to. [00:42:10] Speaker B: Yeah, you'd love it. You'd love it there. You'd love it there. My family, when I was very young, controlled the fishing industry all along there. [00:42:17] Speaker C: Wow. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. From. From one city, right across to Perim. It was beautiful. Yeah, we never. We never were short of herring. Herring for breakfast, luncheon and dinner every day. And that's why I've grown up to be such a good looking. [00:42:39] Speaker C: To be smart. That's how he got to be a doctor. [00:42:42] Speaker B: That's right. I got to be a doctor too. And also smart. Eat a lot of herring and be smart. I'll say that for you in chagres. Just so you know. I'm not kidding. Yeah, please do. Okay. And chagra, eat a lot of herring and be smart goes. As you know, chagra has no vowels and only three consonants so you really have to work hard at saying it. [00:43:10] Speaker C: But it's all where you put the accent on the syllable. [00:43:14] Speaker B: I think we ought to let it. Just let it rest there. Right there. [00:43:18] Speaker C: How was your thinking debut? [00:43:20] Speaker B: My sinking debut was beautiful. I sunk right to the bottom of the. [00:43:24] Speaker C: I said singing. [00:43:26] Speaker B: Singing. You said did say singing and it worked out okay. I think. I don't know. Anyway, let's go to Nancy Kerrigan who still birthdays today. You know the skater from Woburn, Olympian, US Olympian was attacked with an iron bar. I guess he'll always be remembered for that. After a practice session in Detroit she still went on to capture a silver medal in the Norway Olympics and to complain how corny Disney World seemed to her. I remember she was riding one of the floats and they picked her up saying that I don't think she meant for that to be heard but that she was her. [00:44:02] Speaker C: I believe she's from Stoneham. [00:44:03] Speaker B: No, she's from. She's living in Stoneham I think now. I guess this is the birth from what I gather is her birthplace was Wooburn. But you're right, she does live in Stoneham and I think they pretty much claim her as their own in stone and more so than Woover, which maybe she's just born in a hospital there because I don't know, maybe they had a clean bed for her mother when she was born. I don't know but she was born there. But anyway she is. She is known as a native of Stoneham. That's true. Nancy Kerrigan. Okay, let's start with how you shayna. [00:44:38] Speaker C: I'd say 28. [00:44:39] Speaker B: 28, okay. Is that about your age? [00:44:42] Speaker C: I'm a little younger. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Okay. Is that okay with you Glenn, if Shane is a little bit younger than Nancy Kerrigan because you're an old broken down guy? Well, I'm 43 and a half. Okay. Well that's not too bad. Okay. What? How old do you think Nancy Kerrigan is 25? 25. Okay. What do you think, Betty? [00:45:06] Speaker C: 27. [00:45:07] Speaker B: 27. All right, Addie. [00:45:12] Speaker C: Oh, I have the feeling Shane is a lot prettier than Nancy. I like to think so. [00:45:17] Speaker B: Yeah, she really is. As a matter of fact, it's kind of funny you should bring that up because it was only, I think, about a week ago here at the WBZ that they had a contest to see who is prettier than Nancy Kerrigan. I forget why that was brought up. But the promotion department here at WBC Radio comes up with all these things all the time. Clever stuff. And in all honesty, Shayna won hands down. [00:45:43] Speaker C: Wow. I'm impressed. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:45:46] Speaker C: Well, it comes along with my name, right? [00:45:49] Speaker B: That's right. [00:45:50] Speaker C: When I hear Shayna, I think it's Shayna Reed. [00:45:54] Speaker B: But, you know, in Yiddish, maybe German, too. Shayna means pretty. And the word. The phrase Shayna maidel means pretty girl. Well, I. I have a. A woman who works. Doesn't work for me exactly. She takes care of our horse because she likes animals and stuff. So she comes out, rides the horse. And anyway, her name is spelled the same way. S H A, N A. She pronounces it Shana. [00:46:21] Speaker C: I think the Yiddish spelling or what have you is S H A Y. [00:46:25] Speaker B: N A. Oh, okay. So that would be Shayna. [00:46:28] Speaker C: Right. [00:46:29] Speaker B: And is there an H at the end, too? No, the Yiddish one. No, you're thinking of Sarah. Or maybe you're not thinking of sir. Maybe you're thinking of Moses. I don't know. I don't know what you'll be. I tell you the truth, Glenn, I never know what you're thinking of. Addie, how old do you think Nancy Kerrigan is? [00:46:49] Speaker C: I'll say 23. Seven. [00:46:51] Speaker B: You'll say 27. [00:46:52] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:53] Speaker B: And what would you say, Dina? [00:46:56] Speaker C: I'll say 27 also. [00:46:58] Speaker B: Okay. [00:46:59] Speaker C: She was just married, wasn't she? [00:47:00] Speaker B: Yes, she was. She was married to her trainer. [00:47:03] Speaker C: She's pregnant now. Oh, no. And now they're expecting a child, I think. [00:47:08] Speaker B: Yes, I believe. I believe that's true. Well, 27 is correct. And there's Dina again. Has got her on the button. So has Addie and Betty. And you were not far off. Shannon, you were just a year off. So everybody's been very close anyway. But I tell you, Dina, you seem to be walking away with everything here. You have five correct answers out of six and everyone on the button, which makes us look at you further ahead of anybody's only. Am I well. Well, Betty has four. Yeah. Betty has four correct answers and. Well, she has three. Well, that's right. She has a lot of correct ones too. That's true. [00:47:53] Speaker C: I know why Dina's winning. She's the only woman on radio that doesn't hate men. I heard her saying that earlier. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Yeah, you think. Do you think the rest of the women on radio hate men? You think that, Shayna. No, I know. [00:48:08] Speaker C: It's just the other thing she was talking about, that's problem. What, what problem is that? I don't want to say that word on the radio. The envy. Freudian problem. [00:48:19] Speaker B: That's right. [00:48:20] Speaker C: Hey, that's not my problem. [00:48:24] Speaker B: I have breast envy. I've always wanted to have big massive breasts myself, personally, and it just never happened. Wouldn't that be awful? [00:48:34] Speaker C: They all look the same. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Will you be quiet? We don't need that kind of cheap, chintzy philosophy. They all look the same. I had a. I had a friend of mine who used to say that this was a woman who was going to marry a friend of mine, and she said, boy, you hang women upside down. They all look the same. I said, I never understood what that meant. And my wife and I, who wish they had, where they were visiting us at our house at that time, we look at her with absolute total disgust. Like, why doesn't she just shut up? Have that, Betty. Is that how you know? [00:49:11] Speaker C: But I have the Star magazine and you. [00:49:15] Speaker B: That's how you know all the ages of people. You really read these things. And including the ages of people and their breast sizes and the whole thing, you have. You have kind of an inside look at everything in America. [00:49:26] Speaker C: And you know why I called? There's a beautiful picture. The one that you love. Who's the one that you love? [00:49:34] Speaker B: Sophia Lorenz. [00:49:35] Speaker C: Right. I'm gonna send it to you. