Norm Nathan's Vault of Silliness with Tony Nesbitt - Ep 226 - Interesting People Telling Interesting Stories

[00:00:01] Another excellent mix of Norm Nathan shows are in store for you today. These come from March 12th and 13th, 1994. Then we visit May 11th, 1994. And then we get quite a surprise at the end as like a bolt out of the blue, in comes December 25, 1993. Well, it all flows nicely and I've titled it Interesting People Telling Interesting Stories. It's right to calls Margaret talking about having met 11 presidents and that she's writing her memoir. Now. I did a little research and I do believe this was Margaret Coit, or Coit, not sure how we pronounce the name. And she was a rather prolific author and won the 1951 Pulitzer Prize for her biography on John C. Calhoun. It's unfortunate that the whole call isn't here. I wonder if there's more or additional calls from her in the vault as she is fascinating and she also taught at Bunker Hill Community College while I was a student there. Fred from New Jersey on railroad restaurant cars, roadside diners and lunch wagons. Now it's time for a bunch of traffic reports. Three, count them, three, from Jack Hart covering an overturned tanker truck. And we also hear Joe Stapleton and Joe Green in his bzcopter. There's a brief call from Bob talking about Moxie Joe with a tale about the American Indians digging for mussels at Carson beach and Columbia Point. Norm intros a traffic report, a great call from another Bob talking cars and hat blocking. You'll just have to wait and listen. Norm sings with the chimes, old friend Raj from MIT and the yearly tuition riots. Then a serious call from Marty in South Boston, commenting on Louis Farrakhan. Norm adeptly teases a marazine commercial, but we don't hear it. And Charlene Norm signs off and the next show begins. We're playing 20 questions, I believe, but it is inventor Jeff Pinsker of University Games. The show is in progress, so we missed the first game, except for a couple of calls. Artie and Jared from Canton. We then begin to play where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego? With Lisa in Somerville, Bridget from Timmons, Ontario, Bob in Fitchburg, Dorothy from Randolph Louise near Kingston, Ontario. Steve calling from his car in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Norm asks him a question, by the way that Steve pauses mysteriously and we never get the answer. So we move on to some regular Norm Nathan show stuff. Norm singing again, this time with his show open. Get a call from Ed, who's a caricature artist down at Quincy Market, and he has a story. Our good friend Kristen from Dorchester on the first Egg of Spring contest. She's a loser. But for those familiar with this annual event, do you recall what the prize was? Stay tuned. Peggy, speaking about a gentleman named Walt Andrews. Natalie from Northampton, also talking Walt Andrews, and that is the correct way to pronounce it. And it is spelled A, N, D, R, U, S. Fred. And Yarmouth, Maine. And having just completed her breathing exercises, the one and only Generosa. Oh, Floyd from North Carolina as well. Somehow. We return to Jeff Pinsker with a Christmas night show from 1993. And we continue with a Christmas traffic report with Bruce Connolly and calls from Olive Anne, Herb and Peabody, Joan and Emily from Needham. Norm reads a cute story of a woman, Mrs. Porcaro, who retired after 33 years of turning socks outside in or inside out. And also reads a bit of Entertainment Weekly's Top Entertainers of the year for 1993. Episode 226 Interesting people telling interesting stories bends your ears in 3, 2 and 1. I knew 11 presidents and I'm writing my memoirs now. Who was your favorite president? [00:04:12] My husband and I agreed. [00:04:16] Harry Trubin. Yeah, he was an interesting man, wasn't he? You were imagining him carrying around history books. He never. He never went to college, did he or did he? Did he ever graduate college? He only graduated from junior high school. You mean he never graduated even high school? No. [00:04:34] So you talk about being self taught. He certainly was in that category. But there was one thing I liked about Kennedy. Yeah? [00:04:42] It may not have made him a great president, but it made him a better one. [00:04:47] He saw me looking at all his books and he said, try me on them. I've read them all. [00:04:56] He wanted you to give him a quiz? [00:04:59] In a sense. He wanted you to quiz him on the. On the contents of these books? Well, I don't remember whether I did or not. Yeah, half Irish and from the South. You sound so typically New England, Margaret. It's hard for me to believe that. Well, after living with Albert Elwell. You sound like a Yankee, Al. I know. And Albert Elwell was the epitome of Yankeeism, I think you couldn't take him for anything but being an old Yankee. Well, he was. I know he was. He was born an old Yankee when he was, I bet you, two weeks old, he probably looked like an old Yankee. No, he was the handsomest thing I ever saw. Oh. When I wrote my book on John C. Calhoun, I was going to write one on Bora and I saw him. [00:05:51] And you fell in love with him immediately? Yes, But I found out he was married and so I set to work. I found out a scandal about Bora. I'll tell you about it some other time. [00:06:09] It's very fascinating. Okay. Is that going to be in your memoirs? Oh, yes. Oh, I can hardly wait to read them. Has to do with Alice Roosevelt, longers Alice Roosevelt. Oh, you mean the daughter of Theodore Roosevelt? Yeah, I met her at John Kennedy's at a party. Yeah. [00:06:31] You know what I have to do? I have to start moving along now. 60. Somewhere in there, there's a road called Route 72 that goes over to an island that's about five or six miles off the coast. And it's a strip, it's very narrow, but it's 18 miles. [00:06:52] And on that island there is a Pennsylvania railroad car which is a dining car, and it's been turned into a restaurant. What do they call that? Do you recall that, Fred? No, I don't remember the name. Yeah, that's interesting. We have. For people who didn't have the program yesterday, I talked with three people, as a matter of fact. One who's written a book on diners, one who has a publication called Roadside, which is a quarterly just about the diners, and one. One fellow whose family owns a diner up in Salem. And we were. We were just talking about diners and favorite diners and how they came to be and why are they shaped like railroad cars and. And some of them, of course, are actually railroad cars like the ones you're talking about. The diner was really short for dining car. Anyway, that's right. Before that, they were lunch wagons and quite a different. I thought that was interesting the way they came to be. That was the closest thing to a fast food place before, you know, McDonald's and Burger King and all other places opened up. Sure. With takeout windows and everything. In fact, the early. The early lunch wagons, that was strictly. That. Strictly takeout stuff because it wasn't until later they made them bigger and brought people actually inside to sit down by. By later. I mean, it all started around the 1850s down in Rhode Island. That early? Yeah, 1852, I think. I think. I don't think you were around in those days. Oh, yeah, I've been around since the. Since the beginning of time. In fact, when I first came here, the entire. [00:08:28] The entire land was covered with water. I had to hang around until they separated the water from the water from the earth. I don't know what I'm saying. I had a funny thing going there and I blew it. In any case, that's how it came to be. It was Some guy got the idea it was kind of like a push cart. He worked in a composing room in a newspaper in Providence, I guess there were about three of them. And they would work all night because they were all morning editions. And so he would. He would push. Push the push cart there. And people come out. You know, people who are working all night could. Could have a break because there were no restaurants open during that time. Eventually it got to be bigger and it was pushed. It was. It was pulled by a horse. And then eventually they got to be stationary and they got to be the dining cars that we know today. It's kind of interesting. In Connecticut there's a place where they have some. Some overnight accommodation, like the old cabins. All. All. They're all railroad cars. Yeah, I forget where that is. I talked with somebody who was in charge of all of that. We just are in love with railroads, I guess. And so we're willing to, you know, to stay in a place overnight or eat in a place as long as it looks like a railroad. There's an extra sort of attraction to us. Yeah, well, you know, I think diners probably are going to make a comeback, and I'll tell you why. Because they were saying the same thing yesterday. They say there's no inflation right now, but, you know, a diner used to be a place where you could get a fast, inexpensive meal. Right. And if you're going out to restaurants, I think you're going to notice the same thing up in Massachusetts as down here, and that is that the prices for food in restaurants is going up dramatically. [00:10:15] $25 per person for a meal here is really about par. [00:10:22] Yeah, it's not that much different here. Well, there you go. So I think diners may just come back again as a fast, inexpensive place. A little better than the fast food restaurants, but somewhere in between. They were saying that yesterday that the diners were on the decline for a while, but seem to be back in business again and becoming even more popular. And I love going out and eating because I can mix all kinds of horrendous things together and really enjoy it. Since I'm an escapee from the New Jersey State Asylum for the Gastronomically Insane, for the. For the Hospital for Terminally Poor Eaters or something like that. Just want to let, you know, update you on one thing. Yeah. My crazy cat, the one that won't come near me. Oh, yes. It ran out of the house tonight and I have no idea where it is. [00:11:23] So in the next hour, I have to hitch up the dogs and we have to go searching for the cat because the cat loves the dogs. But she doesn't trust me for some reason. She still doesn't trust you. I know that was the problem you mentioned at one time. And at least. At least probably somewhere between 150 to 200 of those old National Geographics got soaked when I had a problem with the roof because of the consistent freezing and ice and snow and everything that we were getting. And I had water coming down inside the wall. Oh, you had. You had ice. That was the. That's called ice dam. Ice dam, yeah, I had that. I had that same problem in places. I never had it before this year. I think that was a very common thing for a lot of people. So did I. And it damaged the water that came in. In one room on the floor. Damaged the books that were sitting on the floor. Oh, that's too bad. So take care, Norman. Fred, thanks. Always a pleasure to talk with you. Same here. Take care. Bye bye. [00:12:26] I'd like. I think I'd like some chicken soup. Bowl of hot chicken soup, please. That's one chicken soup. The guy yelling back to the short order cook, the guy said, wait a minute. I think maybe instead of that maybe could you change that? Like maybe I really feel like pea soup instead. [00:12:45] That's. That hold a chicken and make it pee. [00:12:50] That's one of the very old diner jokes. You're getting back to normal there. Earlier, much earlier in the evening, a tipped tractor trailer truck tipped over and caused the stretch of 1A to be closed down. We'll keep you updated on that situation. Again, should be back to normal shortly. We have got some work crews in the Mass pike, eastbound and Westbound by interchange 13 in the Framingham area. We've all also got a work crew on the Mass pike Westbound by Route 9 that'll be there. Both of those crews till about 5am I'm Jack Hart, WBZ, 24 Hour Traffic Network. [00:13:24] Now looking towards the situation on Route 1A in Revere about Butler Circle and North Shore Road. We have seen the tanker truck uprighted and they are pulling it out of the way. Should be completely cleared up and everything back to normal in the next few minutes. Currently all roadways are open. We're dealing with work crews eastbound and westbound on the Mass pike right now by interchange 13 in the Framingham Natick area and westbound by exit 9 by Route 9. Actually in Framingham. I'm Jack Hart, WBZ, 24 Hour Traffic Network. [00:13:56] Things finally all clear in Route 1A in Revere. This report brought to you by US Air Shuttle Route 1A in Revere at Butler Circle. An earlier situation with a tipped over tanker truck has been completely moved out of the way. All roads open. We have work crews right now. Mass bike westbound by Route 9. Also by interchange 13 eastbound and westbound. We got some more crews downtown. Activity in the Sumner and Callahan tunnels should cause you some short delays. Gary, we have a serious accident here at 95 northbound just before South Main street of the Sharon area. It involves an overture and car from the median strip causing a tie up in that section. This update's brought to you by the US Air Shuttle. A lot of tied up traffic here northbound on the expressway and along Route 3 northbound. Checking that out for us, here's Joe Green of the BC Copter. Joe, okay, so very much slow roll from Route 18 all the way up past Unity with some stop and go as you get into Unity. Also a breakdown on the right hand side of the breakdown lane there. Further up, stop and go begins by Furness Brook Parkway. Solid stop and go pretty much all the way up to the Columbia Road. You may loosen up a little bit. But more stop and go by East Berkeley Street. A breakdown immersed in that backup in East Stone Square. Up against the wall. May want to stay with the left hand side there. The traffic on Marshall Boulevard just light cycles. And the Hancock Street Bridge about halfway back. Still game for the BC Concurrent. Earlier collision on Route 2 eastbound on the Concord area is out of the way. Watch out for breakdowns. 