Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Is it hot enough for you? Well, guess what? It's summer and that's what happens. Sit back in some AC and laugh with this dumb birthday game from July 20, 1996. After the game, stick around for a couple of bonus audio clips in honor of the anniversary of the moon landing. Let's title this one. Radio space shots, the players. I'm on the phone. Jack Hard is here. John from Ashland, 14 years old, but not for long. Keith from Wahlberg, North Carolina, and Wolfie. Oh, and Tom Howie is producing but not playing. We only get two birthdays. Kim Cairns in John Lodge, and then three historical events. In what year did the Apollo eleven astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin become the first men to walk on the moon? In what year did the Sioux indian leader sitting Bull surrender to federal troops? And in what year did Hank Aaron break Ty Cobb's record for games played for the love? Please check out Patreon and think about supporting the show. Episode 192, radio Space Shots launches its way to your ears in three, two and one.
[00:01:14] Speaker B: In fact, it was my kids, I think, the other day who said, daddy, why don't you knock off that? What the heck?
Well, I just pinch their noses and they'll never say that again. Okay, let's see. We have some interesting people, of course, some WBZ people, producers and big shots from this station. Tony Nesbitt being one of them. You're talking about me? I'm talking about you. I think you're a big shot producer. You're a big shot producer, and I think you're a terribly important person and a credit to whatever your race or religion or ethnic background or anything is. Thank you.
That's it. That's it. I thought you'd respond and someone said, I can hear you breathing into the microphone, which I imagine for some good looking young ladies, is probably kind of a kick in itself. Hey, hey, you might be getting some kick out of it, too. I don't want to get into that. Well, though I do, let me bring in the very lovely Jack Hart.
Hi. Hi. Hi, Jack. You know, Norm, instead of saying, what the heck, how about, well, I'll be dying.
That's a good one. That's kind of folksy, too, isn't it? Yeah. Do you think it's as folksy as what the heck? What the heck? Well, it's just about as folKsy, but it's not what the heck? Think about what the. Hayden. What the hey. What the hey. Yeah. What? Ha. Hoo ha is good. Hoo ha is very good. Yeah, I think that's good. Like a national catchphrase.
Anyway, how are you both you guys? You guys want to have it? Cause you don't get to talk to each other, do yoU? Very often. I thought maybe you'd like to take time to do that right this minute. Sure. Tony, how you beeN? How's your lumbago? Oh, very good. Good. How's your rutabAga?
I know that you were mentioning earlier, Jack, and I hate to interrupt this fast flowing conversation, but you were mentioning earlier that the Ted Williams tunnel is open. Yeah. What is the toll through the TeD.
What is the. What? Is there a toll? Or do you. I think it's $2. And do you get a baseball bat or any kind of cap when you get to the end and you can get a hot dog and a cold drink with cellophane over the top, you got a Red Sox program. That's right. And the guy at the tow booth says stuff like, get your Ted Williams tunnel tickets. Yeah, yeah. They throw the change back to you. That's right. They throw it to the guy, the car. Two cars in front of you, and he flips it in back of them. Yes. I feel that they don't have. And then on deck, circles.
That's what they take the toll.
Now, I've never been through the Ted Williams tunnel. Shed no tears for me, Evita.
I'm just saying that. I'm not saying that as a fan. You know what I think we should do sometime during the week? Get a vehicle that has commercial plates. And just for the heck of it, even though we're not actually doing any business, drive through, we'll be fooling them, you know. You know, something like that happened, and I'm sure, I know you're excited about me picking up on that and telling you a boring story as a result. Oh, but when they were. When they were having. Coming across the central artery from the Medford side, that side coming from the 93.
I don't know who it was. Oh, okay. You just. No, no, I mean, when the traffic at the beginning of that, they were allowing people with, what, three or more or two or more, as they do now in some parts of the Southeast Expressway. Well, the hov lane. Yeah, yeah. You know, if you had a certain amount of people in the car, you could take that express lane, which would be a little faster than the others. So at that time, I was suggesting for a couple of reasons, and I thought this was so hilarious, I wanted to bring it up to you now because I haven't talked about this for approximately 20 years. You know why that is? It's because nobody asks me when you're old, you know? Cause I'm old. That's right. And they dropped that right in the middle of the story. You have had a crazy show tonight, Nora. Oh, Jesus. Nobody under the age of 500 is called. Forgive me, those of you who are under the age of 500. But it. You're gonna get a call later and say normal 498. And I take offense to that. Yeah, I'm just right. I'm 498 years old, and I'm feeling great. And age doesn't really matter. 498 years young.
