Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: So great to have you back for another withdrawal from Norm Nathan's vault of silliness. This week we have a Norm Nathan show from October 5, 1996.
I have titled it Marlo's Highs as Bill Marlowe and his booming voice had passed on to that great radio studio in the sky. Tom Howey was producing. What a busy 4am hour Norm had as he takes 10 calls here for our listening pleasure. They are as John from Boca Raton by way of Revere. He called and mentioned about Norm and Ron Della Chiesa along with John Henning, Chris Lydon, Jess Kane and others who spoke at the memorial for Bill Marlow. Sue in Seven Springs, Pennsylvania, Gene in Buford, South Carolina, Terry in Ottawa, Jim from Lynn with some sweet high praise for Norm. Eleanor in Wellfleet. Not a call. But Norm says hello to Higgins from Charleston, South Carolina, John from Wakefield, Beth and Waltham, Ed from Cambridge. Now, Ed must have had a checklist of topics as Norm barely got a word in. Before he closes the hour, he teases the next night's guests. A couple of World War II pilots who authored the book Amelia Earhart, case closed. And Eleanor Valli, the widow of Rudy Valli. And then the tape ends. We do get three commercials, the Ad Expo at the Heinz Convention Center, WBZ's Time Flashback contest and the North Shore Music Theater production of Cabaret. Please consider supporting the show by joining Patreon. Buy me a coffee and or Castos. All links are in the description. Episode 308, Marlowe's Highs resonates its way to your ears in 3, 2 and 1.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: Singing the song so you know it's time for your music. And so when the daytoday world starts to drive you insane and you feel like you're riding on a runaway train door, makes you laugh and keep spirits bright.
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So stay here and listen. Then you'll understand either habit you'll never outgrow.
But right now, Norm Nathan show.
I said rhino.
Norm Nathan show.
Here's Norm.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: Hello.
It is eight minutes after 4:00 clock and I think that is just such a lovely time of day. Thank you so much.
We'll take some calls now. We'll be here until 5 this morning. That always surprised me.
You know what that means in English?
Means rat's mouth.
Or is that rat's mouth or red bokeh?
Wait a minute. Last John, because he's the one down there in Boca Ratan. Hi, John.
[00:03:12] Speaker D: Can you hear me okay?
[00:03:14] Speaker C: I can hear you. Okay. I can't imagine that you can hear us in Boca Ratan.
[00:03:19] Speaker D: Mouth of the rat, sir.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: What is it? What is that? The mouth of the rat. Yeah.
Yeah, it does really mean that.
[00:03:25] Speaker D: Yeah, I wanted to call up. Actually, I've been trying to call every now and then for the past few months, but, you know, for one reason or another, I couldn't get through. You know, you've had a guest or something's been happening. But you and I are old buddies and you.
[00:03:39] Speaker C: You cannot hear us at Boca Ratana.
[00:03:41] Speaker D: I don't believe. No, no, no, I can't pick up wbc, okay?
[00:03:43] Speaker C: Because the only place in Florida on occasion is around Daytona beach on the East Coast. And anyway, don't let me take up your money there to talk. And you. You speak whatever you have to say.
[00:03:57] Speaker D: Don't worry about my money, you know, okay. It's only money I revere. And download it in Boca. No, the reason I wanted to call, and I have been wanting to call for a while is I want to just say a few words to you. I just want to give you my thoughts.
You said you spoke some good words at Bill Morrow's farewell, so I'm told.
[00:04:21] Speaker C: Oh, yes. Yeah. Well, there were a whole group of us who.
Who were at the, you know, edits memorial a few weeks ago. Yes.
[00:04:28] Speaker D: Yeah, that was while back. And I was talking to old buddy Ron Della Chiesa a while, and he told me that you spoke and I
[00:04:33] Speaker C: said, yes, I did. And Ron did. And John henning from Channel 5. Channel 4. Channel 4, which is our own channel, and a few others.
Chris Lydon from WBUR fm.
And a few people sang. Did you. You knew Bill Marlowe, obviously, then, like I know you.
[00:04:52] Speaker D: You don't remember me, but you and I, you. You and I have crossed paths several times during your career.
One time, an example up at Crotchet Mountain, remember?
[00:05:03] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that was w. Busy. That was bz. That's right. Had a. Had a. Had a thing going up there that year.
[00:05:10] Speaker D: Had a.
A ski thing going there. And yes, it was still there. And Larry was. I think Larry was working the afternoons then.
[00:05:19] Speaker C: Would I know you by your last name? Because your voice sounds so familiar to me. Bert Deluci.
John Deluci. Bert deluchi.
Bert Bellucci.
[00:05:28] Speaker E: Like the.
[00:05:28] Speaker D: Like the director, Bernardo.
[00:05:30] Speaker C: Oh, Bert is your first name?
[00:05:32] Speaker D: No, no, John.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: John. Oh, I'm sorry. Of course, John Bertolucci. Bertolucci. That's a pretty name. Bertolucci.
[00:05:41] Speaker D: Well, Nathan is. Is a pretty name.
[00:05:42] Speaker C: Not a. Not a bad name, if you like funny names. Now, you're from Revere originally, you said. But how long have you been down in Florida?
[00:05:49] Speaker D: I've been down here full time.
Oh, I. I would have to guess about three, four or five years now.
[00:05:56] Speaker F: What.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: Now what are you doing down there? Did you get a job down in that area?
[00:06:00] Speaker D: Norm get to use dirty words?
[00:06:03] Speaker C: This is Florida.
[00:06:04] Speaker D: This is Boca Raton.
[00:06:05] Speaker C: Oh, you don't get. You. Nobody works down at Boca Raton.
[00:06:09] Speaker D: Go and watch Carl Y. Fish down the street there. Oh, I see Rose has a restaurant up here where he does his radio show. Is that on him? Boston?
[00:06:17] Speaker C: No, no, no, no. Not that I'm aware of.
[00:06:20] Speaker D: Hey, I do have a question. What's happening with the who's who the Red Sox rumored to be getting as a manager?
[00:06:28] Speaker C: Well, they just lost one guy, I guess you know about that.
[00:06:31] Speaker D: Yeah, he's here.
[00:06:33] Speaker C: That's right. He'd be doing the Florida Marlins. Yeah, I don't. I don't know what the latest. I should know that, but I tell you the truth, I kind of lost interest in the Red Sox a little bit. My interest won't be lost forever because I've been a fan of there since about 1612.
So I'll be interested again. But they've been going through some pretty stupid periods, and I was getting excited about them during the last half of the season because they began winning again.
But then they had the thing with the manager and you know, all that kind of stuff. And I guess I'm giving you a long answer when the answer is I don't know.
[00:07:11] Speaker D: You know, is the sentiment up there? Are people.
Are the people agreeing with the dismissal of Kennedy?
[00:07:18] Speaker C: No, I don't think so.
[00:07:19] Speaker D: No. I talked to my dad that's up to this time of year, and he's on his way back, and he didn't think that was.
