Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Our first installment of 2024 is a dumb birthday game from January 1, 1994. Let's title it getting saucy with italian names. The players Julian Medford, Ginny from Burlington, Judy and Lynn. John Kelly producing and playing in studio. Aaron Sawyer in traffic. I'm on the phone and it's my first time playing that year.
[00:00:23] Speaker B: Hi o.
[00:00:24] Speaker A: The birthdays. Barry Goldwater, Frank Langella, Don Novello, J. D. Salinger and country Joe McDonald. We round out the game with some dates and history. In what year did Elizabeth Taylor announce she would be marrying actor Michael wilding? Hank Williams died on January 1. In what year? What year did President Abraham Lincoln sign the Emancipation Proclamation and the Ellis island immigration station opened? In what year? Episode 170. Getting saucy with italian names stirs its way to your ears now.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: Edford. Hi, Julie. Hello.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: Happy New Year.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Happy new year to you, too. It's first time you played this game. Second time. You're an old pro then.
[00:01:11] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a long time ago.
[00:01:12] Speaker D: Since I played the other.
[00:01:13] Speaker B: Well, I'm glad that you're back again.
[00:01:15] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: You're okay. We have to be back. We have Ginny also, who's out in Burlington. Hi, Ginny. Good morning, Mr. Nathan. I feel just so that important. You call me Norm if you want to. If it's uncomfortable for you, you can just call me Mr. Your majesty. That'd be okay, but Norm would be better.
Judy. We have Judy and Lynn. We have a panel composed mostly of women.
[00:01:42] Speaker C: Hi, Norm.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Hi, Judy. Nice to talk with you again. We just talked moments ago.
[00:01:46] Speaker C: I can't believe it.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Oh, I'm just so pleased that. There you are again.
[00:01:50] Speaker C: I'm having so much fun. I really am.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: You never thought that New Year's Eve could be like, right?
[00:01:56] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: Okay. We also have John Kelly, our producer. Hello, John. Hey. How are you? Hey. I'm okay. How are you? We've only been nice to see you. Kind of the crap. We've been working together for 3 hours and 50 minutes. I don't know.
[00:02:10] Speaker E: I'm just trying to sound awake here.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: I know that's kind of tough for you. It is. I know. Even during the daytime. I know that gets tough for you. We also have.
Let's see, Tony, we have Aaron Sawyers with us, too. Aaron. Hi. Hello.
[00:02:26] Speaker F: Hello.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: And you're excited about playing the game, too. I can tell by the enthusiasm that's dripping from your voice.
[00:02:32] Speaker F: It starts the new year off on the right foot.
[00:02:35] Speaker B: It really does. I think so. I think this is a nice way to do that. We do have Tony. Happy new year, Tony Nesbitt. Happy new year to you, young fella.
[00:02:42] Speaker D: It's my first time this year.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: That's right.
I remember at one time in school we'd have an assembly. Christmas assembly. Just before Christmas. Before the long vacation over the new year's.
[00:02:56] Speaker D: I thought you were going to surprise me, say it was just before Easter. You were having your Christmas with someone.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: Are we going to put up with this? Is this the way it's going to go during this entire thing? Anyway, the principal of the school, I remember in this case it was Mr. Gearin, who was the principal of the Fairfield Whitney School in Everett. He would come out and say, wish everybody a merry Christmas and all that, and would say, and I won't be seeing you again until next year.
We'd gasp and everything was, we figure, fine, next year. Where's he going? He must be going some far off land. Until we realized that next year was only a week away.
[00:03:38] Speaker D: Crazy kids.
[00:03:40] Speaker B: Every year we get trapped into that. You know why? Because we were pretty stupid.
We were probably among the dumbest people ever to go through the Everett school system. Okay, let's begin with Barry Goldwater, former senator from Arizona, presidential candidate.
[00:03:58] Speaker E: Grumpy old man that he is.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: Oh, I don't think he's grumpy at all.
I'm not conservative like he is, but I think he's an interesting, very interesting man.
[00:04:08] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:04:08] Speaker B: Julie, what do you think? How old? Think he's about 77. 77. We'll mark that down, Julie.
Okay. And Jenny, what do you think?
[00:04:18] Speaker C: Well, I think he's about 84.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: Okay. And what do you think, Dave?
[00:04:25] Speaker D: 63.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: 63. Boy, the ages are all over the.
[00:04:30] Speaker D: Lot, over the board, aren't they?
[00:04:32] Speaker B: Okay, Judy, what do you say?
[00:04:34] Speaker C: I'd say 76 trombones.
[00:04:39] Speaker E: That's the spirit.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Okay, John, what do you say?
[00:04:43] Speaker E: 73.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: And Tony?
[00:04:46] Speaker D: 85.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: 80 says Tony. And, Aaron, what do you think?
[00:04:51] Speaker F: I'm going to go with 72.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: 72, says Aaron. Well, Barry Goldwater is 85.
[00:04:59] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:05:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
Tony just. You knew that.
[00:05:03] Speaker D: Yes, I read that in the paper a couple of days ago. There was a little blurb on him. And he says, the 85 year old.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Whatever, he's an interesting man, despite being a conservative. He comes out with some very liberal thoughts, and he's very open minded about a whole lot of things that a guy of 85 would normally not be. It'd be kind of testy about that.
[00:05:24] Speaker E: Now, Norm, what year did he run? He ran for president in 1960.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: 419. 64 is right. Yes.