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Please. [00:49:38] Speaker C: Why did she have breast enlargement? [00:49:40] Speaker B: I don't know what she had. I just. I just. I just thought she was an abs. She's an absolutely incredible looking woman. And she's up in her. She's up in her 60s now. And I. I had the. I had the great thrill of interviewing her once. I. I thought I was gonna break out in a cold sweat. What's that? [00:50:00] Speaker C: She's around 68. [00:50:02] Speaker B: I don't know whether she's quite up that high, but she's in. In her. In her 60s. Maybe the mid mid-60s or somewhere around there. But she. She looks incredible. Anyway. How about Kelly Preston? Do you know that name? [00:50:17] Speaker C: Kelly Preston? Wasn't she used to be married to John Travolta? [00:50:20] Speaker B: Is she still married to him or not? No. [00:50:21] Speaker C: I don't know. She. She still is, but she used to be. [00:50:24] Speaker B: Yeah, she was on a TV show called For Love and Honor, which I don't remember at all. I don't know what you guys do. And it says married to John Travolta. She was when the book came out, but I don't know whether she still is. But that's the person. And today is her birthday, October 13th. So her name is Kelly Preston. That sounds like a phony name, doesn't it? But apparently it seems to be her real name. [00:50:51] Speaker C: Why does it sound phony? [00:50:53] Speaker B: I don't know. Because it's so nice. It's just. [00:50:55] Speaker C: He's married to John Travolta. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:58] Speaker C: Huh. [00:50:59] Speaker B: What, does that surprise you? [00:51:01] Speaker C: Yes, it does. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Why is that? [00:51:04] Speaker C: I just don't know. I don't think she was a movie actress, because I see in her pictures and in the magazines and newspapers, and I didn't think she was a movie actress. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Well, she was in a TV series. I don't know whether she's, you know, done any movies or not, but she was in the TV series For Love and Honor, which I don't remember. Do any of you remember that? [00:51:26] Speaker C: Yes. [00:51:27] Speaker B: Do you remember that, Shayna? [00:51:29] Speaker C: No. What does she look like? [00:51:32] Speaker B: Oh, she's about so high. Young and perky. Yeah, she's about so high and. [00:51:41] Speaker C: Oh, she's five. Five? Blonde with, you know, those black roots. All right. [00:51:46] Speaker B: With the black boys. You're bitter, aren't you? Boy, what a bitter thing to say. Okay, let's start with you, Dina. Kelly Preston. What do you think? I don't know what that was, but it kind of. Kind of turned me on a little bit. I'm sorry, what did you say, Dina? [00:52:04] Speaker C: I said I'd give her 33. [00:52:05] Speaker B: 33, okay. What would you give her, Addie? [00:52:09] Speaker C: Well, John Travolta's in his 40s. Men at that age like him kind of young. Hi, Glenn. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Hi. [00:52:21] Speaker C: I'll go 35. [00:52:22] Speaker B: Christina. I'm sorry. What did you say, Andy? [00:52:26] Speaker C: 35. [00:52:26] Speaker B: 35. Okay. We lost Betty. I guess that was what that noise was. Do you think she just hung up on us or. Okay, we'll see if we can get her back on. Glenn, what do you think? I'm gonna say 33. 33. Okay, because you're. Because you figure Dina's done so well so far. You wanna. Yeah. [00:52:47] Speaker C: You. [00:52:47] Speaker B: You. You know how I think, don't you? No. Well, I don't blame you. She says she's done so remarkably well. To copy what she said is not a bad idea. Shayna, what do you think? [00:52:57] Speaker C: 34. [00:52:59] Speaker B: 34. Okay. See if we can get Betty back. And maybe she doesn't want to come back. And she may have hung up and discussed and figured, what a stupid game, what a stupid host that is. Everybody else on the panel sounds intelligent and lovely and beautiful, but he sounds like a real boo boo. And she may have hung up. Let's see if we can get her back and give her one shot at that. And I'll tell you how old Kelly Preston is she. She's. She's. Is she back? Yes, she's back with us. Are you there, Betty? Are you there, Betty? [00:53:33] Speaker C: Yes. Can you hear me? [00:53:35] Speaker B: Yes, I can hear you. We're guessing the age of Kelly Preston. You know that because you were still with us while we were talking about it. [00:53:41] Speaker C: Preston. I think she's about 33. [00:53:44] Speaker B: 33, okay. Actually, she's 34, which is what Shayna said. I should have went with Shane. [00:53:50] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I didn't hear that part. [00:53:53] Speaker B: They were you all very close. Anyway, so. Actually the winner is Dina. The only. See, the problem, Dean, as I told you before, is trying to get a package up to Canada, which is where you are, as you well know, without. You know, because we have to go through customs, and it entails filling out forms and all the kind of stuff that when I bring that up in the mail room here in B.C. [00:54:19] Speaker C: Well, if she doesn't want to. Well, send me a check then. [00:54:22] Speaker B: What's that? [00:54:23] Speaker C: Just send me a check. [00:54:25] Speaker B: That's right. I think you said that the last time, as I recall. How about. I think maybe I can send you a spring peepers key ring. [00:54:34] Speaker C: A what? [00:54:36] Speaker B: A spring peepers keyring. It's a key ring that you press where you see a little frog and the sounds of spring. Spring peepers come out. I won't give you a whole lecture on. [00:54:48] Speaker C: Well, that sounds cool. [00:54:50] Speaker B: I think maybe we could put that in a little package. Maybe. Maybe customs wouldn't return it, but. [00:54:55] Speaker C: And what about an autographed picture of Norm? [00:54:58] Speaker B: I do not have any at the moment. But you certainly have wonderful taste asking. [00:55:02] Speaker C: For one and a strong stomach anytime in the future. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Yes, I think there will be. As a matter of fact, about three or four weeks ago, we. We took pictures here at the wbz, and they sh. They should. It should be coming out soon. That is the. The. You know, the. What do they call them? The proofs. And then we pick the ones. We picked. We picked the Ones we think are less ugly than others and, you know, some that you won't throw up when you look at them. [00:55:34] Speaker C: The ones that are less ugly, less. [00:55:36] Speaker B: Uglier, the kind that you do funny. The kind that you can look at while you're having breakfast without getting too sick to your stomach, without resting. And then they. Then it takes a little while for them to print those up. [00:55:49] Speaker C: They airbrush them first, right? [00:55:51] Speaker B: What's that? [00:55:51] Speaker C: They airbrush them first. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Well, I hope they're. I hope that's what they're doing right now before they return the proofs. Yeah. I wonder if you could airbrush sort of a sultry little look of calm insouciance on my face. Please. [00:56:06] Speaker C: Oh, no. You know what you should do? You should see if they can airbrush maybe like Robert De Niro. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Do you like the way Robert De Niro looks? He's not bad because I think he's a fantastic actor. [00:56:20] Speaker C: He's what? [00:56:20] Speaker B: He's a fantastic. [00:56:22] Speaker C: Oh, man. I think he's great. [00:56:23] Speaker B: Yes, he is. He is. Have you seen Midnight Express? Yes, I. I think Robert De Niro. [00:56:29] Speaker C: Was in the Mindo Express, though. [00:56:31] Speaker B: Yes, he was. [00:56:33] Speaker C: Midnight Express. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:34] Speaker C: Are we talking about the same movie? [00:56:36] Speaker B: Well, I'm talking. [00:56:37] Speaker C: Brad. What's his faces in that? Brad? [00:56:44] Speaker B: Nobody named Brad. There's a guy. [00:56:47] Speaker C: Midnight Express. [00:56:48] Speaker B: Midnight Express, yeah. Brad Pitt. No. [00:56:51] Speaker C: Is that the movie where the guy got caught with all the dope in Istanbul? [00:56:57] Speaker B: No, that's. That's Turkish Express. I believe that was called Turkey Express or something. Now, the guy who. What's his name? The. The man who was in the. The movie with the Saint Bernards, who does a talk show on one of the cable networks, who's a fine actor. I've always loved him and I always have a trouble remembering his name. Yes, yes. Grodin. [00:57:23] Speaker C: Oh, Charles Grodin. [00:57:24] Speaker B: Charles Grodin. Charles Grodin is an accountant in the movie Midnight Express. He's stolen a lot of money from this gangster in Chicago and he's given it actually to charities, mostly because he doesn't like this guy and he doesn't think he ought to have the money. So he's. Now Robert De Niro, who's been thrown off the Chicago police force because he's too honest, is in the business of. Of getting people who are out on bail and bringing them back to the people who have put up bail for them and all that kind of stuff. So the Midnight Express is the story of both of them, of Robert Dinero taking Charles Grodin back to the bailiff and putting him back in jail again. Well, I think he finally releases him at the end because he realizes the character that Groden plays is a very decent kind of guy. He can't put him behind bars, so he lets him go and he loses the. The money, $100,000 or so he's supposed to get for delivering him. But anyway, it's about. It's. It's an interesting bit of by play between the two of them as they're on trying to figure some kind of transportation where they can escape the gang from going after them while he brings them back. It says. [00:58:38] Speaker C: Okay, Norm, I don't know what movie you're talking about, but Midnight Expl. Breath. [00:58:42] Speaker B: No, that's Midnight Express. No, I know what I'm talking about. [00:58:45] Speaker C: Davis is. Remember I said Brad somebody. Brad Davis. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:49] Speaker C: Randy Cade. Randy. [00:58:51] Speaker B: No, we're not talking about. No, no, hold on, hold on. We're not talking about the same movie. The movie I'm talking about really is called Midnight Express. I. I swear to you it is. [00:59:01] Speaker C: It is. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Yes. You. You. You don't give up very easily, do you? [00:59:09] Speaker C: Because I never heard of it, and I. I've heard the premise, and I know Grodin, like, he's hilarious, and I just cannot figure where it's coming from. [00:59:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Any of you. Any of the rest of you seen this movie? No, no, not at all. Okay. Anyway, Dina, hang on. You have one. Something. I'll see what I can get up to you. Anyway, in Canada, it is kind of difficult to get it. There's. Hey, Norm. [00:59:37] Speaker C: Yeah, hey, Norm. [00:59:39] Speaker B: Yes. Who goes first? Me. No, let's say. Yeah, no, go ahead, Glenn. No, I'm taping this game if Dina might want a copy of the tape. [00:59:47] Speaker C: Somebody's calling in Norm. No. Yeah, this is Betty. Yes, Betty, I'd love to receive the package that she doesn't want. [00:59:57] Speaker B: No, no, it isn't that she doesn't want it. It's just that it's difficult because. Getting through, Getting through. [01:00:04] Speaker C: I love it. I look forward to it. You know, Sophia Lorenzi, 62. [01:00:10] Speaker B: Okay. You just looked that up, eh? [01:00:12] Speaker C: Yeah, she's the magazine, the Star magazine. [01:00:15] Speaker B: You really read that, don't you? [01:00:17] Speaker C: Somebody gave me a subscription. What am I going to do? They have a wonderful crossword puzzle. Betty. My grandmother's name was Betty. I'm glad. [01:00:31] Speaker B: That is. That is the weakest excuse for reading that newspaper. Somebody gave it to you. [01:00:36] Speaker C: I don't read it. I do the crossword puzzle first and then I scan through it. Yeah, but that Sophia Lorenz. She's on a diet and she eats macaroni. I didn't know whether she was doing the dance, the macareni or whatever. [01:00:53] Speaker B: Macarena. [01:00:55] Speaker C: Yeah, but she eats macaroni. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah. She was 62 on September 20th. [01:01:01] Speaker C: I don't know. It didn't say. It says. [01:01:03] Speaker B: No, I'm. I'm telling you. [01:01:05] Speaker C: That's why I called, to play the dumb birthday game. When I saw her, I knew you loved her. [01:01:11] Speaker B: Yes, I do. [01:01:11] Speaker C: But I'm going to send that picture to you. [01:01:13] Speaker B: Okay. Thank you very much. [01:01:15] Speaker C: And I've got a. You have a pic. A letter in the mail that I mailed to you. [01:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll look for it. I'll look for it. [01:01:22] Speaker C: And I put Judd on it, remember? J, U, D, D. [01:01:27] Speaker B: What does that mean? [01:01:30] Speaker C: You were thinking of a different name and we decided on Judd one night. [01:01:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That sounded very manly to me. Judge, right? Yeah. [01:01:37] Speaker C: Abbreviation for judge. Anything. [01:01:40] Speaker B: Well, no. Judd is manly. More manly than naming? Naming is not manly at all. Anyway, thank you very much, Betty. I appreciate you being with us. I'll be looking for the stuff. You betcha. And Glenn, thank you very much. Too. Good to talk to you again. And Addie. [01:01:58] Speaker C: Good night, Norman. It's been a lot of fun. [01:02:02] Speaker B: Okay, just lean over backwards. I hope the bed is nearby and you don't fall on the floor. [01:02:06] Speaker C: Excellent. Down. The whole time I've been talking with you. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Nice. Nice talking with you, too. There's. [01:02:11] Speaker C: Sure thing. Gonna go out and mix me up some jams and jellies. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Okay. I imagine one. Go out there and take one last look at the goats out there in the farm. [01:02:21] Speaker C: I gotta get up early and milk them animals, you know. [01:02:24] Speaker B: Okay. Take care. Bye. Bye. Eddie lives in. In Everett. I don't. The last time I looked, there wasn't a single farm in that whole city. Because that's the city. There wasn't one even when I grew up. And that was back during the colonial times. Anyway, it's always a pleasure to talk with you, Shana. Thank you. How many. How many nights a week are you here? [01:02:43] Speaker C: Just one. [01:02:45] Speaker B: And I have you. This is it. [01:02:47] Speaker C: But next weekend I'll be in Friday and Saturday. Are you in Friday? [01:02:51] Speaker B: I'm here Friday. You're going to sit in for Jack Hart that night. [01:02:54] Speaker C: I'm going to try to get all the information I can out of him first. Going to get the all. All the secrets to the. To the birthday game. [01:03:03] Speaker B: Okay. Jack is. Jack is very good at that. And very methodical in the way he goes around guessing ages of stuff. And he's also a very good guy and you're a very nice lady and I'm glad to have you with us, and I thank you very much. I'll talk to you soon. Okay, Bye. Bye. Okay, Dina, hang on and talk with Tom Howie, if you want to flirt with him. Hey, what the heck? There's nothing wrong with that. You know what I'm saying, babe? Okay, the time is 3:50. Not this coming week, but the week following. I'll tell you dates later. If you want to come by and listen in while I spew forth all this fascinating background I have in the broader cash business. It's all during. I don't know where you find a parking space. Well, they have their public garages and stuff around there because this past night, Friday night. Oh, Midnight Run. What did I say? I didn't say run, did I? I said Midnight Affair or something. Whatever I said. Apparently I didn't. The movie is called Midnight Run. You know, running his. Anyway, I'm sorry. I probably. I gave you the wrong name. Anyway. Where are you calling from? [01:04:12] Speaker C: I'm calling from Hyde Park. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Hyde Park? That's where all the foxy ladies live. [01:04:17] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:04:18] Speaker B: I think it was. It was in People magazine. [01:04:21] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:04:22] Speaker B: Yeah, they had a test. They. They checked out all the communities in the United States. In fact, in the entire Northern hemisphere, Mexico and Canada, and they found there were more foxy ladies per square inch in Hyde park than anywhere else. Except maybe Findlay, Ohio. Yeah. Isn't that. Isn't that crazy? [01:04:42] Speaker C: That is. But I. I thought I was the only one. [01:04:45] Speaker B: But that's okay, now you're the key one. I had your name at the top of the list. [01:04:49] Speaker C: Well, I have top priority. [01:04:51] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:52] Speaker C: I wanted to ask you something. You were throwing out some Yiddish things about, you know, Shayna, and I want to know. My girlfriend, who's been a. A friend of mine since childhood, always calls me Boba Shayna. And I never knew what it meant. [01:05:09] Speaker B: Oh, boa shayna, Boba shaina. Boba means. Now, what did she say? Did she explain that. That to you? [01:05:15] Speaker C: No, she always calls me Boba Shayna. I don't. [01:05:18] Speaker B: I'm not quite sure. Boba is an affectionate term. [01:05:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:23] Speaker B: And Shayna means. Means pretty. [01:05:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:05:27] Speaker B: Bubba. [01:05:28] Speaker C: Bubba's like grandma. Is it? [01:05:30] Speaker B: Well, Bobby is grandma. It could. It could be that some people. Yeah. In. I think in Russian or some of somebody. [01:05:37] Speaker C: I'm Czech and I'm called Bobby, so. [01:05:41] Speaker B: I guess it's pretty close I think so, yeah. Maybe it's the same thing, but I think a Boba Shayna is maybe not grandma pretty, but just kind of enough. I think it's an effect. Obviously, she likes you and that's. [01:05:54] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, we love each other dearly. Yeah, I. I listen to Barbara also. Now, who's better looking, you or him? [01:06:01] Speaker B: Oh, he is by far. There's no comparison. [01:06:03] Speaker C: I. I don't know what he even looks like. [01:06:05] Speaker B: Yeah, no, no, I've seen your picture. Yeah, well, he's better looking than that. [01:06:09] Speaker C: I think you're kind of cute. [01:06:11] Speaker B: Well, yeah. Cute is not the same as good looking. Cute is like adorable. You know, it's just not. No, I want to. Well, no, I know I keep saying that, but I want to be. I want to be an incredibly handsome person. And I never. No, I never. I never will be. If I haven't become that by now. I never will be what you think you are. Oh, don't give me those proverbs. I hate those proverbs. Stop that. You're just trying to pacify me. [01:06:37] Speaker C: No, I'm not. I'm trying to pacify myself. [01:06:39] Speaker B: You know? Why do you call yourself a foxy lady? [01:06:43] Speaker C: Because I am. [01:06:45] Speaker B: What will your definition be of that? [01:06:48] Speaker C: Beautiful, charming, lovely, whatever. [01:06:52] Speaker B: Okay, well, that's not bad either. [01:06:55] Speaker C: Except down yourself so much. I think it's great. [01:06:59] Speaker B: No, I. No, I don't doubt myself. There's certain. Well. Well, I think I'm being realistic. I think there are things about. About all of us that I think are probably realistic and fun and we just have to think, take each other in perspective. There are things that I can do and that I like about myself a great deal. Physical appearance and looks are really not one of my greatest asset. I have to be level with myself about that. But I'm not a bad person. You would like me. [01:07:27] Speaker C: I like you. [01:07:28] Speaker B: Yeah, you would like me. You'd forget how ugly I was once we started talking. Who needs it any deeper than that? That is one of the worst proverbs I ever heard. [01:07:40] Speaker C: You think it's little? Well, beauty's from within, I think. [01:07:43] Speaker B: That's right. Beauty is which is within. Beauty is what glows from the eyes because of what is resting within the soul. [01:07:53] Speaker C: You got that right, babe. [01:07:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I'm getting sickening, tell you the truth. [01:07:58] Speaker C: Well, I just wanted to call you and say hi and I really enjoy your program. Sometimes I can't sleep at night. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Well, I. I appreciate you tuning us. I hope we make you giggle just a little bit. [01:08:07] Speaker C: Every now and then, sometimes I would just sit here and laugh like anything. [01:08:10] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:11] Speaker C: I, I also am a widow. [01:08:13] Speaker B: So are you. How, how long ago did your husband die? [01:08:15] Speaker C: Four years ago. [01:08:17] Speaker B: We're in this exactly the same boat then. [01:08:20] Speaker C: I, I don't, I don't remember when Norma died. [01:08:22] Speaker B: She died about five years ago. The fact. Five years ago next month. November. November of 91. [01:08:29] Speaker C: Oh. [01:08:30] Speaker B: How are you? How are you? 92. How are you holding up? Were you married? We were married a long time, 38 years. Yeah. It's kind of tough to be alone after all that time. It really does stink. It's wretched. Do you have children? [01:08:45] Speaker C: Oh, yes. I've got three beautiful children, four beautiful grandchildren. [01:08:50] Speaker B: Oh, well, that helps a lot. And it's got to help you a lot. [01:08:52] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, it does. But, like, you know, you're alone, so you know what it's like at night, you know? [01:08:58] Speaker B: You know? Yeah, not only at night, because at night I'm usually here, and when we were first married, I was always here, and she worked during the day. But what, what bothers me most about that, I think anybody who's in the same boat that we are probably will agree to this, is, I think sometimes, I mean, you have your own language, you know, your own, your own kind of way of communicating with each other after you've been married that length of time. Time you don't even have to say anything, you know, what each other's thinking. And I was, I was thinking. I was on this cruise a few weeks ago. Thanks to the station, I got a chance to go on this cruise to Bermuda. I'd never been on a cruise before. Norma and I had never been on one together. The thing that bothered me most about that, I think, was the fact that, that when you're married to somebody, you can make jokes about funny things that come up that your spouse would understand without you having to say hardly anything about it. You know, hey, look at, you know, something. [01:10:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:01] Speaker B: And, and when they're not around, very few, you'd have to explain that to people, and they, they wouldn't quite understand what you were talking about or little code things that you have, little sayings that you pick up. You know, I, I, I, I, I missed, I think I missed that most of all. Yeah. The camaraderie and the closeness that you have and the unspoken language that you have between the two of you. [01:10:26] Speaker C: Right, right. Not many people have that today, Norm. [01:10:29] Speaker B: Well, I, I mean, the couples do who have been married any length of time, and we're all Happy about that. But it's not anything you pick up right away with somebody new that you've just met. You know, they have to have been through the mill with you. You know, they have to have been through the. You know, through the. Through the problems and all the things that you've been through through the years, and you develop that kind of relationship. But it's kind of nice to know that you did have it, though, for a long time. [01:10:55] Speaker C: I was very lucky. I had a very good marriage, a very good husband and good children. They take good care of me. [01:11:01] Speaker B: Oh, that's good. [01:11:02] Speaker C: It gets lonely sometimes. [01:11:03] Speaker B: I understand. [01:11:04] Speaker C: Thank God I got wbz. I don't know what I'd do without so much. [01:11:09] Speaker B: Come close and kiss me, you fool. [01:11:12] Speaker C: I'm not a fool. All right. You take care and I'll keep listening. I'll give you another buzz sometime. [01:11:18] Speaker B: I hope you will, foxy lady. [01:11:20] Speaker C: Okay. [01:11:22] Speaker B: Good night, foxy lady. That's kind of cute. 2, 5, 4, 10, 30. Eric. Eric. 617. I was messing one night. We, my wife and I had. Were big Nichols and May fans. Elaine Nichols, not Lane, May, rather Mike Nichols. She became an actress and a writer and all that. Mike Nichols went on to do movies and stuff, directing. But they, they. They had a series of recordings as a team, a comedy team, way, way back. And we were big fans of this as we were Bob and Ray and a whole bunch of other people. But Nichols, and they had some funny sayings, and we'd say them to each other, and I say that to other people. And they obviously don't know what you're talking about. I won't go through that whole business now. But you do develop a rapport with somebody over the years, which is very hard to duplicate with anybody new. I think that's the toughest thing of all. But let's go to Andy before I begin to slobber. Andy in the Burlington. Hello, Andy. [01:12:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Hello. [01:12:23] Speaker B: Hey, I'm glad you called, Andy Case. I'd rather you didn't, Andy. I just hung up on Ed. He wants to talk about the O.J. case. There's a new idea. Hey, let's talk about the O.J. case. Nobody's ever done that, Andy. Get yourself a whole new line. You must be a bore. You must open your mouth and everybody must walk away from you. What is the matter with you, Andy? I want to talk about the O.J. case. You're a nutcake, Andy. You're a boar. Thank you very much. Todd in Woburn. Hi, Todd. You're on wbz. Hello. Hi, how are you? [01:13:00] Speaker D: Good, Norm. I've listened to your show for a long time. We. I've been sitting around with. Playing pinochle with some of the fellas. [01:13:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Are you. Did the people still. Guys still play pinochle? [01:13:11] Speaker D: Yeah, we're still playing Pinocchio. [01:13:13] Speaker B: I think that's nice. Although the world has changed, it's nice to know there's certain stability among us and people are still playing things like pinochle. I think that's nice. [01:13:22] Speaker D: I guess I have to say it. [01:13:24] Speaker B: Keeps us all sane. [01:13:25] Speaker D: Okay, I just want to give you a call. We were listening earlier and there was a guy who called. [01:13:32] Speaker C: He had something. [01:13:33] Speaker D: He had a couple questions and one of them caught our attention. It had to do with Lumpy Rutherford. [01:13:39] Speaker B: Yeah, the name. The name of Lumpy Rutherford's the guy who played his father. [01:13:44] Speaker C: We're still. [01:13:44] Speaker D: We've been waiting here listening to somebody. [01:13:47] Speaker B: Called a while ago and gave us the answer, and I can't remember what it was. Isn't that awful? Isn't that awful? If you could. [01:13:54] Speaker D: If all. If the listeners out there, could you please call back. [01:13:58] Speaker B: Oh, wait a minute. I remember now. I remember now. I'm saving you now so you won't have to lie awake for the rest of the day trying to figure it. He said his name was Rich. The actor was Richard Deacon, who played the producer on the Dick Van Dyke Show. The first. The first big