[00:07:24] Speaker C: No, I don't think that's true. I think people are very disappointed in the Sox. Matter of fact, there have been editorials in the local press about that. Not editorials, but the commentaries by sports writers in the newspaper saying they got to come to the people. Are they? And ask them for money for a new ballpark and all of that. And look what they're doing.
And besides that, eventually the profits from the whole thing will be going down to get Tom Yorky's home down in the South.
No, I mean, they're not. They're not a popular club at the. Among most people at the moment. And they're not happy about the dismissal of Kennedy. No, no.
[00:08:03] Speaker D: So I guess it falls in duket flap. If I were in Boston now and, and thinking about this.
Yeah, he would probably be the unpopular character.
[00:08:12] Speaker C: I think he is very definitely. So I, I, you know, of course I'm speaking generally. I haven't taken a survey of a whole lot of people, but that seems to be the general drift of things at the moment.
[00:08:23] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:08:23] Speaker D: Norma, it was nice talking to you. I'm glad you're, you're still on the air. I don't know how you got to be the Dean. Like I said the last time, I
[00:08:30] Speaker C: got to be the old man.
[00:08:31] Speaker D: Unless Sanders is still hanging out somewhere.
[00:08:34] Speaker C: No, actually, actually that, you're right. Gus Saunders does a cooking program on a couple of Massachusetts station. At least two that I know of and he's, yeah, he's, he's, he's been in broadcasting longer than I have. He's the only one I can think of who's, who's outlasted anybody and he's still in and. Yeah, that's true, but I think I come second.
Hey, John. John, it's, it's lovely to talk with you. I hope things go well for you down there.
[00:09:02] Speaker D: Things are going well. And Norm, God bless you and everybody else up in Boston and, and I'm sure the melodious tones of Bill Milo are going to be missed.
[00:09:10] Speaker C: Yes, they will be missed. He was, he was one of a kind and we could use more of that kind in broadcasting.
[00:09:16] Speaker D: You know, I have one, one quick a comment about him though. You know, he, he always despised rock and roll. So he said, yes, no, no, N O I S E just M U S I C But you remember he used to do the top 40 show in WCOP.
[00:09:33] Speaker C: I worked with him when he did that.
That was back in the, the early, let's see, the early 50s. The early 50s, that's right. Which was the early days because his
[00:09:43] Speaker D: replacement on that was Tom Evans. I remember that.
[00:09:45] Speaker C: Yeah, that's right. He played rock.
[00:09:48] Speaker D: You know, he didn't want to admit it, but he played rock at one juncture in his career.
[00:09:52] Speaker C: I think, I think the problem was I don't think he understood rock and it wasn't his kind of music, but he played also. We worked together at another radio station. It was called wmre.
[00:10:03] Speaker D: I remember that. Wm.
[00:10:05] Speaker C: Yeah. From memories. And we, we played a lot of, it wasn't rock, but a lot of really junk music there too.
But I think he felt comfortable with junk pop Music, more so than with rock music, which he felt he just couldn't identify with.
[00:10:21] Speaker D: But he had probably one long time.
[00:10:24] Speaker C: He had one of. Probably one of the greatest voices in broadcasting.
[00:10:27] Speaker D: Absolutely. He would.
Except for yours, I would have to say. His is the second best.
[00:10:32] Speaker C: No, it's not. No, no. Thank you. But I. I would dispute that he had. His voice was much, much better. Much richer than mine, by far.
[00:10:42] Speaker D: Dave is down here, isn't he?
[00:10:44] Speaker C: Yes, he is. I'm not. I'm not sure what part of Florida Dave Maynard is in, but he's down that way. Yes.
[00:10:50] Speaker D: And also we have a morning newscaster here doing all news in the morning on WJNO by the name of Bob Pallante.
[00:10:58] Speaker C: Oh, is that where Bob is? Yeah, I work with him at WHDH up here. I did. I wondered what happened. He's a. I think he's an excellent newsman. I'm sorry, he's not up here again anymore. Are you in broadcasting, John?
[00:11:11] Speaker E: No more.
[00:11:12] Speaker D: No. I didn't live as long as you did. And I was in and out of the business, you know. I lasted a few years.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: Where did you work?
[00:11:19] Speaker D: I worked at the old wxhr. Remember that? Up in.
In Cambridge. It later became WCAS in Cambridge. Arlington. Somerville was with.
[00:11:30] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. Now it's. It's jwg.
[00:11:35] Speaker D: It's Bob Bittman station, I think.
[00:11:36] Speaker C: Yes, it's WJIB now.
[00:11:38] Speaker D: The old Jib. Yeah. Yes, that's right. I worked. My boss, my program director was Tony Chanel.
[00:11:44] Speaker C: Oh, is that right? Yeah, Tony still is on. Not as much as he used to be, but he's still on wbur.
[00:11:50] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:11:51] Speaker C: And doing some jazz stuff overnight.
[00:11:53] Speaker D: And except for Jack Cole and Bob Polanti, that's it for Boston down here. Well, Jack McDermott, but nobody will remember that one.
[00:11:59] Speaker C: I remember Jack McDermott, sure. He's down in Florida, too.
[00:12:03] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, yeah, he's still here.
He does a talk show in the afternoon on one of our stations.
And we had Larry justice for a while, but he disappeared.
[00:12:13] Speaker C: Larry. Last I heard, he owned a station down on Cape Cod. And Larry used to be here at wbz.
[00:12:19] Speaker D: I know he didn't. He sold that and came down here and was working weekends and I don't know what happened to him.
[00:12:24] Speaker C: Oh, I see. So my remembrance of him is too early. I mean, he left the station, I remember him at, anyway, and went down to Florida. I didn't know that.
[00:12:35] Speaker D: Yeah, he's down here.
[00:12:37] Speaker C: You're. You're briefing me all over the place. The guys I. I often wondered about.
No, no, you have a good one. Hey, you have a great one. John, it's good to talk with you. Thanks a million.
[00:12:47] Speaker D: We'll talk again.
[00:12:48] Speaker C: I hope we do soon.
Bye. Bye.
[00:12:51] Speaker E: Man.
[00:12:51] Speaker C: Interesting. I don't know how many. How interesting that might have been to you, but if you've been around radio for any length of time, some of those names must, I would think would be familiar to you, I would guess.
And Anyway, phone numbers, 2, 5. We have lots of open line of any five years from now or 50 years.
Remember back there in 1996, Norm Nathan was saying the same he'd been saying since 1944. So let's skip it. Let's go to sue in Pennsylvania. Hi, sue, you're on wbc. How you doing?
[00:13:24] Speaker B: I'm good. How are you doing, Norm?
[00:13:26] Speaker C: I'm doing just fine, thank you.
[00:13:28] Speaker E: And I just thought I'd go and
[00:13:29] Speaker B: check in with you.
[00:13:30] Speaker E: I haven't talked to you since before your cruise.
[00:13:33] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:13:33] Speaker C: Well, I appreciate you calling back. Thank you.
[00:13:35] Speaker E: Oh, you're welcome. I want to tell you, your show's still great.