Against Lyndon Johnson in 64. That's right. Because in 68, Lyndon Johnson decided not to run. And that was the year that Kennedy was killed. Kennedy was killed. And also Eugene McCarthy was the candidate. And the whole war and the attitude toward the war in Vietnam was starting to turn around by then, which is why Lendon Johnson didn't run again, because there was so much resentment against the Vietnam war. So it'd been 64 anyway. Yes, that's correct. Okay.
Anyway, he's 85 and Tony wins the first crack at that. You're okay, Tony.
[00:06:10] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Frank Langella, who was in. What was that? Dracula. Dracula, that's right.
[00:06:16] Speaker E: No, he was in a movie called Love at First.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Was that was about Dracula, was it?
[00:06:24] Speaker D: That was George.
[00:06:25] Speaker E: George Hamilton.
[00:06:26] Speaker D: George the tan man Hamilton.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Okay. That's why we keep telling you, John, to shut up.
Okay, let's start with you, Aaron, what do you think? Frank Langella, how old do you think he is?
[00:06:40] Speaker D: Frank Langella, his only claim to fame, too, I think. That poor guy.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah, he was in the theater version. He was on stage with that and apparently made a very sexy vampire. I didn't see him in that, but a lot of it was an excellent film.
[00:06:55] Speaker D: It actually was, yeah.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: And also the play. Apparently he did well at that.
Frank Langella. It sounds like a dessert.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: Sounds good.
[00:07:07] Speaker E: I'll have the Frank Langella, please.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: I'd like. I'd like a little bit of whipped cream on my Langella and some hot fudge sauce, please. Right. And I'd like the cherry flavor. Thank you so much.
[00:07:18] Speaker F: And the calamari with dripping onions and everything.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Now you're being silly.
Now you're getting terrible.
[00:07:25] Speaker D: He's got something like mussels with lingella sauce or something like that.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: That would be good.
[00:07:30] Speaker D: Yeah, sounds good, doesn't it?
[00:07:32] Speaker B: So what do you think, Aaron?
[00:07:34] Speaker F: I'm going to have to go with 59.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: Going to have to do that.
[00:07:37] Speaker F: Way off base probably, but.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Well, don't be self conscious about that. You may not be way off base. Tony, what do you say?
[00:07:46] Speaker D: Some reason I have this feeling he's older.
[00:07:51] Speaker B: Older than 59?
[00:07:53] Speaker D: Yeah, it's kind of shocking. Like you're kidding me. He's 63. Like that. I'll say 63.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: 63. Okay.
And, John, what do you say?
[00:08:04] Speaker E: I'll say 61.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: 61. Okay. And, Judy?
[00:08:09] Speaker C: I'd say 57.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: 57.
And what do you think, Dave?
[00:08:15] Speaker D: I'm going to go way out and say 82.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Whoa. Wow. Way out there.
Okay. Ginny, what do you say?
[00:08:24] Speaker C: I think he's been around a while. He's a pretty good actor. I've seen him on the stage, I would say I want to try 56.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Okay, trying. 56 is good. Yeah, that's good. Julie, what do you say?
[00:08:39] Speaker C: How about 68?
[00:08:43] Speaker B: 68.
[00:08:44] Speaker C: I'm trying to picture him, but I can't picture him.
[00:08:46] Speaker B: He's hard to picture because he hasn't really done that many pictures.
[00:08:50] Speaker D: He's got a couple of long teeth, piercing eyes.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah, fangs. We call him fangs.
He goes to the dentist to have a fang canal or fangs cleaned or. I don't know. Anyway, he's 54.
[00:09:08] Speaker C: What?
[00:09:09] Speaker B: 54 years old. He's a lot younger than most of you have said.
[00:09:14] Speaker D: That's what I meant, Norm. I said the shocking part.
I meant the other way. He's younger than we all think he is.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: He is, actually.
And let's see, Jenny said 56, and so she was the closest within two years.
Yeah, nobody else came that close. Don Novella.
You all know Don Novella. Oh, he's greater, the comedian. He's father.
Guido Sarducci. That's right. Guido Sarducci.
[00:09:44] Speaker D: Wow. You ever have that with the Langella sauce?
[00:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah. You put a little novella, you mean on your. Yeah.
Okay, let's start with you, Dave. What do you think? How old do you think Donovella is?
[00:10:01] Speaker D: Okay, we'll try 37.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: 37 says Dave. And Julie says, how about 48?
That's what Judy says.
I couldn't set it better myself.
Well, we'll see. John Kelly, what do you say?
[00:10:20] Speaker E: I'll say squido Sarduci is 43.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: 43. Okay. And, Aaron, what do you think?
[00:10:32] Speaker F: I'm going to have to say that he's a 45.
[00:10:37] Speaker B: He's a 45. Okay.
And, Ginny, what do you say?
[00:10:48] Speaker C: 42.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: 42. And, Judy?
[00:10:51] Speaker C: I'd say 51.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: And what do you say, Tony?
[00:10:59] Speaker C: 45.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: 45 again, the same as what Aaron said.
Well, Guido Sarduci or Donovella is actually 51, which is exactly what Judy said.
[00:11:14] Speaker C: Awesome.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: Yeah, you are awesome.
[00:11:16] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: We've had a different winner each time. We've had Jenny and Judy each have one apiece. So does Tony as we go to JD Salinger, who wrote catcher in the rye and all that kind of stuff.
[00:11:30] Speaker E: I haven't seen him in a long time.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: He is a recluse. He lives with. Does he live in Vermont or something? I believe New Hampshire. And he occasionally comes out for an interview, like once every ten years or something like that. Yeah, he very rarely talks to anybody.
