Norm Nathan's Vault of Silliness - Ep 166

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, son alt bra Zviran. Thanks for discovering us here at the vault of Silliness today. As we kick off December and feeling a bit nostalgic, I thought it would be a treat to make most of these episodes two siders. I mean, it is the season of giving. Today we hearken back to the heady day of December 593 for a Norm nay, even show Dumb Birthday Game, which I have titled The Donahue Debut because WBZ's and now AP's own Ed Donahue plays the Dumb Birthday Game for the first time. We get to it right away with calls denis, Bob, Gene, Hank and then Steve. Now it's dumb birthday game time. The players Eddie and Alston, whose cat's name is Clyde, a good friend, helen the just so darn thrilled amy from Boston, an emphasis on the ill in thrilled. Her cat's name is Ma Mark in Hudson, New Hampshire. His cat's name is BJ. Sid Whitaker producing and playing in studio no cats, bruce Connolly in traffic and the aforementioned Ed Donoghue on the phone. The Birthdays. Now, Deanna Durbin is briefly discussed because of tech issues the night before the game was not played and I guess Norm wanted to mention her. Now the real Birthdays jim Messina little Richard Morgan brittany jim Plunkett calvin Trillin will Shriner stephen Wright and Dave Brubeck post Game Callers joe and Walfam and Jeff from Dorchester We are treated to some commercials. The opening of a few gold bonds in an Ovaltine spot there's a Norm Reed for Heritage Radio, a partial commercial for the Irish Crystal Company, a terribly annoying spot for the Westboro antique and flea market. James Rife of Riverdale, Illinois, for Gold Bond in its full glory. And Bessie Dupree of St. Petersburg for Ovaltine, also full glory. Episode 166 the Donahue Debut sparkles its way to your ears now. [00:02:06] Speaker B: But that's some time ago now. [00:02:08] Speaker C: Yeah, well, most of them now, they're just integrated now into every orchestra. Now you turn on something like, say, David Letterman's program, you see Paul Schaefer there. He's got four or five different keyboards. Of course, he's still got his Hammond organ there, whatever it is that's a favorite of his. But all those other keyboards, they're all various makes and models and manufacturers and with all this digital circuitry, as they call it now, it's just quite the thing. In fact, there's a company now talking about digital circuitry, here's a Segue. There's a company up in the Peabody area now that has come up with a way of compressing a television signal onto regular telephone wires. No more coaxial cable, no more microwave. They can call up the West Coast office and you can talk to the East Coast office and have a real time conversation with somebody over a regular two conductor telephone line. Now, the only thing is the equipment costs several thousand dollars and it'll be a while before it's in everybody's homes, but it's quite the thing. The other thing that piqued my interest. Last night you were talking about the people in Maine who had come up with a lottery scheme to sell off their property. You would send in an essay with a cash donation and if you won, you got their property for the cost of your donation and they would make out with a couple hundred thousand dollars. I read an article in the Globe about maybe two, three weeks ago where a woman in Massachusetts, having heard about what was going on in Maine decided to give it a shot herself here locally. But the state got wind of it and stopped it because it's considered an illegal lottery in Massachusetts. So anybody who's decided to sell their house through an essay contest, it's not going to happen. [00:04:17] Speaker B: But they would consider that a lottery even though they would determine the winner based upon the quality of the lottery of the essay. So why would that be a lottery? The winner wouldn't be picked at random like a lottery would. [00:04:33] Speaker C: It gets really involved. From what I understand it's whether or not you're a for profit business or a not for profit business it's very easy for a church or the KFC or the Elks Lodge or something, all these non profit corporations to run fundraisers that benefit the benevolent society or their church or what have you. And it goes for the common good, as it were. But if it's a for profit business, you cannot run a lottery for yourself. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Okay? I know that. You can't run a raffle. [00:05:07] Speaker C: Yeah, well, raffle lottery, same. [00:05:11] Speaker B: Except a raffle is pretty much a chance kind of thing. And this was an essay thing where they would actually pick an essay which would require skill and not just chance, but anyway, I don't know, whatever. [00:05:25] Speaker C: But anyways. One final comment on keyboards and synthesizers. When do you think WBZ will get themselves back up with their mobile units and do a live concert from Hammond Castle that hasn't been done, I think, since the 50s? [00:05:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. Now that we have so much news it's kind of hard to do a program outside the studio because you have to be close to it in order to get all the news gathered and that kind of stuff. You could do it at night, I guess. [00:05:55] Speaker C: Sure, yeah. [00:05:55] Speaker B: During the Breadnoise show or overnight or something like that. Or Sunday, when we have a lot. [00:05:59] Speaker C: I was thinking more maybe one of the not so much on the news side, but maybe on whatever entertainment side. Do a live pipe organ concert from up there. That used to be a regular feature back in the 50s on Beasley. They would get somebody like Power Biggs or Virgil Fox or some other in there and they'd do a concert from up there. [00:06:22] Speaker B: Now, there's a guy, Ken Wilson, who was playing the organ up at Hammond Castle up there. I worked with him at WHDH at one point. [00:06:29] Speaker C: Yeah. In fact, there's a story about him, I believe if it's the same one I'm thinking of bear with me. I'm assuming if he's the same Wilson, he's passed away. [00:06:40] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:41] Speaker C: And the story they tell up at him in Castle is that he liked that place so much that after he passed away, that he had his ashes scattered on the grounds. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Really? I'm not aware of that. That may very well be true. [00:06:55] Speaker C: Yeah. It's one of the stories that the curator tells when they take a tour of their tour of the facility. [00:07:00] Speaker B: And it's probably so then, I would guess. Yes, because I know in later years he was playing up there and really loved playing there quite a lot. [00:07:08] Speaker C: I got a chance there. I've done a couple of volunteer gigs up there. They do various Renaissance fairs now, and they do a stint at Halloween where they do the whole thing up as a haunted castle and what have you. And there's been a couple of nights there, and I was all alone sitting in the great hall, and I kind of asked the curator, Would you mind? And he said, well, nobody's looking, and we'd turn it on, and I'd noodle a little bit at the keyboard. [00:07:34] Speaker B: So you're an organ player? [00:07:35] Speaker C: Not really. I mean, I'm probably the world's worst keyboard player, but it was just the thought of sitting there with these five grand keyboards and 8000 pipes up above you and just to be able to say you drove it for a little while. [00:07:50] Speaker B: That sounds nice. [00:07:51] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. It's been very nice. Norm and I got to go do my rounds, and we'll be listening. [00:07:58] Speaker B: What, your security guard? [00:07:59] Speaker C: No, actually, I'm working in a facility for it's a community residence for the mentally handicapped. [00:08:05] Speaker B: Oh, I see. [00:08:06] Speaker C: In Bill Rick, it's time for me to go do a little bed check. [00:08:08] Speaker B: And make sure well, you're doing good work, Dennis. I appreciate you taking this time to call. [00:08:13] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I was in between. I get my paperwork all the time. Thought I'd give you a call. [00:08:18] Speaker D: It's southeast of Worcester. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:22] Speaker D: And keeping with the musical theme tonight, I'm also a bluegrass musician. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Oh, are you? What do you play? [00:08:28] Speaker D: I play the bass. [00:08:30] Speaker B: Really? [00:08:30] Speaker D: And I'm actually I'm David's brother. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Oh, no kidding. Okay. And this fellow who called about David was so enthusiastic about his banjo playing. Apparently your brother or something. Do you feel that way? [00:08:42] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. He's a great banjo player. One thing that wasn't mentioned was I think it was 1981, he was the grand champion on Dave Maynard's show, on the TV show Community Audition. [00:08:57] Speaker B: Oh, really? Yeah, because this fellow who called also said he'd won some other right. [00:09:04] Speaker D: The world champion. [00:09:05] Speaker B: World champion, yeah. Do you play with him? Do you play in that same group? [00:09:10] Speaker D: Not currently. I play in another touring band called the band is sort of based out of Denver, Colorado. [00:09:23] Speaker B: And here you are in Northbridge. Wow. [00:09:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:27] Speaker D: Well, I live out here, and we have a guitar player who lives in Pennsylvania and two other people who live out in Colorado. But we tour all around, and every once in a while, when we're touring on the East Coast, I'm able to pick up your show at night when we're staying in a hotel or somewhere. [00:09:45] Speaker B: Well, I appreciate you even making the attempt. That's nice. But I wondered how you guys get together, where you come from, such different areas. [00:09:53] Speaker D: Well, we do a lot of touring. We'll go out for maybe a week or ten days at a time and. [00:09:59] Speaker B: Tour right around the country. [00:10:02] Speaker D: Yeah, I think this year we've done about 21 states, so it's been pretty busy. But we've got this whole month off and most of next month off. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Okay, well, that sounds good. Is there any place anybody around here. [00:10:16] Speaker D: Could catch your actually, I don't think we'll be here until March, and we'll be doing a fairly extensive tour through New England in March, we'll be in New Hampshire, and we'll be in Cambridge. [00:10:33] Speaker B: If you will be in touch with me just before you start that tour. [00:10:37] Speaker C: Sure. [00:10:37] Speaker B: I'd appreciate we can pass the word along to people who want to catch it. I'd love to do that because I suspect there are an awful lot well, you know better than I would a lot of bluegrass fans, because I heard a lot of people talk about the music. To me. [00:10:50] Speaker D: Yeah, there's a pretty good following up here in New England. People think that it's mostly confined to Kentucky and Virginia, which is sort of the hotbed of where bluegrass came out of and where most of the bands come from. But there's a lot of pickers up here in New England. [00:11:07] Speaker B: No, I kind of have a feeling there is. Yeah, because I've heard a lot about that. Hey, it's good to talk with you, Bob, and I wish you good luck, and I hope you'll keep in touch. Let me know what you're doing. [00:11:16] Speaker D: Well, I certainly will. [00:11:18] Speaker B: Take care of yourself. [00:11:19] Speaker D: You too. [00:11:19] Speaker B: Bye bye. Bye bye. Jim Brown of Grand Prairie, Texas, is telling us about his itchy chafing problem. There was itching and irritation. Okay. What's going on? [00:11:30] Speaker E: We don't have rain up here. We had rain this afternoon. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Now, where in Canada are you? [00:11:34] Speaker E: Canada. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Now, Kanata is where canada is just. [00:11:38] Speaker E: On the outskirts of oh, okay. [00:11:41] Speaker B: And the weather is not raining right now. [00:11:43] Speaker E: It's not raining, but I look out my window, and we have a thin coat of snow on our grass. [00:11:48] Speaker B: Really? [00:11:49] Speaker E: Yes. I'm very happy about this. [00:11:52] Speaker B: You are? Why is that? [00:11:53] Speaker E: It's our first anniversary, December 4, and our wedding day last year. We came out of the church, and the snow was coming down really pretty, and when they took the pictures, it really turned out quite nice. [00:12:07] Speaker B: And so you're so delighted about the first year of your marriage that has obviously turned out to be quite successful and happy that you don't mind recreating the magic moment with the snow in the whole business. [00:12:20] Speaker E: I don't mind at all. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Oh, you're such a romantic, Gene. Isn't it? And so am I. I think that's lovely. [00:12:26] Speaker E: Unfortunately, my husband is not. [00:12:29] Speaker B: He's not romantic? [00:12:30] Speaker E: No. He likes to do funny things. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Like what? [00:12:35] Speaker E: Oh, well, I got the deal of a lifetime in a store, a valance for curtains, and I got very good customer service, and I said, how do I put it up on the wall? So she gave me a Valkyrie curtain rod and I was going to the store and my husband said, let me carry that for you. So he carried my curtains and my Valkyrie curtain rod, not knowing he had stuck the curtain rod on my back to my knitted coat sweater. And I was walking through the mall and he was walking behind me, laughing. And I turned around and I didn't know what was wrong. Don't tell me why I didn't notice a 46 inch crouton stuck to my back. But anyhow, this is what he did, and I was most embarrassed by it because the malls were quite cluttered and I drew a lot of attention to myself there. But I thought I'd share that with you. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Well, that doesn't mean he's not romantic. Though he may be a practical joker or like to fool around, as we kids say, but it doesn't mean he's not romantic. Is he romantic, you think? He's not at all. [00:13:46] Speaker E: Well, I guess he is romantic, but right now he's fast asleep. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Well, I mean, a person can be romantic and fast asleep, too. [00:13:54] Speaker E: You think so? I thought he would have been up all night helping me put up the Christmas tree and all. [00:14:00] Speaker B: When is your anniversary? Your first anniversary? [00:14:03] Speaker E: December 4. It was a Friday. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Okay. Was this this past day then, or two days ago? December 4. Are you happy with the way the year has gone? [00:14:12] Speaker E: December 4. [00:14:14] Speaker B: Pardon me? December 4 is Saturday. [00:14:18] Speaker E: This is not Saturday. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Well, now it's Sunday. [00:14:22] Speaker E: No, I think you're wrong. [00:14:24] Speaker B: No, it is. It's 20 minutes to three. So we're past and we're now into Sunday the fifth. So your anniversary is the fourth. [00:14:34] Speaker E: That's right, Norm. You are right. I didn't realize it was so late. [00:14:38] Speaker B: That's because I'm older and wiser. I know dates and everything. Unless you're just waking up. You would still think of it as still being Saturday. I know that. [00:14:48] Speaker E: All right. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Now, did you have a good anniversary? Did he show any romantic inclinations at all, or did he just act silly? [00:14:56] Speaker E: No, he took me out for dinner and we went to his Christmas party and danced all Friday night. But he didn't really last very long on the dance floor. [00:15:07] Speaker B: My wife used to say the same thing about me. [00:15:10] Speaker E: Oh, you had the same problem. [00:15:12] Speaker B: No, I cannot dance and I don't like to dance, and I feel uncomfortable doing that. But it didn't mean I didn't love my wife very dearly and I loved holding her. But dancing was something that totally eluded me always. I mean, not just in recent years, but when I was a kid, really, we would go to dances and I would not go to dances because I hated dancing. [00:15:36] Speaker E: Well, why is that, Norm? [00:15:38] Speaker B: Because I'm a clumsy oaf. [00:15:41] Speaker E: Well, you see, today it's a lot different. You get up and you look as clumsy as possible, as silly as possible, and you would be a great dancer. People don't dance together. They dance about a foot apart each other. [00:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah, but see, that kind of dancing, I never saw any point to that at all. [00:15:58] Speaker E: Any point of getting up there and looking silly? [00:16:01] Speaker B: No, I think the point of dancing is a slow dance, where you hold your partner and snuggle close and say lovely things to each other. Which you could do, I think, even sitting down, I suppose, or just standing there, not moving. But this dancing without even touching each other, I don't see any point to that. [00:16:22] Speaker E: You don't? [00:16:23] Speaker B: No. You obviously do. [00:16:25] Speaker E: Well, I think it's fun and it's great exercise. [00:16:28] Speaker B: Okay, exercise is one thing, but I'm talking about we're dancing close and holding. [00:16:35] Speaker E: Close and holding? [00:16:36] Speaker B: Yeah. That's not the same as exercise. And when I want to exercise, that's one thing, but when I want to dance and get romantic, that's a whole other thing. [00:16:44] Speaker E: That's a whole other thing. Yeah, I don't know. I think you can do both. You can have fun and then on the waltzes, be romantic. See, dancing is and going out dancing is supposed to be fun, and you make it fun and romantic. So you get up and you look kind of silly dancing around the dance floor, and then you waltz together to be romantic. [00:17:06] Speaker B: Okay, see, but I don't think you're going to look silly because other people are going through the same thing you are, and they're probably not paying any attention. They're probably feeling that they're as silly looking as you are. [00:17:16] Speaker E: Yes. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Okay. Now, where does your husband fit into all this? Does he like the slow dancing? [00:17:23] Speaker E: He likes neither. He likes to sit and talk with everybody. [00:17:28] Speaker B: Oh, Chad. I don't know what to do for you, Gene. [00:17:30] Speaker E: I don't know what to do for myself. [00:17:32] Speaker B: Do you think you're married a real? [00:17:34] Speaker E: No, he's not a dud. [00:17:37] Speaker B: No, he's okay. [00:17:38] Speaker E: He's okay. [00:17:39] Speaker B: Well, that's good then. He's passed the first year test. [00:17:43] Speaker E: Yes, he has passed the first year test. [00:17:45] Speaker B: Okay, what does he do now? What do you both do? What kind of business are you guys in? [00:17:50] Speaker E: Well, I'm a teller and my husband works for the government. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:57] Speaker E: Yeah. [00:17:57] Speaker B: So you're both career people or something? That was a stupid call myself a career. I don't know why I said that. That doesn't make any sense, what I just said, but anybody who doesn't dance too well, they don't make any sense. He won't. They're talking. Yeah, I don't know whether you noticed that or not, but it's a rule of thumb. You can't make out anything I'm talking about, can you? And I don't blame you. I don't even understand it, either. Oh, well, but he did take you out on your first anniversary, though. [00:18:31] Speaker E: Well, he took me shopping. [00:18:33] Speaker B: That's not a romantic thing to do on a first anniversary. [00:18:36] Speaker E: I think it's a fun thing to do to go out and spend a little money on things. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Yeah, but I was thinking first anniversary would be a nice dinner candlelight. [00:18:48] Speaker E: Well, he did offer to take me to highs, and I said, I want to put up the Christmas tree, make it an annual event anniversary. [00:18:56] Speaker B: So what did he do? He went to bed. While you put up the tree? [00:18:59] Speaker E: Yes. I hauled it up out of the basement. Two big, huge boxes. It's incredible how many Christmas ornaments you accumulate. So we had two big, huge boxes, and I left one box in the basement. [00:19:13] Speaker B: You sound like a rugged lady, then to be able to pull all that stuff up by yourself. [00:19:18] Speaker E: Well, I just pushed the box up the stairs. It was kind of like a long box. And if you have it on the right angle, you just have to push the box. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Okay. [00:19:29] Speaker E: Getting it down the stairs is a lot easier because you just let it. [00:19:32] Speaker B: Slide, especially if you got fragile ornaments in there. That's always a good method. [00:19:37] Speaker E: Well, you have to be careful with your packing. You have to be a good packer. [00:19:42] Speaker B: Okay. Now, how does the tree look? Is it really fantastic? One of the great trees of all time in Canada? [00:19:47] Speaker E: Well, it's only halfway up. It's only halfway up, so you have to take it out of the box and it kind of, like, folds down, and then you got to spread all these little things out on it. [00:20:00] Speaker B: This is not a real tree, then? [00:20:01] Speaker E: No, we recycle our tree every year. This is an artificial tree, then it's an artificial. It's a very good artificial. You wouldn't know it's an artificial. [00:20:11] Speaker B: It looks real. [00:20:12] Speaker E: It looks real. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Okay, so you have half of it up. [00:20:16] Speaker E: Yes. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Now what happens? You're going to stay up all the rest of the night to get the other half up? [00:20:20] Speaker E: That's right. [00:20:22] Speaker B: This guy's going to sleep through all of this, and when he gets up in the morning, or whenever he gets up, he'll say, what a beautiful tree you put together. I love you dearly. [00:20:32] Speaker E: Yes. And I think it would be a nice surprise, don't you? [00:20:36] Speaker B: I think it would be a lovely surprise. [00:20:41] Speaker E: Do you have a real tree, Norm, or do you get an artificial? [00:20:46] Speaker B: No, a real tree. [00:20:47] Speaker E: A real tree? [00:20:48] Speaker B: Well, yeah. [00:20:49] Speaker E: Don't you feel guilty having a real tree? [00:20:53] Speaker B: Well, see, I live out in the woods, and there are all kinds of trees around there. [00:20:57] Speaker E: Oh, I see. So as you're clearing a path, you'll take a tree to put up in your house. Over the years, I find eugene, I. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Find you very difficult to deal with. [00:21:07] Speaker E: Why is that? [00:21:08] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:21:09] Speaker E: Because I am asking you the question. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Yeah, because I don't feel as comfortable with you. Because you challenge me to a lot of things. [00:21:19] Speaker E: Well, I am challenging you now and discussing your trees. So it'll take you about ten years to clear a path to your house because you'll be chopping down one tree every year? [00:21:30] Speaker B: Well, not really. No. There aren't that many trees there, there, and there's certainly not all that many Christmas trees. [00:21:36] Speaker E: Oh, you don't have that many Christmas trees? [00:21:38] Speaker B: You're challenging me again. See the way you're doing? No. No, I don't, actually. [00:21:46] Speaker E: Norm, I might be getting you into trouble with all these environmentally friendly people. [00:21:50] Speaker B: No, I don't know what to say, Gene. I'm just kind of sitting here giggling like a schoolboy. [00:21:57] Speaker E: Well, that's okay. [00:21:58] Speaker B: You got me befuddled here. I am a sophisticated, you know, a really tough guy, and I'm falling apart under your questioning. [00:22:07] Speaker E: Well, Norm, I didn't think you were a tough guy. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Obviously, you're right. [00:22:11] Speaker E: Yes, you're too soft spoken. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Okay. Hey, listen, I wish you a very happy Christmas and a very happy anniversary. [00:22:20] Speaker E: Thank you. [00:22:21] Speaker B: And if you'll keep in touch, I'd appreciate that. Call me. Especially when your husband's sleeping, because I feel like we're doing something kind of promiscuous here while he's not listening. Oh, now you're going to challenge me to that? I know you are. I know you're going to yell at me. [00:22:32] Speaker E: No, I'm sure someone else will have a comment for you. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Okay, take care. [00:22:37] Speaker E: Bye bye. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Bye. Do you hear me giggling like a schoolboy? Not many women can do that to me, but she did that to me. And I'll get even one day yet. Anyway, this year, delight everybody on your Christmas shopping list with the sounds of Christmas past. How do you do that, you ask? 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That's your name and address to Heritage Radio Post Office Park 16, Boston, 2167. And give a distinctive vintage radio gift from Heritage. If you suffer from motion sickness, listen to Linda Kern of Lahaina, Hawaii. [00:24:42] Speaker E: I get everything that moves sick car, air boat, you name. [00:24:46] Speaker B: Good. [00:24:47] Speaker F: That's good. Last time we talked, we talked about public television and some of the interesting stuff that was going on there. And tonight was really interesting. They had an Andy Williams special and a Mel Tormet special. [00:25:02] Speaker B: Wow. [00:25:03] Speaker F: I thought they were really great. Just the type of musical variety show that I used to enjoy on network television. But I guess networks don't want to take a chance with them anymore. So happily, public television has picked them up. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Now, you know what I noticed before I left the house earlier on Saturday evening? I noticed Channel Two was broadcasting Roger Whitaker, which is public television, and Channel Eleven up in Durham, New Hampshire, which is public television, and they were doing Lawrence Welk. Now, I never thought of when you think of public television, think of something with some educational value. And I never thought of either Roger Whitaker or Lawrence Welk as quite fitting that category. And yet I know they do a lot of Lawrence Welk. Does that seem to you to fit on public television? [00:26:03] Speaker F: Well, I think public television is trying to broaden its scope a little bit. I think they're trying to include entertainment, not necessarily just of the educational nature. I mean, there is a certain type of entertainment that can be educational, but I think what they're trying to do is put a certain amount of entertainment in their programming so that they'll attract more. [00:26:30] Speaker B: But Lawrence Welk you know, forgive me anybody who's a Lawrence Welk fan or Roger Whitaker and I know they both have fans that's pretty schlock stuff. And that doesn't seem to make any sense to me on educational television. [00:26:45] Speaker F: Yeah, but who says it's just educational television? [00:26:48] Speaker B: Well, I mean, that's what public television is supposed to be. Is it not a quality a little above the usual commercial kind of stuff? [00:26:56] Speaker F: I kind of agree with you. To be honest with know, I liked Lawrence Welk as a kid, and I don't particularly care for him. Whitaker, I don't know. I think Roger Whitaker's got a little bit more talent, a little bit more sophistication than Lawrence Welps gang ever had. [00:27:12] Speaker B: But both of those people that's pretty straight commercial kind of stuff. It's not the kind that you would tune into public television to see, I wouldn't think. [00:27:22] Speaker F: I don't know. I kind of agree with you on Lawrence. Well, Roger Whitaker, I think, is a good entertainer and I think his music would be considered listenable, by even educated, if you want to use that term, people, musicians and stuff like that. I don't think you'd have any problem with people like Roger Whitaker. And because, you know, educational doesn't necessarily have to be serious, disciplined, intellectual stuff. It can be enlightening. [00:27:54] Speaker B: Oh, sure. No, I don't disagree with that. I see. Mel Tormaine, to me, makes a whole lot of sense. The Duke Ellington band would make a whole lot of sense. What about Andy? [00:28:04] Speaker F: Do you like Andy Williams? [00:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but I don't see him being on that kind of television, either. Well, he's very pleasant and all that, but that isn't what I think of when I think of public public television. I just don't think of that. [00:28:21] Speaker F: Like I say, Norm, I think we have to break away from that traditionalistic view of public. I think it's changing it's a little bit behind the times. In other words, you're not going to see an Andy Williams special on the regular networks because they don't want to take a chance with it. And that's where, I guess, public television comes in. If it's something the networks don't want. [00:28:45] Speaker C: To take. [00:28:48] Speaker F: And there's a certain audience for it, then why shouldn't public television pick it up? [00:28:53] Speaker B: Well, obviously they agree with you because they are doing of, as we say, we kids say, just blowing in the wind. [00:29:02] Speaker F: Anyway, I think the Andy Williams and the Mel Tormey special were great. [00:29:07] Speaker B: Okay. So I happen to be a Meltorme fan, and I think he's an unusually in fact, an incredibly good vocalist, so I could see him. Okay. But anyway, I guess we both made our points. Okay. [00:29:19] Speaker F: I think we had a lively discussion here. We're going to get all your listeners participating in I also I wonder if Perry Como's going around the country doing a Christmas show. He came to Lowell last year, and I don't think he's coming this year. [00:29:35] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I haven't heard much about him lately. Although last time I saw him, he looked pretty good. [00:29:40] Speaker F: He sounded great. [00:29:41] Speaker B: Yeah. He's still hanging in there. [00:29:43] Speaker F: He's still hanging in there. Still got a good singing voice. He's one of those people who's taken good care of his singing voice, which, sadly enough, the Chairman of the Board. [00:29:52] Speaker B: Has not done well. Yeah, of course. The Chairman of the Board is, what, 78 years old? I mean, how long can you keep singing? And I'm a big Sinatra fan, but I think it comes a time when you kind of hang it up and rest on your laurels. And he sort of got enough. [00:30:07] Speaker F: Pericomo would be 81 now because he was 81. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't realize. He's even older than Sinatra then. I didn't realize that. Okay. [00:30:14] Speaker F: Yeah, he is. And he can still sing, or I should say as of last December, he could still sing extremely well. I was amazed. And I don't know how old Andy Williams is. [00:30:26] Speaker B: No, he's quite a. Good deal younger, I think, than either one of them. I don't know. I don't think he's older than well, maybe. I bet I can tell you. [00:30:36] Speaker F: 60 ish. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I think probably in that area. Let's see. I should know that because we're going to play the encyclopedia. Well, we play the dumb birthday game here. Well, we guess people's ages, so I should know. Andy Williams, let's see, he was either born January 29, august 20, Eigth, or December 3. There are three references to him, is that right? Well, some may have to. Let me look up January 29. If that's his birthday. I'll tell you right off how old he is. [00:31:09] Speaker F: My guess would be 60th, but I. [00:31:11] Speaker B: Can'T give you the exact 60th you say, okay, I should have started looking this up earlier. I don't know. He was not born on January 29. If we could just keep holding off until I really bore people out of their skulls while I look for this. [00:31:31] Speaker F: While you're looking it up, I'll try to guess your age. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Well, I've told my age on the air a lot of times. [00:31:37] Speaker F: I think you said 68. [00:31:39] Speaker B: I will be 68. And December 20. Happy birthday. Well, thank you very much. The reason I say that is because I'm probably the only broadcaster who admits how old he is, and I'm not too terribly proud of that, but that is it. No, he was not born August 20 eigth. So let's look up December. [00:32:00] Speaker F: I'm really putting you to work tonight. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Well, not only that, but almost embarrassing, but we're holding up the entire program while I look up somebody's birthday. And this is going to be the really most boring moment. Okay. Andy Williams on December 3, just this very week, turned 65. As a matter of fact, he's a little older than we were guessing. [00:32:22] Speaker F: 65. [00:32:23] Speaker B: 65 years old. [00:32:24] Speaker F: Well, I dare say that his voice is better at 65 than Sinatra's was at 65. [00:32:31] Speaker B: Well, that's 13 years ago for Sinatra's. I don't remember how old he was back then. I mean, what he sounded like rather. [00:32:38] Speaker F: I think when Sinatra did New York, New York, he was 65. And that song is kind of weird when you come right down to it, because at the end, he takes the word and he stretches it out to the most ridiculous exaggeration when he goes. [00:32:56] Speaker B: And. [00:32:59] Speaker F: If I make it there, I'm going to make it anywhere. And it's just amazing how you just take that conjunction and then make it sound so ridiculous. [00:33:09] Speaker B: I don't know. See, I'm a fan of his, and I thought I loved that, and I like that. [00:33:13] Speaker F: Oh, do you really? [00:33:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I do. Anyway, I gotta get going. Hank. [00:33:17] Speaker F: Nice talking. [00:33:17] Speaker B: Now that we settled all these people are on, the fact that I think Lawrence Welk on channel two for public television is supposed to have some educational value still does not make any sense to me. Rich chocolate oval team when my six year old comes home from school. I know. Denny's. Yes. Danvers Mass. Yes. [00:33:41] Speaker D: That's the last time. So I don't expect that you'll remember me by name of voice, but I also was a very good friend of Ken Wilson's. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Okay. That's the organ player we're talking about that I worked with over at WHDH a few years ago. [00:33:53] Speaker D: That's right. When I heard Dennis's call, I was pleased to hear any talk of the castle, and I also had some information to pick up where his left off, if that's of interest to you or any of your listeners. [00:34:03] Speaker B: Yes, I'd be very pleased to hear about it. [00:34:06] Speaker D: The broadcast that he talked about was on April 5, 1942, and that was over WBZ, and it was across the United States because it was a big thing then to tune into the radio to hear things of this sort. And they premiered a piece, which is the first time that that organ was heard publicly. [00:34:25] Speaker B: Okay. The first time the organ at the Hammond Castle at Gloucester was heard publicly in 1942. Right. [00:34:31] Speaker D: April 5. And I have the document in front of me because I also have all the history of the castle. I can answer anything anybody wants to know. And Epowla Biggs was the organist. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Now, how do you happen to know that much about that place? [00:34:44] Speaker D: Because I spent a good part of my growing up years at the castle, and I was also a student of Ken Wilson's. [00:34:51] Speaker B: Oh, really? So you're an organ player, too, then? Yes. [00:34:54] Speaker D: And his widow Billy is living in Andover, Mass. And off there, I can even give you her phone number because she's very happy to hear from anyone because she has fond memories of the castle, too. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Okay, I'll turn you back to Sid. He can take the information. [00:35:09] Speaker D: Is there any other information you want. [00:35:11] Speaker B: To no, that would be it. Are you actively involved with the organ right now? No. [00:35:17] Speaker D: And that's part of the reason that I call Norm because, unfortunately, right now, the Attorney General's office is conducting an investigation because all of the people who are associated there for years as supporters and employees have been let go. And the trustees there now have little regard for any of the history or the castle or the organ. And we're asking that anyone who has any interest in the castle and has fond memories of what a wonderful place it was, call the Division of Charitable Trust, ask for Richard Allen, and let them know that you support the castle, because the castle's collection is being liquidated, and that organ will probably be history in just a matter of time, too. And we're trying to prevent this from happening, but there has to be public interest. If there's no public interest, the castle will disappear. And that's why Dennis hasn't heard much about it in recent years. [00:36:05] Speaker B: Now, I don't quite understand. Why is the Attorney General involved in this. [00:36:09] Speaker D: You see, Mr. Hammond left a will, which, unfortunately, was somewhat vague. I don't think he had any idea that when he left it to the Catholic Church that the Catholic Church would not be able to take care of it forever and ever, like he thought in 1965. So when they turned it over to a board of trustees established to pick up where they left off, the board of trustees now consists of people who really try to make it look as though they have interest in running the castle. But basically what they're doing is liquidating it. The organ, for the most part, is not playable. Much of the collection has been sold, and this is just going to continue until probably it'll end up as condominiums. [00:36:48] Speaker B: I'm sorry to hear okay. Okay. I appreciate you bringing us up today with that. I had not heard at all about. [00:36:56] Speaker D: And I know you're a resident of the North Shore and perhaps even enjoyed Ken Wilson's concerts over the years. And yes, I mean, at one time there were eight Christmas concerts and the place was full. This year there are none at all. That organ, again, is in very much danger, and I would hate to see it leave this area. [00:37:12] Speaker B: Thank you very much for bringing us up today with that, Steve. I appreciate it. Thank you, Norm. Take care. Good night. Bye bye. Isn't that sad? I hadn't heard about that at all. Okay. Hey, the dumb birthday game coming right up. Michael Cook of Grand Prairie, Texas, is telling us about his skin, eddie, who's in Austin. Hello. Hello again, Eddie. [00:37:30] Speaker C: Hi, Norm. How you doing? [00:37:31] Speaker B: Good. Are you all excited about the game? I imagine you must be, because it must be quite a thrill for you. It is. [00:37:36] Speaker C: I've never played it before. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Never played it? Oh, you've been a virgin. [00:37:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Well, no. [00:37:42] Speaker C: My age. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Well, I'm not talking that other kind. I mean virgin so far as the game is concerned. Okay. Helen's going to be playing the game with us, too. Aren't you, Helen? [00:37:50] Speaker E: Hi, Norm. [00:37:51] Speaker B: Hey, nice to have you. I know you've been with us. [00:37:54] Speaker E: My image of you was shattered tonight. [00:37:57] Speaker B: How's that? [00:37:58] Speaker E: When Pat can stump anybody, they're in bad shape. You didn't know anything about a Christmas tree? [00:38:07] Speaker B: Oh, no. I suggested that planting a tree in January did seem a little bit OD to me, but Pat, of all people he stumped you, I suppose, if you want to put it that way. Helen. I mean, whose side are you on anyway? For God's sakes, Helen. We have amy from Boston also is with us. Hi, Amy. [00:38:26] Speaker E: Hello. [00:38:27] Speaker B: Oh, hello. Just playing a you're not you're not too gabby, are you? [00:38:32] Speaker E: I don't feel good. [00:38:34] Speaker B: You don't feel good? [00:38:35] Speaker E: No. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Oh, my. Do you feel well enough to play this exciting game? [00:38:39] Speaker E: Maybe it'll make played before. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah, it might make you feel better. All you do is I tell you the name of somebody born on this date, and you guess their age. Does that sound thrilling to you? [00:38:50] Speaker E: Yes. [00:38:51] Speaker B: Well, I'm glad. You sound just so darn enthusiastic. [00:38:55] Speaker E: I think I ate some bad turkey. [00:38:59] Speaker B: That was last Thanksgiving. You probably ate it several days after Thanksgiving, too. Is that right? [00:39:05] Speaker E: Yes. [00:39:06] Speaker B: And it's beginning to come up on you. Now, you're not going to throw up on us or anything of that nature, because I don't have any provisions for throwing up during the dumb birthday game. Okay. Are you a young person? [00:39:19] Speaker E: Yes. [00:39:20] Speaker B: How old are you? [00:39:21] Speaker E: 13. [00:39:22] Speaker B: You're 13? Oh, well, then you can throw up. That's okay. If you're 13, you can throw up. That's good. Not yet, though. [00:39:29] Speaker E: Okay. [00:39:30] Speaker B: And not on the phone because I hate that sound. I'm getting sickening. Okay. Mark in New Hampshire. How are you doing, Mark? [00:39:38] Speaker C: Good evening. How are you? [00:39:39] Speaker B: Fine. Where are you? In New Hampshire? [00:39:40] Speaker C: Up in Hudson. [00:39:42] Speaker B: Hudson, New Hampshire? [00:39:43] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:39:44] Speaker B: Okay. That's Jack Armstrong's hometown, right? [00:39:47] Speaker C: Between Salem and Nashua. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Know the area very well. [00:39:51] Speaker C: And thank you. Oh, just so much. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Okay. And you've never played this dumb birthday game with sir? [00:39:57] Speaker C: I haven't, but I played it in the truck. [00:40:00] Speaker B: Okay, then you know how it goes. Okay, and we have Sid, are you handy any place? Right here, Norm. Oh, there you are. You're sitting down. I didn't straight too far. Okay. Sid, that's my stepfather. Pardon me? Oh, I'm sorry. See, when you're talking to the phone, which is permanently plugged in on the air, we can hear you. [00:40:22] Speaker E: Amy, I was talking to my cat. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Oh, that's okay. What's your cat's name? Ma Mount. [00:40:28] Speaker E: Ma? [00:40:30] Speaker B: Yeah, just plain ma. Like in mother. Yes. [00:40:34] Speaker C: This is Eddie. My cat's name is Clyde. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Well, I don't know that anybody asked you that. [00:40:41] Speaker C: I couldn't help it. I was talking to him as she was talking to hers. [00:40:45] Speaker B: I see. Okay, so this is going to be the way this game is going to be going, eh? [00:40:49] Speaker C: You don't want to know what my kid's name is. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Well, I guess now we do DJ. DJ? [00:40:56] Speaker C: Yeah, like in no, no, not DJ BJ. [00:41:00] Speaker E: As in BJ store? [00:41:02] Speaker C: No boogie, Jr. Oh, you got a. [00:41:07] Speaker B: Laugh out of Amy. That makes her feel much better now. Okay, we also have because we have Bruce Connolly, who's playing the game with us. Hi, Bruce. Hi, Norm. [00:41:18] Speaker G: I don't have a cat. [00:41:19] Speaker B: Oh, I have three of them, so I have enough cats to cover you. [00:41:23] Speaker G: All right. [00:41:24] Speaker B: And they're all really swell. And as a result, anybody who has a cat is familiar. Well, never mind. [00:41:34] Speaker G: Hey, you know what I don't hear this week is anybody breathing heavy. [00:41:39] Speaker B: We had a woman who had I think she had an asthmatic condition or something of that nature. [00:41:43] Speaker G: Yeah, I don't know, but it seems the last couple of weeks you've had people on and breathing heavy on the yeah, yeah. [00:41:49] Speaker B: In a way, it was kind of exciting, except it sounded like more like an ailment rather than a passionate kind of yeah. Bruce, maybe you could step in. [00:42:01] Speaker G: We'll see how the game goes. If it starts to lack a little maybe I'll start and we have a. [00:42:05] Speaker B: Staff member from WBZ who probably could breathe so sensuously that will probably put everybody else to shame, but I hope he won't do that now. Ed Donahue is with us on the line. Hi, Ed. [00:42:17] Speaker C: Hey, Norm. [00:42:19] Speaker B: You have never played the game with us before. [00:42:21] Speaker C: I played the board game, yeah. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Oh, you're board game. And of course, we have an electronic version, the Game Boy version of the dumb birthday game. We have electronic and we have a board game and all that of this. So it's exciting and it's available at stores everywhere. I just said that, and that's really stupid. Okay, I'll tell you who was born this day. You tell me how old they are. Incidentally, before we do that, I must tell you we didn't play the game this past day because of all kinds of technical glitches and stuff. So I didn't mention the fact that December 4, which was Saturday, the day before this, was the birthday of Deanna Durbin. And that may not seem anything much to anybody here because you're all kind of young. How about you, Helen? You know Deanna Durbin? [00:43:09] Speaker E: No, that was before my time. [00:43:11] Speaker C: I know who she is. [00:43:14] Speaker B: She was the woman she was a young girl at the time who all of us guys fell desperately in love. [00:43:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:22] Speaker B: We'd go to the movies and if it was a Deanna Durbin movie, like A Hundred Men and a Girl, which was Leah Polstakovsky in the orchestra, and Deanna Durbin was a singer. She sang songs like it's raining sunshine. Oh, no. Yeah. Or raining. Sunbeams, I think was the name. A number of movies. Anyway, this was her birthday on December 4. Somehow I feel like I'm the only one who's excited about I'm way younger than you knock. Oh, just be quiet, Helen. She was 72 years old, 73, that little kid. She was on a radio show, the Eddie Cannon Radio Show, at the age of 13. And she was a child star. Went to live in France, and that's where she's been outside of Paris for a number of years and just was tremendously popular. Went to Paris, married and never made another appearance again. Kind of was satisfied with her success in the movies and never milked it, never came back, leaving us guys heartbroken. Okay. But anyway, today's the version. Boy, I'm glad I brought that up. I thought that would strike a resounding chord in people's souls, but it means nothing. Jim Messina of the team of Loggins and Messina. This is his birthday, December 5. The biggest hit that they did was Your Mama Won't Dance, which they did in 1973. Note these dates so they can help piece together their age. At one time, Jim was a member of Buffalo Springfield and also Poco. Okay. Your mama owned Dance, 1973. How old do you think he is today, Eddie? [00:45:04] Speaker C: I saw them once. Jim Crochet was the opening act, and I would say that Jim Messina is 52. [00:45:11] Speaker B: 52, okay. What do you think, Helen? [00:45:13] Speaker E: 50. [00:45:17] Speaker B: What do you think, Amy? [00:45:19] Speaker E: 60. [00:45:22] Speaker B: Okay. And Mark? [00:45:23] Speaker C: I'd say 46. [00:45:26] Speaker B: 46. And Sid? I'll be real creative and say 51. Now, what's creative about saying 50? 