Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: You're back. So happy you all are here.
This week marks the 30th anniversary of Norm's passing on October 29, 1996. A night and a phone call. I will never forget. Every year I like to mention how long it took me to even listen to a single tape. If it wasn't a decade, it was darn close. And even then, it was one cassette here and there. It was always so very emotional.
Not only because I love Norm, but for other associated circumstances that I'm not going to get into here.
Finally, I knew I had to honor him and our relationship by starting the vault of silliness.
311 episodes and six years later, here we are speaking of the 311th episode. This is a dumb birthday game from October 30, 1994, which shall be titled the Chief of Comedy. The Players, the one and only Robert from Everett. David in East Boston. Marge from Brighton. Brian McKinley, producing and playing in studio. And Ken Newman in Traffic. The Birthdays, Henry Winkler, Harry Hamlin. Then we hear about some dead birthdays. John Adams, Ruth Gordon, Admiral William Halsey and Charles Atlas. We move to October 31st for Jane Pauley, Dan Rather, Dale Evans and Michael Collins.
Two events in history. Orson Welles made his the War of the Worlds broadcast in what year?
And what year was the first?
For lack of a better term, homemade TV transmission seen in London, England. Yeah, that's a good one. Post game, we get some jack traffic reads for Dunkin Donuts and the movie Bugsy on NBC.
And three calls, Paul, plus two others whose identities will remain anonymous. Episode 311, the Chief of Comedy dances its way to your ears now.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: I'm doing okay.
[00:02:01] Speaker C: How are you doing, Robert?
[00:02:02] Speaker D: It's the first time I played the dumb birthday game.
[00:02:04] Speaker C: No, I think you played once before. I think you had played before months ago. Well, you said it's the first time you played it, so. You lied to us again.
[00:02:11] Speaker D: Well, you. All actors lie. You know that.
[00:02:14] Speaker E: No, he's an actor.
[00:02:16] Speaker C: All actors. He's an actor.
[00:02:18] Speaker E: No, he's an actor.
[00:02:19] Speaker C: Yeah. To you, you may be an act. To your wife, you may be an actor, but to an actor, you're not an actor.
[00:02:24] Speaker D: I pretend. Okay?
[00:02:25] Speaker C: Okay. David in East Boston is going to play the game with us also. Hi, David.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Hey. Good evening, Norm.
[00:02:30] Speaker C: I imagine the adrenaline is flowing. You're ready to swing.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: You bet I am.
[00:02:35] Speaker C: I like that. Determination.
[00:02:37] Speaker D: You're.
[00:02:37] Speaker C: You're okay. We have Marge in Marge in Brighton. Marge is going to be the only woman on the panel surrounded by some Gritty, good looking guys.
[00:02:46] Speaker D: Marge.
[00:02:47] Speaker F: Oh, wow. That's all right.
[00:02:49] Speaker C: Isn't that pretty good?
[00:02:50] Speaker F: Yeah, that's great.
[00:02:50] Speaker C: Did you pay your stag fee?
[00:02:52] Speaker F: No, I didn't. I didn't pay any fees.
[00:02:54] Speaker C: No, actually we should pay you because.
Because otherwise we wouldn't have any women at all if it weren't for you.
[00:03:00] Speaker D: You little.
[00:03:01] Speaker F: Take it. I'll take it. Yep.
[00:03:02] Speaker C: Okay. We also have Brian McKinley, our producer who's playing the game with us too. I am here.
[00:03:08] Speaker E: Of course. We all have our Halloween masks on. That's why we're so good looking.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:03:15] Speaker C: Oh my.
And also we have of course Ken Newman, who's the WBC 20.
Oh, sorry.
[00:03:26] Speaker E: No, no, I didn't belch.
[00:03:27] Speaker G: Some Halloween.
[00:03:29] Speaker E: I was doing it spooky.
[00:03:30] Speaker C: I was going Ken Newman.
Well, it sounded like some kind of stomach ailment.
Oh, that's just awful. I'm.
[00:03:38] Speaker D: I'm.
[00:03:38] Speaker C: I'm putting aside my plate. I can't continue. I can't continue eating my.
My midnight snack or whatever time it is. Anyway, Ken, it's.
You're all set to go too. And that's exciting.
[00:03:50] Speaker D: Ready to go.
[00:03:51] Speaker G: As you know, this is my first time birthday game.
[00:03:55] Speaker C: Yeah, sure.
[00:03:55] Speaker G: No, that was acting. I'm acting.
[00:03:57] Speaker C: Oh, I see. I thought maybe 24 was he. Yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker E: Run on by.
[00:04:03] Speaker C: No, I don't, I don't. I've forgotten his name. Did you? But he really acted the news. I thought that was great. I wondered if he was in wearing a Halloween costume and waving his arms and you know, in a spotlight while he did the news.
He'll probably be back on at 4 o' clock, but maybe get a chance to hear him again.
[00:04:20] Speaker E: I'll do it again.
[00:04:21] Speaker C: That'll be kind of nice. Yeah. Okay. The. Today is Sunday, of course. October 30th, as we say, the penultimate day of October.
[00:04:30] Speaker G: It's actually Monday though, technically, isn't it?
[00:04:33] Speaker C: No, Monday is the last day of October. This is the penultimate. This is the next of the last day in October.
[00:04:38] Speaker G: Yeah, I was getting my day screwed up because that whole time thing threw me off.
[00:04:42] Speaker C: I know you thought your traffic guys are kind of dumb. You probably thought we were not just turning the clock back an hour, but turning the date, the calendar back a whole day.
[00:04:51] Speaker G: Yeah, I turned everything back.
[00:04:52] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. I thought. I'd imagine you're still working on Saturday right now. I'm working on. I'm working on September. I turned the whole month back and the year back. Yeah, that's. I did it's September 1993. Whatever. Whatever that was. Anyway, today's the birthday of Henry Winkler, who went to Emerson, so there's a local connection there. But although he's born in New York, New York City, his parents were refugees from Nazi Germany and they wanted him to join the State Department.
Instead, he ended up with a master's degree from Yale University School of Drama.
Doesn't mention Emerson College here, but I know he went there. He's most famous for his appearance as the Fonz on Happy Days, which was so unlike any character he's played since. Or his own character. I mean, when you think of it, he is five six.
Why do they have that in here?
He's five six, likes to dance, likes to walk along the seashore, save shells.
And has a pickup truck with a gun rack in the back.
And likes girls whose initials are E, E, B.
Now it just says he is 5 6. He produced MacGyver for seven seasons. And he directed the film Cop and a Half. And he's been in a number of movies, I think, all of which are bombed. I don't think he's been in any.
[00:06:17] Speaker E: Sadly enough. I think this is the Fonz was his peak. The pinnacle of his career was the Fonz.