[00:11:47] Speaker E: What a great author, though. Catch her in the Rye.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: Catcher in the Rye.
[00:11:51] Speaker C: That's a long time ago now.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: He did. He wrote that many years ago? Yeah, just before the invention of movable type, something like that. Who knows?
[00:12:01] Speaker F: Is that a baseball book?
[00:12:03] Speaker B: No. The catcher on the ride. No, it's a book on bread.
Bread and booze.
[00:12:10] Speaker E: Who knows the name of the young man in that book? Just quick trivia. The young man, the protagonist.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: Yeah, the guy who was coming of age.
[00:12:18] Speaker D: Elmo Ferstein. What the hell is his name?
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Sidney Lefkowitz was not. His name was Holden Caulfield. Oh, that's right. Holden Caulfield. That's very good. Very good, John, thank you. No extra points for that. No, but just all our love and respect and admiration.
Ginny, what do you think? How old is JD Salinger?
[00:12:39] Speaker C: Let's try 70.
[00:12:42] Speaker B: We'll try 70. Okay.
[00:12:44] Speaker C: Probably a little young, but that's.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: Well, maybe. I don't know. Tony, what do you say?
[00:12:53] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, maybe he's 71 now.
[00:12:57] Speaker B: Maybe he's 71.
Okay, and Dave, what do you say?
[00:13:05] Speaker D: 75.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Dave says 75. And Julie says.
[00:13:10] Speaker C: And Julie says 80.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: Julie says 80. And Aaron says 66. 66.
And what do you say, John?
[00:13:22] Speaker E: I forgot who we were on Salinger.
66.
No, that was just guess. 64.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: 64.
That was just a guess. But 64 is kind of a definitive answer. Then that's different than a guess.
Yeah, never mind.
[00:13:44] Speaker F: More of a hypothesis than a guess.
[00:13:46] Speaker B: More than of a hypothesis and a triaconus.
More than a hypothesis.
[00:13:52] Speaker D: I think it was even a theory.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: It was a theory.
A theory.
Okay, Judy, what do you say? How old do you think JD Salinger is?
[00:14:04] Speaker C: I think he's 77.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: 77, okay. You probably know because the J in JD Salinger stands for Judy.
[00:14:12] Speaker C: That's right. That's it.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: And D stands for Dave from Foxborough. His name is Judy. Dave Salinger. I don't know how many people know that. Do any of you know his name, what the JD stands for?
I don't either.
Guess. I can't tell whether you're right or wrong. Fact is that JD Salinger on this very day is 75, which is what Dave said.
[00:14:37] Speaker D: All right.
[00:14:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So another one time winner.
[00:14:40] Speaker D: Get on the board.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Yeah, you got on the only. Well, there are three people who haven't gotten it yet. Julie, John and Aaron.
[00:14:52] Speaker F: Great company.
[00:14:54] Speaker C: Oh, yes, thanks.
No, nothing.
[00:14:57] Speaker E: I'm not trying, though.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: Do you know Country Joe McDonald?
The country singer? Obviously country singer, since he's called country Joe McDonald.
Anybody know him? Because I don't know him either. Do you know that name?
[00:15:15] Speaker C: No, never heard of him.
[00:15:19] Speaker F: I think he made his mark in the late thirty s with his wandering minstrel show.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: I think that could be, you know, the complete book that I have.
[00:15:28] Speaker D: Then he opened up a burger franchise later on.
[00:15:31] Speaker F: Yeah, right outside of 128, I think.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: He did.
He and Frank Langella, as a matter of fact.
[00:15:42] Speaker D: Anyway, Frank Langella used to be known as country Frank.
[00:15:47] Speaker F: Only in certain circles.
[00:15:48] Speaker E: Yeah, country Frank Langella or country count?
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Are you all true?
That was really sickening. Jenny, what do you say? How old is Country Joe McDonald? I guess we'll all be taking guesses because nobody seems to know who he is.
[00:16:04] Speaker E: Oh, I know who he is. Country Joe and the fish. He was at Woodstock.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that's correct. He was. That's true.
[00:16:10] Speaker E: He did the fish cheer. You know what that is, Norm?
[00:16:12] Speaker B: No, I don't.
[00:16:13] Speaker E: That was the gimme f.
You don't remember that?
[00:16:18] Speaker B: I don't remember that.
[00:16:19] Speaker E: I won't continue because it's obscene and vulgar and I'll probably.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Well, it's nice of you to bring it up, though.
[00:16:25] Speaker E: Anyway, it was the fish cheer.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: Okay. All right. And an obscene word.
[00:16:30] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: Okay. Jenny, how old do you think country Joe is?
[00:16:35] Speaker C: I met him this summer or recently.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Did you really?
[00:16:39] Speaker C: Yes.
He worked for the Vietnam War veterans and he's now kind of straightened up his act. And at the Vietnam Memorial for the nurses just in November, he was down in Washington and seemingly. I mean, I don't know of his early stuff. Well, so if he was at Woodstock, I would say probably 50. How about saying he's 55? Well, 53. A real serious 53.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: A real serious. Okay. A real serious 53. Sounds good. John Kelly, what do you say?
[00:17:15] Speaker E: I'll say he's a little younger than that. I'll say 46.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: 46.
Okay. And, Dave, what do you think?
[00:17:23] Speaker D: I'll go with 48.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: 48. And Tony?
[00:17:27] Speaker D: 54.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Tony says 54. And Aaron says I'm going to go down to 41.
41. Okay. Julie, what do you.
[00:17:37] Speaker C: And I'll say 50.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: Julie will say 50 and Judy will.