128Northbound by university Avenue in Canton. Also a breakdown to be careful of my Highland Avenue in the Needham area. After that point it slowed from Route 16 to Route 20 once we get south of Route 93 right back into Linfield and downtown. We're plugged up on the major routes and the Alteney routes. Mass pike eastbound, very slow at 128 and tough going down to the Newton area. For Joe green in the BZ copter, I'm Joe Stapleton, WBC 24 Hour Traffic Network. [00:15:36] And it was still pretty good. You know what? Because I used to like it a lot and again I tried it recently and I thought, I don't know, more sweet and medicinal or something than I remember. But it's kind of hard. You're not quite sure that your taste buds are the same. Try the diet stuff. It's pretty close. I'm gonna try the diet stuff, Bob, because you said so. I'm gonna do that. Thank you, Norman. Thanks a lot for the call. Good night. Bye. Bye. Both the living man. [00:16:03] Yeah. But I don't want to tell them that. I don't want them to show empty beer bottles. No, no, they wouldn't do that. I think that's an interesting fact which they probably are interested in knowing about. I can't even remember when the. The American Indians used to scare the hell out of us kids. And they were down there at Columbia Point and down there in Carson beach and they were harvesting the mussels, you know, the black clams. [00:16:29] I don't know of anybody in Southeast who would eat them. Now you. You remember American Indians being there? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We scared the hell out of them. You're not making this up, Joe, are you? No, no, no, no. We thought they were dark, complected people, but then they were telling us they were rumpanoags. And then some come up from Pembroke. They were called Massa Secacooted. Horrible name. I've got it written down. And, oh, yeah, we had them up here, but they seem to disappear around 1950. 1952, they start filling and they build those projects, you know what I mean? And they filled it all in. So the Indians went elsewhere. They went down the Wampanoags, pretty much. Down on the Cape, are they not now? We had them around here. We had the different tribes, but they didn't live here. They came here to harvest black clams, the mussels. Oh, I see. That was their job. Yeah, we used to see them. But as far as that, tell anybody who's listening. On a hot day, try cold milk and moxie. Cold milk and moxie makes a swell, swell drink. Okay, I guess you just told them pretty good there, Joe. Okay, I see. God be with you. And this is the second call from hell. Okay, okay, right by. [00:17:52] He's my worst nightmare. There's another phrase that's being used an awful lot. [00:17:58] It was some promotional for some movie where a little kid says that I'm your worst nightmare. And there's a phrase that's been popping up. [00:18:05] We have a lot of very uncreative people in this world. So when somebody comes up with a. A phrase that's kind of interesting, like a phone call from hell or whatever, everybody starts using that after it becomes, why am I giving a speech? [00:18:22] Ronald Reagan, Kevin Costner, Jay Leno all started out doing traffic right here where you are. Hey. Something to look forward to. Oh, well, I think the future looks really great for you because you sound really good. You do. They were. They were not as good on the dumb birthday game as you are, though, either. I'm planning to win it again tonight. Okay. And Ted Williams very often would just drop by after his playing days were done. And he would. He did traffic just. He said it was something just to keep his eyes sharp and to do that. I don't know what I'm talking about. Why don't I just shut up and let you do the traffic? I never. What an idea. I never thought of that. [00:18:56] Of course, that was exciting to me because I played in all kind of cars and I love cars and I still do. But to see a Rolls Royce was a very unusual thing. And it was always the Rolls Royce that I saw. Oh, that's interesting. Maybe why he thought it was a truck chassis. Back in those days, Cadillacs and packets and Tsaros were such big cars, the wheelbase may run up as high as 157 inches or so. [00:19:25] When they got old, or maybe before they got old, the garages would convert them into wreckers. You know, they didn't have special built wreckers like they have now. They would take these big cars and make wreckers out of them. [00:19:41] Did your family put the cars in the wintertime? They took them off the road, put them up on blocks and take off the wheels. Did they do that too? Well, we didn't take off the wheels, but they put them up in blocks. In fact, a lot of times they weren't running the wintertime. But you know, sometimes we didn't have the money perhaps to register them. No, my father would register his car for April 1st. Usually that would be. That would signal springtime in our house, you know, hey, the cars and you know, then the crank and the little skinny. [00:20:16] What do you call them? When our fenders would start to vibrate and you'd smell the gas. What an exciting moment that was when you got. Cars were awful exciting. [00:20:24] I had my first cars was a 24 Studebaker or 24 Maxwell and a 24 Nash. I had those three cars all at the same time. No. Oh, I see. But they're all the same year. Yeah, but. Well, you could buy a car for $5 or $3. I had a gorgeous 27 Ford in the 30s. That was the last year they made the Model T Ford with the planetary transmission. And the first year they come up with Y of wheels. And I bought it for $7. [00:20:57] I paid $5 down. It took me two years to pay the other $2. How was that? [00:21:03] But I also wanted to say something about diners. If you ever get down to Central Square inland. It's kind of an experience, Norm. [00:21:12] I had occasion to Have a hat blocked. And I couldn't find anybody to do it until I called Henry the header. And he's 87 years old, right in the center of land, right under the railroad bridge there. And after I left his shop, and I had a wonderful time talking to him because he makes hats for Ted Williams and Tully Savalas and all those guys, you know, and he's still in business. Well, when I left there, I asked him, was there any restaurants right. Close by? So he says, yeah, the Capitol Diner right around the corner there. So I went into the Capitol Diner, and when you say 12.50 for steak, that's a lot of money to me, you know. [00:21:51] But you go in there and I would say maybe for three or four dollars, you could get a meal, a good meal, you know, and it's fun to see them operate. Oh, you wouldn't believe it. It's kind of funny now, you mentioned Henry the Hatter, who you wanted you to get a hat blocked. Yeah. See if that's kind of funny, because I haven't heard anybody talk in those terms for years, except in a Woody Allen movie he was kidding about. Just as a joke. [00:22:20] I don't know, some line about somebody getting their hat blocked, and he just threw that in as a joke. But you actually were in Lynn recently getting a hat blocked. Yes, and I called, and my brother lives in Belmont, see, and it was his hat, and he couldn't find anybody. Now, he's very familiar with all around Boston because he had a taxi business. He couldn't find anybody that could block a hat, so he brought it over and asked me. So I couldn't find anybody either. But finally I heard of Henry the Hatter, and I called him and, oh, what a wonderful guy to talk to. Yeah, but just before you tell me that, now explain to people who are listening, because a lot of people, I'm sure, have no idea what that means. What does it mean to block a hat? Well, it's a soft hat, and he has all kind of wooden moles that fit the different sizes, and he cleans them, and you have to put the hat on these moles. Maybe he can crank them bigger so I don't know, but so that they won't shrink, you know, each head is a certain size and each mold is a certain size, and he has thousands of caps. [00:23:32] Most recent one I bought, you call it a patch cap, I guess, instead of some of them that you buy nowadays. It has all those pie, like a piece of a pie, you know, you might have eight pieces on the top of it. Oh, yeah. And you can get different kinds, wool, you know, and he'll make up anything you want. You could bring a piece of tapestry down to him and they'd make a hat for you. That's great. But he's 87 years old, see. Somebody ought to be, Somebody must have done a story on him. I would think he'd make a great newspaper article or magazine article. It is so interesting to talk to him. And he's got Ted Williams pictures and Tully Savalas and some of the old time fighters and everything, and they're all people that he know and he's made hats for. Might be kind of fun for me to call him one day and ask if he'd be willing to talk with me, at least on the phone one night. Oh, and just talk about his career because he's in a profession that, well, you, you were talking about how hard it was to find anybody who did that. Yeah, he's probably one of the, he's the last of that whole thing. Well, I, I think he is. And I, I, I wonder what was going to happen if anything happens to him. And he's a fun guy to talk to, you know, and he'll, he'll take all kinds of time to talk to you. [00:24:47] I just couldn't get over it. I'll have to look him up. But we'll see if we can have a chance to talk to him on the phone if he stays up very late and one night soon. Because I think that'd be fun. Oh, I think everybody would enjoy it, you know. Hey, Norm, another thing, I don't want to keep it too long, but you know someone in town here that I know who is an old time movie man, you know, and I was talking to him recently and in talking to where I came from, Charlestown, Mr. Fell on Boston street, up on the hill there. Yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah. And in talking to him, he knew I come from Charlestown and everything and I used to go to the Thompson Square Theater when I could afford it, you know. So I said, gee, you know, I asked him some questions about the Thompson Square Theater, and that's when he told me that Mayor Costero Labross, and that's Rose Fitzgerald's father, gave Joe Kennedy the Thompson Square Theater for a wedding present. So that's how he got into the movie business, you know. I didn't know that. Yeah. Isn't that something? That's interesting. Yeah, and I found that out right here in Middleton from a Fellow that you know as well as I do. Yeah. Now, he was an interesting man because he worked in both in plays, but mostly in motion picture houses, setting up equipment and all of that. He's got some. Some great memorabilia at his house. And he's also. Also got a tape of a talk that he gave that sort of outlines kind of the history of movies in the Boston area, which was just. Just fascinating. He told me some interesting things about the Coconut Grove fire, too. I guess that used to be an old movie house, see. And some things as to how the fire could have started, you know. Well, I didn't know that wasn't. That was a movie house originally. Well, I think it was. I think he. I think he showed movie theater. Son of a. Son of a gun, Bob. I'll have to go back and fill in the gaps. [00:26:44] This guy's got a great memory. He can. He really remembers. Oh, he's just about everything. It's fascinating. Yeah. Got to take a week off, though, when you want to sit down and talk with him. He's awful interesting. He's been very sick lately, too. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. I think he fell and broke a hippo. Oh, my. Yeah, because he's a. He must. He's up in his 80s, is he not? He's about, I would say around 87 or 8. Right around there. Yeah. Same as Henry the Hatter. Yeah. Right. Okay. Gotta hang on to these old guys because they tell some fascinating stories. Well, I. I know a lot of people in Middleton the same way, you know, over the years. Oh, yeah, that's right. You know, like the Curtis brothers down there in the. Yeah. Arthur and Ernest Curtis. Yeah, Arthur the scholarly. Well, anyway, we're talking kind of local and. Yeah, a lot know who we're referring to when you're just talking to a farmer that has arrowheads that he's picked up in his pasture that are 10,000 years old, you know, that kind of makes you think a little. Oh, he was. He was a fascinating man. I loved Arthur. Norma and I went up to Rockport a few times with him or up to Essex and had clams and all that kind of little parties because we just liked him a lot. He was a nice man. Yeah. Anyway, Bob, I really appreciate hearing. Coming up to a 4:00 here at the WBZ and I'm sorry, I've been pressing too many buttons. We're going to hear a little tone in just a minute. Let's all. Let's all hum it together. Ready? [00:28:11] Excellent. Norm. Nathan. Here, WBZ Boston. We'll be around for the next hour. I'm sitting in for Bob Raleigh, who's just taking the day off. Probably never do this again. Promise. You can drink it hot, you can drink it cold. I got some right here. [00:28:26] I got a glass right in my hand right now. You can bring some moxie or whatever the hell that is or. Moxie with milk is very good. Yes. [00:28:34] Well, I was gonna say I have some bad news. Oh, you flunked out of school? No, no. And I won't get my. I won't get my money back on your tuition. Well, it's going up to 20,000. A hundred dollars next year. Oh, that is bad news. [00:28:50] Oh, that is. That is. That is something. Because I know that in addition to paying your full tuition, room and board and all that, I do give you rather a lavish amount of money. Just as kind of wild spending money. I mean, pretty clearly, if I'm sitting here at 3 o'clock in the morning listening to your birthday game, it must be quite a large amount of money. It is a large amount of money. And obviously you're not using it wisely. What do you. What right have you got with the tuitions like that to sit up here listening to a radio for? You should be doing homework or sleeping. So you can get up early and do something. Take a tour. Take a historical tour. Something. Well, I gotta tell you, they have this tradition on campus that we should have like a spontaneous tuition riot. [00:29:32] The next one is planned for April sometime. A spontaneous tuition riot? [00:29:38] You don't mean a protest? Just a riot. A riot. I mean, no one knows what to do. We just kind of spontaneously riot about tuition and. And I don't know, I mean, I. I guess we're supposed to just, you know, drink our Ovaltine that night and get up the next morning and riot. Which is. Yeah, you could do that. Or you could drink Ovaltine and take the glass and throw it against something. Exactly. Or just throw it while there's still Ovaltine in there. Well, you know, then you waste all the Ovaltine in. You know, I never thought of that. But one reason that I did call, if there had to be a reason, was all this talk about the diner food reminds me of. I mean, there's not too many places anymore that you can, you know, go show up at 4:00 in the morning and get something to eat. No, that's true. That is quite true. And because diners used to be open very, very late, some of them open 24 hours. I don't know that there's anything in Massachusetts anywhere in the whole state that's like that. Maybe there is somewhere. There's IHOP right down the street from you on Social Road. Oh, there's one open around the clock. Yeah, that one, I mean, just. Just down the block from you is open 24 hours. And that's a diner. It's IHOP. Oh, IHOP, right. Oh, that's true. That's a red. That's not a diner, but that's true. It's nice to know that it's open 24 and it's true. And that's one of the rare places that is open around the clock. And I can't think of anything else that is Dunkin Donuts is open around the clock. True. Yeah, I guess. I guess those are the only two things. So. But that's. I mean. And I don't know about you, but I like breakfast any time of the day, so. I do, too. I do. Absolutely. Absolutely do, too. So it's nice to be able to get that kind of. Get that kind of food, but, well, enough reminiscing, I guess. [00:31:23] You're only 12 years old. What do you have to reminisce about? Well, I remember the good old days, you know, the salad days. Nearly 80s, when in the late 80s, the mid-80s. I remember when I was just a kid when the streets were paved with gold and you'd walk up on the street and the guy just give you 50 bucks for the hell of it, you know, and you didn't have to worry about crime or anything. No, no. And you used to walk to school even though the snow was up to your eyebrows. Exactly. You could have Ovaltine hot or cold back then. [00:31:54] You go away. Hey, I'm glad to talk your rush. Well, here's goldbut in your eye. Okay. You're a wonderful person. Thanks a lot. Thank you. That's my friend Raj. He's over at mit. And this is Marty, who's over at South Boston. Hi, Marty. How you doing, Norm? I'm doing really swell. I'm surprised. I'm surprised you had to ask because you can just listen and you know, I'm doing really swell. Yeah, I hear you. I know you said before you don't want to get into it, but I just want to congratulate you with. You used Farrakhan and impulsive in the same sentence. I mean, I'm sorry, say that again. You said you used the word Louis Farrakhan and impulsive in the same sentence. I think that's I think that's how most of us feel. I'm sorry, I'd use Louis Farrakhan and what else? [00:32:38] Pardon me? Repulsive. Oh, repulsive, Yes. I think that's. I think it's, you know, that's exactly how most of us feel. Just no one really wants to step up and say that because no one wants to be labeled a racist. Well, I don't. You know, I don't. I don't really think we have to worry. I know I'm not a racist, so I really don't even. I'm not even concerned about that. I just think a lot of what he has said, I think is just a whole lot of. [00:33:02] I think it's horse manure. I. I just. It's crap. And I know there are a whole lot of. It seems to me the talks. Well, I wouldn't even. I want. I don't want to go right now. No, I just. I just. When he. When he castigates his. His assistant there or puts him on. What did he do with him? He put him a. Kind of a. Demoted him. Demote. He demoted him, but said he agreed with some of the things he said. This is after a guy ranted and raped and said some of the most outrageous, awful, awful kinds of things. But he. I don't agree with him, but they're. Although, I mean, he shouldn't have then done that. But there were some things I agreed with. That's a lot of crap. I mean, no. Who else would get away with that kind of nonsense? I just don't buy it. You don't think we have to take this guy seriously, huh? Oh, I take him seriously, huh? Because I think he's got a lot of power within his own race, which is awful. I think young blacks who listen to him and believe this is their savior, I think are really stupid and I'm making a terrible mistake. I just saw a couple nights ago Schindler's List, the movie. Oh, yes, I've seen that too. And I see this. Not that this would ever happen, because I know that's a bad analogy, but I think if he had the dictate of how it was, as Hitler did, I think he would not be like that, but he would have. [00:34:13] It wouldn't be too good, I don't think. Yeah, I think. I think what makes this country really special and the reason I really love this country a whole lot is we do have a constitution and all that kind of stuff. And of course, during the Nazi regime, the administration was behind all this ugliness and killing and the Holocaust, all that kind of business here. You know, we may have some racism and we may have some anti Semitism, we may have some anti Catholicism, Catholicism and all that, but it's not government sponsored and the government is just not in business to tolerate that kind of thing. So I think we have a country that's very, very special. And I'm, boy, when I think of all the countries you and I could have been born in, we're very lucky to have been born here. I don't mean to wave the flag or anything, but I, you know, because there are things wrong with the country that bother me too. But of all the countries in the world, I think we're, we're very lucky to be here. How about them, them apples? [00:35:12] And one more thing. Yes? I mean, I probably, I might sound like a race to someone, but about this problem about the, you know, the young, the teenage, the violence in the United States. Yes. I live in South Boston, which I consider a tough neighborhood. I mean it's mostly white, but you know, it's a tough neighborhood. Yes, I really don't see too much violence around here with the guns and stuff. I mean, I know it is definitely most a black problem, you know, but I mean, I really don't see it around here. And I mean, if I'm out of line, you tell me, but I really don't see it around here. It's like, you know, I hear all this stuff about the younger youth and I think it's more of a black problem. I don't want to sound like all the black people, but at the moment there's no question about the fact that there's, and there are some very serious problems in some of the black areas, but they're also up. I have a whole thing about guns. I, I again, I'm, Well, I'm going in the air a few minutes. Okay. But I, the, the people who own guns and talk about their constitutional right and what is the government and if, you know, only if we can't keep them away from criminals and law abiding people should be all this, this is a whole lot of nonsense. There's no question in my mind that there are too many guns that just, they just float around everywhere. And you get little kids, 10 year old, 12 year old, 15 year olds who go shooting at each other of whatever color and that gets, I mean, that's craziness. There's no, there's no need of that. You're right. So I say, boy, I would, I would be Very restrictive on who I gave guns to. If you want to hunt, okay. With the rifles and the whole business, at least you can't conceal those. You know, if you got a rifle that it's kind of hard to stick in your pocket and not have anybody notice it. I know that kind of stuff. But guns, I mean, do we really need that many guns? I mean, come on, is this target practice Sunday morning at some gun range? Is that worth it to have guns floating around so anybody can get them? Most crimes. I'm there. I'm sorry to make a speech. Yeah. Most crimes are committed not by the criminal element or the kind of element we think of as the heavy criminalists. It's husbands shooting their wives, wives shooting their husbands, kids shooting each other. And if there no guns around, there would not be that. Anyway, I gotta get going. [00:37:27] I'm sorry I yelled at you, Marty. That's okay. Thank you. Okay, take care. Bye. Bye. I didn't mean to get into that. That whole business. I'll be back in one minute. But first, if you get nauseous because you're traveling anywhere, boy, maybe this whole commercial will make you even more nauseous in about a minute and 15 seconds. I'm sorry. Sorry, I don't have much time to talk. Are you on tomorrow night? Yes, I am. From 11 to 12 tomorrow night. All right, I'll call you. [00:37:55] And then again from 1am until 5am so I'll be on it throughout the night. All right. Just one question. Do you know where I can buy Jimmy Durante's record of September Song? Oh, that's a lovely record. Yes, I haven't been able to find it. [00:38:11] Really. Have you? The best look up phonograph records in the Yellow Pages. Why? Try Strawberries. And that's, you know, make a few phone calls around your area and see if there isn't somebody who can maybe order a Jimmy Durante album or something that might have that in it. Offhand, I don't know. All right. I don't even remember what the label was otherwise. You could check with the record company. I'd like to have it. Yeah, that's a. It's a great song. And when he does it, it's so poignant and beautiful. It is. All right, I'll talk to you this weekend. Oh, okay. I hope you will. I'll be looking for. Your call, Charlene. All right. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Good morning. Okay, it is time to say goodbye. On behalf of our producer, Emilio Morata. On behalf of the lovely Marilyn Gorelnick and On behalf of myself, the almost good looking Norm Nathan person. I missed it again. I would have been good looking except for maybe this. Just missed it. Anyway, we'll see you tonight at 11 and be with you through the night. Bye. Bye. Old sport from wbz. Henry. Excuse me, Henry. Henry is right. A hotel. [00:39:17] Okay. A tool. Hammer. Hammer. He's got it. Okay. Very good, very good. I haven't had a chance to use the buzzer. Hardly at all. Thank you very much. I'm just so disappointed. We kind of thought everybody'd be relaxing tonight, huh, Norm? They're. They're firing these answers away. They're really very, very sharp. That's right. And congratulations to you, Artie. Okay, thank you. Okay, we'll finish. This is a young boy, I guess, named Gerard, who is 14, from Canton. Hi, Gerard. Hi. Hi, Gerard. Hey. Okay, let me tell you what we've got left. We've got an I left. We've got an O left. We've got a V left. Which would you like? [00:39:55] The O all ready. [00:39:58] Okay, let's go. As of now, a color. [00:40:04] Paul. Okay. Something found in the sky. [00:40:09] A candy bar. [00:40:14] Okay. A famous actor. [00:40:21] Pass. Okay, how about a flavor of juice? Orange juice. Very good. Orange juice. How about a unit of measurement? [00:40:29] Okay. A TV show. [00:40:34] Pass. Okay, how about a word ending in E? Starts with O, ends in E. [00:40:46] I'm very sorry. Gerard. Is it Gerard or Gerard? Jared. Oh, it's Jerry. Jared. Jared. Oh, Jared. Jared. That's an interesting name. Okay, thank you very much for calling, Jared. I'm sorry that you didn't win, but I hope you have a great vacation. Yeah. Take care. Okay. It's a. It's about a minute and a half before 1:00, so it's kind. I kind of. [00:41:13] No, it's kind of tight to have any more contestants. So we'll hold it till after the news and then maybe we can go to. Since we seem to be out of a whole lot of letters, maybe we go to one of the other games. That sound okay, Jeff? Sounds great. Maybe we can try some Carmen Sandiego. [00:41:28] So that'll be some geography stuff. Exactly. That sounds good. So pull out your atlases and join us after the news. Okay. [00:41:36] You sound like you were a broadcaster yourself. Were you? No. Frustrated broadcaster. [00:41:43] That's kind of interesting because I am a frustrated game inventor and toy expert. Maybe we should swap places for half the year. What do you think? That sounds pretty good. I've always wanted to live in California for a while. And I don't know how you Feel about living in Massachusetts, but think about it and I'll get back to you. All righty. Okay, Jeff Pinsker is our guest and we'll take a break from the news and then be right back after that. The caller has 20 seconds to correctly answer two of those. Okay. If they know the answer, they just go ahead and blurt it right out. If they don't, I have multiple choice options for them. Okay. Once we've gone through that, if they've gotten two rights, they then have to put together the clues in those questions and answers to try and figure out what it is that Carmen and her gang stole. Okay, and how much time do they have for that part? Well, we're gonna give them 10 extra seconds for that. 10 extra seconds. Okay. So if they, if they miss anywhere along the line. Son of a gun. Look. What? I still have it. Oh, there's that buzzer. So, so we get that. We still get the buzzer card. [00:42:44] Maybe you can build a toy around the buzzer because us kids like to play with that a lot. Okay, let's go. And it sounds like grown ups like to play with a tune orm. Okay. That's right. Lisa in Somerville. Hi, Lisa. I wanted the letter V. Oh, did you, did you what? Did you figure out a whole bunch of stuff that began with Z? No, I figured like, I want to be out of the ordinary, so I had to pick a letter that nobody picked. Well, you're going to be out of the ordinary because you're going to be the first one to play our Carmen San Diego game. That's what I was afraid of. Go ahead. Yeah, you sort of clarify the rules in a sense for other people who are going to call afterwards and find everybody else who follows. That's right. [00:43:25] Okay, so here's how it works. I'm going to read you a question. If you know the answer, go ahead and shout it out. If not, ask me for the multiple choice options. Okay. Got three questions here. You got to get two of them, right? And then after that, you have to figure out what it is that Carmen and her gang stole. Okay. Okay, Lisa, you ready to go? I hope so. Okay. And I'll count out 20 seconds. Are you ready with that buzzer from right now? Okay. Okay. What city within the continental United States is not part of a state? [00:43:57] Washington D.C. washington D.C. very good. Besides Virginia, what US state gave land to form Washington D.C. [00:44:05] maryland. Maryland. Very good. So she did that within 20 seconds, knowing that this, this, this center is on Washington D.C. what do you think is the landmark that Carmen and her gang stole the White House. The White House is wrong. I have the Washington Monument. [00:44:21] Good try, though, Lisa. I've never been there, so White House was a great guest. Yeah. Thanks a lot for initiating the whole game tonight, Lisa. Okay, thanks. Have a good week. Bye. Bye. Bye now. Okay, let's go to Bridget. Bridget is up in Ontario. Where in Ontario are you, Bridget? Timmins, Ontario. I'm sorry, what's the name of that? Timmins. Timmins, Ontario. Okay. I say okay, like I know where it is. Good, Norm. I'm glad you know where. That one. Okay. And this is. This is Jeff. Jeff Pinsker's with us. Yes. But you knew that anyway, didn't you? Yes. Okay. Okay. We're gonna give you one. I'll just tell you that's outside of the United States just to even things out a little bit. Okay? Okay. Alrighty. 20 seconds. Once again. If you know the answer, call it out. If not, I'll give you the multiple choice. Okay. And you, if you. If you miss it, let's go to the next question. You got to get two out of three. Right. Okay, sounds good. Alrighty. Norm, 20 seconds, please. Right. Oh. As of right now, when Carmen Sandiego attends one of Henry VIII six weddings, in what country can you find her? England. England. Very good. When Carmen Sandiego eats a spoonful of sugar with Mary Poppins, in what city can you find her? [00:45:38] Can I get the clues? Liverpool, Sydney or London? London. London is correct. Okay. You made it within. Made it within the allotted time. Right. So we've got Henry VIII's six weddings which took place in England. Got Carmen Sandiego eating a spoonful of sugar with Mary Poppins in London. What landmark do you think they stole? [00:45:58] The London Bridge. London Bridge is wrong. Big Ben is what they took. There's that buzzer. [00:46:05] I just thought I'd play with it one more time. [00:46:08] What? I'm sorry. What did they take? Big Ben was what they took this time around. Oh, yeah. That must have been tough getting into the station wagon. [00:46:16] Okay. Thanks, Bridget, for playing the game with us. Appreciate that. Okay, thanks. Have a good week, too. Bye. Bye. Okay, let's see. We'll go to Bob, who's out in the city of Fitchburg, Massachusetts. Hi, Bob. How you doing, Norm? Hey, Bob. How you doing, Jeff? Hi, Bob. You okay? You have an interesting voice. Yeah, Like a foghorn with laryngitis. And I've got a cold on top of it. Oh, I'm sorry. [00:46:40] Okay. We're glad to have you with us anyway. Hope You've saved a little bit of juice for us here. Okay? [00:46:45] We just need to squeeze a little bit more out of that voice for these next questions, okay? Yeah. All righty. Okay. Okay, we can go as of now. All right. Ship sailing from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean can sail around Africa or through what canal? Suez. Suez. Very good. When Carmen spends the night in Cairo, the city in Africa with the largest population, what country is she visiting? Egypt. Egypt. Very good. He just rattled those right off. Yeah, right within the 20 seconds. So we've got the Suez Canal. We've got Carmen San Diego spotted in Cairo in Egypt. What do you think she stole? Pyramids. Pyramids is correct. Very good. We have our first. [00:47:25] Our second winner on this. In this category. 8. No, the first winner. Very first one. Yeah. Hey, Bob, good. Hold on. And here's John Kelly to take care of the information from you. Congratulations. All right. Thanks. Okay, we'll go to Dorothy in Randolph. Hi, Dorothy. Hi. Hi, Dorothy. Hi. How are you? Fine, thank you. And you? Very well. Your voice sounds a lot better than Bob's does. Thank you. Okay, now if I can answer the question, we will find out. [00:47:52] Norm, I'm all ready when you are. Okay, we're set. As of go. If Carmen Sandiego stole the New York Stock Exchange, from which street would it be missing? Wall. Wall Street. Very good. If you had headquarters is missing, from what city was it taken? New York. New York. Those are much too easy. Yeah. Very good. Here's your big chance. Okay. UN Headquarters in New York. Walt. New York Stock Exchange on Wall street, what did they steal? Money? No, they don't steal money now. They only steal things of geographic or geologic significance. [00:48:22] What landmark did they steal from New York City? [00:48:25] I don't know. Pick one. Give it a shot. [00:48:35] Oh, Norm, what do you think? What do they steal? I don't know. I don't really know. I was hoping you wouldn't ask me. I just sit here with my buzzer, you know. I don't know anything. What would they steal from those two landmarks? Wall Street. [00:48:49] The Statue of Liberty was what they took. Oh, yeah. Or they could have taken the Empire State Building. Empire State Building would have been the other answer. That's right. Okay. Hey, thank you very much for calling. Thank you. Okay, let's see. That was Dorothy. This is. [00:49:06] We go back up to Ontario and. Louise. How you doing, Louise? Hi. We must be coming very strong up to Ontario. Are you anywhere near Timmins? No, no, I'm. I'm near Kingston. Oh, Kingston. We had a. We had A caller from Kingston just a while ago. That's a coincidence. Was that somebody in your house? No. No. Okay. I thought you were being facetious. Okay, you're set to play with Jeff. Pardon the expression. You're set to play with Jeff Pinsker. Then it's okay with me if it's okay with you, Louise. Okay. Okay, we'll leave the expression as it is then. Norm. Ready? Okay, we'll start the 30 seconds as of right now. The Tasmanian Devil is a cartoon character based upon a real animal from Tasmania, an island south of which continent? Australia. Australia. Carmen Sandiego likes to throw prawns on the Barbie with her Australian friends in Australia. What is a Barbie? A barbecue. A barbecue grill. Very good. Excellent. She got those two answers. Now for the big one. They've stolen a landmark from Australia. What do you think it is? Ayers Rock. Ayers Rock is a great guess, but that's not right. Oh, no. The Great Barrier Reef is what's missing from us. [00:50:21] Oh, thanks. Thanks a lot for trying, Louise. Thanks for playing, Louise. Thanks. Bye. Bye now. Okay, let's go to Steve, who's in his automobile somewhere. Where are you? Milwaukee. Are you in Milwaukee? Yeah. No kidding? No kidding. Then you can hear us in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, loud and clear. Beautiful. Beautiful. Hey, thanks for calling all the way. It cost you a ton. I hope you win. All right, here's Jeff Pinsker. Okay, Steve, once again, you've got three shots at it. You