Well, that's the phrase I ate most of all. Vet and family values. I ate those two phrases most of everything.
Anyway, I was talking about the norm Nathan lifelike blow up balloon doll. You know that when they. I don't mean this in a sexual way because they have those. Those kind of dolls. They have Norm Nathan sexual dolls. No, no, no, please.
No, no. I had these. These people dolls where you'd sit them beside you in the car so they'd make up. In fact, they started doing that. Some people were doing something like that on this other stuff. Anyway. You could have them sitting beside you, and so you could get through that. That lane easier, you know, through the express line. They wouldn't stop because you had the required number of passengers. Then I thought, in addition to that, just having a well known person sitting beside you no matter where you were driving would be kind of nice. Like, hey, did you see that?
Could that possibly be Jimmy Pearsall sitting behind that guy with whoever the person might be compared with waving arm and moving jaw?
See, we could bring it up. We could bring it up to date and say, can you imagine Sharon Stone is in a car that beat up car with that guy? Yeah. Yeah. So I thought. I thought the Norton life size people, balloons, dolls, inflatable thingies would be attractive. They'd say things like, what the heck? And hoo ha. No, they wouldn't try to windows it down. Hoo ha.
You wouldn't. Obviously, they wouldn't say anything. But then I discovered that they could have that microchip installed, and they can speak.
I don't care to go that far with it. Will you stop? Well, the ultra deluxe version, you know, you get your regular blow up versions for 399, and then you get the $800 version. I see. No, I just kind of make it as inexpensive for people as possible just to make them feel important and also to get through high speed lanes where they need more than one person so if I was driving, could I have one of you? And people would say, look at that young person with that. With that Norm Nathan fella, that old guy. We said, he. The guy who made up that blow up doll idea. Pull that car over. I say, who's that old guy with Tony Nesbitt? I understand he used to be about 500.
Because as I understand, Tony Nesbitt is a coordinating producer. It could be Norm Nathan sitting next to him. But I don't know, Norm looks awfully wrinkled.
And it'd be because you were deflating. That's right.
And what's that sound he's making? Yeah, yeah.
Have you seen. Have you seen that?
What is that? You know, the mustard commercial, the fancy mustard thing. Poopon. Yeah, poop on. Poop on the guy's guy squeezing the bottle in the back seat. And it's making it sound like he's breaking wind.
And so the chauffeur is turning around or making funny expressions like, what's going on, Beck? He's lighting a man's yacht.
He's making a sandwich himself and squeezing it. And I thought poopol. Kind of bliss themselves. It's a real class act. What are they doing with that for? You know. But you remembered it. You did. I suppose I did. But then again, would you eat it?
You know, they make that sound and they. It's poupon. I mean, it's. You know.
All I know. All I know is the other day, coming through the Tobin bridge, through the toll station. Yeah.
I was just pulling up to the toll booth and a guy in a big, long stretch limo next to me stopped in the next line, came over and said, excuse me, sir, do you have any poupon?
So they weren't making that up. Those things actually do happen. And I said, yes. I always keep Poupon in my glove compartment.
And did you give him any and drive off?
And I ran him down, as a matter of fact. Yes, sir. I ran over his toes. Someone asked me just a little earlier, they said, do you know what time it is? I said, yes.
Kept going. Okay, you see? Okay, we looked. We've done a little bit of humor left in all of them. No, there isn't. No, not a bit. Okay, we have Jode from Texas. Who's with us, Joan Lou.
Well, you're a wordy person, aren't you, eh, blue? Oh, it's John. I'm sorry. John from Ashland. John from Ashland. Oh, hold on a minute, John. Let me keep. Bring my scorecard up to date because I thought I'd say. I thought that. I thought this was somebody else, John from Ashland. Because, you know, as you know, these scorecards go up in the WBZ museum and hall of fame.
They're all. They've all become collectors items. And people who want them laminated, you know, so they can save them forever. Can buy copies at only fifty cents a copy.
Oh, by the way, I'm really hilariously funny tonight, aren't I? I'm glad you appreciate it. John, by the way. What? John, by the way, age doesn't matter because I'm only four.
Well, it matters to me. You're a punk, kid. Get rid of him.
Okay.
Okay. So. Okay, John, you're only 14 now. What are you doing up this?