[00:17:41] Speaker C: Say Judy says 53.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: 53, the same as Jenny. And as a result, you both are the winners there. He's 52, so Jenny said 53.
[00:17:53] Speaker D: Anyone named country before the rest of their name has got to be in their 50s. So that's a good, logical way to figure that out.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Nobody said 51, although Julie said 50. So a lot of you came very close.
So we have Ginny and Judy both have two apiece now leading the pack.
[00:18:16] Speaker C: The pressure's on.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: That's right. I hope now that's about all the birthdays we have. So I'm going to give you events and you tell me the year they happened. Okay.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: Oh, God.
[00:18:28] Speaker B: Oh, God. Fresh is back on again.
[00:18:31] Speaker F: His birthday was last week, wasn't it?
[00:18:33] Speaker B: Oh, God, I believe so. Yes, I believe it was. I think it's December 6.
[00:18:38] Speaker F: Last week was December 6.
[00:18:41] Speaker E: Anyway, can I ask a question?
[00:18:43] Speaker B: You can ask a question, but don't expect to get a friendly answer.
[00:18:47] Speaker E: Just curious. How do you come up with the prizes that you send out?
[00:18:52] Speaker B: How do I come up with them? Where do I get the prizes?
[00:18:54] Speaker E: Sure.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: I rummage among desks. Empty desks. During the night? Not empty desks, I hope. Desk packed with stuff. And I steal things from the sales department and from the newsroom and places like that.
[00:19:06] Speaker E: So give us an example of a prize.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: An example of a prize.
[00:19:12] Speaker D: How about give us a date and we'll go on to the next?
[00:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. I think we'll do that. Yeah. Well, I can't tell the prizes. All I tell you is that they're.
[00:19:19] Speaker E: Curious about what people win.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Well, if you win, maybe one day I'll tell you. I can't.
[00:19:24] Speaker E: I work here.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Okay. Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Wilding were married on January 1. What year?
They actually weren't married. Actually. Elizabeth Taylor on January 1, announced that she would marry actor Michael Wilding, which was her. What number? You want to know? Is that the question? I think that was her.
[00:19:52] Speaker C: Was that his second?
[00:19:53] Speaker B: Yeah. First or second? Yeah. She's been married, what, eight times or something like that now? Something like eight, yeah. This was way back at the beginning. I think Mike Todd came after that, did he not? Who was the first person she married?
[00:20:09] Speaker C: Mickey Hilton.
[00:20:10] Speaker B: Hilton, that's right. That's right. It was Hilton and then Michael Wilde.
[00:20:16] Speaker E: Okay, I don't know any of these folks.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Aaron, let's start with you. Aaron, what year do you think that was?
[00:20:25] Speaker F: I probably wasn't even born yet, so I'm going to go with 51.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: 51. What year were you born?
[00:20:30] Speaker F: 67.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: Really? Yes. Is it 67 yet?
I didn't think we'd come to that yet. Okay, Tony, what do you say?
[00:20:40] Speaker D: I wasn't born yet either.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: I don't believe you were. That's true. No, I know you weren't born then. You're only twelve. How could you have been born then?
[00:20:52] Speaker D: Hubby number two.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah, he was the second one. And I don't know when they were married. This was just the announcement. She announced it on New Year's Day that year that she would marry this guy.
[00:21:08] Speaker D: 61.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: 61, okay, 1961. And John, you say what about 1957? Okay. And Judy?
[00:21:20] Speaker C: Okay, I'm going to go with the year I was born. How about 54?
[00:21:24] Speaker B: You were born in 1954. Judy, that is such a lovely age. Oh, God, you're not even 40 yet.
[00:21:30] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm going to be soon, though.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Does that bother you? No, it really shouldn't.
[00:21:36] Speaker C: No, it doesn't.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Was there a decade that bothered you? Like when you turned 30 or 20 or something?
[00:21:43] Speaker C: No, not really.
It's been good. Life has been good.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: That's a nice attitude.
Oh, God, Judy, I want you. I want you so bad. Okay, Dave, what year do you think that was?
[00:21:58] Speaker D: Before my time. So I'll have to guess. 1950.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: 619. 56. Appears to be before just about everybody's time. Okay. Except Judy's.
Jenny, what do you say?
[00:22:11] Speaker D: Not before my time.
[00:22:13] Speaker C: I would say 50.
[00:22:14] Speaker B: 219. 52.
Okay. And Julie?
[00:22:18] Speaker C: 52.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: You know something? You and Jenny are both correct. Right on the button. It was 1952.
You scored. Ginny now has three correct answers and leads.
[00:22:38] Speaker C: She's a smart one of the.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: Oh, well, Judy doesn't do too badly. She's got two of them. And so she get caught up.
[00:22:44] Speaker C: I got to catch up to.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: Oh, yes. And Aaron.
Snap out of it, will you, fella?
And you too, Kelly. You don't have anything either.
[00:22:57] Speaker E: Terrible.
[00:22:58] Speaker F: We're trying to make everyone else look.
[00:23:02] Speaker C: Shiny.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: You've got a great voice, Aaron.
You wanted to be a big time announcer. That's what you really want, isn't?
[00:23:11] Speaker F: Course, of course.
I kind of finagle around in the area on various stations.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Oh, do you.
Do you do record shows and all that kind of stuff too? Besides the traffic?
[00:23:22] Speaker F: Actually, no. Monster truck shows.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: Nice.
Let's go racing.
Look at this one. It's got nine wheels each, what, 7 miles wide?