[00:13:39] Speaker C: Well, it's. Yeah, still a silly program, but what the heck, you got to be silly sometime.
[00:13:44] Speaker E: Well, that's true.
[00:13:45] Speaker C: I forgot where.
[00:13:46] Speaker G: Where.
[00:13:46] Speaker C: Where you are in Pennsylvania. Where would that be? What? Pardon me.
[00:13:49] Speaker E: Seven Springs.
[00:13:52] Speaker C: Oh, that's right. You're the one who travels between.
You work at a club.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:59] Speaker C: At a ski resort. Ski resort, that's right. Yes.
It's all coming back to me now.
[00:14:05] Speaker E: Yeah, it's starting to get cold around here. I think the same as you folks.
[00:14:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Right now It's.
It's about 34, a little under 34. Outside our studios in Boston is usually a little bit less cold than some of the other areas.
So we've got. Frost has set into some suburban communities.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:26] Speaker C: And they go. They go. All the delicious tomatoes and everything.
[00:14:29] Speaker E: Yep.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: We had frost last night.
[00:14:31] Speaker C: Really? Yeah.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:33] Speaker E: The high was, I think, 47 today.
So I'm not sure.
[00:14:36] Speaker C: I don't know what it is now.
[00:14:37] Speaker E: It's cold.
Driving home and it's cold.
[00:14:40] Speaker C: I mean, the warmest it got was 47.
[00:14:42] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:14:43] Speaker E: Our high was 47 in Somerset.
[00:14:46] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know. It's. It's. It's like one minute it's. It's. It's summer, it seems. And then the cold frost sets in and overnight almost, and that's the end of that. But we're still waiting for Indian summer when the temperatures will go back right up again, right?
[00:15:02] Speaker E: Yeah. I think Pittsburgh was probably a little warmer than. You know. They're usually about 10 degrees warmer than we are. But I didn't hear any news.
I just heard your station, and I hear what's going on in Boston, but
[00:15:12] Speaker C: I have no idea what's going on in front of. Hey, dress warmly then. Cause I don't want you to come down with anything, Sue.
[00:15:18] Speaker E: I sure will. You have a nice night.
[00:15:21] Speaker C: You, too. Thanks a lot.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: I'll talk to you later.
[00:15:23] Speaker C: I appreciate that.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: All right.
[00:15:24] Speaker C: Thanks a lot, Sue.
Bye. Bye. She's a sweetie. I like Sue. I think I may marry her. Although I think she's already married. I'm not really sure.
And then she'd have to relocate here.
What am I talking about? I have no idea what I'm saying.
Oh, South Carolina. Gene, hi. How you doing?
[00:15:43] Speaker E: Hi, I'm fine. How are you, Norm?
[00:15:45] Speaker C: Fine, thank you. I, I. We don't usually get down to South Carolina. I suspect you're not listening to us now, are you?
[00:15:52] Speaker E: Yes, I am.
[00:15:53] Speaker C: You can hear us in South Carolina because we get to North Carolina.
[00:15:56] Speaker E: No, out South. Well, every once in a while I can pick you up at this hour of the morning.
[00:15:59] Speaker C: Well, that's lovely. I appreciate that. Where, where, what's the town you're in?
[00:16:03] Speaker E: I'm in Beaufort, where they made the pig chill. Forrest Gump.
[00:16:06] Speaker C: Oh, yes, that's right. That's right. Buford, South Carolina. You don't have an accent. Are you from the North?
[00:16:11] Speaker E: I am from Boston.
[00:16:13] Speaker C: Well, that's, I guess that's north.
[00:16:15] Speaker E: Yeah. When I heard you talking about Bill Marlowe, it brought back memories of Jess Kane.
[00:16:20] Speaker C: That's right, yeah. As a matter of fact, I forgot I was mentioning who was speaking at the memorial for Bill Marlowe. And I left out Jess's name. Jess was one of the speakers there, too.
And I get to see him every now and then. And all of us old timers kind of get to see each other.
[00:16:36] Speaker E: Well, he had one of the funniest morning programs that they ever had up there.
[00:16:40] Speaker C: Yes, he did. He was a great innovator in a lot of things.
And I miss programs like that. There were just a very few. Now, I was mentioning that so much of radio was this hate radio stuff where people get very political and start screaming awful things at each other and, you know, and sports shows kind of. Many of them are like that, too, these talk shows. And whatever happened to the fun with the Jess Kanes and the Bob and
[00:17:08] Speaker E: Rays and I was gonna mention Bob and Ray.
[00:17:11] Speaker H: Yeah.
[00:17:11] Speaker C: I mean, one of the greatest exports we ever had out of Boston of. Very, very clever team.
[00:17:17] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:17:17] Speaker C: I don't know. Radio doesn't seem to search those kind of groups out anymore and I. I think that's too bad.
[00:17:23] Speaker E: Well, what was the man that had music of your life?
[00:17:25] Speaker C: Oh, well, music of your life is the. Is the name the slogan of one of the radio stations in, in the Boston area? It's in Medford, actually.
Well, the number of people who actually do that. Would that be Alan Derry?
[00:17:41] Speaker E: Alan Derry, yeah.
[00:17:43] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:17:44] Speaker E: Is he still around? Is he still on?
[00:17:46] Speaker C: No, I don't think he's on radio that I'm aware of. I haven't heard him. Last I'd heard he was up in Manchester, New Hampshire and. But I think he must be retired now, I would guess, although I'm not positive of that.
[00:18:00] Speaker E: Well, I used to listen to Bill Marlowe and he played the best music ever heard.
[00:18:04] Speaker C: Yeah, he did play. He did play some good stuff. Now, what brought you to South Carolina?
[00:18:09] Speaker E: Oh, just to move and play golf year round.
Hello.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: You don't need. You don't need any more reason than that. I guess that makes sense to me.
Are you happy down there?
[00:18:20] Speaker E: Yes, I am.
[00:18:20] Speaker G: How long.
[00:18:21] Speaker C: How long you been there?
[00:18:22] Speaker E: About eight years.
[00:18:23] Speaker C: Oh, you're an old veteran then, huh?
I shouldn't say an old veteran.
[00:18:27] Speaker E: Yeah, I'm old.
Well, if I remember Bob and Ray and all those people, you can tell.
[00:18:32] Speaker C: Well, I'm. I'm really glad because that's one of the things that I regret. As the years go by. People will not remember Bob and Ray and they won't remember a lot of.
[00:18:42] Speaker E: Well, Ray passed away, didn't he?
[00:18:45] Speaker C: Yes, he did. Ray Goulding you're talking about? Yes, yes, he did. He died.
Oh, I don't know. It's been three, four, five years now, I guess, and Bob has been pretty much retired. Bob Elliot's son, though, is. Is doing very well in movies and stuff.
[00:19:01] Speaker E: Oh, really?
[00:19:01] Speaker C: Chris Elliot? Did you. Did you get to see Groundhog Day, for example, the movie?
He was in that and he was one of the.