show with Mary Tyler Moore. Remember? That was in black and white. [01:14:20] Speaker D: Is that the guy that's related to Lamar Burton? [01:14:24] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know now. I don't know. Who's Lamar Burton? [01:14:26] Speaker D: Lamar Burton? Yeah, he's. He's a distant relative of Joe Piscopo. [01:14:33] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know about that. That. That very well could be. But this Richard Deacon has done a lot of character roles. He was on that show, on the. A Dick Van Dyke Show. A tall, heavy, not. Not fat, but sort of heavyset bald guy. [01:14:50] Speaker D: Oh, yes, I know him. [01:14:51] Speaker B: You know, that. That's. That. That apparently was Lumpy's. The guy who played Lumpy's father on Eager Eager Beaver. Not. Not eager. B. [01:15:00] Speaker D: One thing that really strikes my mind when I think about that show, just the. The talent involved in that show. I mean, just thinking of the person of the name Lumpy, I have to say, honest to God, it's a phenomenal, you know, name that I hear. Another question I had was we could sort of comparing. Trying to compare Beth's. Would you feel as an actor that who. If you were to choose between one or two, would you choose Don Knotted or Oris Bergnine? [01:15:36] Speaker B: Oh, I was. I mean, they're both such different characters of depending on what you were doing. And Don Knotts is a very, very funny guy. I don't know how you can compare the two. I think they're both incredible. Ernest Borgnine as Marty and then the movie Marty I thought was sensational. And. And after that too. No, I mean, if you want a straight, straighter role, it'd be your. I certainly use Borg 9. If you want, you know, a really nervous little twit, you'd get a Don Knotts character. You know, I mean, it's totally different. You wouldn't have to even think it would depend on what the script was all about. [01:16:12] Speaker D: What was that movie that Don Knotts was in? Is a Fish. [01:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I can still see him as the fish. I can't remember what the name was. Borgnine. [01:16:21] Speaker D: I think they really. They in careers took so different turns. [01:16:28] Speaker B: Oh, no, they were. They were really quite different. [01:16:30] Speaker D: It was more in, like, serious roles. Although he could have been as funny. [01:16:34] Speaker B: Did you. Did you see him in Marty? Because I, I love that. That movie. And, and I. I've forgotten who was on the. It was a television show originally, then made into a movie. And Marty, I mean, it was such a beautiful character. Marty was the butcher and he. He. He fell in love with this woman. He just loved her a lot. [01:16:52] Speaker D: Oh, he was a butcher. [01:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a butcher in Marty and he. Linda Blair was the woman he had eyes for. She was a very simple kind of lady. Yeah, she was. I think she'd been married to Gene Kelly at one time. [01:17:03] Speaker D: Gene Kelly? [01:17:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:05] Speaker D: Wasn't he the guy that danced around? [01:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah, he was the one. Yeah. [01:17:08] Speaker D: But he was singing in the thunderstorm. [01:17:11] Speaker B: No, that's right. No, you're right. He was singing in the rain. Just singing, you know, dancing up and down in puddles and stuff. But anyway, anyway, the. The beauty of the movie was these guys would hang around all the time. What are we doing tonight, Marty? I don't know. What do you want to do tonight? We get a bunch of. You could. Guys could identify with that. They hang around trying to figure out what to do tonight. Finally, he. He finds this woman, this Linda Blair. Not Linda. It wasn't Linda Blair. I said Linda Blair. [01:17:39] Speaker D: I'm thinking. [01:17:42] Speaker B: No, no, that's right. [01:17:44] Speaker D: A nice guy who's prancing in the puddle. [01:17:46] Speaker B: No, the Exorcist. The Exorcist was Linda Blair, but that's not this was another Blair. But in any event, the. The. The Ernest Borgnine character loved her. He was a. Again, big fat guy, butcher, you know, Never made out with women terribly. [01:18:03] Speaker D: He was kind of a handsome devil, though. [01:18:04] Speaker B: No, he was. I don't know that he was. Ernest Borgnine was never a handsome, handsome devil, but he liked this girl, but his mother didn't like her. His friends didn't like her. They said, well, she's just a dog, Marty, you know? But he said, I don't know. You know, when I'm with her, I feel good. I like being with her. Like, the heck with all of you. I'm gonna call her up. And if she. If she wants to go out with me, I want to go out with her. I don't care what you guys think. I don't know. It was a lovely movie. If it ever comes around again, by all means see it, because it's. It was lovely. And Myrnas Borgnine was superb. But then again, you cannot picture Don Knotts playing that part. But he might very well be a great actor besides being a nervous twit and probably could play it. Maybe he could. I don't know. [01:18:50] Speaker D: Don Knotts is. [01:18:52] Speaker B: He's up there. [01:18:53] Speaker D: And we were talking about a couple other people that we feel that who. Who was better than who. And one was Andy Williams. [01:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if you remember. [01:19:03] Speaker D: He played Smoking the Bandit. [01:19:06] Speaker B: I'm sorry, you're not talking about the singer, Andy Williams? [01:19:09] Speaker D: Well, yes, he was the singer. And he was a. [01:19:12] Speaker C: He. [01:19:13] Speaker D: He is a music writer. But he was also the little guy that was in Smoking the Bandit. You know how you remember the two Texans that paid Burt Reynolds to, you know, take all the beer across Texas? [01:19:29] Speaker B: Was that Indian you really talking about? Andy Williams was in there. Oh, you know what? I'm sorry. [01:19:33] Speaker D: Paul Williams, the little. [01:19:35] Speaker C: The little. [01:19:36] Speaker B: Oh, Paul Williams, the little. The little rock writer and singer. Yeah, the little midget guy. [01:19:44] Speaker C: You know what? [01:19:44] Speaker D: I always wanted to pick him up and like, you ever hear, like, the tossing down in New York City they used to have. [01:19:52] Speaker B: Right. [01:19:52] Speaker D: I always wondered if he. Somebody told me that he got his special start through midgeton. [01:19:57] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. No, because he's been writing and performing for years. I don't think he started that way. No, I don't think he's ever through that scene, but I know what you're talking about. No, I don't think Paul Williams was on that scene, though, actually. [01:20:14] Speaker D: Well, compare. We were just comparing. We're sitting around. We're talking about who was more talented? Paul Williams or who's the. Oh, Howie Mandel, the guy. [01:20:25] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, but see, you comparing. You're making funny comparisons. Paul Williams was a, you know, a very talented guy, wrote lovely things. Howie Mandel was, you know, more of a comic and an actor and, and all. So you really can't compare the two. They both were excellent. Was Howie Mandela. He was on. He was on a. One of the. Not the subs, but he was on one of the TV series. [01:20:51] Speaker D: Oh, Emergency. No, no, Emergency. [01:20:53] Speaker B: It was a hospital thing. I remember. Yeah, I think it was. Was it, say, wasn't. Saint ease was Adam 12. Adam 12. Okay. [01:21:02] Speaker D: No, no, no, not Adam 12. Oh, we're thinking of the St. Elsewhere. [01:21:08] Speaker B: Oh, Saint Elsewhere. That's the one. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, No, I don't, I just don't know. You're comparing. You're making funny comparisons. [01:21:16] Speaker D: You know, when you sit around Norman, you're playing pinochle this late at night. You talk about the craziest things. And, and that's why we got into Don Knotts. We got into, you know, all these people that are sort of looked upon as people that you don't really think about. But when you're sitting around late at night with the guys playing a pinochle, I'll tell you the things that creep into your mind. [01:21:40] Speaker B: No, I know, it's amazing, but we. [01:21:42] Speaker D: I just wanted to get your opinion on, you know, things like that. Howie Mandel and. And again, what was the name of the. The guy played Lumpy Ruffleford? [01:21:52] Speaker B: Oh, the father of Lumpy. Was Richard Deacon. Was the actor's name Richard Deacon? [01:21:58] Speaker D: Was he in anything else? [01:21:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he's been, he's been in a million things. I think he's. He's got the kind of face and body. [01:22:04] Speaker D: Was he the guy that was the co starred in Attack of the Killer Tomatoes? [01:22:09] Speaker B: Oh, I don't. I don't know. I. I've heard about the movie and all that. Was considered one of the worst movies. No, it's considered one of the worst of all time. In fact, it got the golden. What do they call it? The Golden Turkey Award. One of these guys who's on television now, he and his. What I think of his brother or somebody, when they were still at Harvard, I think wrote this book on the worst movies ever made and the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes was in it. No, that doesn't sound like anything Richard Deacon would be in, but I, I'm not positive about that. [01:22:41] Speaker D: Maybe me. You know what it was it might have been. I. I don't know if you saw something Rat Boy. [01:22:46] Speaker B: No, I didn't see that either. Well, you see all the great ones, don't you, Todd? [01:22:50] Speaker D: I get out of the house once in a while. It may sound. And the Rat Boy movie, I, I'm. I'm still waiting for the. For the sequel. Truly one of the most phenomenal movies I've seen of this decade. [01:23:07] Speaker B: Okay, I gotta go tab, but thank you very much. Want some free airline tickets? Well, just listen to WBZ every Weekday morning at 7:15 and afternoon at 5:15 for your chance to win. From WBZ News Radio, 10:30. Okay. Our phone numbers. 2, 5, 4, 10:30. We have some open. Well, I guess we don't have too many open lines. We have Ann from Lexington with us. Hello, Ed. Good morning. How you doing? [01:23:34] Speaker C: Fine, thank you. I. You don't have too much more time, right? [01:23:39] Speaker B: We have enough time. We can talk. [01:23:41] Speaker C: Oh, okay. Okay. Well, very good. Well, I was going to say for one thing that I read the other day that a musical based on Marty was apparently in the work. [01:23:52] Speaker B: Oh, I hope so. I hope so. I love. I love that. I love the TV show. And then the. Later on the movie. [01:23:59] Speaker C: And then Jason Alexander is slated to claim Marty. I'm sorry, who is Jason Alexander? The guy who. [01:24:07] Speaker B: Oh, the guy in Seinfeld. [01:24:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Right, right. [01:24:10] Speaker B: Oh, I think he'd be perfect. [01:24:11] Speaker C: Yeah, he probably would be. I have no idea who's writing the music. I can't remember if it were. If it were to be somebody like Stephen Sondheim, I think it might be interesting. [01:24:22] Speaker B: But no, you know, the, the what, What? Just the fact that they're thinking about it and it would be an American musical. There have been so few of those. One of the big ones is the one that Julie Andrews is in now. [01:24:34] Speaker C: Right. [01:24:35] Speaker B: A Victoria. What's it called? Victor Victoria. And they made that into that. That's got to be one of the first American musicals in a very, very long time. So I'm delighted about that. [01:24:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:24:47] Speaker B: And it's doing. Apparently, it's doing great. [01:24:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:24:50] Speaker B: And for that, I didn't hear about the Marty thing. I'm. That's. That's exciting. [01:24:54] Speaker C: Yeah. So anyway, this. You know how when you leave the house and you get out on the highway, you notice that every. Everybody is driving in a crazy way. In the same way on a given day, you know, like, everybody will be driving, swerving, you know, from lane to lane. Or maybe the next day, people will be driving five miles under the speed Limit or something like that. Well, I have to say this probably applies to talk shows, too. And I have to say that tonight has been really weird. [01:25:34] Speaker B: No, no, I don't mind that at all. I'd rather have it weird than totally bland, I suppose. But tonight. Tonight has. We've had some weird phone calls. There's no question about that. It seems to run into patterns like that, I suppose, like the drivers you're talking about. [01:25:50] Speaker C: Right, right. Yeah, I. I can't think of any adjectives to characterize tonight. So it's just as well. [01:25:59] Speaker B: Yeah. No, no. Sometimes, like yesterday, we had a lot of people discussing literary kinds of things. We were a little hyper, not hippar, I guess. I don't want to say that the people tonight were not here. A lot of them were quite interesting, but. But yesterday we were discussing literary works and all that kind of things, and a whole lot of young people were calling and it was. The interesting thing about doing a program like this, it does change from night to night and depends on. Somebody says something, and that sparks a whole lot of other kinds of calls that normally people wouldn't make exceptions except they've been excited by what they've just heard. So they call and, you know. And then sometimes you get. You get that. Not tonight, necessarily, but on other nights you get kind of wimpy, little weird kind of people who call. And then that seems to open up the floodgates for wimpy, weird people. No, that does happen a lot. That's true. [01:26:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, anyway. Well, I'm glad you're over your illness. [01:26:58] Speaker B: Oh, thank you, Ramit. It wasn't a terribly serious, serious thing, but it just kind of. Kind of knocks you out. [01:27:03] Speaker C: Yeah, right, right. [01:27:04] Speaker B: Because I'm. Yeah. I want you to know, and that I'm Mr. Macho. I don't get ill. I'm macho. I didn't feel that way last week, lying in bed thinking, I wish there were a button I could press and end this all. But anyway. Anyway, you. You just bounce back after something like this. I've known so many people over the past few weeks have gone through that, and we haven't even gotten into the flu season yet. Yeah, I know that doesn't begin for another. Probably another three or four weeks or something like that. [01:27:33] Speaker C: Yeah, right. Did you have the flu? Is that what you think? [01:27:36] Speaker B: No, no, I don't think it was. It seemed like that at first, but I don't think so because I didn't have it that long. It was just a matter of a few days. Now what do you, for example, now it's 4:30 on a, on a Sunday morning. What are you doing up at this time? [01:27:50] Speaker C: Well, I went to an Indian music concert. [01:27:55] Speaker B: Really? [01:27:55] Speaker C: Yeah, I went to hear Ali Akbar Khan at MIT and then I had to get some groceries. [01:28:04] Speaker B: So you just came back from shopping at this time? [01:28:07] Speaker C: No, then I, you know, forgot something and I went out to a convenience store and then I came back and then I was hungry and now I'm loading the dishwasher. [01:28:22] Speaker B: What an action packed life you live. [01:28:24] Speaker C: Right, Right. [01:28:25] Speaker B: Oh, that's great. I think that's wonderful. Now you live a very. Obviously you live a very unconventional life. Just the fact that you went to an Indian concert and the fact that you went shopping during the night. [01:28:38] Speaker C: Right. [01:28:38] Speaker B: And that you're doing your clothes right now. You're my kind of person, Ann. I can identify with that so nicely. [01:28:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I would say it's pretty random. Yeah, yeah. [01:28:50] Speaker B: And because a lot of people say, I remember I grew up with a guy who was very conventional. He would always say, you know, you can't really do that because nobody does that. And I wanted to hit him right in the face and say, just because nobody does it, because you think nobody does it, doesn't mean it ought not to be done. But he was like that. You know, he had to have a whole list of people who did something before he would dare try it. And to go shopping or go to, well, he might go to an Indian concert, I'm not sure. But he wouldn't go shopping at 2, 3, 4 o' clock in the morning. And people who don't do that because they think that's not the time to do that kind of stuff, they're off my list, so there's lots of room. You're back on A.D. oh, well, that's good. [01:29:34] Speaker C: I'm glad. [01:29:36] Speaker B: I, I appreciate the call. I thank you very, very much. [01:29:39] Speaker C: Good talking to you. [01:29:40] Speaker B: Good talking to you too. Thanks a lot. Bye. Bye. Okay, you know something? It's almost time for us to say goodbye. Boy, I hate that. I hate when it happens that way. Should I tell you just maybe the lottery numbers or anything you care about that you know what you could do? At 5 o' clock this morning we'll have news that's about, that's only about a half hour from now, a little less than that, they'll have all the lottery numbers, that kind of stuff. So that'll be good. The so far sports are concerned, you know, you know all about that kind of stuff. We broadcast sports until it comes out of your pipic. Let's see, the New York, New York lot now leads in the American League Division 3 games to 1 because they beat Texas 6 to 4. Am I looking at the right thing? Were they playing Texas? No, that was the series way back. Hold on a minute. I tell you what, stay tuned. Alan Siegel will be on later on. He knows all that kind of stuff. He'll straighten you out. Straighten me out too, because I don't, I don't seem to have know what I'm doing. But tonight at 11 o', clock, Tim Walsh will be with us. He's the creator of Tribal. What he does is he gives you three what seem to be unrelated situations or people. And yet there is a tri bond, a bond that unites all three of them. And the idea is to guess what they are. And if you do guess it, you win one of the tribal games, which is a great deal of fun. Okay, that'll be on tonight at 11 and he'll be out for a couple hours with us. Then I wanted at the midnight. Wait a minute. No, this is midnight on Monday. Monday night, when I'll be sitting in for Bob Raleigh. Tippi Hedren will be with us. Tippi Hedren, the legend, it says, legendary actress and mother of Melanie Griffith, who created a nonprofit organization dedicated to education educating the people about the sanctity of both animal rights and the environment. Anyway, she's an interesting lady. I'm Norm Nathan. Tom Howey is, is our producer and it's been fun to be with you through the night. I hope you can join me tonight at 11. Over the next couple of nights or so we'll have a lot of interesting guests on and interesting people who always call and I thank you who did take time out to call us during the night. Thanks a lot. Have a good day. Bye Bye, old sport. From WBZ Boston, it's now 4:35. [01:32:23] Speaker A: One of the things that made Norm's show so special was that callers was so comfortable with him just calling to say hi and having a fun conversation. Just sweetness all around. We've got a lot of thank yous to get to, so let's close the vault and leave this world a little sillier than we found it. [01:32:42] Speaker B: 4. [01:32:43] Speaker A: The Hotel Edison Kazoos Millard Fillmore. George Westinghouse. On the Edge and Out of Control. The Seven Wonders of the Woman's Mind. Brazen and Gross. Slaying and Brutalization. Penis Envy. Removing One's Clothes. Because I'm a doctor. Norm Nathan looks at the genders Frank Bank Norm's prize mailing delays Glenn from Brighton's crushes Circuit City. The osmonds. Friday the 13th on a Sunday knowing better than to win a game to avoid getting any junkie prizes. Richard Deacon the Giant Dumb birthday game rulebook Double checking discrepancies. Chagra. The Gulf of Perime Herring. The WBZ promotion department Breast envy. Cheap chintzy Philosophy bitterness. Canadian customs Peeper keyrings Less ugly photo proofs Airbrushed sultry looks Norm not knowing what he's talking about. Midnight run Norman Midnight run. Turkey Express. Eager Beaver. [01:34:04] Speaker B: What? [01:34:08] Speaker A: Star Magazine subscriptions Jams and jellies. Hyde Park Foxy ladies. Baba Shaynas Spousal codes in unspoken language. Nickels and May Nutcakes and boars. Pinochle. The incredible Mr. Limpet that big fat butcher Marty, Andy and Paul Williams. Better weird than totally bland. Pippix. Deenee Deener, Dina from Ontario. The lovely Adele Addie from Everett. The titillated Tom Howey. Shayna McCorky. And the world's foremost expert at studying women, Mr. Macho. Norm Judd Nathan. In all the Shayna Maidels everywhere, I'm Tony Nesbitt. [01:34:56] Speaker B: Okay? In Chagra, eat a lot of hearing and be smart Goes. As you know, Chagra has no vowels and only three consonants, so you really have to work hard at saying it.