[00:06:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:24] Speaker E: So it's all been downhill for the Fonz since then.
[00:06:26] Speaker C: Hey, hey, Fonz.
Okay, Henry. Henry. Henry Winkler, then. And we'll guess how old he is today. What do you think, Robert?
[00:06:34] Speaker D: Oh, he's only. He's a baby.
He's a youngster. A youngster?
[00:06:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Could you put that in terms of an age, if you would, please?
[00:06:41] Speaker D: Well, he's about 40. 44. I'd give him 44.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: You'd give him. Okay. What do you think, David?
[00:06:49] Speaker B: I'll go with 45.
[00:06:52] Speaker C: 45. Okay. And the lovely and exciting and irresistible Madge.
What do you think, Madge?
[00:07:01] Speaker F: Well, I think that's pretty good. I think he's about 56.
[00:07:05] Speaker C: 56?
[00:07:06] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: Okay. And what do you think, Brian?
[00:07:09] Speaker E: I think he's 48.
[00:07:12] Speaker C: 48 says Brian. And Ken says 49.
[00:07:16] Speaker G: That's my.
[00:07:17] Speaker C: Exactly right. Oh, that was just a guess. But did you know?
[00:07:22] Speaker G: No, actually, I was just gonna go one year higher than the person who went before me. So if I. If I had gone earlier, I probably would have said like 45.
[00:07:30] Speaker C: Well, he's 49. You all guessed pretty closely. Madge was the only one who guessed older than he was. But you weren't that far off. Except if you're 49. I don't think you like to be known as somebody 56.
How about Harry Hamlin? Do you know that name?
[00:07:46] Speaker G: Oh, he's on la.
[00:07:47] Speaker C: LA Law. That's right. Harry Hamlin is on LA Law.
And we'll start with you, Ken.
He's the. Which character? I forgot which character. I can picture him.
[00:07:57] Speaker G: He's the guy who looks like he always needs to shave.
[00:08:00] Speaker F: He paid.
[00:08:00] Speaker E: He played a lawyer.
[00:08:02] Speaker B: Yeah, stated the girl from the Partridge
[00:08:04] Speaker D: Family on the show.
[00:08:05] Speaker G: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:08:06] Speaker C: Well, he played a lawyer.
[00:08:09] Speaker E: I don't know.
[00:08:11] Speaker C: And it's all about office.
[00:08:13] Speaker G: Pretty safe bet that he played a lawyer.
[00:08:15] Speaker E: Sorry.
[00:08:16] Speaker C: Okay, Ken, what do you think?
[00:08:18] Speaker G: I'll say he's 40, 40s.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: That's in the form of a question. Okay.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:26] Speaker G: Just so if I'm way off, I don't sound, you know.
[00:08:28] Speaker C: You don't want to sound too positive and make, you know, then fall in your face. I see.
Brian, what do you think?
[00:08:37] Speaker E: 42.
[00:08:38] Speaker C: 42.
Okay. Marge, what do you say?
[00:08:41] Speaker F: Oh, I'll say he's about 49.
[00:08:45] Speaker C: 49, sure. Okay, David, I'll say 39.
You'll say what?
[00:08:53] Speaker B: 39.
[00:08:54] Speaker C: 30, you'll say.
David, you know, says 39.
So I'll mark down, you know, you see, 39.
I think I'm getting tired of that limitation, aren't you? I think everybody is. And the more I do it, the less convincing it becomes.
But I appreciate the chance to do it, David, and you were very kind.
Otherwise, your guess probably was gonna be 72.
Robert, what do you think? How old is Harry Himler?
[00:09:24] Speaker D: He's 51.
[00:09:25] Speaker C: 51. Says the very exciting actor and comedian. Hilarious comedian. Robert says 51. He's actually.
Harry Hamlin is 43.
So I would say Brian, who said 42. That would be me, would be. Would be the closest. That's you, Brian. 42. Okay, so Brian has won. Ken was yesterday, too. He went to the traffic fella. Jack Hart.
[00:09:53] Speaker E: Jack and I tied again.
[00:09:55] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. He was the.
[00:09:57] Speaker E: It's the clash of the WBZ employees.
[00:10:00] Speaker C: Yeah, the clash of the giants. The giant intellects here, you know, that's it for October 30th.
[00:10:09] Speaker E: There was only two.
[00:10:11] Speaker C: Well, there were some others, but they were lesser known than these people. And a lot of people were born on this day who were dead. I didn't. I feel somehow that we ought to guess their ages.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Really.
[00:10:20] Speaker E: I mean, really famous people that you would know that.
[00:10:23] Speaker C: Well, how about John Adams, the former president? Ruth Gordon was born on this day.
[00:10:30] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:10:30] Speaker C: William Halsey, Admiral Halsey, World war hero.
Charles Atlas man who's very much of a Norm Nathan look alike.
I mean, looking at his
[00:10:44] Speaker D: Norm Nathan look alike.
[00:10:45] Speaker C: Yeah, I look at it as I look. To me, looking at Charles Atlas, even his pictures is to me like looking into a mirror.
[00:10:52] Speaker D: That's right.
[00:10:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
I'm flexing now. If you were here watching me.
[00:10:58] Speaker D: If you.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: It's not funny.
[00:11:00] Speaker C: If you were here now and you were watching me.
[00:11:02] Speaker D: You break me up every time you. You tickle me. You.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: I don't know why you did.
[00:11:08] Speaker E: He wasn't touching you.
[00:11:11] Speaker C: I am.
[00:11:11] Speaker D: I'm.
[00:11:12] Speaker C: I'm phony. Funny.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: I'm phony.
[00:11:13] Speaker C: I'm a funny guy. Oh, I'm funny. I'm a funny guy.
So we'll go to Monday, October 31st. Okay. And there's many people, many well known people were born on that day. And since we won't be playing the dumb birthday game on that day, we can do that.
We can use them right now. That's right. Nothing wrong with that.
[00:11:32] Speaker G: There isn't?
[00:11:32] Speaker C: No. Nothing wrong with that. Jane Pauley from Indianapolis xt. Today show hostess.
It says here, Real Life with Jane Paul. She's done a lot of specials for NBC.
She's married to Gary Trudeau, of course. Of.
I was gonna say Bloomsbury. It's not Bloomsbury.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Is it?
[00:11:57] Speaker C: Doonesbury. Doonesbury. That's Bloom County. I think I was thinking Bloom country or something, which is on a hiatus now also as well. Never mind. Anyway, Jane Pauly.
Well, let's see, we'll start with you, March. How old do you think Jane Pauley is?
[00:12:13] Speaker F: Oh, I think Jane is 43.
[00:12:16] Speaker C: Okay. And Robert, what do you think?
[00:12:18] Speaker D: 44.
[00:12:20] Speaker C: Robert says 44 and Brian says
[00:12:25] Speaker E: 45.