got to get two questions right. You don't know the answer. Ask for the multiple choice options. Okay? Okay. All right. And then you've got to figure out from those questions and answers what landmark was stolen. Okay, 20 seconds. Okay, 20 seconds. As of now, in what country was Irving Berlin, the writer of God Bless America born? [00:51:09] I'll go for multiple choice. Okay. Was it Poland, Russia or Germany? Russia. Russia is correct. When Carmen Sandiego travels across Russia, how many time zones does she cross? [00:51:21] Seven. Seven is wrong. Let's go to the third question. The largest caliber cannon ever made, which was never fired. Oh, sir, there was. That was. That was the. 20 seconds. Okay. Yeah, I'm. I'm sorry, but thanks. I'm delighted. You. You're not from New England originally, are you? [00:51:44] You're on BZ 103. [00:51:50] Oh, please don't turn that dial. [00:51:57] He makes me smile. Oh. [00:52:04] Oh, yes. [00:52:06] Yeah. [00:52:21] If you enjoy serious programming, we do that after five. I thought I'd get all the silliness out of my soul right now. [00:52:30] Wait a minute. It's not about anything. No, it's not. That's what I was gonna say. It has no purpose, it has no meaning, it's nothing. It's just a rambling bit of silliness. So that gave me the freedom to call in. Okay, I'm glad it did. Okay, great. I've been dealing with a creative bout of insomnia as of late. Up doing some drawing tonight and just some thinking and I got a little story for you I thought you might find interesting. Good. Are you an artist? I am. What kind of artwork do you do? Well, I went to school, I studied painting, and for the past five years I've been working, doing caricatures. Really? For whom? Down in Quincy Market. Oh, camera can choose the people going by, you mean? Well, we have a car down there and we're set up and we draw people as they come by. Right down at the end there. Oh, is business pretty good at that? It's very good. It's good in the summer. We're closed in the winter, obviously, because it's outdoors, but in the summer it's wonderful. Oh, great. I really, you, you must be. You're a very creative, interesting person. That sounds great. I mean, most people think, you know, would love to be able to do what you do. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah. You know, it's just a gift, you know, it's a natural ability, whatever, and you develop it and see where it takes you. Most of the people who do you deal with are they tourists or you do a lot of local people? Mostly tourists. Yeah. Yeah. But it's really, it's a good job, it's a good place to work. Great. Now you had a story for us. I did, I did. This is a little Zen story and it's got some wisdom to it, which is. But it's kind of light hearted as well. Good. Okay. It seems that there's a tradition in Zen monasteries that when a visitor comes and wants to spend time in the monastery, that there's a tradition that he needs to enter a discussion with one of the monks there. [00:54:07] And upon winning, he has the right to stay in the monastery. So there are two brother monks, and one of them is very wise, and one of them is rather not so wise. And this not so wise brother also happens to only have one eye. Okay. So a visitor shows up the monastery and decides that he wants to stay. And the wiser brother says, the not so wise brother, I'm too tired to argue with this man. You go and have a conversation with him. And he said, but I know that you're not so smart. So insist that the dialogue be in silence. [00:54:42] So the younger brother says, okay, I'll do that. And he goes and he sits down with the man. And they sit down in silence. And the younger brother is sitting there. And the visitor holds up one finger, and the not so wise monk holds up two fingers. And the visitor holds up three fingers. And the monk raises his fist in the air and shakes it at him. And the man gets up and leaves. And the man goes up to the wiser monk and says, you know, your brother is a great, wise, wise monk. I sat down and I held up one finger representative representing the Buddha. And he held up two fingers representing the Buddha and the self. And I held up three fingers representing the Buddha, the self, and the world. And he held up his fist saying, that power crushes all of those things. So I've been defeated, and now I will leave. So the brother comes up to his monk, you know, the not so wise brother, and says, I don't know what happened. That man was so rude. I sat down and. And he held up a finger pointing out that I only have one eye. So I held up two fingers pointing out, congratulating him that he has two eyes. And he held up three fingers saying that between us, we only have three eyes. So I shook my fist at him and told him I was going to beat him up. And he left. [00:55:56] That is the silliest story, you know, wisdom to it, you know, I know. I know it. I know it. No, I know it. I just trying to make sport, and I was doing very badly at that. I appreciate that very, very much. You think about that. I appreciate the call. And this is the first time you've ever called a radio station. First time. I hope. I hope that you found this so pleasant. Oh, it is. That you will say, I. I've got to do this more often. By God, that guy is. It was fun. Hey, thank you very much, and good wishes to you. Take care. Okay, you too, Ed. Okay, we're gonna talk to one of my friends, my friend Kristen, in just a minute. But first. [00:56:33] I'm okay. How are you? I'm just fine, thank you. That's good. Now, tell me what's happening. Brief me on all the things that have happened to you over the past, say, couple of months. [00:56:44] Oh, well, let's see, let's see. Beginning with let's see. We're now into March 14, so start with January 14 and just fill me an hour by hour. [00:56:57] I can't remember a thing. Everything's a Blank. I think people listening are breathing a sigh of relief over that. I said, why is he asking her that? What is it? Some kind of crazy. What is that? The most memorable thing I did was send in my entry for the egg contest. Oh yeah. And the. I lost. Oh, what day did you pick? March 8th. Yeah. No, they had, they hadn't laid the eggs as of yesterday. I'm so disappointed. I know it. You could have had a hard boiled egg with the, with my signature on it and Tony Nesbitt's signature. I had a place on my stamp, my bureau for it. [00:57:37] I know it would have been a treasured kind of thing to have. This is a, this is a contest that I might mention for people who haven't heard us talk about this before. I was talking about, we were talking about the, the signs of spring since we're all looking forward to that time of year. And there are a number of them. One of the peepers which I record each year but that's. That doesn't come till the end of this month which is not that far off. Couple of weeks we should start hearing those little peepers mating and stuff. In other words, the, we mentioned the skunk cabbage coming up. I didn't mention red winged blackbirds. When they appear, that's a sign of spring. And also when my hands start laying eggs because they have to have a certain amount of light and heat and I don't light or heat the chicken coop so it has to be a natural light and that's why it's. They're a little slow. And I, we asked for people to send in what the date they thought that the, the first eggs would be laid and got a lot of responses. It was kind of fun because who wants a hard boiled egg that I want to send them through the mail. It's a stupid prize but a kind of a funny contest I thought. Anyway, the, I checked the, the coop yesterday Sunday and they hadn't laid the eggs as of that day. So anybody who's gone through after March 13, which was Sunday. Yeah. Picked any day from that point back, I'm afraid is kind of out of luck, but. Oh, phooey. Well, you can send in another card. We're still accepting. We can mail them to me. Norm Nathan, WBZ Boston 021. [00:59:12] What's that? 341-230-2134. That's right. I keep forgetting that. Yeah. And I'll keep checking. Maybe today will be the day so ever picked today may be the winner. Well, this weather has been so Crazy. The chickens are probably confused, I would think the eggs hasn't been that really. It's been starting to warm up now and the days are getting longer. So I would expect we'll start getting eggs very, very soon. Maybe within the next day or two, I don't know. But I'll keep checking. Also on my little entry, Todd, I sent and I wrote that I got some old time radio cassettes through a catalog and I had them send you one. Yes. And I thank you. Adventures in Cassettes and Cassettes. Yes. So you got it. I'm happy. Yes, I did get it. I'm very pleased. Have you ever dealt with that company before? Did you know her? Ever hear of them? I had heard of them. No, had never dealt with them before. But they have some nice stuff on there. Yes, I like them a lot. I depend on them. You're okay. For a young person digging up stuff that was on radio long before you were born is. You have obviously an increasing, a tremendously sharp mind. Oh, thank you. Yes, I love them. Okay. And where I can't find them in any stores. This company helps me out a lot. Yeah, they used to be available in some bookstores, but I don't know, I haven't checked bookstores lately, so I don't know whether they're still there or not. Did you notice on the address on their address there on 5353 Nathan Lane? Oh, that's right. N A T H A N. Same as my name. [01:00:49] Well, isn't that a coincidence? Everett, that's incredible. I'm getting all goose pimply. I'm starting to sweat myself. Kristen. Hey, I gotta do some news coming up in a little bit. Okay. But I, I, it's always a pleasure to talk with you. You're a good person. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Norm and I hope to play the birthday game soon. Oh, that'd be next weekend. Do call, you know, when we first come on the air. Yes, and that'd be great. Love to have you with us. Okay. I can't wait. Okay, Kristen, thanks a million. Okay, bye. Bye. Bye. [01:01:20] If I may, is that. Oh, ground. By all means, go. I don't know whether my brain is too fertile, but. Well, I'll certainly give it a try. Okay. His name is Rob Andrews. A N D R U S. Do you know him at all? Boy, that doesn't, that doesn't have any familiarity to me at all. [01:01:41] Walter Andrews with, with an A N D R U S. Yeah. My sister who lives in Knoxville Called me today and she had taped the special on Tommy Dorsey that's on the educational tv. Oh, yes. And, and she said, I'm going to play a little bit of this tape. You tell me who this is singing. So I listened for a few seconds and I said to myself, it sounds just like Frank Sinatra, so it can't be because she wouldn't be asking me. So I said, well, I have no idea. Who is that? And she says it's a fellow by the name of Walt Andrews and he sings with Tommy Dorsey's new band, you know. Oh, he'd be, oh, see, he'd be a young guy then. No, he isn't. He used to sing with Tommy Dorsey before Sinatra did. Do you believe that? Really? No, I, I, you know, I don't remember it before, Before Sinatra. Before Sinatra saying this is what they said on the tape. Well, he must be about a thousand years old. It has to be. I said to my sister, he has to be in his 70s. Well, Sinatra's 78. Yes. And you say this guy sang with. Is she getting the fats right, do you think? I don't know. I've got to watch that Tommy Dorsey special when it's runs on our channel too. Okay. She said, oh, she said he was singing on that special on public, Public television. Yeah, yeah. No, I, I, I never heard of the man, the guy before. The only here are the people I remember with the, with the Tommy Dorsey band. [01:03:16] There was a guy named Jack Leonard. Yes, I remember that. Remember him? And Sinatra, I think, followed him. And of course there was Connie Haynes and the Pied Pipers and Joe Stafford eventually, and Gilbert Joe. Yeah. And then Dick Haymes took over from Sinatra's. Matter of fact, there's one album in a recording of that when Sinatra introduces Dick Haymes as taking his place. When Sinatra decided to go out on his own at that point. But I, Walter. And unless he sang with him for about four minutes at one point, I have no idea. [01:03:52] And Sinatra joined him actually in joins Tommy Durston around 1940. Yes. Early. Yes. So we're talking over 50 years ago. This Andrews must be. 150. He has to be at least. Sounds just like Sinatra. No kidding. I couldn't believe it when