[00:23:35] Speaker E: You know what he does? He goes out to clubs and does traffic reports.
[00:23:40] Speaker B: Well, I know he's got an album that should be out most any day now. It's the best of 1993 traffic reports.
[00:23:48] Speaker F: Actually, when I started here, Jack Hart told me about an incident that happens to him every time he goes to a family get together. And every time I get together with my family over the holidays the past week, they all wanted to talk to the guy who did traffic on BZ. It was just kind of weird that all these people and people I were related to wanted to talk to me. Only because I was doing traffic with.
[00:24:08] Speaker B: You, Norm, for one.
Goodness, Sam, you're getting to be a big star.
It's kind of funny. And I remember I would go home from my job at the station where I do the weather report, among other things, about 9 million times and other stuff. And my mother would always say, I think it's going to rain tonight. The radio man says it's going to rain. Say what radio man are you talking about? I said that was me. That's your baby. It was your little baby. That's me. It's kind of funny. You can say things on the air people take very seriously. And as soon as you tell it to them in person, and you're right, sitting there, especially if it's a relative, they don't figure you have any idea what you're talking about.
I don't know whether you found that to be so Aaron or not.
I don't want a kid to discuss it because it makes me sick in my stomach. Okay, here's an event. The death of Hank Williams.
He died. Let me see. Country star Hank Williams. He died on January 1 of a heart attack. I know this is not a pleasant thing, but, hey, we got to talk about unpleasant things, too. That's why we're adults. Died of a heart attack brought on by alcohol the year before. He'd been fired from the grand old Opry because of his drinking.
[00:25:24] Speaker E: He was very young.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Well, tell me how old he was then, not how old he was. What was the year that he died? Yeah, the year he died. And of course, Hank Williams Jr.
Picked up his legacy and goes on to this very day.
Maybe drinking, too.
[00:25:43] Speaker E: I don't at this moment, I want.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: To be like my dad. I want to drink a lot. Anyway. What year was Hank Williams die? Today was January 1, New Year's Day.
Are you there, John?
[00:26:02] Speaker E: Oh, you're asking me? I didn't know you were asking me.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Well, the hint was. The clue was when I mentioned your name.
I figured you'd pick it up at that point.
[00:26:13] Speaker E: This is drifting off.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: I see. And that's the way he produces this program.
[00:26:18] Speaker E: That would be a terrible thing to die on New Year's Day. Or maybe it'd be a wonderful.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: I don't care for your editorials. Just tell me the year it was. Okay.
[00:26:27] Speaker E: How about 1973?
[00:26:35] Speaker B: Okay. And, Julie, what do you say?
[00:26:38] Speaker C: How about 80? 1980.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: 1980, okay. And Jenny, who leads the pack? What do you think?
[00:26:47] Speaker C: 70.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: 319. 73.
Okay. And Tony, what do you say?
[00:26:54] Speaker D: 79.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: Okay, Dave, what do you say?
[00:27:00] Speaker D: I'll have to agree with Tony and say 1970.
[00:27:03] Speaker B: 919. 79 also. Okay, Judy?
[00:27:07] Speaker C: I'd say 1974.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Okay. Aaron?
[00:27:13] Speaker F: I'm going to go with 1964. And I think he was 53 when he died.
[00:27:17] Speaker B: I think you think he was 53. It's interesting you picked that number, because that was the year he'd actually died. 1953.
[00:27:28] Speaker F: Oh, I had it reversed.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:27:29] Speaker F: It was 53.
[00:27:30] Speaker B: He died.
[00:27:30] Speaker F: He was 64 when. That's what I meant to say. I'm dyslexic, Norm.
[00:27:37] Speaker C: I got to read his mind.
[00:27:41] Speaker B: He died in 1953.
[00:27:43] Speaker D: His son was really born at that time.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. He died. That's what it says here. 1953. And hear this. You could tell by the way that paper rattles. It's authentic. So that means Aaron Sawyer is now on this.
[00:27:57] Speaker D: He was nine. How many years off? Eleven years off.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: He was? Yeah, as a matter of fact. Yeah, that's right. He was eleven years off. But he's the closest everybody else guessed in the only 26 years off.
You said 79. Yes.
Julie said 1980, which made her 27 years off.
[00:28:26] Speaker C: Okay, that shows I didn't know him.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Okay, I got one more for you. That's a little more historic and a little more dramatic.
[00:28:34] Speaker D: Aaron got on the board. We didn't celebrate enough.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: No, that's right. Aaron did it. As a matter of fact, everybody's on the board except John Kelly. Wow.
[00:28:41] Speaker D: That's no surprise.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: But he knew that JD Salinger's catcher and the rye guy was holding Caulfield, so that should count for something.
Okay, Lincoln's emancipation proclamation.
That shouldn't be too hard. That shouldn't be too hard. Hold on a minute while I get the how.
[00:29:00] Speaker D: If you fell asleep in history all the time.
[00:29:03] Speaker F: Not me.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Oh, no.
On January 1. What year? President Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation, declaring that slaves in rebel states were free. And what year was that? We'll start with you, Julie. What do you think? What year?
[00:29:20] Speaker C: Oh, gee, I wouldn't even know. I wouldn't even take a guess on that.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: Oh, well, you can.
You know when the civil War was. You know when Lincoln was assassinated?
When he died. So it had to be, obviously, before he died. And it had to be as a result of the Civil War. And if you know what year that was, you can come fairly close to the year.
God, this program is so educational. I can't stand it.
[00:29:47] Speaker C: No, I'm just thinking.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: Oh, I see.