[00:12:26] Speaker C: 45. And David, I'll go with 42. 42.
Ken?
[00:12:34] Speaker G: Let's see. Norman, I'm gonna go with about 46.
[00:12:37] Speaker C: 46, okay. You're all very close. Actually, she's 44, which is what Robert said.
[00:12:42] Speaker D: Hey, I'm a winner.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: Well, that's.
[00:12:45] Speaker D: That's.
[00:12:46] Speaker C: That's funny.
You're winning.
[00:12:49] Speaker D: How about a lock of your hair?
I'll send you all of it.
[00:12:54] Speaker C: Anyway.
Anyway, how about the UPS truck will be by your house within the hour?
[00:13:02] Speaker D: No, I. That's my hobby. I shave locks of hair.
[00:13:05] Speaker C: Locks of hair. Do you have any. Do you have any pretty fascinating locks of hair that you have?
[00:13:09] Speaker D: Lily Saints here and Harvey Keck.
[00:13:14] Speaker C: Harvey Keck, Yeah.
[00:13:16] Speaker D: Well, he. He was a big star before our time.
[00:13:19] Speaker C: Harvey Keck.
[00:13:20] Speaker G: How'd you manage to get a hold of his hair?
[00:13:22] Speaker D: I don't know, somebody left it to me.
[00:13:24] Speaker C: I was Will to you. And some. Somebody's will.
[00:13:27] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:13:31] Speaker C: That's funny. That's funny.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: Also, born on Monday. You don't mind if I just slop right over? Whatever you say, sir.
[00:13:39] Speaker D: Go ahead.
[00:13:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:40] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:13:41] Speaker C: Dan Rather was born on October 31.
So his birthday will be, obviously, Monday. CBS anchorman and the host of 48 hours and very distinguished kind of. Kind of guy. I suppose maybe he's not. Anyway, we'll start with you, Brian. How old do you think Dan Rather will be on Monday?
[00:14:02] Speaker E: Dan Rather will be.
[00:14:07] Speaker C: Jeez, 59. 59 years of age. And you're probably wondering where he was born. I think probably everybody knows because he's got a Texas accent.
He was born in Methuen.
Now, let's see, what time was he born? And I'm just sort of checking that out.
October 31st.
Isn't that funny? I don't even see his name on the list. Where'd I get. Oh, yeah, yeah. He was born in Wharton. Wharton, Texas.
[00:14:38] Speaker G: It sounds like a cowboy.
[00:14:39] Speaker C: Yeah, well, Texas part does. Wharton sounds like a business school. Isn't that Wharton School of Finance?
Anyway, David, what do you think?
[00:14:49] Speaker B: I'll say he's 60.
[00:14:53] Speaker C: 60, okay. And, Marge, what do you think?
[00:14:57] Speaker F: Oh, I think he's gonna be 68.
[00:15:00] Speaker C: 68.
And Ken.
[00:15:03] Speaker G: I say 56.
[00:15:05] Speaker C: Ken says 56. And the lovely and exciting. Very phony.
Phony. Robert, what do you think?
[00:15:12] Speaker D: He's the same age as I am. 67.
[00:15:15] Speaker C: 67, okay.
Actually, Dan Rather is 63.
Let me see who comes closest. I think we.
David said 60. That may be the closest.
Hold on a second while I do my math here.
Yeah, David. David actually is the closest. He's only three years away.
Now, Robert, was. Came close to. He said 67, which is only four years away.
And alive. Alive.
[00:15:44] Speaker G: O. Dan Rather used to end his newscast when he first started by saying, hope.
Was that him?
Does anybody remember that?
[00:15:53] Speaker E: No.
[00:15:54] Speaker G: Like you'd say, good night and good news.
[00:15:56] Speaker C: Or he'd say, hope.
[00:15:57] Speaker G: You'd say hope.
[00:15:58] Speaker C: He had some kind of a.
I don't remember where there was that.
[00:16:02] Speaker D: Well, that's the other man who says, good night, folks. Glad we can get together.
[00:16:07] Speaker C: No, it's not that guy at all.
[00:16:09] Speaker D: It's not. Oh, not him.
[00:16:10] Speaker C: No, actually, David. Dave Garraway used to end his thing with. Remember he put at the palm of his hand up, facing the camera and say, peace?
[00:16:20] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:16:20] Speaker D: He was a gentleman.
[00:16:21] Speaker C: He was a phony. He was a phony gentleman. But, dad Rather used to have. Did have some slogan at the end. I can't think of what is. I think he used to say, this is Dan Rather rounding third and heading.
[00:16:33] Speaker D: Well, who's the man that says. Well, folks, that is the Night Guy.
[00:16:36] Speaker B: We can get together.
[00:16:39] Speaker C: That sounds. That sounds like John Cameron Swayze.
[00:16:42] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy. You're successful. Sensational. You are. You're the greatest.
He's got a great mind at Norm Nation. Yeah, he knows everybody in show business.
[00:16:56] Speaker C: He's got a great mind.
[00:16:57] Speaker E: He ought to give it back.
[00:17:00] Speaker C: Belongs to Joe Gray.
[00:17:01] Speaker B: Robert wrote that joke.
[00:17:03] Speaker C: Okay. Dale Evans also was born Oct. 31.
Dale Evans, one of my dearest friends in the cowboy business.
She was born Francis Smith.
It's interesting. She changed her name Francis Dale Evans. And her husband changed his name from something to whatever it is, Roy Rogers. And his real name isn't anything like that.
Anyway, she was born in Texas. Also, she was a successful singer, actress before and after she married Roy Rogers in 1947. There's a. A clue there.
She wrote the theme song for their TV show, which first aired December 1951, called Happy Trails to youo. I didn't know she wrote that.
Can you sing that for us, Robert?
[00:17:51] Speaker D: Happy trails to you Back in the saddle.
[00:17:54] Speaker C: No, no, no, no, that's Gene Autry.
No, no, no, no, that's Gene Autry.
[00:18:00] Speaker D: Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:18:01] Speaker C: Happy trails to You. See, that's. That's your problem. You don't really listen.
[00:18:05] Speaker D: Oh, that's Roy Rogers wife. You're talking about Dale Evans. The two. The cowgirl and the cowboy.
With the white. With the horse and.
[00:18:16] Speaker C: Yeah, with the horse. That's the one. Yeah.
[00:18:19] Speaker G: The one with the horse.
[00:18:20] Speaker C: That's right, yeah.
[00:18:21] Speaker G: Convertible.
[00:18:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Tell us how old you think Dale Evans is, Rob.
[00:18:24] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness. God bless her. She's a good movie star. When I was only a little kid, she. She has to be 75. 75.
[00:18:33] Speaker C: 75. 75, okay. She has to be 75.
And she's very funny.
Anyway, David, what do you say?