One of the original writers and performers on the David Letterman show when David Letterman first went on nights.
And anyway, that's Bob Elliot's son, Chris Elliott. So the tradition goes on in the same family.
[00:19:26] Speaker E: Well, we have a station down here wlow.
It used to have the big band sound.
All of a sudden someone has taken it over and it is junk.
It has ruined the entire area. Everybody had it tuned in stores, cars, you name it, everybody.
[00:19:42] Speaker C: Why Would they? If they had that many listeners, why would they change the floor?
[00:19:45] Speaker E: I don't know. Somebody took it over and thought he was being smart and it's changed the whole repertoire, so it's just terrible.
[00:19:51] Speaker C: Oh, that's too bad. Sorry to hear that.
[00:19:54] Speaker E: Well, they got rid of one man who loved the big bands and he made a mistake one night, I guess, on the air, and they canned him and.
[00:20:02] Speaker C: Well, then can the whole format.
[00:20:03] Speaker E: I can. The whole format, yeah. So that's really too bad.
[00:20:08] Speaker C: I'm sorry to hear that.
[00:20:09] Speaker E: Yeah, well, I hear that. I love hearing you people and every once in a while I can pick you up, but obviously I'm not asleep because I can't sleep anymore tonight, so here we are.
[00:20:17] Speaker C: Okay. Well, I'm glad you. I'm glad you're listening and I'm glad you called. Gene, it's a pleasure to hear from you.
[00:20:22] Speaker E: Thank you so much, Norm.
[00:20:23] Speaker C: Take care. Bye. Bye.
Okay, that gets kind of interesting. Every now and then we hear from a state we don't normally hear from and South Carolina is one of them. Let's go to Terry up in Ontario, Canada. Hi, Terry.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: Hi.
[00:20:38] Speaker E: Hi.
[00:20:38] Speaker C: You have such a cute little voice there.
[00:20:40] Speaker B: Hi. Thank you.
I just loved listening to your show on Friday nights.
[00:20:46] Speaker C: Well, I'm awfully glad about that. Where. What town are you in?
[00:20:50] Speaker B: Ottawa.
[00:20:51] Speaker C: In Ontario. Where are you?
[00:20:54] Speaker B: Ottawa.
[00:20:55] Speaker C: Oh, you're in Ottawa?
[00:20:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:57] Speaker C: Oh, that's the capital of the entire country.
Wow. Wowee.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:04] Speaker C: What are you doing up at this time of the morning?
[00:21:07] Speaker B: You look a little insomniac.
[00:21:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know why I asked. Of course, I work at nights normally, but even when I'm not working, I find myself up at 2, 3, 4, 5 o' clock in the morning.
It's kind of cozy, isn't it? At this time of the day, you're kind of alone and it's dark and.
And there are no, I don't know, no interruptions. So I don't know what there is to interrupt when you're up at 3 or 4 in the morning.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Well, my friends all know I'm up at 3 or 4 in the morning, so they call me if they have to talk.
[00:21:38] Speaker C: Do they call you at this time of the day?
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Oh, yes.
[00:21:41] Speaker C: Now, do you live with your folks?
[00:21:43] Speaker B: No, I live all by myself.
[00:21:44] Speaker C: Oh, okay. So that therefore your folks don't say, hey, Terry, who's calling you at this time of the morning? And tell them they're waking up the entire house so you don't have to worry about that stuff?
[00:21:54] Speaker B: No, but they know I let my friends call me whatever time.
[00:21:57] Speaker C: You sound very young. Are you.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: You want to guess my age?
[00:22:01] Speaker C: Okay, let me see. Guess if you want to guess too. Tom.
Tom. Let's see. Thomas holding up 20. The year, the age? He says 20.
I say I think he's probably pretty close. I'd say maybe 20. I'll say 22. Just to be different.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah, right on the nose.
[00:22:19] Speaker C: 22.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah. My birthday was last Friday.
[00:22:22] Speaker C: Oh. Happy birthday, terry. That's ridiculous. 22 is a lovely age. Do you think it's lovely?
[00:22:27] Speaker B: I adore it. I do.
[00:22:30] Speaker C: The reason I asked is because it is a great age. But I think a lot of people never. Most people don't ever think whatever age they are is great.
I don't know why we look at somebody younger or older or something and wish we were that.
But of course, older is no problem because that'll come too.
Now, what do you do up there in Ottawa?
[00:22:53] Speaker B: What do I do in Ottawa?
[00:22:54] Speaker C: Are you the Prime Minister of the entire country or something big like that?
[00:22:57] Speaker B: Not quite. Not quite. Not quite.
I'm going to Carleton University. I don't know if you've heard of it.
[00:23:04] Speaker C: Which university?
[00:23:05] Speaker B: Carleton.
[00:23:06] Speaker C: Yes, I have heard of it. Yes. And what are you majoring in?
[00:23:10] Speaker B: Social work.
[00:23:12] Speaker C: Well, you have such a lovely, caressing, lovely, gentle, soothing voice. I would suspect.
I would suspect you'd be fantastic at that.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Oh, thank you very much.
[00:23:22] Speaker C: Well, you're entirely welcome very, very much. Is there somebody. Is there somebody there with you and I. Could I keep. Maybe I'm going crazy, but I keep hearing other voices.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Oh, no, it's the radio. It's the seven second delay or whatever.
[00:23:35] Speaker C: Oh, I see. Okay. Okay. Anyway, you're nice to call Terry, and I really appreciate that, and good luck to you and all your friends.
[00:23:42] Speaker B: Thank you. Have a good night.
[00:23:45] Speaker C: Good night to you too, Terry. She did. I thought she did sound adorable. She must sound particularly adorable to Tom Howie, our producer. Who's what? About the same age you? About the same age. Tom, you're 22 also, aren't you?
Do you ever think about taking a trip up to Ottawa to Carleton College up there?
Yeah, I see. See, you're suddenly considering it. Okay, Jim and Lynn. That almost rhymes.
[00:24:14] Speaker G: Jim and Lynn.
[00:24:15] Speaker C: Jim and Lynn. Yeah. How you doing, Jim?
[00:24:17] Speaker G: Not too bad yourself.
[00:24:18] Speaker C: Good, thank you.
[00:24:19] Speaker G: I know you always wanted to be named Jim. You always said that you wanted that big he man named Jim.
[00:24:24] Speaker C: That's right. That's exactly right. Because I. As I mentioned the name naming as My father used to call me. Naming the name Norman, no matter how you pronounce it, is really kind of a sissy name, I've always thought.
[00:24:36] Speaker G: No, it's not.
[00:24:38] Speaker C: Well, I thank you for saying that. But Jim, see, Jim, always. Jim to me was always the take charge of you.
Well, that's.
[00:24:46] Speaker G: I've been listening to you for I don't know how long I work at General Electric and Lynn.
[00:24:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:50] Speaker G: And on nights, I. I tell you, I wish you were on the seven days a week that I do work six, seven days a week.
[00:24:58] Speaker C: Did you work that many days a week?