I heard it. Well, I just thought you might. I had to laugh at my sister. I said, I never heard this man's name before. She said, neither did I. She says, how we can, how can we find out more about him? And then she says, call your friend Norm. Oh, that's nice. You know What I. What I think is that if he's singing with a band now. Yeah. I would suspect that she may have it mixed up that he was. He didn't sing with some. With the Tommy Dorsey before Sinatra. But I say. But as a young, younger person who just, you know, they're all young people who join the band now, you know, can't. He couldn't have sung before Sinatra. Couldn't have been. No. This must be some young new singer who sings in that style. Because the musicians in the band are all young too, and they play in that style. Yeah. I would suspect it's a new person that we probably don't know because we probably never heard him before. That could well be. I will pass that message on to her. Well, that's my guess. And maybe somebody else. But it came from the guru. It came from where? The band guru. The male vocalist guru. Oh, I see. Oh, that's me. I see. Okay. Maybe somebody else knows better. Maybe they know the whole history of this thing. Maybe they have seen it on. On public television here and they may. They may have gotten a whole different story. If they do, I hope they'll call and maybe between now and five we'll find out. Yes, that would be good. You're okay, Peggy? Fine, thank you. So are you. Thanks for calling. Talking to you. Thank you. [01:05:40] Okay, how about we go to. Let's see, let's. Let's take. Just take a quick break and then. [01:05:47] Fine. I'm calling you about Walt. Answer. His name is A N D S U R. Oh, A N T S U R. A N T s U R. Ansur. Right. And he's young. He's about in his 30s, I would say, and I happen to see them. And he opens the Portsmouth about five years ago. Oh, you saw him in Portsmouth? Yeah, with the Buddy Maro Orchestra. They did a benefit for Berwick Academy. Oh, really? And I couldn't believe this fellow. I. He does. He sounds just like Sinatra. Isn't that wild? Only Buddy Marlow says he's better. [01:06:27] Yeah, now that's. I thought he must be a young guy because he talked to him that night and he. From Bridgeport, Connecticut, I think. Oh, yeah, and he is. He's fabulous. I watched the, you know, broadcast the other night too. But you know who was on there who sang with Tommy Darcy years ago? Lynn Roberts. Oh, I remember her. Well, she was on with him and she was fabulous. [01:06:55] The show was really fabulous. I watched the two night. I wonder if that's going to be on again. Well, it was on channel 11 here. Oh, yeah. And it was on Friday night from, I'm trying to think, 9 to 11. And then it was on Saturday night, 8 to 10. And it was so good, I watched it both nights. And like Ray Anthony, Dax Severinson. [01:07:24] Gotta think. Who else, you know, talked about Tommy Dorsey? No kidding. And Walt. And Walt. Answer. Who's leading the Tommy Dorsey band? Oh, Bonnie, you just said that. I'm sorry. My God. God bless him, that's his wife. [01:07:42] You know, I'm so glad these older fellows are still carrying on the music, if you know what I mean. And Doc S everinson, who's always been one of the great trumpeters players, has been as he's been playing for a lot of years. Well, he didn't play. He doesn't play with Buddy Marrow. He just some talk about Tommy Darcy. Oh, I see. He showed film clips of Tommy Darcy and what it was like, you know, home movies of Tommy Darcy. Oh, yeah. With, you know, his family and Jimmy and the mother and father. It was really a good show. As I say, why it twice? It was so good. Okay, so now I know all about Walter. Answer, answer. A N T S U R. A N D. Oh, I'm sorry. A N D. You kept saying that. A N D S U R. Yeah, is fabulous. The night I saw him at Yelkins, you know, I was sitting and I heard him sing and I said to the fellow who owns Yocums, Kevin, you know, I said, my God, that sounds like somebody lip syncing Sinatra. Isn't that funny? That's funny. He is so good. I really think he has a stronger voice than Sinatra. [01:08:56] The only unfortunate thing is he's a young guy. [01:09:00] I don't know what future there is in a young guy sounding like Sinatra. No. And as I say, it's like, you know what? It's really, you know, because that night I said to him, has Frank Sinatra ever heard you? You know, he sat down and talked to me and he said no. And I was going to see Tony Bennett the next night at the Hampton Peak Casino, you know. Yeah, yeah. What did you think of Tony Bennett? Oh, fabulous. I've been a fan of his for a very long time. It's kind of nice. He's more popular now than he's ever been. Well, do you know, he. He is fabulous. I mean, he. He's right on time. You know what I mean? He comes out at night, he does his show. You know how some of the entertainers, you wait and wait for them to come on. He's a Pro. Yeah, the old style performers. I think not the old style, but the old guys are real show biz people. And they come out when they're supposed to and. And they. Anyway, one of the great charms about both Sinatra and Tony Bennett and I assume Walter and Sewer as well as they sing these beautiful songs like they're living that moment, like they're telling you a story. You know, they're really storytellers. Yeah. And I think that's so beautiful to watch. And I stay pick choice material. Really good stuff. Well, if you get a chance to see this, I'm waiting for it to come on channel two too, you know, because I've seen it on 11. But if you do get a chance to see it, watch it because Lynn Robinson still fabulous. I will watch that. Where do you do you live in. In Portsmouth. I live in Northampton. Oh, right. Close by then. Close by. I read your daughter's call. Oh, why did I have to squeeze that out of you? You know, I do, I do. Thank you. Thank you very much. I get a kick out of you saying that. No, I do. I love your car. She's a good writer, actually. She really is. I had dinner with her, with her and her sister last night. So we keep in touch. So we're very close. I used to read when she read. Wrote for the other paper. And now she's with the Portsmouth. Yeah, the Portsmouth Press. She. She left that before she knew that they were gonna. And then they went out of the. Yeah, they went out of business. Yeah. Yeah. That's two hours. Hate to see. No, I'm following her career. You're okay. Thanks. Thanks a million. Okay. Thanks for the information. I really appreciate it. Okay, bye bye, dear. Isn't that nice, son? We know about Walter. Walter, answer. Remember last week, last Sunday night when Sinatra collapsed and was taken to a hospital by ambulance appearing down in Richmond, Virginia? I said, was there anybody at the concert down. Who's in the. In Virginia who can call me and tell me what. Give me kind of an eyewitness account of what happened? I thought there's a. There's one chance of a billion that anybody would have been at that concert down in Richmond? We do have. We do have an audience down in Virginia. We do get calls from that. But nonetheless, there were what, 3,700 people at the concert? What chance is there of one of them having. Listening to a station way up in Boston? And son of a gun, a guy called and gave us a whole description of Sinatra concert when he collapsed. The whole business. And so that's something. And here we get. We want to know who's this Walter? Well, we came a different name, turned out to be Walter Ansoor. And then we get that nice lady, Natalie, who. Who's who knows all about him. I bet you Fred knows all about him too. Fred's up at Yarmouth, Maine. And you are our big band specialist. I know you know all this stuff. I saw it. They had it on all three of the public stations up here at different times and it was unruined because it was, you know, fundraising week. So you get 15 minutes of the show and then you get begging. Yeah, begging. And it gets very tiresome. I know I taped it and then because of that I wiped it out again. [01:12:58] Anyway, you know, the. [01:13:01] The best thing that they played the whole time was Skylark, which is a great metal melody. Oh, yeah, yeah. And Buddy Morrow did. I mean, Mo Zudikov. Pardon me? That's his real name, you know. Oh, that's true. Yeah. I knew it sounded familiar when you said it. Yeah, that's right. Moseudikov, you know, in the 36, 37, 38 period where this Song of India and all that stuff when Berrigan was the lead trumpet, you remember? Yes. [01:13:29] And Buddy Rich, was he playing Trump drums at that time? Well, it was Dave Topp at that time. Oh, he was a specialist later on. Yeah, Dave Tough was the cymbal specialist. And didn't Dave Tough also play with. With the Woody Herman band? Well, later he played with Goodman for a while too. Yeah. And then he moved around. [01:13:49] What was I going to say? Anyway, it was a pretty good show. Shirley Jones was the mc. [01:13:56] That's kind of interesting because you don't identify here associated with that kind of music. She sort of led the thing. Led the sort of nostalgia thing. Yeah. And when you were mentioning pre. Earlier singers, you've left one out. Edith Wright. That's right, I did leave out. [01:14:14] That's right. And she sang the Music Goes Round and Round. That's right. With Tommy Dorsey and the Clam Bake Seven. Yeah, yeah, I recall. The band within the band. That's right. I forgot. Remember I got that on one of your trivia shows one night, the Bobcats. The. [01:14:30] I forget what the Chick Web inside Band was. I. I don't remember that at all. He had a little group within. Yeah, I don't remember that one. Any rate, it was a. It was a good show and it was, as I say, it was fundraising week. And so they followed with the. With that Benny Goodman Nostalgia 1. Have you seen that? 1 the Life of Benny Goodman. Yes, I. Daughter talking in the. Yes, I have. I thought that was fascinating. I. I taped that, but I decided, you know, that's not the kind of thing. And I want to keep my video library. What I have been doing. Norman, you may be interested in this. You know, out in Davenport, Iowa, they have a Bix festival. [01:15:10] No, I know. He's from there. Well, they run it. A whole bunch of little Dixieland groups, and they used to have. I guess they do it during the summer in a weekly show outdoors along the bank banks of the river with a lot of. A lot of people sitting around in deck chairs and stuff like that. Like, Newport sounds great. And my station up here in Channel 10, which is CBB, which is, you know, Colby Bates and. And Bowdoin public station, has been running them around midnight. So I put my VCR on, and I've got about eight or 10 of them, one after the other. Great. All in one tape. And then they ran that Life of Benny Carter one time. You ever seen that tape? No, I have not. That's a great show, too, guys. 80 something, still playing great. I know, and I've always loved the way he played. Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's about all. But I just wanted to tell you the best thing that Mo played was a beautiful trombone solo on Skylark, which is one of the great melodies of all time. That was. That was a big Harry James song, if I remember. Yeah. Hey, thanks a lot, Fred. I appreciate. Always a pleasure to talk with you. When are you going to run that quiz show again? [01:16:23] We've been talking about that. I think we ought to do that probably in the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I'd love to do that with you. Okay, it's a deal. I love to skin you on that. You. You always win. Every damn time, you know, and. Because I. I kind of like to think I know what I'm talking about, but you're so far superior. No way. No, no. There's no question. Well, we have a gang that meets up here now, sort of in memory of Peter Jamerson, who went with reward last summer. And Tomorrow is our four weekly luncheon. And we have 15 guys now that come from as far away as Bath and so forth. Yeah. And we sort of nostalgia and trivia and lie about who played with who. That's really. That's a lot of fun. That's great. Take care, Norman. You two take care, Fred. Bye, bye. Bye, bye. Okay, we'll take some more calls in just a bit. If you suffer from motion Sickness. Listen to Mona Johnson that apparently this Tommy Dorsey thing will be on public television. She mentioned on Channel two it'd be on Saturday. This coming Saturday, as a matter of fact, at 6:45 in the evening. And then on the. On Sunday next Sunday at noon. And on channel 44 also, it will be. [01:17:31] It'll be Sunday at 9:00pm okay, so you get three shots to watch that. Then Saturday at 6:45pm Sunday at noon on channel two, and then Sunday, Sunday evening on channel 44. Okay, let's. Hey, Generosa. Good morning. Good morning, Nom. Yes. I was just doing my breathing exercises and it was outside and it was a pleasure to see the grass again. I never thought I'd see it. Oh, gosh. See the glass. Now what G R A S. Oh, the grass. [01:18:04] The snow is melted there then, huh? Yeah, well, quite. There's still a lot of snow around here. But anyway, I'm off to the Indian Head Motor Lodge in New Hampshire where he's having. The AARP is having our St. Patrick's Day dinner up there today. Oh, that's nice. I hope you have a great time. Oh, we always do. And a bunch of us get together great. But anyway, it's a good day and have a good week and I'll talk to you later on. Okay, thank you. Thank you, Generosa. You have a good week too. Floyd, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to put you off so long. We just got about another minute. But I'm glad to have to talk with you. You're down in North Carolina? Yeah, I'm sorry I called too late too, Norman. I'm gonna. I'm not. I was born and raised in North Carolina, but I spent about 35 years in Boston. Tonight I was just getting over home. Think I was listening to. You know, I was going to call you earlier and sort of reminisce about some of the old times I had in Boston. You know, like you live in. You live in Everett, don't you? No, I grew up in Everett. But that's a long time ago. No, I live. Well, you remember a lot of things. I'm talking about old Everett Diner. This Everett Downer, I think it was. I believe I do recall it, but we. You're really going back, aren't you? Yeah. Yeah, well, I was there. I won't take up too much time when I do. Your busy now. But anyway, I was thinking about once. I was at Fenway park and Bucket back in the late 50s or early 60s. And Bucket. Brandon was pitching. He had walked about 18, 18 guys, I think really a record for that, you know. Oh yeah. Billy Herman hadn't looked out to dugout in about three years. Okay, now what year, what years are you talking about? About 50s, late 50s and early 60s. Oh, okay. Not that far back then. Oh, at least from my viewpoint it's not that far back. Oh well you're. You know what I would like you to do if you could call me some earlier, some weeknight. Not weeknight, weekend night like a Friday night or Saturday overnight. Yeah. And so we have, have. It'd be fun to reminisce about those days with you. Yeah, I listen to you an awful lot because I've been a BZ fan for years. Christ, I go back with Oak Larry Glick for a long long time. Oh well that's great. I appreciate that. I hope you will call because I have to leave now because we got news coming up soon. But thanks a million for the call Floyd. Take care. On behalf of our entire crew, Keith Shields and Emilio Morata and the lovely Marilyn Gorelnick, myself the almost good looking Norm Nathan person sitting in this past night for Bob Raleigh, Gary lapierre, the news all coming along and if you want to keep up to date with stuff, do stay tuned. My name is Norm and we'll send you a copy of the Fantastic World of Hanna Barbera. Thank you very much. Thank you. As a matter of fact I'm afraid that that's going to be have to be the end of it because we only have a minute and a half before the network news comes on. And just tell us quickly if you would again Jeff Pinsker about the where in the world is Carmen? San Diego, the Fantastic World of Hanna Barbera, 20 questions ASAP and all the, all the games that you guys put out. You mentioned Toys R Us. And also available, also available Spags Learning Smith, J.L. hammett, Learning Express, KB Toy Store and FAO Schwartz. That's great. This is fun. These are as I told Bob the other night people pretty say when are you getting those guys back on again? Because it's so much fun to play these games. So I hope we'll do it again very soon. Well, we love it too and we love giving out the prizes, especially at Christmas time. Well this is very very nice and people get a big kick out of getting all these things. You brighten up what could be a very quiet night, the night of Christmas when people have over eaten or something and all they want to do is lie down and go to bed. And the last Thing they want to do is call a talk show, but they have done that. And we filled out there. And we filled out their Christmas list, too. Huh? That's giving away some presents. We gave away a lot of presents. And I thank you very much, Chef Penske. I hope we'll do this again soon. It's my privilege. I look forward to it, Norm. Thank you. Have a good night. Thank you. You, too. Yeah. Bye. Bye now. Jeff Pinsker, you're on wbz. Coming up to news time. Let's see what's going on. I had a fair day today. And yourself? I had. I had really quite a nice day. I'm sorry. Your day was only fair. Well, I mean, it was. It wasn't bad. I had a great dinner. Great dinner. We broke away from the traditional turkey and had roast beef and ham. It was very good. Oh, that sounds really nice. Now, why was it just a, you know, not a great day? Was it because the people that you spent the day with were really scumbags. [01:22:24] Oh, boy. I hope my. Hope my family's not listening to this right now. You hope they don't confuse my voice with yours. You said that. I mean, I had a great day today. [01:22:35] Oh, sure. It was a good day. We did. Nothing exciting, you know, but it was good to see the family. Yeah. Christmas is kind of tough because there's so much anticipation. Anticipation of it, you know, not just weeks, months. And then the day comes, and no day can ever look. Live up to that advance billing. It just. I mean, what. What could happen? Some beautiful woman comes in and wants you to make love to her there on the front lawn. There's not. Nothing. Nothing can match the anticipation. But if you have a. If you have a nice dinner, I say, and you have a nice day with people that you like or the least that you could tolerate, I think. I think you're one up on it. [01:23:13] And you got gifts, I imagine. Got gifts galore. Oh, yes. Lots of clothes this year. Your clothes are good. You're obviously. You're moving along in the years. You're not getting toys anymore. I know, and I'm sad about that. But that's all right. [01:23:25] They're not giving you little telephones that talk back at you, little dolls that wet or anything like you're beyond that now. I kind of wanted one of those bumble balls, but they looked at me kind of. Have you seen those advertised? They've been around for a couple of years. The ones that vibrate? Yeah. They jump all around on the floor. Oh, yes, yes, yes. We Were at the house in Beverly. Business. Very, very lovely people. A lot of little kids there. And that bumbleball, I thought, I thought kids would get tired of that in about three seconds because all it does is vibrate. Yeah. Precedent, you know, it's got a lot of, you know, rubber and. Or whatever or some rubber substitute. And it's got the little things that stick out. Kind of like. Looks like some artists. An animatous idea of a planet. [01:24:15] An old fashioned planet that all had some little things sticking. Anyway, the kids were holding that and vibrating and fighting for it. And I thought, you know, you'd figure about three seconds of that thing jumping around in your head and you think, well that's very nice. Now I think I'll go to my woodworking shop. But it's. It's amazing. One of the. One of the kids did have a wood. A work wood shop. Wow. And they were very. It's got a sink. It had all kinds of. No water in it, of course. You wouldn't want to do that with a little kid had an electric saw and. Oh yeah, they had that of course. And it was kind of terrible. Kid, you know, cut off his arm there. But. But it was, you know, this ropes. Figured it's part of the game. Hammered his sister into the head and into submission. If they don't learn now. That's right too. This is a tough world we're in if you can't take a few body blows. Now the. What is, what is it going to be like when you. When you get into the real world? I say so anyway. Obviously I'm exaggerating. Not at all. Yeah. What about traffic right now? He's being. Let's see, it's nine minutes after 1:00, 10 minutes after 1. And I would imagine that people must be just overdosed on food and everything and must be sacked out for the night by now. Well, I assume so because right now it is pretty quiet out there on the highways. This traffic update is brought to you by Foxwoods. The outer highway showing just light volume now on Route 128 and 95. However, we are getting reports of a breakdown now westbound on the Mass pike between Route 9 and 495. So do keep an eye out for that. 495 itself is in good shape. Both north and southbound downtown moving very well. The expressway is a smooth ride between Brintree and Boston. The lower deck of 93 and the Tobin Bridge showing just light volume. And please keep in mind that it may snow later this morning. And if that's the case, please use caution if you have traveling plans at that time. Bruce Connolly, WBZ 24 Hour Traffic Network. Fox Woods Resort and Casino presents the fabulous. That kind of stuff. I'm sure people are just as sacked out. Had it so we have right the moment. We have three open lines and I think, I suspect throughout the night it'll be easy to get through. I don't think we're going to be bombarded today. As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure I will stay awake and listen myself all night. But I'll do the best I can. Thank you. So our phone numbers. 2, 5, 4, 10:30, area code 617. There's anything special you'd like to share with us? I certainly would like to share it with you. Let's do the. I haven't done the lottery numbers for a while. The Massachusetts daily lottery was 9511. You know, updates on it. Did your family. Was your family in the country during that period too? [01:26:54] Do you go back that far? I go back to. [01:26:58] Around the Mayflower, yes. Really before and just after. Wow. Kimball. My maiden name was Kimball and they've been researched extensively. And my mother. The Toll family on my mother's side and the hills and come back into the country around, you know, in the 16. [01:27:21] I guess Kimballs were before now right off the top. I haven't been. [01:27:26] The last two months I haven't been working in it and I've had my mind occupied in some other areas. [01:27:33] Okay. The museum, incidentally. John Kelly just brought in a note from I guess a listener who called. It reminded me. It's the. The Athenaeum. The Athenaeum down on Beacon Street. You familiar with that? No. [01:27:46] How do you spell it? Athenaeum. Athenaeum. I've got a T, H, E, N E, U, M. But it looks like. Like. Looks like a letter is missing and I can't quite figure, but it's pronounced. It looks like athenium, but it's pronounced athenaeum. Okay. I wasn't sure. Yeah. Somebody else also suggests the Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company. Would they have records like that, do you think? Probably, but it. [01:28:12] I. I don't remember if the gentleman said whether he was in. In the military. Did he say. Yes, he said it was his. It was an ancestor of his is named Colonel Elmore Hancock who served with Washington. All right. There is an archive and that it covers much more than Massachusetts, but it has been moved to Massachusetts and that would probably be the place. But I think any of these other. Well, certainly these Other two in that messages I would think would be able to give him that address. I could if I've got a grandchild recruit here tonight. So I don't want to go rummaging through the house. No, no, you, You. You've been very kind and I appreciate all the information between jfk, Mass, ICA archives and these two that I had an address on. [01:29:09] You know, the Newbury street and Boston College, B.C. i'm sure that they could right off the tip of the tongue. Give. Give him. [01:29:19] If he doesn't get it over the phone, I'm sure he. You know, from the call. [01:29:24] Get it. Well, you've offered. You offered some great. I've been to meetings that they've run here. They've come to Bates College and run. Run archival meetings. And I was being a member of those organization, private attended some of them a few years ago. But I'm. I've lost that fingertip