[00:18:43] Speaker B: Oh, boy, this is a rough one for me. I would say he's no she.
[00:18:48] Speaker C: Dale Evans is the. Is a woman.
[00:18:50] Speaker D: He's.
[00:18:51] Speaker C: She's married. It sounds like a man's name.
[00:18:53] Speaker D: Could be. No, he.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:55] Speaker C: I'm sorry. I thought you said Roy Rogers.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: I'd say she's 71.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: 71.
I think he's got her, Marge. What do you think?
[00:19:05] Speaker F: I think she's 76.
[00:19:07] Speaker C: 76. And nobody says that's the spirit. We gotta bring. We gotta Call up Jack.
And you think, you think Marge is correct?
[00:19:16] Speaker D: I think so.
[00:19:16] Speaker C: Because she's only a year away from your guess. And what do you think, Brian?
[00:19:21] Speaker E: Well, I'm gonna go a year away from that one and say 77.
[00:19:24] Speaker C: 77.
Okay. And Ken, what do you think?
[00:19:28] Speaker G: 74.
[00:19:29] Speaker C: 74.
[00:19:30] Speaker G: Just a spring chicken.
[00:19:32] Speaker C: Actually. She's older than any of you have guessed.
[00:19:34] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:19:36] Speaker C: Yes, sir. She's older than that.
[00:19:38] Speaker E: She's older than dirt.
[00:19:38] Speaker C: She's about, she's about my age. She's 82 years old.
[00:19:42] Speaker E: Is she 82?
[00:19:43] Speaker C: 82 years old.
[00:19:45] Speaker E: I thought there was like a five year span between her and I thought like Roy was 83 or something and they had like a five year span. So that would make her in the 70s if I did my math.
[00:19:58] Speaker C: Yeah, well, whatever clues you were going obviously failed you terribly well.
[00:20:02] Speaker E: Anyway, I was the closest, was I not?
[00:20:04] Speaker C: I believe you were. I was just gonna look up Roy Rogers age. Now that you brought it up, his birthday is November 5th, so. Actually his birthday will be in a few days. Maybe I shouldn't tell you if it comes on the weekend.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: It does come on a weekend.
[00:20:17] Speaker C: It comes on a Friday. No, it comes. It comes on a Saturday.
[00:20:19] Speaker G: Yes, it does.
[00:20:20] Speaker C: All right, I'm gonna tell you and anybody who's listen got a one up on it. He's, he'll be 83. Yeah, so he's, he's, he's about a year older than she is, that's all. Yeah, let me get that down.
[00:20:32] Speaker G: That's 83.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:20:34] Speaker C: You'll be, you'll be on duty.
No, you won't be here. That'll be next Saturday. Won't, won't that be next?
It'll be Saturday, so it'll be Friday night. Saturday morning. That'll be Jack Hard is on that.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: That will be correct.
[00:20:47] Speaker C: I'll leave him a memoir.
Okay, so the winner is. Is Brian. That is correct. You said 77.
And so we go to Michael Collins. Remember Michael Collins?
I didn't realize he was born in Rome. He manned the command module of Apollo II while Neil Armstrong and Ed Aldrin walked on the Moon on July 21, 1969.
His daughter Kate Collins is an actress.
Yeah, who's on All My Children.
I didn't realize that. How would I know that?
Because you hang around, you lie on the sofa, you eat the chocolate covered marshmallows and watch soap operas all day. Oh, the life of Riley. Yeah, the life of Riley.
That wouldn't be a bad show with maybe starring A guy like William Bendix and put it on radio.
Okay, Mike, that's a strictly local thing. Even Robert is not laughing at that.
[00:21:47] Speaker D: I don't even.
William Bendix, how old is he?
[00:21:50] Speaker C: No, we're not guessing his age. What happens to you in between the time you speak? Are you watching something on television? Are you reading something?
Yeah, because. Because anyone knows Michael Collins is who we're guessing, you know.
[00:22:03] Speaker D: Oh, the astronaut.
[00:22:05] Speaker C: Yeah, I believe so. Yes. Yes.
[00:22:08] Speaker D: My. My turn.
[00:22:10] Speaker E: Did you step outside or something for a minute and then just, like, lost his.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: His brains. His brains, I think stepped outside probably about 60 years ago and never stepped back in again.
He's laughing. I'm insulting the guy and he's laughing. You see this?
[00:22:25] Speaker E: He was abducted by aliens and they
[00:22:28] Speaker C: never brought his mind back.
[00:22:30] Speaker G: The makings of a Star magazine right here. Ah.
[00:22:34] Speaker D: Is it my turn, sir?
[00:22:35] Speaker C: No, no, it's not your turn. It's. It's a matter of fact, it's a David Star.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: Oh, let's say.
[00:22:41] Speaker D: Let's say he's 54.
[00:22:43] Speaker C: 54.
All right. And Ken, how old.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: How old?
[00:22:50] Speaker C: Can I sound like Tarzan now?
[00:22:53] Speaker B: How old?
[00:22:54] Speaker C: You can't, you know. Yeah. Me, how old? Astronaut, how.
[00:22:58] Speaker G: M. 56.
[00:23:00] Speaker C: M 56.
I write that in Navajo language.
I'm one of the factors. Felt really stupid when they're doing that, you know, and especially I assume that they're not really speaking any direct language and they're going back and forth to your movement.
[00:23:29] Speaker G: I wonder how they wrote the script for that.
[00:23:31] Speaker C: So they just say ad lib, like you're talking the Navajo or some language like Indian language. And they just take it from that.
Sounds like that. I think we should do the rest
[00:23:47] Speaker G: of the show in Indian language.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: No, I. I have. My native language, you know, is chagra. I've mentioned that a few times. I don't know if you've heard me mention that. I know Robert has heard me, but doesn't remember it because he wasn't really listening.
[00:23:59] Speaker D: I do Indian.
[00:24:01] Speaker C: See, I'm talking chagra. Now. That's a whole different thing. Yeah, that's the.
Oh, thank goodness. We got a switch here and I can clip them off.
[00:24:13] Speaker D: Don't do that.
[00:24:14] Speaker C: Okay, Marge, let's see. We start with you, Marge. Michael Collins. What do you think?
[00:24:19] Speaker F: Oh, I think he's about 62.
[00:24:22] Speaker C: 62. Okay, now it's your turn. Robert, what do you think?
[00:24:25] Speaker D: He has to be 53 years old.
[00:24:27] Speaker C: How much?
[00:24:28] Speaker D: 53.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: 53.
[00:24:31] Speaker F: Okay.
[00:24:31] Speaker C: Brian, what do you say?
Him big chief.
[00:24:34] Speaker E: 58.
[00:24:36] Speaker C: I need to wound him. You said 58. Yes, I did.
I was so busy doing my Indian phony Indian diet.
