Norm Nathan's Vault of Silliness - Ep 177

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back, everyone. Please take your seats here in the teen canteen. I had planned on a different date and year to use for today's episode, but the second half of last week's episode 176 was very entertaining, with a little bonus content, too. So we head back to February 12, 1996, for a post dumb birthday game. Norm Nathan Show 04:00 a.m. To 05:00 a.m. Hour why don't we call this one the carryover due to the continuing discussions of previous subjects? And it all begins with an in progress call about Franco Zephyrli, who was one of the birthdays on the previous episode. We jump to another in progress call about who the heck knows. Then we have Roy on the Freedom trail, Frank in Dorchester with some Arsenio hall info, Julie in Michigan, easing Norm's guilt. Kevin from Winthrop, he's a Civil War reenactor. We have drew in Norwood and Phil from Dorchester, who works for the park service at the Charlestown Navy Yard with the USS Constitution. Norm talks about the world chess championship, Gary Kasparov versus the IBM computer deep blue. Norm is distressed that the computer won a match. He'd be terrified. Today we also get to enjoy a bunch of commercials. A WBZ News four promo Brooks Pharmacy there was a WBZ winter getaway contest, which was voiced by Diane Stern and Bob McMahon. Auto Sound, which was voiced by Don Huff, coracedon coffin cold tablets, Quaker oatmeal, Dunkin donuts, and Uniglobe travel. Now the bonus content. That's right, an extra treat of approximately five minutes of the WBZ morning News. Voices of Gary LaPierre, Carol Lanigan and Joe Stapleton. The bonus continues as we close with the Norm show already in progress. I'm unsure of the date, and his guest was Jade Barrymore. Yep, drew Barrymore's mom, talking about a movie project she had going on at the time and her new book, Secrets of World class lovers, erotic tips, and central stories for a lifetime of sexual fulfillment. The few minutes that are included here is very entertaining. So stick around. Like subscribe, share, and rate the show where and when you're able support the show by joining Patreon. Episode 177 the carryover, lugs its way to your ears in three, two, and one. [00:02:48] Speaker B: He's my kind of man. I listen to Norm Nathan every time I can on WBZ in Boston. The Norm Nathan show. [00:03:09] Speaker C: Actually, the Bob Raleigh show Bob has taken, just took this morning off. He'll be back again tonight at midnight, and so I'm just sitting in for him during these hours seven. A Romeo and Juliet. Burton and Taylor. Taming of the shrew, the Mel Gibson hamlet. See a pattern? Think. I also directed the film version of what I take to be your favorite opera. Which one is that? Which? Your favorite opera? My favorite opera. The one you're always referring to. Let's see. The one. Cavalier rusticana. That's it. Is that it? Right. Yes. Oh, my goodness. I'm hanging my head in shame. I really should have known. Know? When I was younger, we used to go to all the art. The next day, a couple fellas, and this was Batavia downs in Batavia, New York. Next day, this guy who was supposed to be connected, a tough guy, said, al, I want to know every horse, every single bet. You bet, and I'm going to bet every single one. So Al came up with his agenda on what he was betting, and. Okay, then we'll say Carl went to get a sandwich, and Al made one change. They come back, Al's horses win. And Carl looked at him like, what happened? You understand the story? I think my mind wandered there for a second and I missed that. No, it was pretty simple. The guy who won $900 earlier had made one change, and he won that night, say, even if it was just $2. And the guy, carl, went to get a sandwich, and Al made a change, and Carl missed winning because he went to get a sandwich and Al made a change. I get you. Anyway, that's an amusing story. Hey, what do you think, kids? Is that an amusing story or what? I've heard amusing stories for a lot of years now, from Tieta del Fuego to Mogamba. It's kind of funny. You're absolutely right. His family, as part of it, had come from. You know, there's a statue of Abraham Lincoln in Massachusetts. Yeah. Yes. Because his family, part of his family had been in Massachusetts, I guess, before they went to Kentucky. [00:05:47] Speaker B: And then there's a lot of history like that. You take the whole eastern seaboard and all of these people were born in a port city or something, and then they got sick of it. There was too many people. So they packed up the covered wagon and moved in beyond the. [00:06:04] Speaker C: Yes, yes. My family did the same thing, too. My great great grandfather was born in Boston, but they hitched up the Conestoga wagon and headed west and settled in Lawrence. [00:06:17] Speaker B: They didn't go too far. [00:06:19] Speaker C: He's decided how to heck with it. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Yeah, well, heck with the port of Boston. The beautiful Merrimack river was the thing for. [00:06:27] Speaker C: Right? That's right. He said, I am here. This is a river. I will call it the merrimack, as I recall. And he said, and I will call this town. And I remember he spent a lot of time clearing out the brush and everything because it was a wild, savage country. And he finally cleared it out. He said, this will be our home and we will call it Methuan. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Well, you know what, Norm? Probably the Merrimack river is cleaner than the Mississippi. [00:06:56] Speaker C: Well, I don't know about comparisons. At one time, the Merrimack river was so dirty you could use it for landfill. But they've been cleaning it up through the years, and apparently the salmon are running there now, and you can use it for recreational purposes and stuff. It's much cleaner than it used to be. I don't know about in relation to Mississippi river or some of the others, but it's much better than it used to be. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Well, that's something I know. I didn't realize the salmon were running back up the are. [00:07:23] Speaker C: Yes, they are. I guess they have been for a few years now. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Oh, that's fantastic. Well, then all this clean water act is really working out. [00:07:30] Speaker C: Yes, it is. We are cleaning up the rivers. No question about that. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Have a happy Valentine's Day, freedoms. [00:07:38] Speaker C: That's a good question. When was last time you walked the freedom? I have walked it, but it's a lot of years. No, I would just be throwing out a wild number. I really don't know. I can think of some of the things that are on the Freedom trail, but I don't know how many stops now. How many are there? I'll leave it out for one of your other calls. Maybe they came up. I think it was twelve. The only reason I mentioned that, because my in laws came up and I did the Freedom trail for the first time since the fourth grade. I went to the RG Morris grammar school, and all the grammar schools in Boston used to require you to go on the Freedom trail. And it's been about 35 years since I've done it. I'll tell you, it really was a wonderful time. Bunker Hill over there is beautiful. The constitution also. Yeah, that's obviously part of it. And the Paul Revere house, when you get the state house and all that whole area, and also some of the back streets near the north end, one of which was the paymaster's house during the revolutionary War. You kind of wet my appetite. As soon as the weather gets just a little bit warmer, I'm going to try that trip again. Speaking of appetite, we finished up in the north end at Regina's pizzeria there. The restaurants back there are great. The only thing is looking in some of the windows of the butcher shops, and you see the rabbits, the skin rabbits hanging up there. It makes them feel kind of bad. Hey, one last thing. There, right by the old state house, whatever, is Robert Goulshaw. You ever see the movie glory? Yeah. You're talking right on. What is that? The street in front of the state house, right. There's the big plaque there. Yeah. I gone by 100 times, never even noticed it, to be honest with you. Yeah. Beautiful plaque. Yes, it is a beautiful plaque, and it's an incident in the history of the country. A lot of people don't know about the black brigade that came out of the area. Pleasure talking to you. Pleasure talking to you. Thanks for calling, Roy. Yeah, you, too. Bye bye. That's what I'll have to do. There are a lot of historical spots here that people come and visit. And when you live here, you figure out, try it next week or the week after. And a lot of times you don't. I was an adult before I ever even went to the Bunker Hill monument, and that was only because we had relatives or friends coming from out of the state. So we thought, let's show you some stuff. But one of the great thrills I had was on the USS Constitution on 4 July. Remember, when they take the ship out and turn it around so that it weathers equally on both sides? And that was really thrilling. Let's go to Frank in Dorchester. Hi, Frank. Good morning. Good morning, Norm. The reason I called is during the birthday game, you guys mentioned Cine O'Hall, and you had said that you didn't know what had happened to him about, I don't know, three years ago, whenever his show was canceled, the last show I saw, he had on that minister Farrakhan. And Farrakhan was coming out with some really terrible anti semitic remarks and running the white people right into the. Yeah. And instead of Arsenio hall having the brains to, you know, I don't necessarily agree with your opinion on that, or that's a little drastic. This clown was going right along with him. And I was really teed off watching that show. And I said to myself that night, if I was running that network, you'd be off. And lo and behold, two days later, they announced his cancellation. And I'm in agreement with that. And I'm not saying you shouldn't have the right to free speech, but what was being said on his show by Farrakhan was complete nonsense. And you figure, here's a guy that's making serious money. I don't know what his pay would be, but wouldn't you say it would be probably about $100,000? Oh, I would think it'd be for that. Probably more, right? I would think more than that. Yes. Yeah, here's a guy making that kind of money not having the sense to say, I'm not going to bite the hand that feeds me, so to speak. But no, he went right in with Farrakhan. And, oh, yeah, you're absolutely right. And that was the end of them. And I say good riddance. Yeah, that's true. I never did see that particular broadcast, but I'd heard about that. And not only a question of not fighting the hand that feeds you, but just having a little sense and decency, because Farrakhan comes out with such outrageously. I know. And it's nothing but hate talk. And you think not only for your audience that's listening, but you have sponsors and all kinds of disagree with Farrakhan's basic philosophy. Enough to make blood turn cold. That's right. We have enough problems in this country without coming on and trying to stir up more and more. I'm surprised that the media in general doesn't come out and talk against the way he talks. They just seem to let it flow over the dam, so to speak. I don't know that he gets all that much publicity anymore. I don't see his name coming up all that much. Maybe I'm missing it. I think he's all about money for himself. Between me and you, I don't think he's out to help anybody but himself. Well, that could very well be. Could very well be. I don't know. Every now