[00:25:00] Speaker G: Well, when there's overtime, I do, yeah. Not that I have to, but sometimes I do. And when I do, I mean, you get the most soothing voice that. Well, no matter what, what's going on in my life, boy, it's the most relaxing thing. People tell me, hey, you listen to the talk show? What's wrong with you?
You know, rock stuff blasting and everything.
Hey, this is the best show. I tell them, listen to this guy, Norm.
[00:25:27] Speaker C: Well, that's great of you, Jim. I can't. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.
[00:25:31] Speaker G: I mean, Bob. Bob Raleigh and stuff, he's okay, but I mean, on the weekends, I don't need to listen to the politics stuff and that. I'm not into that.
And do a good job.
[00:25:42] Speaker C: I thank you. Are you at work now?
[00:25:44] Speaker G: No, I got tonight off.
[00:25:45] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:25:46] Speaker G: And I just come home and I turn the radio on while I've been home for a half an hour. So when I. When I called, you know, I heard it on the radio here, and I said, I gotta call Norm. I put my girlfriend on earlier. I says, this is Norm. I said, turn on easy. Because I. I says, you know, before I told her, I said, this guy here, you get the most soothing voice if you got any high blood pressure or whatever.
This guy here, I swear, will calm you right down.
[00:26:13] Speaker C: Hey, thanks.
[00:26:14] Speaker G: Because I dig to show that you don't have all this, you know, politics and anything like that, you know. You know what really got me? A couple weeks ago, maybe a week and a half ago, yeah, they had Wolfie and Bob o' Neill back to back.
How the hell could he handle something like that?
Was funny as hell. I always thought. I always thought Bob o' Neill was a guy that was in the show there to get the thing moving, you know.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: No, he's just a caller who says he was in vaudeville at one time and loves to get on the undue stick.
[00:26:48] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: You know, but I mean, no, He's. It's a genuine thing. He's not part of the cast or anything.
[00:26:54] Speaker G: I always thought it was part of the show, the way you guys really put him down.
He does get on your nerves.
[00:27:00] Speaker C: He really does. He really does, though.
[00:27:02] Speaker G: That's how he put him down.
[00:27:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:03] Speaker G: That's two people in a row like that.
[00:27:06] Speaker C: Yeah, you're. You're very. You're very observant, Jim, and I appreciate that.
[00:27:10] Speaker G: I listen to you all the time, Norm. I wish you on seven days a week.
[00:27:13] Speaker C: Well, thanks a lot, Jim. Thank you very much. I hope you have a great weekend.
[00:27:16] Speaker G: I hope you do too, Norm.
[00:27:18] Speaker C: Thanks a million. Bye. Bye, Jim.
Okay, help me. Let's get on a. Well, whoop. And I got the wrong thing here.
Maybe there's somebody on that line.
[00:27:26] Speaker E: Hello?
[00:27:26] Speaker C: Who is this? You're on wbz, whoever you are. I'm sorry, I. I put you on by mistake and you don't even know I'm talking to you.
Are you there?
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Okay, we're getting another call soon from somebody else from South Carolina. Let's go. Meantime, we'll go down to the Cape.
I think maybe we probably come in better to South Carolina than we do. Not a. Well, fleet on the Cape. That's a pretty area. Eleanor, Hi, you're on wbc.
[00:28:18] Speaker E: Hi.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: Hi. Eleanor, you mentioned Hiram Brown.
[00:28:23] Speaker E: Do you remember mentioning that name earlier?
[00:28:25] Speaker C: Yes, I do. I said. I connected that with. He was the producer of the CBS Mystery Theater.
[00:28:31] Speaker E: Well, it brought back memories because I knew a Hyman Brown who was president of radio Keith Orpheum in Manhattan.
[00:28:40] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:28:41] Speaker E: But it wasn't the same one, was it?
[00:28:44] Speaker C: Boy, I don't know. The only connection I.
That I can remember with Hiram Brown was the fact that he was a producer on network radio shows. But then again, you know, maybe he started out that way or maybe later on he got into that after radio.
[00:29:00] Speaker E: Well, what happened was I was secretary to the vice president and general manager of radio, Keith Arthur in Manhattan, and he was president. And he was. Now that I think of it, I think he was a New Englander and he was very strict and upright.
And then after I left the bear and came back to Boston. I heard that he had gone out to Hollywood and went.
[00:29:31] Speaker C: Hollywood?
[00:29:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:29:33] Speaker E: And then I heard he had committed suicide.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
[00:29:37] Speaker E: When you mentioned him.
[00:29:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Now this, this CBS Mystery Theater was brought back maybe, Let me see, how long ago would that have been? Maybe 15 years ago. Oh, so you're, because you're talking about him committing suicide long before that.
[00:29:53] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:29:54] Speaker C: And a Hiram Brown was still around when that series was brought back on the CBS network.
[00:30:01] Speaker E: I wonder if it might have been a relation.
Could be.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: You don't find too many Hirams around these days.
No, no. Hiram does sound kind of like an old New England name, doesn't it?
[00:30:13] Speaker E: And it was, I think, although I didn't know where he came from.
[00:30:16] Speaker C: No, I, I, I don't really know anything about him except he'd been in the, in radio, in the, what was considered the golden days, the 30s, 40s and all of that. And then, and then Kate, then when they, they were trying to revive a little bit of drama on the network, brought him back with the, with the, the Mystery Theater.
So it sounds like this would be somebody different, although maybe related. I suppose that's possible.
[00:30:41] Speaker E: Right.
[00:30:42] Speaker C: We'll have to do some research on that. Ellen and I. You got me wondering.
[00:30:45] Speaker E: Yeah. That time was when the, the Keith, not the Keith Arthian, but the Keith Memorial opened.
I was working for them then and I came back to Boston and for the opening and of course I was gone.
[00:31:04] Speaker C: Are you talking about the Keith Memorial in Boston?
[00:31:06] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:31:07] Speaker C: No, the theater actually still exists.
[00:31:10] Speaker E: Yeah, I know that because I'm a boss. Well, I live in Walford, but I was born in Boston.
[00:31:15] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Because that became the Opera House, as I recall.
[00:31:22] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:31:22] Speaker C: And they tried, I guess they didn't do too much. I guess it's probably closed now. Unless I don't think we have opera going now.
[00:31:30] Speaker E: No.
[00:31:31] Speaker C: Yeah, but that was, they tried that as an opera house for a while and they were going to refurbish the play. It's one of those lovely old movie palaces that just went to seed.
[00:31:41] Speaker E: But imagine being there at the opening.
[00:31:44] Speaker C: Oh, that must have been something really dramatic.
[00:31:46] Speaker E: I can remember I bought a brand new raccoon coat.
You know, I was secretary to the vice president. I thought I was something.
[00:31:56] Speaker C: Oh, you bought a raccoon. You talking about the 20s now?
[00:31:59] Speaker E: And the 30s?
[00:32:01] Speaker C: 30s, okay.
[00:32:03] Speaker E: Actually it opened in 1928. 29.