[00:24:44] Speaker E: Starting to rain in here. Stop doing that rain dance.
[00:24:47] Speaker C: I'm.
It always does that when I grease my body, slip into my loincloth and the sandals and leap around in a kind of a lustful manner in the
[00:24:58] Speaker D: middle of the dumb birthday game.
[00:24:59] Speaker E: Now I'm pushing my plate of fruit, my plate of food away from me.
[00:25:04] Speaker C: I don't think I feel like eating either. I wish I had a plate of
[00:25:07] Speaker G: food here to push away.
[00:25:09] Speaker C: Okay. Marge asked. It was the winner. She said 62. Michael Collins is. Will be 63.
Very good, Marge.
[00:25:17] Speaker F: Yeah. That's a surprise.
[00:25:20] Speaker C: Well, as a matter of fact, everybody has scored at least once.
Brian has twice, but everybody else has won one score, so.
I didn't finish my hot dog. I still had lots of hot dogs lasting yours. All finished. Nom, nom, nom. No, it's really good.
We used to come back from Revere beach like that. And this girl who came along swimming with us, she would never eat the hot dog all the way down. She would wait till we all ate ours, then she could go through that. By that time, it was cold and falling apart and probably had no taste at all.
But I don't know why I remember this. It's just that I hate her guts to this day for doing that. And that happened about 63 years ago.
Anyway, the War of the Worlds we're coming back to.
Here are a couple of events that happened, and I'll ask you what year they happened. This happened October 30th. This very day. Today it happened. October 30th. And you tell me what year Orson Welles made his famous War of the World's radio broadcast. Near panic resulted when listeners believed the simulated news bulletins describing an invasion by Mars Martians in New Jersey. That always struck me. Funny why he picked New Jersey as the place where the aliens would invade.
I don't know. New Jersey just sounds funny.
[00:26:43] Speaker G: You think they'd stay out of there and invade some. I don't know, some nice place? No, they're not putting down New Jersey.
[00:26:48] Speaker C: Yeah, like invade Hawaii or something. Oh, that would. That would make more sense. Yeah.
Families rushed into the streets using wet towels as gas masks. A woman in Pittsburgh was found with a poison bottle saying she would rather die this way.
$750,000 in lawsuits were filed against Wells. I can't imagine that anybody would have collected for something like that. Let's see, what else do we know about that?
Hold on. Just A minute?
No. Anyway, it aired on cbs, I think. Did I say that? Anyway, that was it. What year was the War of the Worlds first aired?
And we'll start the bidding at 6.
Now, we'll start with you, Ken. What year do you think that was?
[00:27:35] Speaker G: I was so afraid because I should know, at least in the ballpark.
But I don't know, it was in the 50s sometime, I think.
I guess I should just take a wild stab, huh? Instead of dead silence.
[00:27:52] Speaker E: Yeah, well, that. In the background there. Did you just see what they trying to contact you?
[00:27:55] Speaker C: Yeah, there's a code. Yeah. It came from. It's coming from out.
[00:27:58] Speaker G: I have a team of experts working on it, looking up this information. They get back to me on that.
[00:28:03] Speaker D: I see.
[00:28:04] Speaker G: I don't know.
[00:28:04] Speaker C: 55. 1955, you say?
Okay, what do you say, Brian?
[00:28:10] Speaker E: Now, maybe I might have turn my little headset off like Robert's been doing, but is this on TV or radio?
[00:28:17] Speaker C: This is radio. Oh, radio. Radio.
[00:28:20] Speaker G: Maybe it was even before.
[00:28:22] Speaker E: I'd say 1945.
[00:28:24] Speaker C: 1945.
Okay. Marge, what do you think?
[00:28:28] Speaker F: 1948.
[00:28:30] Speaker C: 1948.
David, will you be quiet? Robert? David, what do you think?
[00:28:36] Speaker B: We said 1952, yet nobody said that.
[00:28:39] Speaker C: No, you gotta say that.
[00:28:41] Speaker B: Yeah, 52.
[00:28:42] Speaker C: Okay. And Robert.
[00:28:43] Speaker D: I'll go 47. And Margie said 48.
Okay.
[00:28:48] Speaker C: It was actually 1938.
[00:28:50] Speaker B: Whoa.
[00:28:51] Speaker D: I knew I was close to, but I'm not sure. Was it 38?
[00:28:55] Speaker C: 1938.
[00:28:57] Speaker G: People are awfully gullible back then.
[00:28:58] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:28:59] Speaker C: Oh, they certainly were because they were announcing all the way through that it was a dramatization that it wasn't real.
And people. I guess. People going nuts. I. I was around that during that period. I just don't remember the ever hearing the broadcast at that time or the reaction of anybody near me.
[00:29:15] Speaker G: Just goes to show you believe nothing of what you hear in half of what you read. That's how it goes, isn't it?
[00:29:21] Speaker C: Let's say that again. I think that was lovely the way you said that.
[00:29:24] Speaker G: Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you read.
[00:29:27] Speaker C: Is that right? I hope not. Wait a minute. Believe nothing, nothing of what you hear ever, you know.
[00:29:34] Speaker G: Yeah, yeah. Or something. It's something very close to that.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: I think it's.
[00:29:37] Speaker G: How does the saying go?
[00:29:38] Speaker C: I think it goes, believe one third of what you hear and 2/10 of 1% of what you see. Except if you hear 9/10 of what this. I don't know either. No, I don't know what that is. Anyway, the Winner there that I tell you was Brian, because he said 45. You were seven years off, but still closer than anybody else. I'm off anyway. I'm surprised, Robert, that you didn't get that at this.
[00:30:07] Speaker D: I wasn't sure because that's the old radio show when we had the old radios that used to.
[00:30:13] Speaker E: You didn't know it because you said Marge. When you said Marge nailed it on the head with 1948.
[00:30:18] Speaker C: No, Marge said 48 and she was even further away.
[00:30:22] Speaker D: I said 47.
[00:30:23] Speaker C: You said 47. Yeah, you. I love, I love this business about.
I'm surprised you didn't know Robert, because you were around then. And then he said, hold on a minute. And then he'll say, well, it's old radio. I know. And then you go, you,
[00:30:38] Speaker D: you knew it because you were in radio at that time.
[00:30:40] Speaker C: No, I wasn't in radio in 1938. No, I was not.
[00:30:43] Speaker E: He knew it because he has the answer in front of him.
[00:30:46] Speaker C: That's how I think I would have come fairly close. I was. I think you would have because, I mean, I do a talk on old time radio. That's one of my specialty. I would have nailed it very close. I would have said 1921.
[00:30:57] Speaker D: No way.
[00:30:58] Speaker C: No way.
[00:31:00] Speaker E: It's too late.
We already gave the dates 1938. Robert.