and then, like when you were talking about him, his face flashed into the back of my mind, and I find it sickening. I think he's an awful man, and I totally agree with you. For our cine hall to sit there and agree with him or not offer any protest, I think is sinful. Yeah, I didn't agree with it at all. Well, that's why I gave you a call, and I'm glad we see eye to eye on that. We certainly do, Frank. And I'm glad you did call. All right, Norm. Take care. You, too. Bye bye, now. Okay, we have lots of open lines now, and the phone number is two 5410 30. The area code is the very lovely six one seven. Mike Epstein is our producer, and this is the way we go through the night. And as I mentioned, if the program sounds different, it's because Bob Raleigh is not here. I'm Norm Nathan sitting in just for today. He'll be back tonight at midnight. And of course, we'll be back again next weekend singing and dancing our way into your hearts. Meantime, a lot of open lines. Two, 5410, 36 one seven. The area code will be around till five when Gary Lapierre and the BZ news team updates us on everything. Have you been following the world chess champion versus computer matches? They've only had two so far. The champion, the world chess champion is Gary Kasparov and he's been playing against an IBM computer. And on the first round the computer is called deep blue, an IBM computer which has a calculating capacity of 200 million moves a second. And in the first match they'll be playing the usual, traditional six matches. And in the first match the computer won. I don't know why that distresses me. I just want so much for a human. I don't like for computers to take over the world and win anything. But the computer won. But the last match they had was yesterday. And this time Kasparov beat the computer. I thought maybe he'd never beat it. Maybe you couldn't beat a computer that has programmed like that. Kasparov won the match in 73 moves with a triumphant display of long range tactical thinking over deep blue. Over deep blue, the IBM computer. The architect and principal designer of deep blue. Seated defeat after 5 hours and 45 minutes. The architect, a man named Feng Seong su. And if I'm not pronouncing that incorrectly, then I'd be surprised. After the match, Kasparov said he had a key strategy for attacking the computer, which he referred to as the monster. He discovered that by moving for safe positions rather than direct attacks, he could lull the machine into opening its defense. I don't understand chess and I don't understand computers, so I don't understand the whole story. All I know is that the matches are all tied up at one apiece and I've got four more matches to play. And thank you just so very much. Another WBZ news four tradition reporters in the field. [00:16:24] Speaker B: As I told you, the coast guard. [00:16:26] Speaker C: The truth of the matter is some people, WBZ News four reporters get off their seats to cover your hometown from your hometown. That's tradition. Okay, let's talk with Julie in Michigan. Hello, Julie. [00:16:42] Speaker B: And good morning, Norm. [00:16:43] Speaker C: Good morning. I feel so guilty because I owe you about a thousand letters and I just have not done anything. And I'm aware of that, if that helps at all. And I'm really sorry. [00:16:54] Speaker B: The good part is I don't hold grudge. [00:16:56] Speaker C: I think that's nice. I appreciate that. [00:16:59] Speaker B: And I hear from you every week, and that's kind of nice, too. [00:17:02] Speaker C: Well, thank you very much. [00:17:04] Speaker B: I think it's kind of amazing that you mentioned the constitution this morning. It hasn't been 24 hours since I told someone this is the year that I remember when I was there, 94. I was told then, or everybody was that they were going to refloat the constitution in two years, that they remember it was in dry dock. [00:17:31] Speaker C: That's right. They had a lot of repairs to be made. [00:17:34] Speaker B: Now, that's what I want to know. Has anyone heard, is it scheduled for this year, and will they do it before the 4 July or on the 4 July or what? [00:17:46] Speaker C: Isn't that awful for me not to know that? Because I pass over the Tobin bridge and you can see the USS Constitution from there as you come into Boston from the north, and it seems to me that it is there now. I don't know whether it is in dry dock because I just see the sails. You can't see the whole ship. I think it's back in operation. I believe it is. [00:18:10] Speaker B: You mean they did it early? [00:18:12] Speaker C: Mike Epstein, our producer, is telling me stuff on the little earphones. He thinks it came out of dry dock also, so it's probably floating there and back in business again. We'll check to find out definitely, but I believe that's so. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Well, I will keep listening and hope to hear. It was a great birthday game, by. [00:18:32] Speaker C: The way, one of our usual silly things. But thank you. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Where else can you say my favorite show on the radio is something called the dumb birthday game? [00:18:43] Speaker C: If you're saying that to somebody who's never heard it or heard, they probably think that you really flipped somewhere along the line. [00:18:53] Speaker B: The surprising thing is how well one can play it when one is not on the air. [00:18:59] Speaker C: I know that as soon as you get on the air, suddenly the ages seem to be a great mystery, which they're not when you're thinking about it yourself. That's the same way with Jeopardy. I watch Jeopardy. And boy, I'm just as smart, and I have a feeling you stand up there, especially in front of the crowds, and you got to guess quickly. It's kind of different when you're actually taking part in stuff, even one of. [00:19:21] Speaker B: The one that Alex says, oh, we're sorry, you can't play final jeopardy. That's how I figured, because I never keep track of my score. [00:19:32] Speaker C: Well, shame on you. [00:19:33] Speaker B: I just play I just know all the answers. [00:19:36] Speaker C: No, I know it's a great program. I love watching it. And even Wheel of Fortune, which is not all that challenging. Those are two of Merv Griffin's shows. And I was watching C SpaN the other night and they had one of Ronald Reagan's birthday party celebrations. I didn't see too much of it, just a bit. It was Merv Griffin playing the piano with Johnny. Oh, God. Chances are. Who's that Johnny. Now, what is his name? Why can I not think of it? I used to play his records. I know his name very well. Is there something happening to my getting. Maybe I'm getting Johnny. You know who we're talking about? Johnny the guy, chances. [00:20:37] Speaker B: Johnny Mathis. [00:20:38] Speaker C: Johnny Mathis. Why did that name not come to me immediately? [00:20:43] Speaker B: Once in a while I come up with the right one. [00:20:46] Speaker C: Well, okay. Anyway, they did a number of songs. Johnny Mathis sounded really great. And Merv Griffin, I had never seen him play the piano before. And he's doing all these fancy things behind Mathis's singing, which really were very good. [00:21:01] Speaker B: I remember that he did that when he had his. Remember when he had that afternoon show? [00:21:07] Speaker C: Yes. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Wow. [00:21:08] Speaker C: About four. Yeah. And at one time, of course, he sang with Freddie Martin's orchestra and had a big hit, his only hit, I guess, of I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts. But then he got into the production business and wheel of fortune is his show and jeopardy is his mean, he's a multimillionaire. [00:21:27] Speaker B: He's laughing all the way to the bank. Yeah, I know that Regis and Kathy Lee is not one of your favorite shows. I happen to enjoy it every morning. And you may be aware that Kathy Lee had this friend, Nancy Lamont, who passed away just about Christmas time. [00:21:48] Speaker C: No, I didn't know that. [00:21:50] Speaker B: She's a singer, about 40 years old. 40, 41. And just really ready to peek. Well, actually, to appear on the scene. She was not well known in this area anyway. And I just got a copy of a CD that she had made and one of the songs on it was I'm glad there is you. Really nice piece. She did one whole CD of old hits. [00:22:23] Speaker C: Yeah. That is a magnificent song. [00:22:26] Speaker B: I have it by Johnny Mathis, too. [00:22:28] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. In this world of ordinary people, extraordinary people, I'm glad there is you. [00:22:33] Speaker B: Right on. [00:22:34] Speaker C: Anyway, the whole macho lyrics. Anyway, it's a beautiful song. [00:22:39] Speaker B: Well, we're all glad there's you, too. And I hope you have a great day. [00:22:43] Speaker C: I hope you have a great day also. Julie, thanks a lot. [00:22:46] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:22:46] Speaker C: Thank you. Bye bye, dear. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Bye. [00:22:48] Speaker C: Okay, let's go to Kevin in Winthrop. Kevin, you're on WBZ. Hello. One moment, please. The trouble is in his set, I think. Kevin, are you there? Yes. Okay, you're on WBZ. Hi, Bob Norman, just first time caller. Well, nice to hear from you. What can I do for you this morning, Kevin, to make your day brighter and your tears light around the band? Stand here just listening to your caller there talking about the black troops during the civil war. Yes, that was the 54th Massachusetts infantry that he was talking about. They were the first colored troops, their word, not mine, to see offensive action in the civil war. They attacked a fort Wagner in South Carolina. They never did take the fort, but most of those guys that died are buried in a national cemetery just outside of Paris island in Buford, South Carolina. And their commander, Chamberlain, he was only about 23 years old when he took command of that unit. Thank you. Did you see the movie that depicted it called Glory? Yeah, I thought it was done pretty well. Did you? Yes, I did. I'm a civil war reenactor. Oh, really? What do you mean by reenactor? We reenact battles of the civil war, do living history. No kidding. Now, where do you do this? All over New England, actually. All over the country. There's a couple of hundred thousand of civil War enactors throughout the United States. I didn't know that. Is there a group from this area that you're part of? Yeah, even though I'm from Winthrop. We were part of the six Michigan cavalry. Oh, really? Part of the Custer brigade. Now, when do you do this? Where do you do this? Some of these events all over New England. There's reenactments in Gettysburg, Manassas, Antietam, the battle of the wilderness. And there's also what are called generic battles that aren't a recreation of any one battle, but just a living history to show people how the soldiers lived and how they fought, the tactics. All of our equipment is original or made to original specifications. No kidding. That's interesting. I was not aware of that. How often do you do this? Well, our season starts in May, and we go right through October and sometimes November. So do you do a lot of traveling during that time? Yeah, basically we're around New England, but on occasion we try and get to Gettysburg, the first bull run. Okay. Because you mentioned Michigan. That's just the unit that we portray. But they're local people. Right. My guys are stretched from Danvis, Sargis all the way down to Brockton. Oh, I see. Hey, that sounds fascinating. I was totally unaware of all of that. You ought to come out and see one. I'd like to. Would you keep in touch with me