01:00. A.m. I missing something here. It's going so far out on a limb, Norm. I mean, everybody else saying 50 and 52 and 53 and 49. You got it. Okay. Bruce, what do you think? [00:45:50] Speaker G: Well, because of my extensive album collection. [00:45:52] Speaker B: Of his, I know he's a favorite of yours. You have all of his stuff here. [00:45:57] Speaker G: Yeah, with every group he was ever in. I know that he's 47 years old. [00:46:02] Speaker B: 47 years old. And Ed Donnie, who probably has all of Jim Hasina's records, too, and then some. [00:46:08] Speaker C: I got the eight tracks. [00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:12] Speaker C: 48. [00:46:13] Speaker B: 48. Okay. He actually is 46 is what Mark said. 46 years old today. As we say 48. 46 years young. Did you already know that, Mark, or was that just a guess? [00:46:26] Speaker C: That was a very good guess because you said Buffalo Springfield. [00:46:31] Speaker B: I did say buffalo. Now, what was the clue there? [00:46:34] Speaker C: Well, the Buffalo Springfield, one of the youngest members of any band was Peter Frampton at 17. So I figured he was 20. I added another 20 years and I said, well, maybe just a little bit older. 46. [00:46:48] Speaker B: Very good. Excellent. Who's breathing hard? [00:46:51] Speaker C: I was thinking of Stephen Stills and Neil Young. [00:46:55] Speaker G: Somebody's breathing heavy. [00:46:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Who is this? Is that you, Helen? [00:46:58] Speaker G: No, no one's confessing now. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Come on, Bruce. Okay. Today's Little Richard's birthday. Little Richard born Richard Penneman in Macon, Georgia. [00:47:12] Speaker E: Biggest what kind of name is that? [00:47:15] Speaker B: I beg your pardon? Does that name offend you? Richard Penneman sounds funny. Richard Peneman sounds funny. [00:47:24] Speaker E: I'm sorry. I don't know what I'm talking about. [00:47:27] Speaker B: Well, you're ready to do this program? I've been getting along on that kind of an attitude for years. [00:47:34] Speaker G: Apparently, he agreed with you because he changed it to Little Richard. [00:47:37] Speaker B: That's right. Do you think little Richard is a nicer name than Richard Peneman? Richard Peneman does sound like a certified public account, doesn't it? [00:47:45] Speaker C: Hey. Nom. [00:47:46] Speaker B: Yes? [00:47:46] Speaker C: Can I say something? [00:47:47] Speaker B: Well, you're going to say it anyway, aren't you? Is it going to be interesting or are you going to be really boring? [00:47:52] Speaker C: He should have been nominated for an Oscar in down and out in an absolute he stole that movie. [00:47:57] Speaker B: He was an absolute scream. He was funny in that movie. That's true. The movie itself was funny, though. I thought everybody was pretty good in that. [00:48:04] Speaker C: I thought he should have got a Best Supporting Actor nomination. [00:48:07] Speaker B: Okay, let me write that down. [00:48:10] Speaker C: He'll tell you the same thing, too, if he was here. [00:48:12] Speaker B: Yeah. His biggest hit was Long Tall Sally. Is that a funny name to you, too, Amy? Okay. He did that in 1956. He also recorded, of course, Tootie Fruity, which everybody identifies with him with, and with a now famous line, it says here. Now famous line, boom. Can you say that, Amy? Yeah, let me hear you say that. [00:48:49] Speaker E: My father has his records. My grandmother and my dad have all kinds of old records of Little Richard. [00:48:55] Speaker B: Or just a whole lot of old records of everybody. [00:48:58] Speaker E: All these people I don't know because. [00:49:00] Speaker C: I saw him in 1970. [00:49:01] Speaker B: Yeah. He wrote a book about his life, of course, and is now an ordained minister. I didn't know that part. Did you know that, Amy? [00:49:10] Speaker E: That will explain a lot of things. [00:49:13] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. I didn't dare ask you to explain that. [00:49:16] Speaker E: No, because he looked like he'd be doing the Holy Ghost every five minutes. He be walking. [00:49:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I suppose that's probably so. Yeah. [00:49:24] Speaker E: I'm trying to be. [00:49:27] Speaker B: No, you're very cheerful. No, it's really nice. But it must be tough for you to stay awake at this time of the day. [00:49:33] Speaker E: Oh, I'm awake. I was up watching videos to, like, two, and I started reading. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Oh, and you just happened to tune us in? Well, that was a nice thing to do. You're obviously a bright student. [00:49:45] Speaker E: I listen to y'all at camp. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Pardon me? [00:49:47] Speaker E: I listen to you guys at camp. [00:49:50] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Good. Thank you. Let's start with you, Ed Donahue. Little Richard, if you would guess his age, how old do you think he is today? Yeah, that's right, too. [00:50:01] Speaker G: Yeah, he actually married off a celebrity couple, and I can't remember now who it was, but it wasn't that long ago, either, so he does do that stuff still. [00:50:14] Speaker B: So he's an active minister as well. As I tell you. [00:50:18] Speaker G: I wouldn't mind him marrying me off. That would be kind of neat. He could be the preacher and the entertainer for the wedding. [00:50:24] Speaker B: That's right, too. You could save some funds. Maybe he would cater. [00:50:28] Speaker C: Also, he doesn't marry you? [00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:31] Speaker G: Well, yes, as long as he doesn't go too far there. But I know that he's 61. [00:50:36] Speaker B: He's 61, you say? Okay. To which I say a what? BOP a loop up a lot. I love saying that because it clears out my sinuses. And Sid Whitaker. What do you think? I think 59. 59? Did you say 59? Why I did? Yeah. Are you from around here? Are you from some strange far off land? I'm from upstate New York, if you want to call. Yeah, that is strange. That's strange territory. 59. Mark, what do you think? [00:51:13] Speaker C: 61. [00:51:14] Speaker B: 61, okay. And Amy, what do you think? [00:51:17] Speaker E: Can't go against the crowd. [00:51:19] Speaker B: 61, you say 61 also. Okay. And, Helen? [00:51:23] Speaker E: I'll say 60. [00:51:24] Speaker B: And what would you say, Eddie? [00:51:26] Speaker C: I say 61 also. [00:51:28] Speaker B: 61 also. Why are you saying that? Because so many others have said that. [00:51:32] Speaker C: When did you say his first big hit was good? It wasn't good. Goalie, miss Molly. 56. [00:51:36] Speaker B: Yeah, 56. Long, tall, south, very young. [00:51:39] Speaker C: At that time, he had just left Georgia, where he'd been working as a dishwasher, and he had come north. Now he is the original king of rock and roll. I saw him at 70 at the old Boston Tea Party. He was hot. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Yeah, he's fun to watch. He's a very vibrant, vivacious kind of man, I tell you. I have two ages for him. I have the Associated Press list and also this book that we have on birthdays. One list. Them is 59, and the other list of 61. So anybody who said either one will be the winner. And that includes everybody except Alan. [00:52:16] Speaker E: Right. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Who said 60. [00:52:18] Speaker E: I know. [00:52:19] Speaker B: So ed. Donnie, who said 59? Bruce said 61, sid said 59, mark and Amy and Eddie all said 61. So everybody wins except you, Helen. [00:52:33] Speaker E: That's the jovi of my life. [00:52:36] Speaker B: I imagine it is, Helen. And if I were you, I'd be despondent. [00:52:40] Speaker E: I am. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Okay. Maybe you can make a comeback with Morgan Brittany. [00:52:45] Speaker C: Who is he? [00:52:47] Speaker B: Morgan, who is he? He's a cross dresser and a darn good looking one. And darn, darn good looking one. Her name at birth was Suzanne Cupito. C-U-P-I-T-O from Hollywood, California. Appears occasionally on Dallas, is married to a stuntman, Jack Gill. They have a daughter and his name now anyway, that's Morgan Brittany. She's quite attractive. Yes, it has been canceled. [00:53:21] Speaker E: I'm a radio person. [00:53:22] Speaker B: I don't watch call. That's too bad, because she's mostly television. She's been guest on other programs, too. Morgan Brittany. Okay, we'll start with you, Helen, because thanks a lot. I knew you'd like that. [00:53:37] Speaker E: Because you're I would say 40. [00:53:40] Speaker B: You'd say 40? [00:53:41] Speaker E: I don't even know what I'm talking about. [00:53:43] Speaker B: Well, that's no, never mind. Okay, amy, what do you think? [00:53:49] Speaker E: 39. [00:53:51] Speaker B: You say she's 39. Okay. How about how about you, Eddie, what do you think? [00:54:04] Speaker C: I say 42. [00:54:05] Speaker B: 42. [00:54:07] Speaker C: That's my age also. [00:54:08] Speaker B: That's your age of 42. My goodness sakes. Somebody must have dialed the phone for you. [00:54:15] Speaker G: Remember that? Pencil to pencil that in in the book there. [00:54:19] Speaker C: Hey, thanks a lot. I appreciate that. [00:54:22] Speaker B: Sid, what do you think? How old do you think Morgan Brittany is? I'm going to say 37. 37. Okay. And Ed, what do you think? [00:54:34] Speaker C: 38. [00:54:35] Speaker B: 38 years of age, as we used to say. 38 years young. Okay. Yeah. Mark, what do you think? [00:54:48] Speaker C: 43. [00:54:49] Speaker B: And let's see. Bruce? [00:54:52] Speaker G: She's 42. [00:54:53] Speaker B: She's 42. Okay. I actually have two ages listed here and the two different services. One says 43 and the other says 42. So either way, hey, Mark said 43 and Eddie said 42 and Bruce at 42. All right. Okay, so you're probably saying, would you give us a recap? Let's find out who's leading and who's doing what. Mark has three correct answers at least. He came the closest on three. [00:55:22] Speaker E: He has told me to book his cheating. [00:55:24] Speaker C: As a matter of fact, Norm, I came exact on three. [00:55:27] Speaker B: You did, actually. You did. Yes. Yes, because these last two we've given a couple of ages and you guessed one. So you have three correct ones. Bruce has two and so does Eddie. And one apiece from Ed. Ed Donahue, Sid Whitaker and Amy. All right, so it's anybody's game at all here. Anybody can just shoot Ed. And that's what makes it just so darn exciting. [00:55:56] Speaker G: We forgot to say how much Helen had. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Yes, Helen, of course, is Silch nothing. She's shaming us all, particularly her own family. [00:56:06] Speaker E: Thanks a lot. [00:56:07] Speaker B: I like you too, Helen. [00:56:09] Speaker G: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to bring that up. But usually every week I'm the one who has none and they tend to go off on me. So I just want someone else to get it for. [00:56:19] Speaker E: Okay? [00:56:20] Speaker G: No hard feelings. [00:56:21] Speaker B: No, there are hard feelings, Helen. Don't believe what he says. He hates your guts. Jim Plunkett. You remember Jim Plunkett? He used to play for the Patriots at quarterback. Yeah. [00:56:31] Speaker C: Number one quarterback in the Canadian Football League. [00:56:35] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:56:36] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [00:56:37] Speaker B: He is. Heisman Trophy winner from Stanford University. Born in San Jose, California. Jim Plunkett, he was is he Hispanic, partly part Spanish or part Mexican? Yes. [00:56:57] Speaker C: Both his parents are blind. [00:56:59] Speaker B: I didn't know that. [00:57:00] Speaker C: Yeah. And his best success was with the Oakland Raiders during the 80s. He was the comeback player of the decade. He's the last AFC quarterback to win a Super Bowl. [00:57:12] Speaker B: Really? [00:57:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:13] Speaker B: That's very good. Tell me, how old do you think he is? Ed? [00:57:16] Speaker C: How old do I think he is? He broke out with the Patriots around 69. He'd be 21. 