[00:32:06] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I'm trying to think of the era of the raccoon coat. Was, was around then. Yeah. Isn't that, that's interesting. That was beautiful. There was the RKO Keith Memorial that you're talking about and the RKO Boston, which was across the street.
[00:32:20] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:32:21] Speaker C: Where they used to have the.
Yeah, right. That's right. And they had big bands later on. All the big bands used to play about four, five, six shows a day, along with the movies and everything.
[00:32:34] Speaker E: Before that, it was a regular theater. My father was a stagehand there.
[00:32:41] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that's all kind of broken up. It was broken up into little theaters at one point, and it was a Chinese theater show, Chinese movies.
But it doesn't exist at all. I don't believe any.
[00:32:53] Speaker E: No, I don't think so.
[00:32:54] Speaker F: No.
[00:32:55] Speaker E: Okay. Nom.
[00:32:56] Speaker C: Hey, thank you for calling, Eleanor. I appreciate hearing from you. Take care.
[00:32:59] Speaker E: Okay, Bye.
[00:33:01] Speaker C: Bye. And a hello from Higgins down in Charleston, South Carolina.
Hey, Higgins, can you hear me down there?
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[00:33:36] Speaker B: Cabaret won a music theater's classics winner
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[00:34:04] Speaker F: Good morning.
[00:34:05] Speaker C: Good morning.
[00:34:06] Speaker F: I enjoy hearing all these stories about what happened before Moby Dick was at Minnow.
It's a little before my time, but I appreciate it.
[00:34:14] Speaker C: Okay, good.
[00:34:15] Speaker F: Hey, in the. On the subject of DXING here and where your signal goes, the farthest I've ever gotten it as far as South.
South of the United States was Fort Myers Beach, Florida, on an $11 Walkman. And I figured.
[00:34:29] Speaker C: No, I'm kidding. Because. Because Fort Myers is on the.
On the. On the Gulf Coast. Yeah. The west side. No, that's the east side, isn't it?
[00:34:37] Speaker F: No, west. West side.
That's the west side.
[00:34:39] Speaker C: Okay. Anyway, that's the Gulf side. That's where the. The Red Sox are.
[00:34:42] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:34:43] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:34:43] Speaker C: No, we don't get. We don't get many calls from down that way at all. Isn't that interesting? We. We I got, I got, I've gotten a few calls from Bermuda. I don't know. That's, that's a distance away too, I guess, but.
[00:34:57] Speaker F: Well, it's about, about the same position as far as south. It's just a few miles in the other direction.
[00:35:02] Speaker C: Yeah, because usually in Florida, I mentioned, we, we, we come into Daytona beach every now and then, but that's on the other side and it kind of juts out the sea. So apparently our signal carries that way, but inland in that direction where Fort Myers is. That's unusual.
[00:35:18] Speaker F: But, you know, it's amazing. As I rolled over, I had my stereo on. I was listening to you on my big set. And then I said, well, you know, I'm going to try to go to sleep. I just hit my clock radio and just as I was trying to tune you in, I was having trouble getting you. I don't know what's coming in above you, but below you. 10, 10 out of new York. I was having trouble getting between you guys.
[00:35:40] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, that's, that's one of the Westinghouse stations too. That's W I N S in New York.
[00:35:45] Speaker F: Yeah, but it's, you know, at this time of year when the F points change and it's nice and clear, I mean, just bounces everywhere. You know, people say, oh, gee, we're getting stations from Chicago on our tv, on the cable. It's like, well, you know, you can get stations all over the United States on any AM radio.
[00:36:01] Speaker C: No, that's quite true. That's quite true. And sometimes we get out to farther, distant points, much farther away than sometimes a local town, you know, like the western part of Massachusetts that I mentioned or the Cape.
We get out better to Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana and places like that.
[00:36:22] Speaker F: It skips.
There was a disturbing trend that I was reading about last year in radio that there were companies that were buying the Clear Channel stations and knocking their license down so they could. Like there was a station in the Midwest that wanted to upgrade and there was a Clear channel somewhere else. And they just went in and bought the Clear Channel and shut them down at night so they could upgrade their transmitter.
[00:36:45] Speaker C: Oh, that's.
[00:36:46] Speaker F: Then they, then they end up spinning off the Clear Channel. So, you know, Clear Channel and, you know, theoretically the, as the price of licenses goes through the roof, you know, I think the days of Clear Channel may be gone.
Hopefully not.
[00:37:01] Speaker C: Well, there was, there was talk at one point about Clear Channel stations being gone and they're, you know, they're. And putting other stations on the same frequency. Which means you'd have to broadcast the different kinds of signals. So that didn't interfere with other stations on the same frequency.
So far that hasn't happened. We're still clear channel pretty much at night, although there are some stations at 10:30. But over in the western part of the country where we don't reach anyway, I think Wyoming is about the closest.
But anyway, the whole picture of radio is changing so much with the, and
[00:37:39] Speaker F: not for the better either.
[00:37:40] Speaker C: Well, the deregulation bothers me and I, and I say that at a station that has taken advantage of that by buying CBS network and whole lot of independent stations, including several here in Boston.
But I just like the idea of stations being able to compete with each other under different management.
So I think the deregulation is not a terribly good idea.
[00:38:06] Speaker F: My father had the foresight in 1976 when I was a radio head and I was doing a lot of college radio. Matter of fact, I'm coming out of retirement Sunday night to do my once a year radio with parents up in Lowell.
[00:38:20] Speaker C: Which, which station is wjul?
[00:38:23] Speaker F: I was the chief engineer there for.
[00:38:25] Speaker C: Is that, is that University of Massachusetts at Lowell or. Yep, okay.
[00:38:29] Speaker F: But my father had the insight in 1976 to say, you know, you know, forget radio. It's a bunch of people stabbing each other in the back for seven thousand dollar a year jobs. Well, and at the time it was, but now, when, now with the deregulation, you don't even, you know, they took it. So you didn't even need a chief engineer on stage staff. You could have a consultant. Now you get one ce, say you work for IRS in Boston. You get a tower in Burlington.
[00:38:55] Speaker C: Well, that's true. Well, you have to remember too, all over the world. Well, yeah, but one of the reasons for that too is I don't know whether people go on stabbing each other in the back. I, I really have been the victim of that or the, or the creator of that kind of a situation. But technically it's easier to operate equipment in a radio station now than right when I first got in. You really needed somebody technical to know what, what to do.
Now it's, it's like with, with lots of pieces of equipment.
It's all consolidated. It's easy. You press a few buttons here or there and you got it made. And the people on the air can do a lot of the kind of stuff that technical people used to have to do for them. So that's one of the reasons for that, really.
Anyway, let me get going, John, because We're getting into a technical area that a lot of people I don't think really know too much about. Or maybe you're not really care much.
Beth in Waltham. Hi, Beth.
[00:39:53] Speaker E: Hi, Norm.
[00:39:54] Speaker C: Wow, what a nice, soothing voice you have.