and let me know where you are, what's happening? Sure. The first one of the season is in Connecticut, May 4 and fifth. That's in Hammondesset park. But in July, there's one at Brooksby. Also in August, we do one out at Fort Warren on Georgia's island. Really? And there's union and confederate and civilian encampments. And August 17 and 18th, and there's a battle every day. What got your interest? I'm a history nut. I love history, and the Civil War really turns me on because it was part of the victorian era, but yet we had huge conflict, and people don't know enough about their own history. We do events, and I've had college students ask me where the British are. I mean, during the civil war. Which ones are the British? Yeah, I see. We also do bodyguard work for a man that portrays Abraham Lincoln. And I've been standing in uniform next to this guy that looks more like Abe than the guy on a $5 bill. And somebody will say, what period of time is this? Oh, that's really awful. No, but I know. I understand what you're about here. It does kind of sicken you when people can't even figure something like that. Like Abraham Lincoln was with the civil war. When was the Civil War? And it wasn't that long ago. We were just celebrating, or at least honoring the, commemorating the 100th anniversary of it. Absolutely. And all of that kind of. So you think people would be able to put together at least some of these obvious things? No. We did a parade last year with the 54th mass, and when we marched by, people started booing us because they thought we had to be Confederates, because the 54th was black troops and we were white, even though we were in the same uniforms. Yeah. And it's amazing that people don't know what happened in their own country 100 years ago, because I think it's not only a remarkable country, I think the history of the United States has got to be one of the most fascinating stories of all. Absolutely. It's a delight to talk with you. I hope you'll keep in touch, and we'll talk some more another time. Is that okay with you? Absolutely. Thanks a lot. Thanks. Have a good day. You too. Have. Thank you for calling. It's Valentine's day at Brooks pharmacy, and people are talking Brooks. I can get candy or cards besides a card. We have various assortment of candies lots of chocolate. [00:29:11] Speaker B: Your box chocolate. Your musical teddy bears. [00:29:13] Speaker C: Little cupid things. Fresh flowers. Probably roses this year. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Perfume for the one you're thinking about. Chocolates with stuffed animals. [00:29:21] Speaker C: I'm going to buy her a box of candy to get her fat. 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We'll have a complete check on the very latest accu weather forecast at five this morning. That's about ten minutes from now. It's again, 32. Let's go to Drew in Norwood. Hi. Good morning, Drew. Good morning. How are you today? Fine, thank you. That woman that mentioned that singer, Lamont. Yes. She is terrific. Or was terrific. She was mentioned she had just died. What was her first name? I think it was Nancy. Nancy Lamot. Yeah. And if I can find one of her tapes or cds, I'll send it to you. What a nice thing to do. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Drew, if you listen at night to WQEWXR in New York. Yes. No, I know where they are, and I do hear them from time to time. They play a lot of her. That's where I've heard her before. Oh, really? Yeah. She's just terrific. And I know it's the kind of singer you'd like. If I can dig one out, I'm anxious to hear it. That's very kind of you, Drew. I appreciate that. I received my box of very valuable prizes. Oh, you did? From the birthday game from the WBZ. Tacky and totally worthless, tasteless gift and bookshop. The peeper key ring is the kind of thing that people like, at least whatever the other stuff may be, whether it's valuable to you or not. I do send along the peeper key ring, which most people seem to get a kick out of. Well, the best thing was a nice note from you. Well, thank you very much. I was trying to quote the note, and I forgot what I wrote, and I could tell it was done personally because you had typed it and everything was very nice. Thank you. That's right. You can tell by the bad typing. But I do. Somebody said to have your secretary send us, and I thought, are they kidding? You think besting? How's it going to supply me with the secretary? No, I do all that kind of stuff myself. I'm glad you got it, and I appreciate your kind comments on that. Drew, can I ask you one more question? Absolutely. Earlier this evening before I went to sleep, I just woke up. I heard you mention that Ernest Borgnine movie, Marty. Yes. Was not Julie Harris. That was the girl that played his girlfriend. I'm sorry, what name did you. Julie Harris that played his girlfriend. You said another lady. I said Betsy Blair. Yeah. No, I think that was who it was. It was Betsy Blair who I think at the time was married to Gene Kelly. I'm talking about the movie. Yes. No, I'm talking the movie, too, because the television show had Rod Steiger playing Marty, and I don't know who the. I can't remember who the woman was. His girlfriend was on it, but I'm fairly certain. I'll have to check it. But I think it was Betsy Blair. We're going to have to check that because I think it's Julie Harris. Hey, well, let's meet on the common with swords. Better yet, I'll call you next, okay? Okay. I'll check it when I get home. I have one of those movie books at home. We're listening to cast and stuff. It was the same lady that was in east of Eden that played the girlfriend, Annette. Yeah, no, I know Julie Harris. She's an incredible actress. Oh, yeah. Who's done millions of things. She's from Detroit or something. Yeah, I did know that. But anyway, we'll have to find out. I love the movie in any