I try to get to sleep, but I just can't. Okay. No, I'm glad you called. I'm so glad to hear young voices. That's what happens when they give these kids summer vacations. They end up sort of just relaxing around the house all day. Comes time for them to go to sleep and. No, they're up all night listening to the radio and watching television, using up the electricity. No, not. We can't really criticize them for that because we're up much. Even when I have home, I'm up much of the night. Yeah. And then I'm sleeping all day and people think I'm a bum. Me, too. Yeah, you too. Yeah, you can't. Oh, I am a bum. But that's, you know. No, you're not a bum. You know what you are? What am I? Hold on a minute while I check the cardinal. You were coordinating producer of the Norm Nathan show. That's what you are. Coordinating producer? Yeah. You make it sound so. So nasty, Norm. Geez. I know. And actually, being a bum probably would be a step. The least I can do is have a nice sounding, you know, I don't get paid there. At least I can actually get a nice, you know, business card. What do they do, withhold the race and give you a longer title? Yeah, pretty much. We have.
Okay, we have Keith, who's down in North Carolina. Hi, Keith. Where's Keith from? Are you North Carolina? Is that you, Keith? You got it. Gomer says, hey, hey, this is gonna be a good, dumb birthday show, guys. If it ever gets started. I know that. I know it. We just. What we do is we fool around a lot first. You know, this is known as.
What do they call that in the. Well, tv, Norm. It's called Comedy Central. Yeah. No, no, I turn the radio on and I've got comedy central I love and it. Go ahead. Yeah, no, we don't have Comedy Central. Where, where I live, I pay a very high fee for cable, and I only get two stations, and they both do nothing but broadcast infomercials about how to get wrinkles out of your face, how to exercise and how to lose weight. But they very clear. Yeah, but they, but they come in very clear, so I'm pleased with it. You know, don't forget catching the big bass. Catch it. That's right.
That's right. There's a fishermen out there showing father.
I just tried everything. I tried, I tried a hook, I tried all kinds of new devices to catch fish. Couldn't catch nothing. That's why I invented my own. It's called, I'm doing a Richard Jenny. He does a bit on that and some of the infomercial shows that are on during the night.
Where are you, by the way, in North Carolina, Keith, near a little town of Walberg, North Carolina, just south of Winston Salem. North.
Oh, okay. You gotta come in out in the country, but sort of close to cosmopolitan. Is it anywhere near Mount Pilot?
Well, actually, it's Mount airy, like from the Andy Griffith show about 45 minutes south. Uh huh. Was that, was that the town he was in, Mount airy? That's where Indy Griffiths from. Oh, Myberry was in the show. Oh, but, but that was based upon sort of like a mount airy. There was no, he's saying he was from mon air, like he really is truly from. On the tv show, they talked about Mount Pilate, but near Mount Airy, where Indi Griffith was born and raised, there is a pilot mountain.
So he kind of took actors license and changed the words around. He doesn't like to admit that mountain airy is really mayberry.
Does it look at all like Mayberry did on the screen? Oh, to me, it absolutely does. Really? Yeah. People have said that we've been down there. Yeah, that, that there are, there are many of the same kinds of stores, although what, they have different names.
Absolutely. Norm.
If you're down in North Carolina, stop by Mount Airy and it looks like Mayberry stop in and have get a sandwich from Juanita and a haircut from.
Yeah. Floyd was one of my favorites, so I thought he was funny before he started having strokes. And then they, after a while, he was actually strapped into a variety of braces to either a sitting brace or a standing brace after he started having strokes. Howard McNair, is that right? Did that really happen? Yep. Yep. He had a and then they'd either have him hold the newspaper or, like, a comb in his hand, and that would be it. Oh, that's interesting. I didn't realize that that's when he started to get real. Hey, Norm, it's actually kind of sick when you come down. It's not interesting. It's sick. I didn't say that.
Speaking of sick. Oh, boy. You know who's on the line with us right now? Who? Wolfie. Who? Who? Wolfie. Really? Wolfie. Yeah. Hi, Wolfie. Good morning.
See what I mean?
Good morning to you. Good morning to you, Wolfie. And, uh, John, let me clue you in. Yeah, let me clue the world in. Yes. No one has ever yet died from old age.
Okay, Wolfie, I know that's hilarious by itself, but there's probably one more line next to that that probably kills the whole thing. Thing. And what would that be?
Either. I really don't. See, see, see? Okay. Hey, Norm. Yes? You know what you should do? I probably make it a habit to mention on your show every once in a while what people are going to hear now on the phones before they get put on the air, that they hear that little burst of static. Oh, I see. Okay. It just kind of is a little. Hey, you know, when we put you on the air, this is what you'll hear. So, kind of an added feature. I want to tell that to Tom Howe because he's not my coordinating producer, but he's.