[00:39:56] Speaker E: Oh, I do. I have a little cold.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: A lot of people have got colds.
[00:40:01] Speaker E: I just wear a Levis. I'm a Frisian caller and I love listening to it.
[00:40:06] Speaker C: I'm sorry, say that first part again.
[00:40:08] Speaker E: I love listening to you.
[00:40:09] Speaker D: Oh, thank you.
[00:40:10] Speaker C: Oh, the first time caller is what you said.
Oh, thank you.
[00:40:13] Speaker E: But I have listened for a long time and I was one of the people that just thought you had the most wonderful mother in the world.
[00:40:21] Speaker C: Well, did you know my mother?
[00:40:22] Speaker E: I knew Books only from Fileen.
[00:40:25] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. My mother was Rose Nathan, who worked in the.
In the infants department at the lower of Filene's basement.
[00:40:33] Speaker E: That's right. I love my children. She used to put the little things aside for me and I used to go in there and she used to tell me all about you and your children.
She was just. Oh, she was so proud of you.
[00:40:44] Speaker C: She was a very lovely lady. I really miss her a lot. She's been gone for quite some time now, but. Yeah, she was. She was.
[00:40:52] Speaker E: She.
[00:40:52] Speaker C: I used to get embarrassed because I'd go down to see her in the. In the Philippines basement and as I was coming anywhere near her, she. She'd kind of yell out to, hey, here comes my son. You know, And I thought, please, mom, don't do that to me.
[00:41:09] Speaker E: I was there one day, she did it.
Oh, yeah. Everybody in the store, they called by their first neighbors. She was such a lovely lady. Yeah, she was always Mrs. Nathan.
[00:41:19] Speaker G: Oh, yeah.
[00:41:20] Speaker C: Well, yeah, she was Rose Nathan. For anybody who's wondering who happened to know her and who knows what we're talking about, she was just about lady. Yeah, she's. I'm glad, it's nice to hear you say that because I. I liked her a lot. I thought she was very, very special.
[00:41:34] Speaker E: She really was special. When you're children, it's too bad they didn't know her well.
[00:41:39] Speaker C: My oldest daughter, most of them. No, they both knew her.
[00:41:41] Speaker E: They knew her because they saw their picture.
[00:41:43] Speaker C: But. But the. Our oldest daughter knew her very well. As a matter of fact, they used to talk on the phone a lot. And my, My. My oldest daughter. Son used to. Used to confide in my mother or her grandmother, which was, I thought kind of unusual. More so than she did with with us, with my wife and I. Now they Had a. They had a lovely relationship. A lovely. I think my daughter felt her death more strongly than almost anybody in the family did.
[00:42:12] Speaker E: Oh, I think that's better.
[00:42:13] Speaker C: Yeah. No, they were. They were very, very close.
[00:42:15] Speaker E: She adored her son.
[00:42:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:17] Speaker E: And she told me about. She had pictures all the time to show me of the girl.
[00:42:21] Speaker C: Oh, she must have been so boring to a lot of people.
[00:42:23] Speaker E: Oh, no, she wasn't. She was wonderful. She was just a perfect lady.
[00:42:27] Speaker C: No, I think she was, too. Except, you know, when somebody keeps showing you pictures of their children and grandchildren, it begins to wear thin, I would think, after a while.
[00:42:36] Speaker E: Well, I had children there, too, so I was.
[00:42:40] Speaker C: Now, did you work with her there?
[00:42:41] Speaker E: No, I didn't. I just would go into shop.
[00:42:44] Speaker C: Oh, I see.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:42:46] Speaker E: So she always would say, oh, I have some wonderful things that just came in today. And she'd have them all, you know, put aside. And she was just. Everyone loved her.
[00:42:56] Speaker C: I know that there were a lot of people, whenever they. They were getting baby goods or whatever she was selling at the time, they.
They would never think about going to anybody else. They go to Rosie, Nathan. I know.
[00:43:08] Speaker E: No, no, I wouldn't go to anyone else.
[00:43:10] Speaker C: See, there you go. That's proof of what I just said, really.
[00:43:13] Speaker E: She was just a lovely, lovely woman. And you should be so proud.
[00:43:17] Speaker C: I. I am proud. And I. I liked her a whole lot.
[00:43:20] Speaker E: And she was proud of you.
[00:43:22] Speaker C: Hey, thanks a lot, Pat. That's nice of you to say all that. Thank you.
[00:43:25] Speaker E: Oh, thank you.
[00:43:26] Speaker C: Take care.
[00:43:27] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:43:27] Speaker E: Bye.
[00:43:28] Speaker C: Bye, Cambridge. Hello, Ed. Good morning.
[00:43:32] Speaker H: How you doing?
[00:43:33] Speaker C: I'm doing okay. You have a cold?
[00:43:35] Speaker H: Sort of. I don't know. I must have a permanent voice problem.
You know what I mean?
[00:43:40] Speaker C: No.
[00:43:41] Speaker H: Creepy voice.
[00:43:42] Speaker G: I don't have a cold, but it
[00:43:43] Speaker H: always sounds like I do.
[00:43:45] Speaker C: Okay, well, as long as you're not feeling badly, that's okay.
[00:43:48] Speaker H: I feel all right.
You know, I was gonna say, what was the farm stand now, about three weeks ago?
[00:43:53] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:43:54] Speaker H: And I was up early, but I didn't go over there. I know.
[00:43:56] Speaker G: I don't blame you.
[00:43:57] Speaker H: You go over there early because you're on the air that night or that morning.
[00:44:00] Speaker C: Yeah, I was there till about quarter to 10, you know, and considering it got off here at 5, it was, you know, it's getting kind of long. I would have liked to stay longer, but I just was.
[00:44:11] Speaker H: You know what I got a kick out of. Did you have a chance to see the head out while they were taking donations, I guess, you know, for Children's Hospital. Hospital, like A little brochure with mostly pictures about, you know, the 75 years. WBZ radio.
[00:44:23] Speaker C: Yes, I did see that. I glanced through it. Yeah, My picture was the only one.
[00:44:28] Speaker H: Take a big fat guess who had his picture in there. Three times.
[00:44:33] Speaker C: Three times, right.
[00:44:35] Speaker H: I think he must have been the same day at the same time, shirt and jacket on.
[00:44:40] Speaker C: No, I don't know. Who was that?
[00:44:42] Speaker H: Your friend who's on Monday through Friday when you're not on?
[00:44:44] Speaker C: Oh, Bob Raleigh.
[00:44:45] Speaker H: Yeah, I got a kick out of that. Three times. It was in there. I think he was the only one I was.
[00:44:50] Speaker C: Because I never did make that book.
[00:44:52] Speaker H: I know you didn't. I looked for you.
[00:44:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I wondered about that. If that was some kind of a secret message from the management.
[00:44:58] Speaker H: Yeah, right. A subtle hint.
[00:45:00] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe. I don't know.