45. [00:57:23] Speaker B: 45. Do that thing with the tongue again. [00:57:27] Speaker C: 45. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Very good. Excellent. Helen, what about what do you think? [00:57:32] Speaker E: 43. [00:57:34] Speaker B: Okay, 43. And Amy, what do you say? [00:57:37] Speaker E: 44. [00:57:38] Speaker B: Amy says 44. Ed? Donahue, what do you think? [00:57:42] Speaker C: 48. [00:57:43] Speaker B: 48. Okay. Mark? [00:57:47] Speaker C: 40. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Bruce? [00:57:50] Speaker G: Actually, I have to say, I think Ed Donnie Who has an unfair advantage aren't you always hanging out on those Patriots games on every Sunday there at BZ? [00:58:00] Speaker C: Me? [00:58:01] Speaker G: Yes, you. Look at oh, me. [00:58:05] Speaker C: Jim Plunkett doesn't play for the Patriots. [00:58:07] Speaker G: Well, this is true, but you know, all the inside sports stuff. I don't think this is fair. [00:58:12] Speaker B: Yeah, because Gil Santos mentions his name all the time when he's doing the game. He says, that reminds me. Jim Plunkett of Jim Plunkett. Yeah. He'll say that? [00:58:21] Speaker C: Gino, you look like Jim Plunkett in this light. [00:58:24] Speaker B: Yeah, sometimes he says that. Sometimes he said, you know, right now as I sat down at the microphone, I felt like I was sitting down, like Jim Plunkett would sit. I don't know, somehow he manages to bring his name up a lot. [00:58:36] Speaker G: Well, I know see, the people out there don't know, but they're each given a media book and Ed just has it with them at all times. [00:58:42] Speaker B: That's when they have the ages with them. [00:58:44] Speaker G: Tonight, knowing it was Jim Plunkett's birthday so he could check. [00:58:48] Speaker C: Norm. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Yes. [00:58:49] Speaker C: I apologize. You said Jim Plunkett. I was thinking of the young kid, Doug Fluty. [00:58:54] Speaker B: I thought so, too, with the Canadian. [00:58:57] Speaker C: Lady that blew me. Can I change my guess now? [00:59:02] Speaker B: Let me see. Who are we talking with? This is Mark. What did you want to sure, change your guess. What the heck? [00:59:07] Speaker C: I'd say he's 49. [00:59:08] Speaker B: 49? [00:59:09] Speaker C: Yes. [00:59:11] Speaker B: You must take diction lessons from Sid Whitaker. 49. [00:59:14] Speaker C: I listened to the Beatles White Album. Number nine. Number nine. [00:59:21] Speaker B: This whole program is really going down the toilet. I thought we were in bad trouble yesterday when all the trouble we had was with the transmitter and the computer. His favorite receiver was an RCA Victor. Number six. Nine. Three X with a metal antenna out the window. Boy. No. Who was his favorite receiver? [00:59:43] Speaker C: Randy Vataha. [00:59:45] Speaker B: We're back to Doug floaty again. [00:59:47] Speaker C: We're talking about plunkett's favorite receiver was Randy Vataha. [00:59:53] Speaker B: Really? [00:59:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Patriots drafted him because Plunkett said, I want him. That's who we threw the ball to in college. [00:59:59] Speaker B: I didn't know that either. [01:00:01] Speaker E: Yeah. [01:00:01] Speaker B: Wow. Gee, that bowl. Wow. 17th. Ed looked at it, was picked 17th. [01:00:07] Speaker C: In the 17th round. [01:00:08] Speaker B: He went, yeah, okay. Shut up, shut up, shut up. Ed. [01:00:12] Speaker G: I'm going to say 46. [01:00:14] Speaker B: 46. Okay. What do you say, Sid? 47. 47. I was kind of hoping you say 49 because I like the way you say it. Okay, maybe next time. Norm. Jim Pluckett. And we only have the one age listed for him, which is 46. 46. And that's what Bruce said. [01:00:32] Speaker G: And I didn't even need a media book. Ed. [01:00:36] Speaker B: You trampled all over Ed on that one and you have three correct answers. You're tied now with Mark. This is getting to be an exciting game. How come? If this game is getting so exciting, how come it doesn't seem exciting? How come it just seems boring? [01:00:52] Speaker E: Why is planning outside? [01:00:54] Speaker B: Is that the reason? You know, sometimes it takes looking at the world through the eyes of a child in order to see things in proper perspective. That was nice. That was really nice. Calvin Trillin is his birthday today. You know, Calvin Trillin is a writer humorist. He showed up on a number of television programs as a guest. He's a funny man. He was the one who said there was only one fruitcake ever made since the beginning of time. And that makes the rounds because nobody ever eats fruitcake. [01:01:30] Speaker C: I love fruitcake. I love the green cherries best of all. [01:01:34] Speaker B: Eddie, nobody cares. Yeah, nobody really cares. Especially the green stuff. Nobody even likes those. Most people pick that off and throw it away. Eddie, so tell us old you think Kelvin Trillin is. Me? Yes, you. [01:01:50] Speaker C: 63. I never even heard of him. [01:01:53] Speaker B: You never heard of him, but you think a humorous who makes jokes about fruitcakes has to be 63? [01:02:00] Speaker C: When people started talking about red dye and all that other stuff in MSG that scare has been around for about 25 years. [01:02:08] Speaker B: What scare is that? [01:02:09] Speaker C: Oh, MSG is bad for you. The Chinese have used it for thousands of years. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah, go on. Gus Saunders program and his cooking show. Okay. Or Julia, whatever her last name is. [01:02:24] Speaker C: You made fun of the green cherries. [01:02:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Mark, how old do you think Calvin Trillin is? [01:02:30] Speaker C: Well, I was going to say 63, but because somebody else took it from me, I'm going to say 67. [01:02:37] Speaker B: Oh, boy. You said that with so much resentment. [01:02:39] Speaker C: I know the demons. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Well, you are really ticked off, aren't you, Mark? Just a tad, yeah. Okay. Bruce, what do you say? [01:02:48] Speaker G: I'll say 65. [01:02:50] Speaker B: 65. And Ed, what do you say? Ed Donahue? [01:02:54] Speaker C: I'll say the Spry 57. [01:02:57] Speaker B: Spry. 57 spry. Is that like your cooking vegetable oil cook? Is that tied in with no, it isn't. Probably. [01:03:05] Speaker C: Is that a soft drink? [01:03:06] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:03:06] Speaker C: Actually, that's a moving company in Wolverine. [01:03:09] Speaker B: Spry is yes. Spry moving company. [01:03:12] Speaker C: Yes, sir. [01:03:13] Speaker G: Is that Eddie again? [01:03:14] Speaker C: Yes, that's Eddie. [01:03:15] Speaker G: He has so much information. [01:03:20] Speaker B: That was Mark who said that. Yes. All right. Helen, how old do you think that Calvin Trillin do you know Calvin Trillin? No, I should know him. He's a very talented writer. Turnout. A number of his things have appeared in his collections in book form. Also. [01:03:40] Speaker E: I don't read it. Just look at the pictures. 59. [01:03:45] Speaker B: 59 also. Okay. And Sid? I'll go with 66. Norm? 66. And what do you say, Amy? [01:03:56] Speaker E: 66. [01:03:57] Speaker B: 66. You haven't thrown up yet, have you? That's very good. Very good. [01:04:03] Speaker E: If the fruitcake didn't make a door, nothing will. [01:04:06] Speaker B: I think that's probably so. Okay, so now we come to the magic moment when I tell you the actual age of Calvin Triller. This is the thrilling moment. He's 58 years old today, and I think Helen hey, one for me. Helen and Ed Donahue. Both, as matter of fact, because Helen said 59 59 and Ed Donahue said 57. [01:04:29] Speaker E: Ed, did you have to split that one point with me? [01:04:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I guess we'll have to. [01:04:36] Speaker E: That's the luck of the Irish. [01:04:38] Speaker B: Okay. There's nobody else really born on that date. This date, December 5, we can talk about, but December 6 thank you very much. One moment, please. I'll get the operator for you in one moment. December 6, Monday is the birthday of Wilt Shriner. And you know Will Shriner. He spells his name I know you don't know he spells his name with one L. He's the son of a man I always thought was a very funny man. Herb Schreiner, who's not particularly well known now, but I didn't know that Will Shriner also had a twin brother named shriner General Hospital. Really? Yeah, he's on hospital. Oh, it says that Ken Shriner and comedian talk show host Will Shriner, twins born in Toledo, Ohio. Their dad was TV entertainer. Comedian Herb Schreiner doesn't say that, but that's interesting. Okay. Does he look like have you ever seen Will Shriner? [01:05:39] Speaker G: Yes, I have. Now that you mentioned it, they kind of do look alike. [01:05:44] Speaker B: I never really thought of that before. Okay, well, let's start with you then on that. Bruce. How old do you think they are? [01:05:57] Speaker G: I'll have to say 38. [01:06:01] Speaker B: 38. Because I know you've got all the videotapes of General Hospital. [01:06:04] Speaker D: Yes. [01:06:04] Speaker B: Big fan. Yeah. How about you, Amy? How old do you think Will and Ken Shriner are? [01:06:12] Speaker E: I've seen General Hospital, and I've never seen them before. [01:06:15] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. You're operating at regret disadvantage. [01:06:20] Speaker G: Ken Shriner, I believe he plays Scotty, if I'm not mistaken. That's all I know. [01:06:29] Speaker E: Okay. [01:06:29] Speaker G: Not that I've ever seen it. Not that I have nothing to do during the days. [01:06:37] Speaker B: That'S my wake up show. [01:06:38] Speaker G: I don't want you to think I. [01:06:39] Speaker B: Have no wife here. Is that you breathing, Helen? [01:06:45] Speaker E: No. [01:06:47] Speaker C: Why me? [01:06:49] Speaker B: I don't know. Because when you start to talk, the breathing ends. I've noticed that. [01:06:53] Speaker E: Oh, you did? [01:06:54] Speaker B: I happen to be an investigative reporter for Channel Four, so I know that. [01:06:59] Speaker E: Is that what you are? [01:07:02] Speaker B: Amy, how old do you think Will and Ken Shriner are? [01:07:05] Speaker E: 37. [01:07:06] Speaker B: 37, okay. And Helen, what do you think? [01:07:09] Speaker E: 38. [01:07:11] Speaker B: All we have to do to stop the breathing is keep Helen talking. I don't know which is worse, though. No, just keep breathing. Yes, I am unashamedly. [01:07:22] Speaker E: Couldn't have been done by a nice person. [01:07:24] Speaker B: Thank you. Well, that's a nice way to put it. Eddie, what do you think? Eddie from Austin? [01:07:30] Speaker C: Which one was born first so I can give an age and a minute. [01:07:33] Speaker B: That's very clever, Eddie. If you just give an age, we'd appreciate that. You, like, 38. Yeah. Okay. [01:07:40] Speaker C: I've never watched General Hospital. [01:07:43] Speaker E: It's a good show. [01:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well, Will Shriner is on a whole lot of other things, including Good Morning America. No, not Good Morning America. He's on that one on Channel Five at 09:00. [01:07:54] Speaker E: That's the one with he's older than that then. [01:08:00] Speaker B: Do you know the program I'm talking about? What's the name of that? [01:08:03] Speaker E: I know what you're talking about. Doesn't he cross out with a woman? [01:08:07] Speaker B: Well, there's a man and woman on the show. Will Shriner is sort of roams around and does other things. Yeah, he's not one of the co hosts, but he is on the show quite often. The co hosts are who? The woman is a very appealing lady, and I can't think of her name. [01:08:27] Speaker C: Sarah Purcell. [01:08:28] Speaker B: Sarah Purcell. [01:08:29] Speaker G: Gary Collins. [01:08:30] Speaker B: You don't have a life, do you? [01:08:32] Speaker G: Not that I know these things, but if I had to venture a guess, I would say it was Sarah Purcell and Gary Collins. [01:08:38] Speaker B: No, that's right. Gary Collins and the Sarah Purcell. That's right. Okay. And Will Shriner does sort of the freelance kind of stuff on the show. He does the funny stuff, except he's not nearly as funny as his father was, so there. Okay. Is that okay with you, Amy? Did you want to change your guess? Okay. Sid, what do you think? Go with 41. Norm? 41. Okay. And not 49. 