[00:29:51] Speaker C: 1890.
[00:29:52] Speaker B: 318. 93.
That's pretty good. Yeah.
43 years after Lincoln died, as a matter of fact, he left it in a package and said, do not open this until 40 years after I'm dead. Then I'll free the slaves at that time. But I don't want anybody to know this pending notification of next of kin or something.
[00:30:20] Speaker D: Capsule.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right.
[00:30:25] Speaker C: I wanted something to laugh.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: That's right. And the US constitution was established in 19, six, many years after the original founding fathers died, because they didn't want anybody to be identified. They didn't really believe in freedom. They didn't want to be identified with that. Anyway. Ginny, what year do you think.
[00:30:45] Speaker C: 1860.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: 318. 63.
Okay. And, Dave, what do you say?
[00:30:51] Speaker D: Let's say 1860.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: 518. 65.
Okay. Judy?
[00:30:58] Speaker C: 1860.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: Why is it when I say her name, I so much want to do my Carrie Grant invitation and nobody's.
[00:31:06] Speaker C: Go ahead, you can do it.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Nobody's even sure that Carrie Grant actually did say Joe Day? Jody. Jody.
[00:31:14] Speaker D: He only said it once, I believe.
[00:31:16] Speaker C: I love it.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: He just said, oh, Jodie.
I remember. Frank.
Frankie Fontaine. Remember the comic, Frankie Fontaine? I worked with him when he was just beginning. He was still in the service and he came up to. This was WMEX, the station I worked at at the time. We had a thing called the army talent parade or something like that.
[00:31:40] Speaker D: Also, you couldn't be stopped over there at just.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: We were just so wonderful. We had a big band. It was really quite a good show. Frankie Fontaine used to do imitations. You remember when personage would come out and they do a whole series of things?
He would come out.
Joe day. Joe Day. Why, she's dead. There's only one man could have done that. It's Peter Laurie. I did not do that. I didn't kill her. He would go on and on like that.
[00:32:10] Speaker F: Norm, I bet you do a dynamite bugs bunny.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: No, that's the only one. I don't do well, really? Yeah, I do all the others. Really swell.
[00:32:18] Speaker D: Were you trying to say, Aaron, that he kind of sounded a little like him there?
[00:32:22] Speaker B: Just a.
I'm trying to do Carrie.
[00:32:25] Speaker D: Grant, Peter Laurie and you get Bugs Bunny.
[00:32:27] Speaker B: I'm trying to brush off that insult which really stung me. Right to my. You pardon the expression, to my very roots. Anyway, John, what do you say? What year was the emancipation proclamation?
[00:32:40] Speaker D: Was that a play on words, Norm? By the way, how's that with the emancipation Ben roots?
[00:32:45] Speaker F: No, it wasn't a subliminal joke.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: It would have been kind of nice, though. I hadn't thought of it in that.
I hadn't. Tony, what do you think? What year do you think?
[00:32:54] Speaker E: Tony's a deep thinker.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: Tony's a deep thinker.
John, sometimes you come up with lines that I know you're going to find this impossible to feel. Here it goes. That make no sense at all.
[00:33:06] Speaker E: No, because he got that subliminal joke.
Subliminal pun.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: I see. Okay, Tony, what do you think? What year was it?
[00:33:15] Speaker D: Norman? Norman, Norman. 63.
[00:33:20] Speaker B: Hello there, Norman. Norman. Norman. Well, there's only man. One man could have killed him. It must have been Peter Lori or Bugs Bunny.
It was not me. I did not do that. I was eating a carrot. What the hell am I doing? I have no idea. Grown men. I'm starting to talk like John Kelly, for crying out. The next step is out the front door. Anyway. Aaron, Aaron, Aaron. What year was the emancipation Proclamation?
[00:33:50] Speaker F: The emancipation Proclamation? Sounds like a rap song, doesn't it? The emancipation. Anyway, 1876.
[00:33:55] Speaker B: Yeah. You could clap your hands. Answer.
Here's the proclamation. Clap on 1864. Okay. The year.
[00:34:05] Speaker D: What?
[00:34:05] Speaker F: 76.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: What did you say? 1876. Yeah. Okay, that's fair. Okay. Well, either way, you were totally wrong and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
[00:34:16] Speaker D: It was either 63 or 64, right?
[00:34:18] Speaker B: It was 63.
So we had three correct answers there. Ginny.
John, who finally made the scoreboard. Tony, who got a second correct answer?
Let me see. Jenny still has three.
Waited by four. That's absolutely four. I'm sorry, absolutely, that's right. Because Jenny gets 63. That made it four. So the winner of the tasteless, tacky prize.
[00:34:55] Speaker D: Tell us it was coming up. That it was the end.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: No, I was saying this is the last one. Didn't I say that?
No, that's about it. There's another one next week.
[00:35:08] Speaker D: You get surprised.
[00:35:09] Speaker B: Well, you know what? I forgot to bring in the new 1994 version of our birthday thing.
[00:35:18] Speaker D: Why don't you use last year's?
[00:35:20] Speaker B: Well, because I threw away the front part of.
[00:35:24] Speaker D: And that could be a problem.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: It could be, yeah. Because I was kind of cleaning out my mailbox.
Nobody really cares about this little confession, but I just love to clean up my mailbox. And you know something, Jenny, Julie and Judy. The only thing that would please me more is if you were watching me while I was cleaning up my mailbox.
[00:35:47] Speaker C: We weren't.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Know. I didn't know. I thought I was just pushing it a little bit, getting a little too know. I said, I hardly know them.