[00:31:04] Speaker C: I just made a joke. See, I made a joke. Robert.
Okay, here's, here's, here's an interesting thing here.
And it's, it's. The first television transmission was seen in London, England. It was on this date also, like October 30th, today's date. John Baird built the transmitter in his attic from a tea chest, cardboard scanning discs.
This sounds like the WBC radio transmitter.
An empty biscuit box, old electric motors, dining needles, motorcycle lamp lenses, piano wire, glue, string, string and sealing wax. You believe that was this?
[00:31:49] Speaker G: Who is this?
[00:31:50] Speaker C: The first television transmission.
It was seen in London, England. I don't know how far they transmitted it. Sounds like something they would do it. They'd be happy.
Happy tots Kindergarten.
Okay, boys and girls, we're going to build a television trust station. Bring in your darning needles. Ask mom.
Ask your brother for his motorcycle lap lenses.
Pick up some piano wire, some glue string and sealing wax, an empty biscuit box, cardboard scanning discs, a tea chest and an empty biscuit box. Okay, boys and girls, right after this commercial we'll come back and we'll build all together a television transmitting station.
Oh, I forgot to tell them about the cat litter. We'll mention that when we come out of the commercial.
Anyway. What year do you think that was? I don't know how far they transmitted that.
[00:32:50] Speaker G: Probably programming was around back then.
[00:32:53] Speaker D: Was it time at Transester Radio?
[00:32:55] Speaker C: I think it was Sally Jesse Raphael was doing. She was interviewing a guy who was having sex with his mother's cousin's turtles rabbit or something? Yeah, that was the first program Turtle
[00:33:09] Speaker G: would own a rabbit. That sounds a little confession.
[00:33:11] Speaker C: Yeah, well, it was a little crazy, but that's the way television turned out to be.
Anyway, with the first transmission, it probably. Probably transmitted the picture for whatever it was to. Probably from the dining room to the bathroom, something like that. I don't think. I can't imagine going very far.
Okay, because if.
Anyway, let's start with you, Robert. What year?
[00:33:33] Speaker D: Well, Milton Burrow was Mr. Television. He was the first.
[00:33:38] Speaker C: That's correct.
[00:33:40] Speaker D: So it would have to go back 20 or 25 years in that area. 20, 25 years.
[00:33:48] Speaker C: Okay, so what. What year are you suggesting?
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Oh, 40.
[00:33:53] Speaker D: Well, all right, we'll go.
[00:33:56] Speaker B: We'll go.
[00:33:56] Speaker D: 1925. 1926 in that area.
[00:34:00] Speaker C: What year do you Want to pick?
[00:34:01] Speaker D: 1925.
[00:34:03] Speaker C: 1924.
[00:34:04] Speaker D: 1924.
[00:34:06] Speaker C: No, no, no. 1925. No, we haven't got guesses from other people yet.
[00:34:10] Speaker D: Oh, okay. Okay. All right. 1925.
[00:34:12] Speaker C: 1924. Okay, that's phony.
[00:34:17] Speaker D: I'm sure you have an accent.
[00:34:19] Speaker C: I never noticed that.
David, what do you think?
[00:34:23] Speaker B: How about 1919.
[00:34:26] Speaker D: 1933.
[00:34:29] Speaker C: 1933.
Okay. And Marge?
[00:34:35] Speaker F: I'll say 1934.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: 1934.
And Brian?
[00:34:45] Speaker B: 35.
[00:34:46] Speaker C: 1935.
Okay, again.
[00:34:51] Speaker G: 1932.
So we get that all covered that whole stretch?
[00:34:56] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what we have. From 32 to 35 is all covered.
The year was 1925. I hit it again.
[00:35:06] Speaker D: Oh, gee.
[00:35:07] Speaker G: No, he didn't.
[00:35:07] Speaker C: Tell him it's not that young.
I'm a genius.
[00:35:12] Speaker G: And modest, too. Yeah,
[00:35:17] Speaker D: you may call me an old goat.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: Sometimes over the hill and everything.
[00:35:21] Speaker E: Old goat sometimes.
[00:35:22] Speaker D: Hit it again, huh?
[00:35:24] Speaker C: Okay, so let me give you the final scores on this swell game score already.
Okay. The actual winner is Brian. Because he had three, you know, correct
[00:35:35] Speaker E: answers two nights in a row.
[00:35:37] Speaker C: Yeah, Touch me. You won yesterday, too. Yeah. Yeah. You've really come along to be a. Yes, I am. Seasoned, wondrous performer. And Robert had two, which was very good for you, Robert.
[00:35:49] Speaker D: Hey, not bad, huh?
[00:35:50] Speaker C: Not bad at all. And everybody else, of course, not as
[00:35:53] Speaker E: good as me, but not bad. No.
[00:35:56] Speaker C: Well, you beat him 3 to 2. But everybody else had just one correct.
[00:36:00] Speaker D: Can I get a lock of hair from Brian.
[00:36:03] Speaker E: Oh, you know, I just got my hair cut, so I don't have much left.
[00:36:06] Speaker D: Nomen. Before you hang up on me or anything, you must have caught tonight. I know you had to go to work early. Comedy hall of Fame.
They are comedians.
[00:36:20] Speaker G: That makes sense.
[00:36:21] Speaker E: I was gonna say that's why they're calling hall of Fame.
[00:36:25] Speaker D: Comedy Hall. Fame of hall of Fame, not the
[00:36:27] Speaker C: Drama hall of Fame.
[00:36:28] Speaker D: It was on tonight from 8 to 10. I know you went to work early.
[00:36:31] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I did that.
Yeah. Who'd they have on?
[00:36:37] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness. They gave awards to everybody. Like all the people who I like that you don't like.
They had Sid Caesar. Sensational. What.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: What makes you think I don't like Sid Caesar? He was. He's a genius. The guy's brilliant.
[00:36:53] Speaker D: I know. And then they had George Collins, Richard Pryor, excellent.
[00:36:57] Speaker C: Those are all good people.
[00:36:58] Speaker D: But you say Bob Hopes, an old goat.
[00:37:01] Speaker C: No, I didn't say it was an old goat.
[00:37:02] Speaker D: Well, I know that's just off the cuff.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: I know.
[00:37:05] Speaker C: No, I said you're an old goat. I said. I. I said Buttons was on. I'm glad you give me a chance to fly now.
[00:37:12] Speaker D: I just wonder. I hope you. You cut. You got a tape on it or something because it was beautiful. And they're old time comics who told good jokes.
[00:37:22] Speaker C: Yeah, but you mentioned jokes. You mentioned a lot of young comics there too.
[00:37:26] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[00:37:27] Speaker C: Relatively young who were excellent, like. Well, you. Not a lot. You mentioned Roger Prior, Richard Pryor, and you mentioned George Carlin, who was not one of the old time comics.