What would you call him? What title will we give him? Associate. Associate producer. Associate producer means there's another producer, doesn't it?
Don't you need at least two producers? So they both are associates of each other or something? Director.
Director. Okay.
Anyway, let's get on with this. You know, the worst thing about all of this is there aren't too many well known people who are born.
No, what we get. So we're going to do a lot of. We'll do dates of the historical events that happen on this and some very interesting things that you would know. But anyway, we'll do the birthdays. First born on July 20. Kim Carneshe, the singer. She and Kenny Rogers were members of the new Christie Minstrels. Her biggest hit double Grammy winner in 1981 for song and record of the year. Bette Davis.
Yeah. Bette Davis. That was her. She was a new Christie minstrel.
Yes, that's what it says. With. With Kenny Rogers. Wow.
The co written Bette Davis Eyes, co written by Jackie Deshannon. She and Kenny recorded don't fall in love with a dreamer. Don't fall in love with a dreamer.
Excellent. It was excellent.
Okay. 1981 is the only date I have. And that was the Betty Davis eyes. Okay, so how. How old do you think? Let's start with you, John. Yeah. What do you think? How old is Kim Carnes?
Well, you can guess Betty Davis for double points.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's the question here? Kim Kardz. How old is she? How old is she?
How many times do I have to repeat this? Are you gonna tell me when she was born or what? Well, no, it's not a math quiz. No. Have you ever heard the dumb birthday game before? No, I've never heard. Okay, let's get rid of you because you're. You're gonna be a hazard here. Um, I thought the rules are about as elementary as you could make them. Yeah, well, what year was. What year was she born? So then he was gonna figure out. I suppose he thought this was a math quiz. She had ten toes. She had two removed. How many does she have left?
And probably they will meet in Plantara, Oregon.
Both trains traveling at 46. Leaving. Anyway, Keith, how old do you think Tim is? Yes. Tim Carnes. What do you think? Well, Norm, I'm gonna think like ANTB might think.
Okay. I'm gonna say she's 52.
Oh, boy, what a night this is. I'll be happy when this is over. Hey, Norm, I'm feeling the wind in my hair as I drive home. Just my luck. My hair will blow off. It'll end up really rotten. Evening.
Okay. Anyway, stick my head out the window, get bugs all over my teeth.
Well, you don't know if you cut me off. I cut you off. I had a call back. Yeah. So I don't know what any of the guesses have been so far for. Kim. Karen, you cut off. Yes. You hung up on me. I didn't hang up on you. You certainly did.
Did we hang up on him, Tom?
Yeah. Oh, we did. Did I do that?
Oh, I. Oh. Oh, I see. I was aiming for John, the one who wanted to know what year Kim Carnes was born. I thought I hit his button, but apparently I hit yours. Mine? You suck my battleship. Okay, Wolfie, what do you think? The guest is just Keith. Keith guessed 52. And Wolfie is still talking. He has a habit of talking right through everything. How old? 46. 46. Okay, we've hit 46. 46, 46. Can I give you a membro from Revere beach about 50 years ago? No, not right now. See, we're in the middle of this big time. Game.
Jack, what do you think? How old you think? Kim Kard that sees you? The new Christie minstrel. That's right. She also played on Revere beach and got some of the sand in her shoes.
Sand from Havana.
Let's see.
She married Wolfie a couple of times, but unfortunately, he kept digging his way up.
Kim, Karen. Whoosh. If she was a new Christie minstrel.
Now, again, the big Benny Davis. What kind of years are we talking for? That. That must be the sixties. What's that song? 62 world out there. No matter what you do.
Hey, kid, how'd you like to make record?
You got the voice, you got the looks.
Just check in with Keith at the door, Jack. Anyway, what do you think she's gonna be? 48 at least. 48 at least. Okay, Tony, you see the sixties. Was that new Christie minstrels? Yeah. Sounds like a breath mint, doesn't it?
No. Christy minstrels. Mmm. Fredison.
Uh, unkissable. Sweet. Now, morning breath. Never. I just pop one of my new Christie minstrels.
81.
I'm trying to remember. She's not 81. No, no, no. At 81.
81, Betty Davis eyes. She was 81.
Stop doing bad jokes. And don't we have other people on the line? 15 years ago she was. Well, she could be. Okay, 45 wasn't my original answer. But Jack kind of got me thinking about these new Christie minstrels, and I upped my guess, so 45. Okay, she's actually, she's 50. Oh, 52. Now, Keith said 52.