touch. Okay. Hey, listen. I hope the little guy gets over the croup and everything that's. Oh, I think so. It's just most. Mostly a painful kind of, you know, annoying. Right. Ailment. It's just kind of scary. I know. It is. It is. Olivan, thanks a million. You're welcome. You're welcome. I listen to you all the time. Thanks. I appreciate that very much. Thank you. Bye bye, Olivan. Bye. Bye. Okay. Oh, she was going to say something else and I'm a quick on the finger on the draw there. [01:30:10] Okay, let's go to Herb in Peabody who I guess has some information too. Do you, Herb? Hello? Hi, Herb. Hi. No, Nathan speaking. Somebody just must have given it. Your boss Nathanium on Beacon Street. Yes, somebody did. A T H A N E U M. Say that Spell that again. A T H A N E U M. It is. It is. A T H A. Not a T H E A T H A. Nathanium. That makes sense. You've got to be a member. Yes, I know it. But I think if no. Nathan went to the door, they would open up, they would say. Who do you think you are? You? [01:30:47] I don't know because this is a. This is a fellow who. [01:30:51] Who. Who may be descended from John Hancock and is not sure whether he. His. His ancestor wasn't or not. Well, they may have something there. I. I knew somebody at one time who was a member of the. Of the Athenaeum. He was going to bring me inside. In fact, I was inside once for something. I can't remember what. It's an interesting place. Yes, it is. But as I Say I once peeked in there, but I didn't have a membership card. Oh, you're in the same boat I am now, right? Thanks for all the nostalgia that you dredge up. Hey, thanks a lot, Herb. I want to wish you a Happy Feast of Circumcision Day coming up Saturday. [01:31:25] Is that what that's called? Are you serious? On the church calendar, it's not New Year's, it's the Feast of Circumcision. You know, when Jesus was born. Yeah. And eight days after the 25th is January 1st. That's an official. I'm not kidding. No, no, I. I can tell you're not. That's interesting. And I did not know that that's what it is. Hey, you're okay. That's what happens on the eighth day for those little ones. [01:31:51] Well, let them beware. Right? Okay, thank you. Thanks a lot. Bye. Good night. Hi, this is Bill Marlowe. Tell me, when are you going to visit my friend Tommy Floramo's rest? [01:32:03] I know him. Hi, Joan. You know, I answer all those questions on those games that you have. Yeah. And as soon as I get on the phone, I go blank. Yeah, I know it. That happens to a lot of people. Yeah. I wonder why that is. I think it's. [01:32:19] I don't know. It must be some disease. [01:32:21] He said 99% perspiration and 1, you know, Edison. I knew it because I had heard it on the radio two days before and I couldn't even think. [01:32:32] But anyway, what I wanted to know is, did you get the name of the library you were looking for? Yes, the Athenaeum. Oh, is that what it was? Yeah. Oh, I thought it might have been the Kirstein. [01:32:42] Kirstein is more of a business library, I think, is it not? Yes, it is. Is that at Brandeis, Right? Yeah. No, I'm familiar with that. I think that. Yeah, that is more business. In fact, it's one of the really good business libraries around. It is? Yeah. We're looking for something more where a fellow could look up his genealogical background and stuff in his, you know, ancestors and things. I've been in and out of the room with the radio, so I didn't really know. I just heard the word library. You're forgiven. [01:33:09] There are no points scored against you for that. Thank you. Have a nice night. Have a nice New Year's. And you, too, Jonah. Thanks for the call. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Okay, here's Emily. I love that name, Emily who's in Needham. Hi, Emily. Hi, Norm. How are you? I'm fine. I hope you're okay. Oh, I am. [01:33:29] I have. I'm another caller about the gentleman who was interested in finding military information about the revolution. [01:33:38] Yeah. And about. Specifically about one of his ancestors. Right. There's an organization called the Daughters of the American Revolution, the dar. Oh, yeah. And their headquarters, I believe, are in Washington, D.C. but there's possibly a branch somewhere in the Boston area. Somebody. Somebody had called in also with the name of a man. I don't want to. Well, his name is Paul Walker. He lives in Brookline. I won't, I won't. I've got his address and phone number, and I don't want to get that specific on the air, but he's described as being past president of the Sons of the American Revolution. I would think that. Would that organization have any information, you think? No, I don't know about that one. That could be a. [01:34:22] Another male branch of the dar, but the DAR is strictly for females. [01:34:31] But it could possibly give you some leads if you can find out, probably from the. From the library and the app or the Athenaeum would be able to give you some information. Okay, good. About that organization. Good. And we also had somebody. Someone had suggested the New England Archae Archivists at BC and the New England Historical Genealogical Society on Newbury Street. I know they do. The error writing to the Federation of Genealogies Societies in Salt Lake City, which I think may be run by the Mormon Church, because I know that, as we mentioned, they deal very much in. I think that's quite contemporary, though, the Mormon one. I think that doesn't go back that far. I'm not positive. Well, of course. Of course. The Mormon Church doesn't go back that far, now that I think of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that the Athenaeum would give anyone some information about the dar, for instance, because I think the Athenaeum is a private library. I'm not sure, but I think it's. [01:35:34] It's not open to the general public. I don't believe. No, it's not. It is a private group organization, private library. You have to be a member. Right. Well, that. That's all my information. That's good information and thank you. Thanks, Emily. You're welcome. Bye. Bye. Okay. 2, 5, 4, 10:30. [01:35:52] See, what is it going to do? Oh, the weather is going to do a little. Let me do a meteorological field trip. What I do is I get up, see right here, and I look out the window, see what it's doing. [01:36:06] I can't tell from where I am, so I don't know Why I looked out the window. I want to see whether it started snowing yet. Because that's one of the forecasts from the extended wbz. Inside out or outside in or whatever it is. Yeah, see, from inside to out to, from inside to. [01:36:24] I don't know. She's turned them around the other way anyhow. And so she figures that, let's see, the individuals, the pair would be about 51 million pair. She says it was a lot of socks. I was dumbfounded when I found out how many. So they had a retirement party for her the other day in their industrial Revolution era factory in downtown Seneca Falls Falls, the only hosiery mill left in upstate New York, where they used to have dozens of them. And she just was so darn pleased because all her friends turned out. Can you imagine spending that much time, almost 33 years, just turning socks inside out or outside in or something until, until you, when you finished, you had worked on over 102 million socks. [01:37:14] Now just don't come complaining to me about your job ever again. Well, with time in her hand, you say, what is she planning to do? And I wish I had a really funny punchline for this, but it just says Mrs. Picaro promised to take her overweight dachshund Heidi for more walks, travel some and read plenty. [01:37:36] She has lots of reasons to feel grateful, she said. [01:37:41] And then the final line by the Associated Press writer says glove turners all over the world must be nodding their heads. I don't know why that means that people who work in glove factories have to go through the same thing. I don't know about that. [01:37:54] But I guess now that now they're done with some kind of a pneumatic device, says a sock can be turned in a split second. [01:38:03] And I don't know. Anyway, I don't think we have to make a whole program out of that because that's getting kind of boring. [01:38:11] Also, Entertainment Weekly has its top people of the year, Top Entertainers of 1993. Who do you think would be heading the list? This is from Entertainment Weekly magazine. Every magazine has had its top people. People magazine, us and several others. Heading the list in Entertainment Weekly is Steven Spielberg, the film director who was just coming out with a. With Schindler's List, a brilliant, brilliant movie. [01:38:40] And also Jurassic park, which has, I guess, been the number one movie for a very long time in, in box office draws. Anyway, after Spielberg is David Letterman, who the magazine says has had one of the most hyped employer changes of the decade when he left NBC for CBS with a contract estimated to be worth about 42 million. In third place, movie actress Holly Hunter for her critical triumph in the Piano. I haven't seen that, but she was in that TV news. Broadcast news. Yeah, broadcast news. I thought she was absolutely brilliant in that. [01:39:25] Others to make entertainers listen include singer Whitney Houston, the infamous bad girl of Beverly Hills 9000, 210 Shannen Doherty and Norm Nathan. Yep, he closed out that list. Not really, but he should have. Believe me, I was just as surprised as you when the last 20 minutes or so unwrapped into a Christmas night archive from the year before, another classic from the heyday of Boston radio has entertained us once more. Thank you, Vault of Silliness. Oh, you're very welcome. If you're familiar with the closing credits. I do. You know that these extra special episodes have many entertaining mentions to throw back to. And this one is, without exception. It may very well break the record for thank yous. So stand by, because first let's close the vault and leave this world a little sillier than we found it. Four Route 72 railroad restaurant cars. Roadside diners. Lunch wagons and push carts for the love of trains. Dining out. The New Jersey State Asylum for the Gastronomically Insane. The Hospital for Terminally Poor Eaters. Distrustful Cats who Love Dogs. Ice Dams. Hold the Chicken and Make It Pee. Joe Stapleton, Joe Green and the Beezy Copter. Whole milk and moxie calls from hell. Worst nightmares Wreckers. Ford's Model T Planetary transmission. Henry the Hatter in Lynn, Mass. Hat blocks. The Capitol Diner. Ted Williams, Telly Savalas. Who loves you, Baby? The Thompson Square Theater. The Coconut Grove. Arthur and Ernest Curtis. 10,000 year old backyard arrowheads pressing too many buttons. Chimanizing. That was harmonizing with the chimes. Chimanizing. [01:41:14] Spontaneous tuition riots. Ovaltine. Hot or cold. Ihop. Breakfast all day. Marazine. Jimmy Durante. Phonograph records. Strawberries. Records and tapes. Jeff Pinsker. University Games. Carmen Sandiego. Zen monasteries. Skunk cabbage. Signs of Spring. Hard Boiled Eggs. Adventures in Cassettes. Classic Old Time Radio. Walt Andrews, Mo Zudikoff. Tommy Dorsey and the clambake 7. The Indian head Motor Lodge. The Everett Diner. [01:41:48] Okay, almost there. Back in the day. Hanna Barbera. Scumbags, Gifts. Bumbleballs Hammering your siblings into submission. The Boston Athenaeum. The Ancient and Honorable Artillery Company. Colonel Elmore Hancock. Dredged up nostalgia. The Feast of Circumcision. The Kirsten Business Library. The Sons of the American Revolution. The New England Archivists. The New England Historical Genealogical Society. The Federation of Genealogical Societies. Meteorological field trips. That's a lot of jiggles there, isn't it? Socks and hosiery. Fred from New Jersey, Raj from mit, Kristen from Dorchester. Fred from Yarmouth, Maine. Generosa. John Kelly, Keith Shields, Emilio Morata, Bruce Connolly, Jack Hart. And the frustrated game inventor and band guru, the almost again missed it by that much. The almost good looking Norm Nathan person. Merry Christmas, Happy New year and happy St. Patrick's Day. I'm Tony Nesbitt. Yeah, 1852 I think. I think. I don't think you were around in those days. Oh yeah. I've been around since the. Since the beginning of time. In fact. When I first came here, the entire. [01:43:06] The entire land was covered with water. I had to hang around until they separated the water from the water from the earth. I don't know what I'm saying. I had a funny thing going there and I blew it.