41. 40. That's not what never ride. Okay. Ed Donahue and his orchestra. What do you think? You're kind of quiet today, Ed. I'm just busy thinking, Normans, because I kind of counted on you to be hilariously funny and to keep the pace of this thing going, because frankly, I tell you, I think it's drudgery. I think it's become very boring. [01:09:32] Speaker E: It's the weather. [01:09:34] Speaker B: Oh, it's the weather. Yeah. It seems to me like we've been doing this thing that's playing this game here since about three weeks ago, last Friday. [01:09:40] Speaker C: It's the Will Shriner effect. [01:09:43] Speaker B: It's the Will Shriner effect. [01:09:45] Speaker C: I think that's what it is. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Okay. [01:09:47] Speaker C: The equivalent of the Bermuda Triangle, I believe. 39. [01:09:54] Speaker B: 39. Okay. And let's see. 39. Mark, what do you think? [01:10:01] Speaker C: 42. [01:10:02] Speaker B: 42. Okay. Again, we have that magic moment when we can bring out their ages. Actually, they are 40 today. 40 years old today. And so I would say Sid said 41 and Ed said 39. Son of a gun. [01:10:21] Speaker C: What do you know? [01:10:23] Speaker B: Ed is now tied. Also, he's got three tied with Bruce. [01:10:28] Speaker G: He's up one. Isn't doesn't he have four? [01:10:31] Speaker B: No, three. [01:10:32] Speaker G: All right. [01:10:35] Speaker B: And let's see. And Mark has three. So we have a three way tie as we go to Steve Wright. Very funny comic from around here, comedian Steve Wright. He's the one who said, so I went into a store to buy some batteries, but they were not included, so I had to buy them again. [01:11:00] Speaker E: How old is he? [01:11:02] Speaker B: That's the question. See, I can't tell you, Amy, because that's the question. How old Steve is. Steve, right. He has an imagination very much like Fred Allen. And now all we're going to say is, Who's Fred Allen? So I won't even mention oh, he. [01:11:15] Speaker C: Has that bit, was it? I have a friend in radio. Every time I'm driving with him, we go under a bridge. I don't understand a thing. [01:11:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't hear him. We took a walk. We went under a bridge and I couldn't hear him. Yes. [01:11:32] Speaker C: Do you know Fred Allen dropped dead right outside his doctor's door after a physical? He'd just been pronounced in excellent help, paid his bill, stepped out the door and dropped dead right in the hallway? [01:11:42] Speaker B: No, none of us knew that. [01:11:44] Speaker C: Amazing, but true. [01:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah. We kind of hoped that you wouldn't bring it up, Ed, and bring everything to that kind of reason. [01:11:51] Speaker C: I don't go to doctors. [01:11:52] Speaker B: The reason you don't go to doctors. I see it. You tell me. [01:11:57] Speaker C: Second prediction rate. [01:11:59] Speaker B: What's that? [01:12:00] Speaker C: Well, that's what they said to him. Gee, you live to be 100. He paid his bill. He stepped outside the door and he dropped dead. He made he paid his bill. [01:12:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right, too. That's right. He would have had to pay it all. Eddie, what do you think? How old is Steve Wright? [01:12:16] Speaker C: 35. [01:12:19] Speaker B: Okay, Helen, what do you say? Have you ever heard of Steve Wright? [01:12:23] Speaker E: No, I'm only 39. [01:12:30] Speaker B: What do you expect? I don't know what that has to do with anything. [01:12:34] Speaker E: By the way, you said that nobody ever admitted their age on talk shows. [01:12:38] Speaker B: That's correct. [01:12:39] Speaker E: Yeah, well, Bob Raleigh has been 39 for 20 years. [01:12:43] Speaker B: So what does that prove? [01:12:44] Speaker E: Does that he admitted his age. [01:12:46] Speaker B: I see. Okay. How old is Steve Wright? [01:12:50] Speaker C: I don't know. [01:12:51] Speaker E: 50? [01:12:53] Speaker B: I don't know 50, either. Okay, we'll put 50. Amy, what do you say? No, we're not going to skip you. Just name a number. No, you sound like if you guess the wrong one, we're going to whip you. [01:13:07] Speaker E: No, let's see. [01:13:14] Speaker B: If we don't skip her, she's going to throw up. I can just tell. [01:13:18] Speaker E: Just a few minutes ago, 43. [01:13:20] Speaker B: 43. Do you know Steve Wright? Have you ever heard of Amy? [01:13:25] Speaker E: No. [01:13:26] Speaker B: You've never heard of Steve Wright? [01:13:28] Speaker E: No. [01:13:28] Speaker B: Okay. Mark, what do you think? [01:13:32] Speaker C: 39. [01:13:34] Speaker B: 39. All right, so you know, 39 is what you say. I'll write down. [01:13:46] Speaker C: And I got to my apartment building. I put the key in it and started up. So I decided to take it for a drive. I got pulled over for speeding. The officer says, Where do you live? And I said, right here. [01:14:00] Speaker B: Sid, what do you think? How old is Steve Wright? Steve Wright? 38. Okay. And what do you say, Bruce? [01:14:11] Speaker G: He went to Emerson College. [01:14:13] Speaker B: I didn't know that. Did you go to Emerson College also? No. [01:14:18] Speaker G: I wanted to, though. [01:14:19] Speaker E: Did he go to college? [01:14:20] Speaker B: That's good enough, too, because I feel a kinship yeah, I feel a kinship toward Cornell University for the same reason I always wanted to go there. I've got the Emerson College penance I mean, the Cornell College University penance hanging in my room. Oh, yeah. [01:14:38] Speaker G: I hang out there and everything and just don't go there. I pretend like I do. [01:14:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I do the same thing with. [01:14:45] Speaker C: Cornell and meet me at the New England tractor trailer. [01:14:50] Speaker B: Actually, I thought you were from McNeil's Air Conditioning and Refrigeration School. [01:14:56] Speaker C: Remember the matchbooks that used to say, learn how to cut meat at home? [01:15:01] Speaker B: Eddie, where does he get he's what is known as Mr. Irrelevant? No matter what we're talking about, eddie can bring up something that has nothing whatever to do with any of it. [01:15:14] Speaker C: I think his real name is Cliff Claven. I'm not sure. [01:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:20] Speaker C: Normie lonely out here with the. [01:15:23] Speaker G: Front of, I'll say 34. [01:15:25] Speaker B: 34, okay. And Ed Donahue, who brings a civilized note to this otherwise inane discussion, how old do you think steve writers. [01:15:39] Speaker C: Thank you. 41. [01:15:41] Speaker B: 41. Okay, here's the thing. See, if we break that tie watch. [01:15:46] Speaker E: It be something like 37. [01:15:50] Speaker B: You're going to change your guess to 37? [01:15:53] Speaker E: I stick with my 43. [01:15:56] Speaker B: Actually, if you'd said 37, you would have been a lot closer because he's 38, which is what Sid said Sunday. [01:16:02] Speaker E: I said 37. [01:16:04] Speaker B: No, you didn't. You said 43 originally. [01:16:07] Speaker E: See, I told you it's going to be something like that. [01:16:09] Speaker B: Oh, you mustn't lie, Amy, because you're a hope for the future. You're a young generator. You're the generation yet to come. [01:16:16] Speaker E: I said 37, but my guess was 43. [01:16:19] Speaker B: Okay, well, anyway, Sid hit it right, you still would have been wrong because Sid got it right on the button, which means that we now have a four way tie. So let's get one more here, see if we can break this tie, even if we have to cancel a 04:00 network. News dave Brubeck, the jazz pianist. His biggest hit was take five. He did that in 1961, which is about the year he made the COVID of Time magazine. Born in Concord, California, which is the Concord concord, like in Concord, Massachusetts, which is the name of a record label that comes out of there. Now, Concord produces some pretty good jazz stuff. Okay. We'll start with Ed Donahue. Dave Brubeck, 70. Okay. And Bruce, I know you're a fan of his, you've got all of his. And Jim Messina's records and little Richards. [01:17:18] Speaker G: And the duet they did together. Also Jim Messino. [01:17:23] Speaker B: That's right. Jim has seen a little Richard and Dave Brubrick playing the piano. [01:17:27] Speaker G: I'm the only one who has that album. He's 72. [01:17:31] Speaker B: 72. Okay. Sid? 68. And what do you think, Mark? [01:17:38] Speaker C: Well, the album was Adventures in Time and I believe he's 70. [01:17:44] Speaker B: Okay. It was adventures in time. That's right. Wow. Very good. Yeah. Are you a jazz fan? [01:17:49] Speaker C: No, but my dad brought me up while I was listening to my rock and roll. He made sure my education got fulfilled with the good stuff. [01:17:59] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:00] Speaker C: And Brubeck is really good. [01:18:02] Speaker B: Yes, he is. Amy, what do you think? [01:18:05] Speaker E: 70. [01:18:06] Speaker B: 70. Okay. Helen? [01:18:09] Speaker E: 71. [01:18:10] Speaker B: Have you ever heard of Dave Brubeck? [01:18:11] Speaker E: No. [01:18:12] Speaker B: Okay. We must sit down and chat about the world in general one day. Ellen? Eddie, what do you think? [01:18:20] Speaker C: I say 70. [01:18:22] Speaker B: Okay, a lot of you have said 70. He's actually 73, which means that Bruce has broken the tie by guessing 72. He was the closest. And Bruce Conley now has four correct answers and is the winner of the Swell game. [01:18:36] Speaker E: And what did I get out of this? [01:18:38] Speaker C: It's been real. [01:18:39] Speaker B: Yes, it has. Eddie, I want to thank you. I got to get caught because we got news coming up very soon. But thank you for playing the game with us, Eddie. [01:18:45] Speaker C: I appreciate it. [01:18:46] Speaker B: Anything irrelevant you want to say before you go? [01:18:49] Speaker C: Helen Truman finished the porch on the White house. [01:18:53] Speaker B: I think that's a good note to hang up on Eddie With and Helen. And thank you for your guesses and your heavy breathing. [01:19:02] Speaker E: Thank you. [01:19:05] Speaker B: Amy. You got through this whole thing without throwing up, and I think that in itself is a triumph. [01:19:11] Speaker E: Thank you. [01:19:12] Speaker B: Thank you for playing. And let's see who else we got here. And thank you very much, Sid. Oh, Sid is already back at his station. [01:19:21] Speaker G: Forget Mark. [01:19:23] Speaker B: Oh, Mark. That's right. Oh, yeah. Mark. Thank you very much for playing the game with us. You did very well. [01:19:29] Speaker C: I appreciate that, sir. Thank you for the okay. [01:19:33] Speaker B: Oh, that was just so sequeous, wasn't it wasn't. Ed Donahue, it's been fun talking with you. [01:19:40] Speaker C: Norm, a pleasure as always. [01:19:43] Speaker B: It was a pleasure for all of us doing. I thank you very much. This is Ed Donahue from the WBZ staff. And of course, this is Bruce Conley, also from the WBZ staff. Another wonderful triumph. Bruce. You're okay? [01:19:55] Speaker G: One of one that I've ever had. [01:19:58] Speaker B: Thanks. Okay, take care. Wouldn't it be great to get back to an old fashioned Christmas 61328 for. [01:20:06] Speaker E: Free catalog or tour we can engrave to personalize your gift. We gift wrap for free, and we can ship it anywhere in the world. Of course, we accept all major credit cards, and it will arrive by Christmas. [01:20:16] Speaker B: So call 617-536-1328. [01:20:19] Speaker E: Add some sparkle to that special someone with a gift from the Irish Crystal Company, 129 Newbury Street, Boston. [01:20:26] Speaker B: Do stop into the Irish Crystal Company on Newbury Street, but if you can't, call 617-536-1328. Okay, let's talk with Joe in. Waltham, hi. Good morning, Joe. Thanks for hanging in. [01:20:38] Speaker C: Hi, Norm. How are you doing this morning? [01:20:40] Speaker B: Good, thanks. [01:20:40] Speaker C: Hey, guess what happened. [01:20:42] Speaker B: What's that? [01:20:43] Speaker C: My girlfriend invited me over to her place to watch the football game tomorrow. Today. [01:20:48] Speaker B: Oh, son of a gun. This is the lady who did not like you to watch football, right? What do you think brought this about? [01:20:55] Speaker C: Well, I owe it all to you. You're the one who told me to stand up to her and tell her that I was going to watch football whether she liked it or not. [01:21:06] Speaker B: Son of a gun. Was I that strong about it? And she didn't rebel against it? [01:21:12] Speaker C: Well, yeah, she did at first. She threw me out. [01:21:16] Speaker B: Oh, she threw you out at first, yeah. [01:21:19] Speaker C: So I stayed away for a couple of days, and then she called me up and told me to come over and watch the football game today. [01:21:27] Speaker B: Oh, she missed you. And she figured, what the heck? If it's going to be football or not him at all. What the heck? [01:21:35] Speaker C: I don't know. I kind of think she has a hidden agenda because I found a couple of sports pages at her apartment. [01:21:44] Speaker F: I think she's been reading about the. [01:21:45] Speaker C: Patriots, and she gets some kind of a sick, twisted pleasure out of watching me watch them lose. [01:21:53] Speaker B: Oh, I see. She figures that's torture for you, and it'll serve you right for watching the games. [01:21:58] Speaker C: Yeah, but she had me worried for a while there. I thought she lost a sense of humor. [01:22:05] Speaker B: Obviously she has that. And you're both getting along okay now? [01:22:08] Speaker C: Yeah, well, it's getting a little better now, I guess. But for a while there, it was kind of rough. Ever since I broke her leg, she just didn't laugh much, you know? [01:22:20] Speaker B: I'm going to ask about that. How did you break her leg? [01:22:24] Speaker C: Oh, I was trying to miss the dog, and when I hit the brakes to miss the dog, she kind of fell. [01:22:34] Speaker B: She was in the car next to you? [01:22:36] Speaker C: Yeah. No, she was in the same car. [01:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I mean. You were driving and she was next to you on the passenger side, and you swerved the car, something, and she fell off the seat. [01:22:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:22:50] Speaker B: And her leg is still broken? [01:22:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:22:55] Speaker B: It sounds like something I'd like to buy the movie rights to. That whole story. [01:23:00] Speaker C: I don't know. I thought it would be okay, because come close to me. I don't want everybody to hear this. [01:23:10] Speaker B: Okay. [01:23:12] Speaker C: She didn't use that leg anyhow. [01:23:17] Speaker B: She didn't use the leg ever? [01:23:19] Speaker C: No. Well, not for a long time. She was already a paraplegic. [01:23:27] Speaker B: She's a paraplegic? [01:23:29] Speaker C: Yes. Which I often wondered about, because if a person's only got one bad leg, are they just a single plegic? [01:23:39] Speaker B: You're doing? Stick Joe? Now I can't believe anything you're talking about. [01:23:42] Speaker C: No, this is true. She's a wonderful girl. [01:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:45] Speaker C: And about 21 years ago, she was in a plane crash, a small plane. [01:23:50] Speaker B: Oh, my. [01:23:50] Speaker C: And she's been in a wheelchair since. And we took a trip, and we were driving through Nova Scotia, the Cabot Trail. Which you were talking to some people one night about. [01:24:02] Speaker B: Yes. [01:24:02] Speaker C: And this dog ran out of the woods right in front of the van I was driving, and she had just taken off a seatbelt to get herself a pillow know, just change the position of the seat. That's when the dog ran out, and I had to hit the brakes, and she fell forward and her leg got broken. [01:24:20] Speaker B: Oh, that's what a shame. But she understood it wasn't your fault. [01:24:24] Speaker C: Well, yeah, but it's pretty tough for her. [01:24:27] Speaker B: I know it. I would imagine so, but then she. [01:24:31] Speaker C: Just kind of lost a sense of humor for a while there. [01:24:33] Speaker B: Okay, she got it back now. [01:24:35] Speaker C: She's getting it back. [01:24:36] Speaker B: Okay, I got to get going, Joe, but I'm glad the story has a happier ending than it appeared till last time. [01:24:42] Speaker C: Okay. [01:24:43] Speaker B: Hey, take care of yourself. [01:24:44] Speaker C: All right, now. [01:24:45] Speaker B: Bye bye, Joe. [01:24:46] Speaker C: Bye. [01:24:46] Speaker B: Okay, we'll take a little break, see if we can take another call or so what is it, Shirley? Oh, love of my life. [01:24:52] Speaker E: It's that time of year again. [01:24:54] Speaker B: What time is that? [01:24:54] Speaker E: Oh, peach blossom gift buying season. [01:24:56] Speaker B: Yes, Shirley, I am aware of that. In fact, everyone and their mother is aware of that. In fact, everyone and their grandmother calm down. Calming. [01:25:02] Speaker E: I have a great idea, Frank. We'll go to the grand opening of the new Westboro Antique and Flea Market this Sunday. Says here that it'll be the best antiquing collectible flea market in New England with 150 dealers. [01:25:13] Speaker B: 150? [01:25:14] Speaker E: And they have new merchandise, too. [01:25:16] Speaker B: New merchandise? [01:25:17] Speaker E: Surely it'll be a great opportunity to save money. [01:25:19] Speaker B: Don't call me Shirley. Shirley. [01:25:20] Speaker E: What's that, Frank? [01:25:21] Speaker B: I said, did you say save money, Shirley? [01:25:22] Speaker E: Frankly, Frank, there's going to be something for everyone on our list. And it's all indoors. [01:25:27] Speaker B: All indoors. [01:25:27] Speaker E: All under one roof. [01:25:28] Speaker B: One roof. [01:25:29] Speaker E: They're going to have food, door prizes, a country western band and a lot of excitement. [01:25:33] Speaker B: Excitement. We need excitement, Shirley. Come to the grand opening of the New Westboro Antiquin Flea Market at routes nine and 135 this Sunday. Call 508-836-3880 508-836-3880. That's the grand opening this Sunday of the new Westboro Antique and Flea Market. James Reif of Riverdale, Illinois, is telling us about his itchy skin problem. I was flaky skin and redness. After scratching, he was irritated, and there was some redness to it, but it was just a constant itch. But James Reif got relief using triple action Gold Bond Medicated powder. And I started using Gold Bond and never had no problems since then. The initial reaction was it was kind of soothing. And then all of a sudden it was a cooling effect. And after that, it seemed like the itching disappeared. Gold Bond's Triple action is like three great powders in one. It has the absorbing action of powder, the medicating action of a proven itch fighter, and the drying action of zinc oxide. That's triple action gold. Bond. After using it a few times, I've been using it ever since. Gold Bond medicated powder. It stopped the itching. That's the main thing. Gold Bond has did wonders for me. Try triple action. Gold Bond Medicated powder. Use only as directed. Available at Osco Drug. Bessie Dupree of St. Petersburg, Florida. When's the last time you tried Ovaltine? [01:26:58] Speaker E: Every day. I have it every night. Oh, I love ovaltine. I've loved it always. I've got a big bottle of chocolate and a big bottle of malt. [01:27:07] Speaker B: Classic Ovaltine not only tastes good, it contains ten essential vitamins and minerals, nutrients your body needs and wants. [01:27:14] Speaker E: Ovaltine has a lot of nourishing stuff in it. You'll see all the vitamins that's in it, but it's got a delightful flavor to me. It's got a very distinct flavor. That's delicious. It's a nice drink. [01:27:27] Speaker B: Just two glasses of classic Ovaltine and milk provide almost 100% of the recommended daily allowance of B complex vitamins A, C and D, plus other important nutrients the body needs for strong bones, strong teeth, good eyesight and more. [01:27:41] Speaker E: So I eat good food and drink good things, and that's why I'm healthy. I think Ovaltine is a very special drink. I wouldn't take any other brand. That's the truth. [01:27:50] Speaker B: Classic Ovaltine. Tastes great, and it's great for you. Available in the nutrition section of Walgreens. Okay, we've got just a couple of minutes left. I want to talk to Jeff and Dorchester. Hi, Jeff. Thank you. I appreciate you staying with us. [01:28:05] Speaker C: Norm, I'm hanging on by my toenails here. [01:28:08] Speaker B: I know it. And we only got a couple of more minutes. I hate to say that to you. [01:28:11] Speaker C: All right, Norm. I just wanted to say that your show is great. You've heard that before. [01:28:16] Speaker B: Well, I appreciate that very much, Jeff. Thank you. [01:28:18] Speaker C: When it's late at night, I like to hear very soothing things, and your show does that for me. And I wanted to say hello to. [01:28:27] Speaker B: My fiance and what's her name? [01:28:30] Speaker C: Karen. [01:28:30] Speaker B: Karen, this is Jeff talking to you. He loves you. [01:28:33] Speaker C: Oh, Norm, she's the finest woman that God ever created. [01:28:38] Speaker B: Oh, what a nice thing to say. [01:28:40] Speaker C: We did our pre cana class today over in Charlestown, and it just reinsured my love for her. [01:28:47] Speaker B: Oh, how nice. [01:28:48] Speaker C: And I just want to say to all the couples out there, it's a beautiful thing. [01:28:53] Speaker B: It really is, isn't it? [01:28:54] Speaker E: Norm? [01:28:55] Speaker B: How long have you known her? [01:28:56] Speaker C: Oh, about five years. [01:28:58] Speaker B: Okay, that's nice. Yes. To have somebody that you like that much and somebody that you'll be spending a lot of hours with. I think it's a very beautiful experience. [01:29:09] Speaker C: We're embarking on the treasure of a lifetime. [01:29:13] Speaker B: When will you be doing that? [01:29:15] Speaker C: May 21 at the Ritz Carlton. [01:29:17] Speaker B: Oh, you're going to get married May 21 at the Ritz Carlton? [01:29:20] Speaker C: Yes. [01:29:20] Speaker B: Hey, that's great. That's great. [01:29:23] Speaker C: Public god pitches. Yeah, and I knew she was listening. She's out in the kitchen, and she's a woman that goes to bed at 09:00 shop because we're an older couple. [01:29:37] Speaker B: But she stayed up a little later. [01:29:39] Speaker C: Well, I just woke her up and said, I'm going to call mom. [01:29:41] Speaker B: Okay. Hey, Karen, you're very lucky. You both are very lucky. I have you both. And I hate to go now because I would like to ask you many more questions, but I have to be off the air in about a half a minute. [01:29:52] Speaker C: Norm, it was a pleasure talking with you. [01:29:53] Speaker B: Pleasure talking to you, too, Jeff. [01:29:55] Speaker C: Maybe another time. [01:29:57] Speaker B: Oh, by all means. I hope it will be. Yeah, there'll be lots of other times, and I hope so. [01:30:01] Speaker C: All right. [01:30:02] Speaker B: Bye bye, Jeff. And bye bye to you, too. [01:30:05] Speaker A: Truer words have never been spoken, as we will say goodbye until next week, or as the kids like to say, blowing in the wind. What? Closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it. Four live pipe organ broadcasts ken Wilson hammond castle community auditions front range bluegrass band curtains and curtain rods heritage radio andy Williams roger Whitaker lawrence Welk schlock stuff bad Turkey clyde Ma and BJ. Oh, and also Norm's three swellcats the Dumb Birthday Game Board and electronic versions available in fine stores everywhere. CPA. Richard Peneman, number nine. Boring, yet exciting at the same time. Gus Saunders spry moving company in wooburn. Amazing and true stories that bring a show to a screeching halt. Emerson College, Cornell, the New England Tractor Trailer School McNeil's AC and Refrigeration School the Irish Crystal Company westboro Antique and Flea Market mr. Irrelevant. Pre cana in chowstown. 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