How can I just stand there kind of like cleaning out my mailbox while these beautiful women are looking.
[00:36:03] Speaker C: Can't we, Norm?
[00:36:05] Speaker F: You could opt to clean out their mailboxes.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: Oh, Lord.
[00:36:08] Speaker C: You wouldn't want to clean mine out.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Oh, yes, I would be.
Okay. Now, what was that? Was a question from. Who was that? Jenny?
[00:36:16] Speaker D: She sounded just so adorable.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: Judy. Was that Judy who asked the question.
[00:36:19] Speaker C: Can'T we play some more?
[00:36:21] Speaker B: She's addicted.
[00:36:22] Speaker C: So much fun.
[00:36:24] Speaker D: Mrs. Nathan, can't Normie play some?
[00:36:30] Speaker B: Can you come out and play? Or was this was a day that had not too many people born or anything make one up make one up. Let me see. It was the year that Sidney Zelboc went over Niagara Falls in a folding beach chair. What year was that?
[00:36:50] Speaker F: He never made that trip again.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: Oh, he never did. Poor about. I'll give you some others just for fun. If you want to, just yell out dates. Okay, but you want this to be official?
[00:37:03] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: Okay, we'll do one more then.
[00:37:07] Speaker C: All right.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: What the heck. What the heck. I mean, it is New Year's day. It is a time for whoopee doing.
[00:37:13] Speaker C: We have nothing else to do. That's right.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: How about the Ellis island immigration station, where many immigrants came to this country?
Ellis island off called.
I guess it's a tourist attraction now. It hasn't been an immigrant station for a while. What year did that open? It opened on January 1 also. But what year was that transfer station way back when. That's where immigrants came in and they were checked. And if they had some disease, they were put on the boat and set back. It was.
[00:37:46] Speaker D: Or if they had a name they couldn't pronounce, they dropped.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: And then maybe you had they become Nathan or Nesbitt or some phony name like that. That's right. No, actually, my grandfather was already named Nathan by the time I think they changed it in England. But his name before that was Marshall.
I made that up. Okay. Anyway, what year was that the immigration station opened? We'll start with you, Aaron. What year do you think?
[00:38:18] Speaker F: Oh, boy.
[00:38:20] Speaker B: It wasn't an operation too very long, I can give you that clue.
[00:38:29] Speaker F: 1948.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: Opened in 1948.
Okay.
What do you think, Tony?
[00:38:40] Speaker D: Did you just ask me?
[00:38:42] Speaker B: I asked you, Tony, yes.
[00:38:49] Speaker D: And it wasn't open long, you say? Eh?
[00:38:52] Speaker B: Well, no, I mean, not when you hear of Alice island and immigration station. You think it was open linglog for 100 years or something. It wasn't that long. No, it was shorter than 100 years. But I can't tell you exactly. I can tell you, but I won't write.
[00:39:06] Speaker D: It's still open today, as a matter of fact.
[00:39:08] Speaker B: Well, it's a tourist thing. The immigrants don't go there. It's not used as an immigration station anymore.
[00:39:13] Speaker D: No.
Thank you for that bit of history.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a museum and all that kind of stuff. And people go to see where many of their ancestors came from when they came into this country.
[00:39:25] Speaker D: You do tours there on your.
[00:39:27] Speaker B: I do. On the off season, I hunt mink. And I do that when I'm not doing exercise to keep myself in shape for the baseball season.
[00:39:38] Speaker D: You kind of give the tour like Bonnie Hunt did in the movie, Dave. And we're walking. We're walking.
[00:39:46] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:39:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: That's a funny movie.
[00:39:50] Speaker D: All right.
No, this is when it opened. Okay. 1928.
[00:39:59] Speaker B: Okay. John, what do you think?
[00:40:01] Speaker E: Well, I think it opened a lot earlier. I'd say 1886.
[00:40:10] Speaker D: That's right. I think I want to change my answer.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Go ahead.
Do you really want to?
[00:40:16] Speaker D: Yeah, I think I do.
[00:40:17] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:40:18] Speaker D: Oh, boy. Wait a minute.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: And, Aaron, if you want to change your.
[00:40:23] Speaker D: I do want to change my answer.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:40:25] Speaker D: It's 18.
1890.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: 118. 91.
[00:40:38] Speaker E: Where in proximity to Ellis island is the Statue of Liberty? That's on Governor's island, right.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: It's now called Liberty Island. I believe they changed it. I think it's not far away. No, it's in New York Harbor. New York, New Jersey, that area. What do you think, Aaron? You want to keep yours as long as I let them change theirs? If you want to, you don't have to.
[00:41:01] Speaker F: I'm going to go with my original guess for the Emancipation Proclamation.
[00:41:06] Speaker B: And. Proclamation. There you go. 1876. Yes, please. Okay. And, Judy? What do you think?
[00:41:12] Speaker C: I'm going to go with 19.
[00:41:14] Speaker B: 619. Six. Okay. Dave?
[00:41:18] Speaker D: Frankly, I'm not sure, but I'll say 19. Seven.
[00:41:23] Speaker B: Jenny?
[00:41:27] Speaker C: 1880.
[00:41:29] Speaker B: Pardon me?
[00:41:30] Speaker C: 1880.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: 1880, okay. And what do you think, Julie?
[00:41:35] Speaker C: 1910.
[00:41:39] Speaker B: Okay. The year was 1892. Tony said 1891.