case, and I thought Ernest Borgnein was excellent, but it's possible you may very well be right. They should show it for Valentine's. What's that? They should show it for Valentine's. Oh, I show it anytime. I think it's a lovely movie. A very tender. He won an oscar for that, right? I believe so. Yes, I'm pretty sure he did. Hey, Drew, thanks a lot. And I appreciate that Lamont tape whenever you can send it. And thank you for the lovely note. You're welcome. All right. Bye bye. Bye bye, Drew. Let's go to Phil in Dorchester. Hi. Good morning, Phil. Hi, Norm. How are you? Good, thank you. I hope you're okay. Oh, yeah, I am. First time caller. I'm very nervous. Does my hair look. Oh, your hair looks great. And you put just enough makeup know to hide the wrinkles, the old wrinkles that you have covering your face. Listen, I say that because you sound like a very young guy with no wrinkles at all. Okay. I heard you a few minutes ago talking about constitution, USS Constitution. Yes. And I work for the park service over by Charlestown Navy. Oh, do you? Yeah. And the constitution's been open the whole time. They restricted the extent of the tours while she was in dry dock. Oh, I see. Okay, but she's floating now. There's still some work to do, but all the work in the hull and below decks has been done. They still have to put the guns back on. And all of her spars and masks aren't quite up yet. Aren't you great to call and tell us all of that? We couldn't get a better report than what you just said. I'm sorry. I feel like you were going to say some more and I interrupted you. Oh, not about constitution, but they are going to start having some cruises again. In fact, the new CEO is really taking an energetic approach to marketing the constitution. He's got a lot of high tech ideas, and he really wants to reach out and get the public interested. As I was mentioning, one of the most thrilling moments of my whole life was when we were on the USS Constitution and know told out to sea, to be turned around and all of that and the gun salutes and the fireboats. You really felt like you were really taking. Yeah, I was lucky enough to go on at once, too. Were you? Yeah. Now, were they calling the commandant the man who's in charge of it? Well, you mentioned some other title. I think the current title of the. It's usually a Navy commander who's had a good career, and often it's a last post in his service, and he's just called commanding officer, USS Constitution. Navy rank is usually commander, sometimes lieutenant commander. And he has a home, doesn't he? That's right near the USS Constitution. The old officers row in Charlestown, Navy. Now it's mostly park service housing, but the commanding officer of USS Constitution also lives there. You know his name? The current one? The current one is named Mike Beck. Michael Beck. Michael Beck. Okay. Because my wife and I were invited by the common, I can't remember how many years ago this was. Maybe about 1015 years ago, something like that. And then he had a little party at his house afterwards, and then we sat down there watching the fireworks from the esplanade at night. It was one of the loveliest days I think I ever spent my whole life was that I enjoyed that. Do you like working for the park service? Do you feel like a part of history and all of that? Well, I do support work. I work in our archives and museum collection section, and I help out a lot of researchers, and it's an interesting thing to be able to do for people. They want to see old photographs or old architectural drawings or look at something we've got in our collection that sounds beautiful. When the Navy Yard was open and there was still a real navy presence here, the commandant of the first naval district had his headquarters at the Navy yard. And that old mansion that stands by itself there was his official home. Oh, I see. And they had grand parties there back in the old days. But we're trying to keep the house up to snuff a little at a time, being right next to the bridge and everything. It had some structural problems, but we're licking them. Okay. It's an interesting area because the museum is right there. The USS Constitution Museum, Bunker Hill Museum is not far away, and it's an interesting area. Hey, thanks a lot, Phil. I really appreciate the information. You're very kind to call. Well, it's always nice to wake up to you, Norm. You're a really pleasant presence on the airwave. Thanks a million, Phil. Thanks a lot. Appreciate that. Bye bye. Now. This is the Bob Brawley show. Norm Nathan sitting in. [00:41:19] Speaker B: These are the sounds of the 50 million people with high blood pressure who may have a cough and cold, but can't take most cold medicines. If you're one of them, coracetin hears you. Now, there's new coracedin cough and cold tablets, the only major cough and cold tablet with a decongestant free formula, the ingredients pharmacists recommend for people like you. So take new chloroced and Coulson cold tablets at the very first sign. And for the rest of your family, there's choracedin d with a decongestant. Use only as directed. [00:41:49] Speaker C: Something new about Quaker oatmeal can't be the red and blue canister. It's been around forever. But did you know that a diet low in saturated fat and cholesterol and high in sources of fiber like Quaker oatmeal may help reduce the risk of heart disease? That's pretty exciting stuff. It's all over the news. Imagine that, Quaker oatmeal. A celebrity right in your own cabinet. Quaker oatmeal. Oh, what those oats can do. I don't know why that commercial makes me laugh, but then again, at this time of the day, everything makes me laugh. I think it's because the screws are getting loose in my head. Hey, listen, I thought I'd take a few days off because I'm exhausted. Now, an old guy can work just so long, then he's going to lie down. Bob