All right. And Jack's at 48, so they were both two years off, and so they tied. So Keith and Jack have won this never ending first round.
Okay, how about you want to take a shot at the senator by shot? I don't.
Senator Barbara Makulska.
Mikulska. Hold on a minute. Never mind if you can't pronounce the names, you know. No, no, she's. She's an interesting lady, and I really do like her, but I don't know. That's not the kind of thing that's really fun to try. So let's try.
How old is she? She's 60. Okay. She's an interesting senator, and she is on a.
Out of her mind.
I can't remember what state she's in. She's nervous. That's her state.
She's in a state of depression.
Isn't that awful? I just. I can't seem to find anything. Wait a minute. Yeah, here. Here it is.
Let's see.
Senator Barbara Mikulski to me.
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Because we have a lot of talk hosts on the station who really don't dig democrats at all. I don't know whether you've noticed that they keep it hidden. Pretty much.
You know, I heard something about that. Yeah, I haven't noticed.
That's right. Tony Oliva, baseball outfit. Fielder from Cuba originally, American League batting champion three times. But I don't have the ears. I don't even know who he is. You know, Tony Oliva.
He was really one of the great baseball players. I've heard the name. Yeah, Tony Oliva. You want to skip that one, too? Sure. He's 56. Gee, I was going to say that. That was what I was really going to say. Okay, the next one I have is John Lodge, a singer guitarist from England with the Moody blues. His biggest hit, nights in white satin.
Is he talking about himself there? Because that's a little questionable, isn't it?
Nights in white satin. Nights in white satin by night satin. We're talking about the evening that kind of night. Not the k kind of. Not the human night. Not the human night? No, not the other human night. The nature knight. Because that would be knights in armor. Well, knights and white satin. What do you think they wear under the armor? What's that? Yeah, that's right. So that doesn't. It doesn't itch so that they enjoy it more.
How do you get those things to slip on? Yeah, tough to get into. Why do you think they want to wear it so long? Because of the day you see me in armor, I'm talking through my helmet. But you don't know what I got on underneath this armor.
You have on armor all.
Let's move on. I can see through that armor, Norm. Okay, anyway. Anyway, we've got the John Lodge.
His biggest hit, nights in white satin, was recorded in 1972.
You guys want to take a guess at that? How about you, Tony?
You asked me if I want to take a guess, if at all. Are we going? Actually, this is the only other birthday we have, so I thought we'd go with that. And since he was 54. Popular rock and roll band. Yeah. Oh, no, I know that.
Okay, Jack, what do you think? 51. 51. Okay. What do you think? Wolfie?
The question. The $64 question.
Are you. You waiting for me to repeat the question? No. No, that's his answer. Oh, 64. Normie, can you send me a little more signal from your end to my ear?
Yes.
Can you hear me now? No.
How did you know what I said then?
How did you know how to respond? How many fingers am I holding up?
What do you think John Lodge. Take a guess. Wolfie.
I said 64. Oh. 64 was the answer. Okay. And Keith, what do you think? Norm, nice and white, satin guy. I'm gonna go with 52 again. 52 again is a pretty good guess. It means that you were tied again with Jack Hartley. All right. Wait a minute. Let me see. Maybe you're not. No, you're not. Uh oh. You're actually tied with Tony. John Lodge is 53. Oh.
So Keith was said 52 one year short, and Tony said 54, which is one year off the other way. I almost didn't want to guess this. The last one. I was going to say 56. And I said, don't guess it. And I would have got that one right. Right? Yeah. Now, Keith. Keith has two correct answers. One a piece. Now. But, Jack, Tony, now I'm going to give you some historical events which are really quite interesting. For example, it was on this date, and this day being July 20 at Apollo eleven, astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin Buzz Aldrin became the first men to set foot on the moon. Armstrong stepped on the lunar surface at 10:56 p.m. eastern time and proclaimed, as you know, that's one small step for man and one great leap for mankind.
He spent time on the trip to the moon thinking about what he would say. He said he really wanted to say one small step for a man, but goofed.
The Apollo eleven astronauts collected 48.5 pounds of moon rocks and stayed on the moon for over 21 hours.
There were anxious moments when computers failed. In the last minute of descent, Armstrong's pulse registered 160 beats a minute.
That's more than you really cared to know, isn't it? But anyway, that's the way it was, that historical moment.
What year was that?
Apollo eleven. Apollo eleven? Yeah. Neil Armstrong, Edward and Buzz Aldrin, first men to walk on the moon. I remember that. They stepped out of their lunar module.
You do that every time you pull to the parking lot.
Right?