[00:37:39] Speaker D: No, but I'm talking about in the 60s.
I'm not talking about the comics today. I. I respect. Everybody is a comic. If you've got enough guts to get in the stage and tell a joke and the audience come in and listen to you and you funny. But when you have to do dirty material. They even said it on the television show tonight.
[00:38:04] Speaker C: Okay, okay, Robert. Thank you very much.
[00:38:07] Speaker D: I'm sorry very kindly, sir, for allowing me on.
[00:38:10] Speaker C: Well, you're. It's my pleasure.
Or it's your pleasure and must be something.
[00:38:14] Speaker D: When are you gonna go into hall of Fame, Norman?
[00:38:18] Speaker C: Oh, I don't know. I'm expecting it soon. As a matter of fact, I just sent my suit out to be cleaned just in case
[00:38:28] Speaker B: you like people like that.
[00:38:29] Speaker D: Like I like.
You got a great sense of humor, sir.
[00:38:33] Speaker C: Yes, I do.
[00:38:34] Speaker D: Margie. Good night, Ryan.
[00:38:37] Speaker F: David.
[00:38:38] Speaker D: God bless you.
[00:38:39] Speaker C: Good night, John Boy.
[00:38:40] Speaker F: Good night.
[00:38:41] Speaker E: That clock
[00:38:43] Speaker C: and. Hey, David, thank you very much.
[00:38:45] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: Hey, can I say hello to two of my buddies that are listening tonight?
[00:38:49] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: Ted and Bill.
Bill and Ted.
[00:38:52] Speaker G: They have an excellent adventure, and then
[00:38:55] Speaker E: they had a bogus adventure.
[00:38:57] Speaker C: Now, where are they?
[00:38:59] Speaker B: We work here in East Boston for a car rental company.
[00:39:02] Speaker C: Oh, they're. Sean, they're in the same building you are. Right. Oh, you're at work right now. Yeah, I'm contracting from work. Well, does the boss mind that you took time off for doing this? I hope he's not up listening. He wants me. Well, we didn't mention your last name anyway.
And as I understand, it's David Morevich and you're actually working in South Weymouth, is that right?
[00:39:24] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:39:24] Speaker C: Okay. And so are the other two guys. Hey, David. Anyway, thanks a lot.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: It's been fun.
[00:39:29] Speaker C: Take care. Been fun for us, too. And, Marge, as the only woman on the panel, you came through beautifully, providing just enough lust to keep us all going and keep the adrenaline flowing.
[00:39:42] Speaker F: I enjoyed it.
[00:39:44] Speaker C: Okay, we'll talk to you again soon.
[00:39:46] Speaker F: I hope so.
[00:39:47] Speaker D: Bye.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: Bye.
[00:39:48] Speaker F: Okay, Bye.
[00:39:49] Speaker D: Bye.
[00:39:50] Speaker F: Bye.
[00:39:50] Speaker C: Bye.
[00:39:50] Speaker F: Okay.
[00:39:51] Speaker C: And Brian. Yes.
Congratulations on your wonderful way.
[00:39:56] Speaker E: I'm so happy. Two nights in a row. Well, that never. I. I had a week where I was going two weeks in a row where I was, like, missing by 15 to 20 years on these people. And I was so sad and depressed when I went home that I thought,
[00:40:08] Speaker B: oh, my God, Norm's gonna kick me off the birthday game.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: Oh, I'd never do that. Never do that. No. We don't judge contestants or, you know, the panel members by whether they win or lose. It's by how they play the game,
[00:40:20] Speaker E: how stupid they really can be.
[00:40:22] Speaker C: Yeah. Silly things they could come up with.
So, anyway, thank you very much. And that's. I thank you, Ken.
[00:40:29] Speaker G: It's been a pleasure, Norm. And I'm really happy I was able to keep my. My streak going of. I think it's 30, 32 times consecutively of losing.
So I'm happy to keep that going. I wouldn't want to break that. No, you wouldn't.
[00:40:43] Speaker E: All over.
[00:40:44] Speaker C: No, because I think you're just, I think, 63 games away from making the Guinness Book of World Records.
Anyway, we'll talk to you again soon. And take care, and have a good weekend and a good Halloween.
[00:40:55] Speaker G: You, too.
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There.
[00:41:21] Speaker D: Personal.
[00:41:22] Speaker C: Okay, now can you help me out? Go ahead.
[00:41:25] Speaker D: Now, who was the gentleman?
Hey, Hayrides in When the Snow.
[00:41:32] Speaker C: Warren Evans.
[00:41:34] Speaker D: What was his name?
[00:41:35] Speaker C: Warren Evans.
[00:41:37] Speaker D: Warren. Oh, see, Warren Evans. Oh my.
You know, he just.
Yeah,
[00:41:48] Speaker C: Warren Evans. He had a couple of big horses and he used to plow.
Matter of fact, he used to hay the fields with his horses the old fashioned way. Yeah. And he gave hay rides and sleigh rides, all that kind of stuff. Damn right. I know, I. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he doesn't have the horses anymore, but he used to do a lot of that.
[00:42:06] Speaker D: So help me.
[00:42:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's the guy.
[00:42:09] Speaker D: So nice.
[00:42:10] Speaker C: Okay, I'm glad I could help you out, Paul. And you must call again one day after the war and we'll see if we can't raise our glasses in that cafe in Antwerp. Once more
[00:42:23] Speaker B: came and grabbed it. So Roy went out after the cougar shot and he brought it back and Gabby turned around and said to him, pardon me, Roy, was that the cat or choose your new shoes.
[00:42:35] Speaker C: No, dear, I love those puns. And as a matter of fact, you can tell if pun is successful if the audience goes, or whoever you're telling it to goes. Oh, they have to groan a lot then, you know, you've really hit the mark.
But that's one of the good ones. Yes.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: Roy and Dale, they took in a lot of children.
[00:42:57] Speaker C: Did they?
[00:42:57] Speaker B: Yes, they had an orphanage.
They had. I'm trying to think. Roy had three boys of his own.
To the guy that worked with me, that met Roy's first wife, Eileen. She died in childbirth or after, I mean.
And then, you know, then he married Dale and I think they had a daughter who died, who got killed.
[00:43:19] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:43:21] Speaker B: And then they adopted other children.
[00:43:25] Speaker C: I didn't realize that Roy Rogers was Roy Rogers.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Gene Autry, Jimmy Wakely and a whole bunch of those. Tex Ritter, they were on a program called the Barn Dance and they were
[00:43:38] Speaker C: singing the Barn Dance. Yeah, I remember that.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: And that's how they got the singing cowboys. Now how they got the non singing cowboys like Alan, Rocky Lane and Charles Derrick was that this guy Jesse Lasky went down to the Rose bowl game and these guys were all playing football for colleges. And he go up to them and say, how would you like to work in a Western? And he put cowboy outfits on them. And the other people became western stars because they were football players.