[00:45:02] Speaker H: Subtle as a sledgehammer. Yeah, I quickly noticed who else wasn't in there too. Even the names. I mean, I felt badly When I was a kid, in about the eighth grade, you could turn the radio on at lunchtime. We came home for lunch at noontime, listen to the news. You knew what station you had on. I could like, give you the names of the men that were announcers at wnac. But you knew the voice right away.
[00:45:23] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:45:24] Speaker H: You know, Dave Rodman, Gus Saunders, so forth. Now, at your station I could rattle off the names at noontime. Vern Williams, Artie Amadon, Art Bob Wristling.
[00:45:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:45:36] Speaker H: Trying to think who else? Dick Tucker. Well, some of them were back and forth on Channel 4 when it came on the air too, but Dick Tucker, Lindy Miller and Street of Stewart. Yeah, none of them were mentioned in that book was. And they were, of course it was about radio. But some of them, a lot of them were both on radio.
[00:45:52] Speaker C: No, they were. No, all the ones you mentioned were in radio. Yeah, they might have done some television too, but they were basically were radio. I don't know. I don't know who put that together, but we'll go beat them up.
[00:46:04] Speaker H: Oh, was another one I saw in there.
Oh, yeah, I know. Now, some of them were unlabeled, you know, just like a montage of photos. Yes, and you just mentioned them a little while ago. I'm positive One of them was Alan Derry.
[00:46:17] Speaker C: Yes, he worked here. And Bill Marlowe worked here too, for that matter, for a while.
[00:46:21] Speaker H: Yeah, and I was trying to remember.
A couple of guys made the jump from the old W O R L. Norm Prescott.
[00:46:29] Speaker C: Norm Prescott was here. That's. Well, he went for.
[00:46:32] Speaker H: His picture was in there too.
[00:46:33] Speaker C: Yeah, Norm Prescott. Let me see. He was, he was here, he was at orl. He was also.
He was also WHDH at one time also. Yeah, Dave Maynard. Well, yeah, of course Dave Maynard was here for. Has been here for a very long, I think.
No, no, he wasn't.
[00:46:51] Speaker H: No, he was then two years ago.
[00:46:53] Speaker C: No, he wasn't at wrl. He was at.
It was the station out in Medford, they called it.
[00:46:58] Speaker H: Oh, WH I l.
WH I l.
[00:47:01] Speaker C: That's right, that's right. WH I l. Oh yeah, but.
[00:47:06] Speaker D: Oh yeah.
[00:47:06] Speaker H: Then I saw, without mentioning his name, how we get in there, I don't know. He's dead now, the poor fellow. But he was a sales business, sales manager at WBC Radio. He later went into real estate in Belmont, you know, but I mean I was surprised to see his picture. The poor guy had a full head of hair. He was about 25 years old.
[00:47:23] Speaker C: Now who is that?
[00:47:24] Speaker H: Harry Goodwin.
[00:47:27] Speaker C: I know the name.
[00:47:27] Speaker H: Married one of his daughters.
[00:47:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't, I. You know, he was on the, you
[00:47:31] Speaker H: know, the business side. What do they call public relations or sales and marketing. Yeah, I don't know how it get in there. I thought it was mostly going to be the on air personalities but I mean it was conspicuous by its absence. Yourself not there, you know, when you're right on the ear currently.
And then on the other side of the coin it was himself, as the Irish would say three times.
[00:47:53] Speaker C: Okay, okay.
[00:47:56] Speaker H: I was accused of being himself when
[00:47:57] Speaker G: I'd come in the house.
[00:47:58] Speaker H: It means Irish Americans say to their children, means self anointed importance. I'd walk through the door, my father would say it's himself, is it?
[00:48:08] Speaker C: Yeah, that's right.
[00:48:09] Speaker H: Trying to humble you right away.
[00:48:11] Speaker C: I know it.
[00:48:12] Speaker H: Hey, listen, that was nice about your mother. I mean I was listening to the caller I had.
[00:48:15] Speaker C: Oh yeah, it was nice. Every now and then I get a call from some woman who remembers her and I'm very flattered and I'm pleased about that.
[00:48:22] Speaker H: I know it's funny how there's so few people left in the more in business, retail business that make an impression on customers.
[00:48:30] Speaker C: Yeah, my mother was. Had very strong personality and if you met her once, you'd never forget.
[00:48:35] Speaker H: Yeah, that was good. You told about being embarrassed when she announced you. I used that word. You go to a restaurant and somebody hollows out your name. They mean well. And I say, gee, don't broadcast it coast to coast.
[00:48:44] Speaker C: Yeah, well, she would say, here comes my son. Hi, Norm. Norman, how are you? You know and come, let me introduce you. And it would be one of those things. And I said I just wanted to come in and see you. Mom, we don't have to. Please don'.
[00:48:56] Speaker H: But listen, I gotta go. But anyways, next year in that brochure, I hope the powers to be, if they're up this early, will put you in there.
[00:49:05] Speaker C: Okay, thanks. All right.
[00:49:06] Speaker H: See you later, buddy.
[00:49:07] Speaker C: Take care. Bye, buddy. Talk to you over the weekend. For tonight, for example, a couple Of World War II pilots and authors of a book called Amelia Earhart, Case Closed.
And what is being described as the definitive work on the subject of whatever happened to Amelia Earhart, who's a fascinating lady.
Her flight of no return occurred just about 60 years ago.
And also, Eleanor Valli.
Yes, she is related to Rudy Valli.
[00:49:39] Speaker G: Was.
[00:49:39] Speaker C: She's the widow of Rudy Valli.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: Man, it was chilly that October night. Such great talk and memories regarding Bill Marlowe. I'm still hoping to come across that all time classic commercial for Floramo's restaurant, voiced by Bill, which would end with. For those who are familiar with it, let's all say it together.
1, 2, 3. Where the meat falls off the bone.
Now I'm hungry. Closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it. 4. The mouth of the rat. Boca Raton. WCOP's top 40 show. Red Sox post season turmoil. Nice to see that some things never change.
Gus Saunders, WXHJ, WCAS, WJIB. Jack McDermott. Jack Cole. Bob Pawlente. Larry Justice. Seven Springs Ski Resorts.
Frost on the pumpkin. Indian summer. The great Jess Kane. Bob and Ray. Music of your life. Alan Derry. Chris Elliot, wlow Insomniacs.
The overnight hours. Carleton University.
Caressing gentle, soothing voices.
General Electric. Hiram Brown. CBS Mystery Theater. Old movie palaces. Raccoon coats. The RKO Keefe Memorial. The RKO Boston. The AD Expo. The Heinz Convention Center. The North Shore Music Theater. The fun of finding stations from around the country by scanning your AM radio dial.
Clear channel signals. Wjul.
Norm's mom, Rose Nathan. The infants Department at Filene's basement. The WBZ 75th anniversary leaflet.
Self anointed importance. Floramos, John Bertolucci. The melodious tones of Bill Marlowe and the he man, Dean of Boston Radio. Norm. Jim Nathan. I'm Tony Nesbitt.
[00:51:41] Speaker C: What am I talking about? I have no idea what I'm saying.