Raleigh. This is his show, and he'll be back with you tonight. Mike Einstein. Thank you very much. And thank you. Tony Nesbitt. The lovely. Marilyn Guerrellnik, I'm Norm Nathan. See you the weekend. Gary LaPierre, the BZ news team coming up next. You're listening to the 50,000 watts clear channel voice of news radio, WBZ. Boston News Radio 1030, your first choice all day, every day. It is 05:00 on a Monday morning. Good morning. The Boston temperature freezing, 32 degrees. Nobody. Bezi accuweather meteorologist Aliyah Abrams says that's about as good as it's going to guess. Going to be partly sunny, windy and very cold today. And what we have right now is probably the high for the day. The temperatures will fall into the 20s by this afternoon. Clear and frigid. Single numbers tonight. I'm Gary LaPierre at WDBC News. A nationwide search continues this morning for two of four inmates who escaped from a Rhode island detention center over the weekend. WDBC's Carol Lannigan is here with our story. Carol, good morning. [00:43:45] Speaker B: Good morning, Gary. Paul Lowe of Lowell and Dennis du Salt of Pottucker, Rhode island, were part of a forsome that cut through a recreation yard fence, climbed over razor wire and broke out of the Rhode island facility Saturday night. Lowe is awaiting trial on carjacking and rape charges. And Lowell Sergeant Brendan Durkin tells me this morning he is considered dangerous, been. [00:44:05] Speaker C: Armed to the past. He's got a record of several violent offenses, and we just would not discount the fact that he could possibly be armed. [00:44:13] Speaker B: Police believe that Lowell might be somewhere in the Lowell area. That manhunt is also on for Dennis du Salt, also awaiting trial on weapons charges. PoTucket, Rhode island police believe he may be in that area as well. The two other inmates were caught in Attleborough shortly after the break. Arthur Butchie Doe and Anthony Shea, both of Charlestown, are now in police custody. This is the first break in the history of that Rhode island facility. CaroL Lanigan, WBZ News Radio 1030. [00:44:40] Speaker C: It's the stretch run in Iowa with the latest polls giving Bob Dole the lead heading into tonight's caucuses. This is serious business, and it all starts right here in Iowa. Dole and a handful of other GOP candidates making their last minute pitches for support. Steve Forbes hoping for a strong finish to capture second place. I'm an optimist. I believe that the truth gets out. The american people will change the inside political game in Washington. They'll do so because they will liberate the true energies, the true genius, the true compassion of the american people. Meantime, President Clinton is also keeping a high profile out in Iowa and ABC's vic Ratner has that angle to the story. To the cheers of thousands of college students and supporters at Drake University here in Des Moines, President Clinton did his best to reign on the Republicans'parade. I am tired of people trying to divide the american people for their own interests instead of unite us for our common interests. Mr. Clinton's likely opponent, Bob Dole, never mentioned the president, saying he wanted to be positive in his approach to politics. Vic Rapner, ABC News, Des Moines. In other news, the phone company is going to do it again. Two new area codes for eastern Massachusetts. And in this move, it's conceivable your next door neighbor could be in a different area code. You'd have to dial eleven digits rather than seven to reach them. The globe has a story this morning saying nine X is running out of numbers faster than expected. And by the spring of 98, they plan to add two more area codes, a new one within the six one seven area and a new one within the 508 area. When nine X added the 508 area code a few years back, they thought that would meet the demand right through the year 2003, but it did not. Within two months, Nine X is planning to put together a new plan to present to the state. Boston firefighters are busy this morning battling a two alarm over on Oxford street. The blaze broke out just a short while ago in a five story brick apartment building. No word on whether anybody was inside. Boston firefighters just brought that situation under control. However, on Oxford street, it is under control. WBZ Newstime is 503 traffic on the first WBZ. Joe Stapleton, you're sponsored by Dunkin donuts this morning. Joe, good morning. Good morning to Gary. Right now, a problem out here already on one of these ramps from the mouse pike eastbound to the northbound expressway. We have an accident here involving a track to trailer being cleared away as we speak. But it did involve a fuel spill, so they're cleaning that up as well. Hope that that ramp opened up by 06:00 this morning. But watch out for a detour and a delay again on the ramp from the pike inbound to the northbound Expressway. Also a breakdown to be careful of. 128 southbound up by route 37 in the Braintree area. A couple of slippery spots out here, too, on some of the side streets and on and off ramps. Take them slowly this morning. No major problems around 128, though. Pretty quiet, too on 495 and right at the speed limit on route two. Route nine in the mass pike eastbound. Just stapleton. WBZ, 24 hours traffic network. Here's a deal too good to pass up now at Dunkin'donuts. 