[00:44:08] Speaker C: Oh, it is That's Darwin and War
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Bourne and a whole bunch of them.
[00:44:13] Speaker C: No kidding. You're okay. You know, all this kind of stuff. I had no idea that the Sons of the Pioneers. I remember their singing, which I thought was pretty good. I think they had a nice sound.
And you mentioned one other thing.
I can't think of what that was.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Dale Evans said they were all gone. He said something about.
He was on one of those.
Well, they're on those religious programs, you know, like, what's that guy?
[00:44:41] Speaker C: Pat Robertson?
[00:44:43] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: You know, I don't take the whole evangelist too much because they're all phony. Most of them are. Not all of them.
[00:44:49] Speaker C: Well, I think one of the networks had a.
Did a documentary on Pat Robertson the other day, talking about the tons of money that he has and tons of money he made through his ministry and kind of some shady deals and stuff. It was fascinating program.
And I heard. I. Then I watched him and he was telling his. His viewers, you know, not to have to pay any attention and all that kind of stuff. But I thought his rebuttal to what the network had done, I think it was ABC had done it, I thought was not too terribly convincing.
Not. Not at all convincing.
But he's. He's made tremendous amounts of sums of money. Tremendous amounts. He's got a million things going. Anyway, that's beside the point. The fact is, Roy Rogers, I didn't realize had been around long enough to, you know, that far back to have done the Sons of the Pioneers and all that kind of stuff, because that. That was a legitimately decent musical group, which I remember listening to the song, kind of liking them way back.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Well, you know how Roy Ross became King of the Cowboys?
He had big parts in the movies.
He became king of his cowboys at Republic in World War II because Gene Rocky won the service.
A whole bunch of the younger cowboys, you know, from the 30s and 40s went in the service and it was.
And Roy Rogers, I think he said something about his eyes. He squinted. He squinted in the sun. He said he used to put novocaine in his eyelids so he wouldn't squint. And I guess that kept him out of service. So he made a whole lot of pictures and he got popular. So then when Gene Autry come back, guess what? New King of the Cowboys. So Gene Autry left Republic, went to Columbia and he made.
What is Harry Brown, who made a lot of Randolph Squat movies from Columbia, done in with Gene Autry. And he put the money that he made in Columbia in his own pictures. Then he went into television and then he started producing other westerns on tv and that's how he made his money. And then he invested in sports teams and et cetera.
[00:47:06] Speaker C: Hey, you know, all that stuff. Do you know about show business in general? Are you interested mostly in country and western stuff?
[00:47:13] Speaker B: Well, I. I grew up watching the westerns and I used to see what happened. We first got TV, you know, right back in the 40s and 50s. There were no real movies. Like you turn on the TV and you get, you know, you get HBO and everything. But we only had two channels, four and seven and Saturday afternoons and everything. They would show all these old westerns like Republic Ringwood, Gene Autry. Then they'd have Lash LaRue and Crash Corrigan and all this.
[00:47:46] Speaker C: Yeah, they were doing the Hopalong Cassidy things too then, remember?
[00:47:50] Speaker B: Yeah, Hop on Cassidy was on Sunday.
Yeah, they would show his old movies
[00:47:57] Speaker C: because he became popular all over again as a result of that. As I remember, he like he and
[00:48:01] Speaker B: Roy Rogers, they made half hour or hour tv, you know, for television.
But they were interspersed with old movies they made in the theaters back in the 30s and 40s. So they made a whole lot of, you know, they had a whole lot of movies in the can and Papa Wont Cassidy and Gene Automy and Roy Rogers were smart enough to take the money in.
Let's see, they bought their old films.
[00:48:29] Speaker F: That's what they did.
[00:48:29] Speaker B: And then they sold it to television. They're the only ones at 4C that their movies are going to go to TV. Everybody else just grabbed the money and did them and then retired and went on to other things.
[00:48:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I think at one time, I think during the early days of television, movies had to be about 10 years old. Yeah, something like that. They had to be pretty old.
The companies that made them wouldn't have released the rights to show them on television because they thought television sets competition.
It's amazing now sometimes they make movies and they're in the movie theater about three minutes and they're on television soon after. So you do get a chance to see things that are much more current.
But the movie's then true. They were old and the quality wasn't very good.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: That was around 55, 56, they started getting the old movies. It was.
Well, the BZ had what you call it Boston Movie Town with Alan Deer. He said, we got these wonderful movies. They were all Jimmy Cagney and Bette Davis movies.
But my mother said that even though the scripts are not this good, the acting's better. Because it's like, oh, you killed my brother. You know, it's like Jimmy Cagney and Bette Davis, their acting was like.
You know, it was like, oh, when they get shot, they grab their thigh for about two minutes.
[00:49:52] Speaker C: Well, I suppose not. Maybe. That was maybe true in some cases.
But if you watch Jimmy Cagney, I mean, this. This guy had so much style and he had so much quality. He was really something to watch.
If you watch him, for example, on George, when he did. George. George M. Cohan.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:11] Speaker C: His dancing. Everything about him. Everything about. Everything about him is a whole lot of class. I. I thought he was. He was something special. I never really appreciated him as much first time around as I do now, maybe because I'm older. But he walked and he talked and he had an attitude and everything. That was strictly him. He was. He was special. I've never been a big, big Bette Davis fan. Although I can agree that she's. She was a great actress. But a lot of those people had. Had great style, Great style. And Jimmy Cagney among them. I have. Now that I've said my speech, I gotta go.
[00:50:47] Speaker A: What a great call to end the show on.
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Four actors and comedians. Stag fees. Brian's upset stomach. Penultimate days. Turning the calendar back a day, month or year. Dating Classifieds. Law shows on tv. Channeling the ghost of Jack Benny. Nothing wrong with that. Being on hiatus. Locks of hair. Rounding third and heading for home. Happy trails. The one with the horse. 76. That's the spirit. William Bendix. Robert's alien abducted mind. Navajo ad libbing. Chagra num num. Hot dogs. The War of the Worlds. Codes from outer space.
Gullibility.
Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you read. TV antenna parts. Turtles and rabbits. Canadian accents. The Comedy hall of Fame.
Old goats. David Moravich from South Weymouth. Haying the fields. The barn dance. The Sons of the Pioneers. TV evangelist. Bank accounts. Roy Rogers. Sensitive eyes. TV country and western history. Boston Movie time with Alan Derry. That funny guy Robert from Everett traffic fella Ken Newman. The Halloween masked in soap Opera fanboy Brian McKinley. And the flexing and oiled up Norm Atlas. Nathan. I'm Tony Nesbit.
[00:52:46] Speaker D: How about a lock of your hair?
I'll study all of it.