[00:41:44] Speaker D: I remember that because they refurbished it and opened it and they celebrated 100 years. I wasn't sure if it's 91 or 92.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: It's interesting. There was a man, the guy who wrote the series on the immigrants, it was a three or four part series of three books or something he wrote about. I guess it was based primarily in an italian family that had come over here. And he mentioned they had come here in 1889 or something like that.
And they stopped at Ellis island. And I interviewed the author and I can't think of what his name is anyway.
[00:42:22] Speaker E: Not John Jakes.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: No, I remember interviewing him. He was in town with his wife and promoting the first of the. I think it was a trilogy. And I said.
I was trying to be very polite. I hate to say this to you, but you had the family coming over in 1888 and stopping Alice island at the immigration station. And the immigration station didn't open till 1892. I knew that because I checked on my own grandfather who came to this country in the. Remember, wondering where he had landed. Because I knew he came over before Ellis island was open. Anyway, I thought I was going to embarrass the Author, but I was trying to be very polite about his misinformation and he said, you see that, honey? Those people checking the facts at the publishing house, they don't even know what they're doing. And he never took any of the blame at all. He blamed it on some proofreader. I couldn't believe that. I thought, what kind of a writer is he? Never even checked it out himself. Anyway, so I hit him in the mouth, broke his nose, and it was really beautiful because his nose was in his mouth. That's why. But anyway, let me see what we've got now. We get Tony's got. That was his three correct answers. But Jenny still leads the pack with four. And Judy did well with two, and Julie did one. You did one and Jenny did.
[00:43:51] Speaker C: At least I did one.
[00:43:53] Speaker B: I said, jenny leads with four, Dave has one and Judy has two. And John has one. And Tony has two and Aaron has one.
[00:44:08] Speaker D: Having fun, Norm?
[00:44:11] Speaker B: I'm having fun sitting here just to play it alone with myself. If you pardon the expression, it is a holiday, so what the heck, we can say dirty anyway. Good.
Anyway, I want to thank all of you for taking part. This was kind of fun. I enjoyed that very much.
And if you would hold on, Jenny. And you'll talk to John Kelly. That's the only punishment. We'll meet her up and then he'll take your name and address, and I'll send something really tacky and worthless and tasteless to you. Okay?
[00:44:43] Speaker C: All right. Thank you.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: And I want you, every time you look at a tasteless, tacky thing, I want you to think of me. Would you?
[00:44:50] Speaker C: All right.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: I think I'm falling in love. Okay. Hey, Julie.
[00:44:56] Speaker C: Yes, dear?
[00:44:57] Speaker B: Thank you very much for playing with us. You're okay. I appreciate it. Yeah.
[00:45:00] Speaker C: I'm looking at your picture while I'm talking to you.
[00:45:03] Speaker B: That's too bad.
Okay.
Very best. Happy New Year to you.
[00:45:09] Speaker C: Okay, happy New Year.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Thank you. Bye bye. And happy New Year to you too, Dave.
[00:45:13] Speaker D: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: Okay. I appreciate having you with us.
You're a nice person and I thank you very much. Have a great year.
[00:45:21] Speaker D: Okay, you too.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: Thank you. And let's see, Judy, thank you very much.
[00:45:27] Speaker C: Thank you, Norm. I'm having a wonderful year.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: Thank you. You too. Take care. And let's see, Tony.
[00:45:36] Speaker D: Norm, I need to speak with you off the.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: Yeah, okay.
[00:45:41] Speaker D: Would you like me to call back or do you have a few seconds?
[00:45:43] Speaker B: Well, let me see. Let me put you up on.
Cut me off. No, let me see. Hold on a minute. See if I can hold you just 1 minute.
No, why don't you call me back during the.
[00:45:58] Speaker C: You can punch.
[00:45:58] Speaker D: You know what you can do?
People are listening, saying, listen to them. Instruct them. You know the phone bank you got there in the studio? Yeah. Press down line five. Make sure you take the phone off. So, like, you're going to make a call?
[00:46:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:12] Speaker D: And then you can kill me on the screen. That sounds violent. And then put me on hold on the phone back.
[00:46:21] Speaker B: Are you still there?
[00:46:22] Speaker D: I'm still here.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: You didn't kill me.
I'm going to kill you off the screen.
Oh, I didn't give him a chance to say goodbye.
I think I killed him on the phone bank, too. I never been very good at that. You know that. Aaron. Hey, Aaron. Thank you very much for playing the game. We'll get another report from you in a few minutes, okay?
[00:46:42] Speaker F: Thank you for having me, Norm.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: Hey, my pleasure, jeekers. Okay. And I thank John Kelly, who's not getting the information from Ginny. And anyway, thanks to a lot of you without just the swell game. Anyway, two 5410 30 is a phone number and we'll take some more calls as we go through the night.
[00:47:01] Speaker A: Please click the link below and consider supporting the show on Patreon. Happy new year, and we'll see you next week. Closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it for Mr. Garen, principal of the Fairfield Whitney school in Everett. Judy. Dave Salinger, Holden Caulfield. Notification of next of kin. The Lincoln time capsule. Frankie Fontaine, Cary Grant, WMEx, and the army talent scout parade. Being stung to your roots. The emancipation proclamation. Bugs bunny. Tasteless, tacky prizes. Sales department desk. Rummaging and theft. Watching Norm clean out his mailbox. Sydney Zalbovitz, his folding beach chair and Niagara falls Ellis island offseason. Routines of hunting mink and getting in shape for baseball. John Kelly, Aaron Sawyer, and his hit album, the best of 1993. Traffic reports and your majesty. Norm Nathan. I'm Tony Nesbitt.