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While you're there, enter their passion to sail, drawing for a free seven day royal caribbean cruise. Call 1809 nine 8000 for details and discover your passion to sail now at a Uniglobe travel agency near you. Uniglobe the problem solver and participating? Really? I know you do screenplays. [00:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I can't really talk about it now because we're in big negotiations about it, but it's a very incredibly unique original concept and it's going to be very exciting. So I'm still in the process of doing some deal making here. I haven't finalized it yet. [00:49:04] Speaker C: Oh, I hope that works out well for you. [00:49:06] Speaker B: It's going to be great. It's going to be really great. But I want to set the best deal that I can because I worked two years on the script and as I said, it's sort of an original idea and an incredibly fascinating one, sort of along the lines of ghost and splash, things like that. [00:49:22] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:49:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Fascinating. A romantic comedy fantasy and something that will make everyone feel good. So I'm in the process of doing some deal making for that now. [00:49:34] Speaker C: What about the Woody allen movie? What is the WOodY allen movie called? It rhymes, and I can't think of the name of it. [00:49:39] Speaker B: Oh, no. The Woody Allen movie that rhymes is called mighty Aphrodite, and that's already out. This is the new one. It's untitled yet. He hasn't figured out a title yet. [00:49:47] Speaker C: And Drew is in that she's actually. [00:49:49] Speaker B: Shooting it right now. [00:49:51] Speaker C: OkAy. Now, I know that Woody Allen keeps these things a big secret. He doesn't want to talk about things until they're actually right. [00:49:58] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:49:59] Speaker C: Do you have Any idea what the basic plot is? [00:50:01] Speaker B: I don't have a clue. They're not telling me. So I'm sort of LiKe the president of the last to know club. So I'm trying to use that. [00:50:10] Speaker C: Do you have a nice relationship with Drew? [00:50:12] Speaker B: Yes. Excellent. Excellent. We didn't for a while, and now it's really good. [00:50:16] Speaker C: OkAy. Do you have OtHER ChiLdReN? [00:50:18] Speaker B: No, I can only handle one. Thank you very much. [00:50:20] Speaker C: Now, what is Drew? I know this is a square question, but when Drew sees you coming out with a book, know erotic tips and sensual stories. [00:50:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank God she's grown up. [00:50:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Now, what is her reaction to all of that? [00:50:34] Speaker B: Well, I guess if she were younger, it might be embarrassing, but now she's an adult and know the adult world, and so she's really proud. She thinks it's going to be useful and helpful to everyone. It's very entertaining and has a great sense of humor and well wriTten. And she's very proud that I accomplished this on my own. [00:50:52] Speaker C: OkAy. And I think she ought to be because I think it's a fun book and I really enjoyed it very much. [00:50:57] Speaker B: It's an easy read. It's easy for people to read because I'm tired of all this technical stuff. I don't want a lot of statistics and facts and figures. I want something that's fun, that's going to work, and it's easy to read. [00:51:08] Speaker C: And sex ought to be fun. [00:51:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:11] Speaker C: And people make a big thing out of it. Like it? [00:51:14] Speaker B: Absolutely. Well, there are these sex report and survey books. I'm not going to mention any names, but I don't think they teach much. They're kind of depressing. And to me, it's like, let's have some sensual stories and good vignettes and good suggestions and things that actually work. All of the things in my book work because they're vignettes of people who've done them. [00:51:35] Speaker C: Okay. Let me repeat that number. That's a 1800 number. [00:51:38] Speaker B: Oh, the 800 number. It's called publishers Resources. And it's 1809 37557, extension two. Extension two. I'm so glad you remembered. [00:51:50] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:51:51] Speaker B: And then I think they can also get it at Barnes and Noble, and they can order it there if they don't have it in Barnes and Noble and B. Dalton, I think, is carrying it. [00:51:59] Speaker C: It's fine. Good. I'll put it in a brown paper bag for you. [00:52:01] Speaker B: Oh, absolutely. [00:52:05] Speaker C: People are always a little ashamed. We were so prudish about this whole thing. [00:52:09] Speaker B: You know it's true. But I think what's even more sad is not to find out. [00:52:15] Speaker C: No, I think you're absolutely right. And I'm just as prudish as anybody. Because I've been thinking, what am I going to ask Jade that doesn't destroy everything and all that kind of stuff? You're kind of concerned about what people think? [00:52:29] Speaker B: Sure. And look how easy it is. [00:52:31] Speaker C: It was not only fantastically easy, but I hate to even say goodbye to you because it's been so much fun. I got to pick up a copy of the September issue of Playboy magazine. [00:52:43] Speaker A: That may be all we have of that interview, as it was close to conclusion before the tape ended. So great to hear the voices of Gary, Carol, and Joe again. Wasn't that quite the mix of commercials and sponsors? Enjoy your extra day this month and we'll see you in March. Closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it. Four tietta del fuego and Mogamba. Hitching up the Conestoga wagon and traveling from the port of Boston to the banks of the Merrimack river. The wild, savage country of Methuan, Massachusetts. The Clean Water act. The Freedom Trail Pete Suria Regina Robert Gould Shaw the USS Constitution, the 54th Massachusetts Regiment Charleston Navyard Brooks Pharmacy Auto Sound Civil War reenactments Peeper key rings. Nice notes from Norm Gary Kasparov IBM deep blue chess. Coracedin Cough and cold tablets. Quaker Oatmeal Nine X Publishers Resources Barnes and Noble B. Dalton booksellers Jade Barrymore. Drew Barrymore. Mike Epstein. And a world class lover in his own right. Norm Nathan. I'm Tony Nesbitt.