Excuse me, sir. Would you just lock up my lunar module? I'll be in the plush new studios of WBC. Bring me the keys.
Thank you so much.
Oh, I haven't asked anybody yet, have I? No. No. Jack, what year do you think? 1960. 919. 69. Okay. And, Wolfie, what year do you think that was? I think it's on the first silver before it was minted. 1960. 419. 64. You felt a long way away. I can't hear Wolfie that well, but I can hear him well enough.
Okay, Keith, what do you think? What year was that? Apollo eleven. Norm, I gotta go with Jack? 69. Okay. And what do you think, Tony? 1960. 919. 69 is correct. It was on July 24, 1969. 20th.
I'm sorry. July 20, 1969. Yes. Yes.
That means Keith has got three of them, and Jack has got two, and Tony has two. What's Wolfie have? What about John from Ashland? And Wolfie has.
Zip, zip, zip. I want you all in New York to watch the loose.
Hold it.
The loose bloomers in the fourth race at Belmont.
You always have to get something like that in there. Hey, listen, if you're so good at horse racing, why am I rich? Why are you not wealthy? Or at least more on the losers than I bet on the winners? Well, then what are you giving advice for to people and tips on who to bet on? I'm not giving them tips. I'm just telling them to watch loose bloomers in the fourth race. I didn't say to Bennett, oh, he was talking about somebody watching that race. If you were watching loose bloomers. Is that. Is that really the name of a horse? Yeah. Loose bloomers. Yeah. Do you know. Do you know what would happen if I had named my horse loose bloomers? She would have stomped all over me, and rightly so. The animal rescue league would have been up there. That's right.
Loose bloomers. How can you name a horse anyway?
What'd you do to John, anyway? What's that again? I got rid of John. He was asking some stupid questions. He had never heard the game before, and he was just saying, well, what year was she born? You know, things like that. And he was trying to be cute, and I just kind of got tired of him. That's not nice. I know it's not nice, but. Rotten to kid. Yeah. 14 year old punk kid. She passed his bedtime, right? Yeah. Wouldn't be sleeping.
No, he didn't seem to know a whole lot. I mean. That's right. He was a 14 year old.
No, I didn't. I didn't. I don't know how old he was. I certainly didn't do it because he was that young or anything. That didn't really matter. But anyway, here's one.
He was on July. This is a historical thinking from the last century. July 20, Sioux indian leader sitting Bull, a fugitive since the battle of Little Bighorn, surrendered to federal troops.
That kind of was like the end of the old west. He was about the last of them. And he, of course, had done a job with Custer, Custer's last stand and all that. Wiped out his regiment, but survived and took off. And. But finally, in what year did he surrender to federal troops.
Okay, we'll start with you, Keith. What do you think? Oh, thanks, Norm.
Custer's last thing. Well, yeah, it was. Not that. It was. He'd escaped from, you know, gotten away there.
Saying he escaped is kind of silly because he. He wiped out all of Custer's. Custer's troops. But he took off, and finally, in 18, what did he surrender? I almost told it, didn't I? But I told you it was. Yeah. I appreciate it, because I obviously wasn't awake in history class that day. No, actually, I did say it was the last century. So you knew it had to be the 18 hundreds. Exactly. When. I'm gonna go right in the dead center.
1850.
1850, okay.
And, Wolfie, what do you think? When the. When did.
When did sitting Bull surrender? Well, let's put it this way here. Custer was the first man to ever wear an arrow shirt. Oh, God.
1864. That joke was so old, I fell off my dinosaur and broke my wooden underwear.
Well, these don't have loose plumas.
1864. Okay, Jack, what do you think? Hmm? Trying to think of when. When Custer's last stand was. Was it after the civil war?
I can't tell you that. Oh, that would be cheating.
Yeah, it was after the civil war. I have a feeling it was after the civil war. And.
1870. 218, 72.
Okay. What do you think, Tony? It was exactly 115 years ago today in 1881. That's exactly right. How did you know that? Oh, I have my ways. Did you just look it up that way? You know what I got in the mail today? Yeah. I got the new american desk encyclopedia, and I just thought I'd test it out, and I found. This is. It's in microscopic print. Okay. And I found sitting bull, and it says, after the Sioux surrender, 1881, he retired.
That's right. 1881 is exactly right. Hey, Tony, I'm impressed. This is Keith.
You don't have to identify yourself with that accent. You might not know my voice. You guys were cutting up so much, I feel like. Man, you guys are pros. I'm sorry. Is this wolfie? What?
Never mind. Anyway, I'm not hearing duo. I know we're having problems here, and I'm sorry about that.
Give me the sentence structure again.
No, we've already gone through that.
This was the surrender's chief sitting bull, and it did happen in 1881, which is what Tony said, and so. That sounds amazing. Yeah. Tony has three correct answers, and Keith has three also. So there's a tie there, and Jack has a couple.
Did you. Did you have the information about the Apollo eleven. No, I knew that.
Okay. Okay. I do remember. Here's a sports thing. Hank Aaron.
It was on a July 20. Also broke Ty Cobb's record.
Appearing in his 3034th career game.
Aaron Washington, 40 years old. Playing his 20th major League baseball season.
When he broke Ty Cobb's record for. At least for a number of games played. I thought that might be his home run. Obviously, it was not.
Well, anyway, what year was that? Let's start with you, Tony. What do you think?
He was 40 years old at the time. And this is what. This was his 20th major league baseball season. And he broke Tycom's record.
He appeared in his 3034th career game.
I see.
20 major league season. Baseball season.
Did he play much longer than that, or was that it?
I don't think he played too much longer. Cause he was 40 at this time. Yeah.
1970.
519. 75. Okay, Jack, what do you say? Hmm? Hank Aaron. You say Hank Aaron is the very person. Hank Aaron. When did he play? When did he. When did he play then? When did he do that thing to that fella's record?
Broke Tycom's record for consecutive McGames.
Let's see. That's gonna be. Yeah, it wasn't consecutive games. It was just most games.
I believe. I believe that's exactly right. Okay. He played them all in a row.
Wait a minute. Let's see. No, he appeared in his 3034th career game. It wasn't necessarily. That's right. That's right. Wouldn't they be all. Lou Gehrig actually had the record for consecutive games. He had the record. Now. Cal Ripkin. No, Cal Ripken. Now. But I mean, at this point. Well, how would it be other than consecutive? Meaning. Well, no, just a number of. The number of games he played. All in all. I mean, you know, still a lot of games.
Hmm. Yeah, that's. Ooh, what's a cuz? One day. One day they're gonna say about you, Jack. Yeah. That you probably have set a new record for consecutive traffic report. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, not even consecutive. Just that many traffic reports. That many. That many traffic reports. All in. All in a row. Not necessarily in a row. No. Just the number of them you'd have to beat. I think Joe Green must hold a record for that. Now. Joe Green probably holds the record. Probably. Followed by. By Joe Stapleton. Joe Stapleton is right up there.
Malcolm. Yeah, Malcolm probably has. Malcolm alter is up. Anybody in the world. Yeah, Malcolm is up there also.
The guy who was with. I worked with at HTH. Who's down in Florida now. Who retired, who flew his helicopter.
He was a licensed pilot, but Joe Green. He just said Joe Green. No, no, I know, I know. He was a licensed colonel. Oh, no. Officer Bill O'Connell. No, no.
You know, the awful. I can't think of his name. And he was a. Eli. Wicked eye Eli. No, it wasn't Eli. No, no. EB Wrightout one of the Wright brothers. Was he be Wright?
Wilbur Wright? No, it was.
He lived in North Reading, right near me.
And his real name was Arthur McTague.
And he changed. Oh, oh, you've told me this a thousand times, and I can't think of his name. Kevin. Kevin O'Keefe. There you go. His real name was Arthur McTague. Arthur McTague. Like that Jacob parties over south, you know, barbecues, cookouts, stuff. And he'd have all of his friends who'd known him for years, and his family, and they'd all call him Artie.
And to me, he was Kevin, because I'd never known him by any other name. It was kind of a. Kind of a blank spot there. Now what did he want to do, sound irish instead of scottish? No, I think. I think he got the name when he was here at BZ. You mean they just gave it to him? Yeah. At that time, they were changing everybody's name and they gave him that name. And he did the all night record show. That was long before he became a traffic reporter. But it wasn't that like, they changed it to anything. You know, like stud Rockley or anything. Or Rocky cliffs.
Even O'keeffe. We better move along. Time is running out, and we have 78 more commercials. Let me see. Okay, I made that up.
The Hank Aaron thing. I'll say 77. Okay. What do you think, Wolfie? Well, being consistently wrong, I will say 73. Okay. Actually, you've been very close on a lot of them. Keith. What do you think? Does not make a winner.
We go back to that again, Norm, I have no idea. I'm going to say 1971. Okay? The answer is 1974, and Tony said 1975, and Wolfie said 73. So they were both within a year of it. And that means Tony has won the game.
That's too bad. There's a whole lot of more junk I get at home that I can't get rid of. Who was in second place? Second place was Keith with three. Why don't you send Keith something? Because I looked up that answer.
Which answer was that? Hank Aaron, the sitting bullet.
Well, I don't. There's nothing wrong with that. Anybody could look up anything that's well, I figured just if you want to get rid of some stuff, Keith, call all the way down there in Carolina. Okay, well, let's take Keith stumber. I'll send you a bunch of junk. Keith as the. Hey, thank you guys so much. I had a ball. Well, it was good having you. Now, hold on, and Tom will take your name and address. Okay. You should do like, a radio on to get rid of some of this stuff. Okay. And Wolfie, can I ask for my present? No, just Noki, we're running very, very late. And Tony and Jack, I appreciate both of you very, very much. Thanks a lot.
[00:45:35] Speaker A: All that excellent and madcap conversation before the game. I loved when the game evolved into that, most of which carried over to the game itself. I hope there are more of these in the vault. As promised, here are a couple of bonus audio clips. First is Steve Lavelli and a riveting call from Andy about Morse code. Then a featurette with Ellis Hennequin from Bloomberg radio News about Tiny Tim. It may have been called telling stories around the kitchen table.
[00:46:03] Speaker B: What does it stand for? You hear me okay? Yes, I can. Okay. In the early days of radio, everybody used Morse code.
And in order to make communications more efficient, a series of codes were devised which, when used, represented sentences QSL represents. I confirm that I received your last transmission.
Okay. And there are a whole bunch of other codes that are similar. And I guess I'm stupid. And how did the letters QSL come from that statement? I confirm that I received your transmission. You know, the actual acronymical values. I'm not sure how the heck it would. It came to be QSL, but there are a whole bunch of similar code. Yeah. If you put a question behind it, that means it's a question. Did you receive my transmission, Andy, I'm out of time, but thank you for the call. I appreciate it. Okay. All right. Somebody once told me that QSL doesn't actually stand for anything, but. But we do know. I do know that it's those kind of cards, and I got a few myself. I'm Steve Lavalley. For David Brudnoy, it was a great night. Happy Hanukkah, everybody. Paul Sullivan is next on WBZ.
[00:47:13] Speaker C: He hit 1968, the ultimate one hit wonder, but he turned that hit into quite an amazing career. Celebrities don't come any more unlikely than Tiny Tim. He was fat. He was not very good looking. He certainly didn't have much of a voice. His instrument was the precise antithesis of cool. But he let none of that stand in the way of his celebrity, and over the years, the man simply refused to disappear. Sure, he was mostly famous for being famous, but I dare you to find a living, breathing American who has never heard the name or who can't hum a few bars of tiptoe through the tulips with me. Born Herbert Corey, the six foot one inch singer got his stage name in 1960 from an agent who specialized in midget acts. In an age of hard driving renegade rockers like Hendricks and Joplin and the rest, tiny Tim was a sort of comic foil. This high voiced, ukulele strumming, overgrown flower child. No, no one ever took him seriously. But then, that was never the point. His wedding to miss Vicky on the Tonight show attracted 40 million viewers. His cult was that big. The marriage lasted a few minutes longer than the show. He never had another hit record. He was on his third wife when he died. He had heart trouble. He was perhaps 64 years old. But if America really is the land of self creation, Tiny Tim was one of the oddball patron saints, a man who invented himself in the most preposterous way imaginable. A man millions may not be mourning, but a man millions can name. For Bloomberg News radio, I'm Ellis Hennequin.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: Now, wasn't that worth the wait? Kind of a little closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it for. What the heck. Lumbagos and rutabagas. Norm hawking tolbooth gifts shed no tears for me. Evita years young and family values. The Norm Nathan blow up balloon dolls. Non sexual, of course, for ho v lane purposes. Celebrity options available. Grey Poupon. Dumb birthday game. Laminated scorecards. Andy Griffith, pilot Mountain and Mount Airy, North Carolina. Mayberry, Floyd the barber. The new Christie minstrels. Bette Davis. Eyes. Jackie Deshannon, Kim Carnes, wolfie. Buried in the sands of Revere Beach. Norm's lunar module. Loose bloomers at the fourth race at Belmont. Tiny Tim Ellis Hennequin. Bloomberg News radio setting records for traffic reports given. Arthur McTeague, also known as Kevin O'Keefe, Stud Rockley, Tom Howey, Jack I'll be darned. Heart and the kissably sweet norm. Nathan, I'm coordinating producer Tony Nesbit.
