Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Oh, happy day. Whilst scouring the vault, I discovered at least 20 remaining cassettes covering November. Oddly, though, they are all dated from the 20th and beyond. Doesn't matter what year. Nothing from earlier parts of the month. I'll have to check again, but I think I saw one entire night covered from start to finish. I am toying with the idea of airing that in weekly installments, but it'll most likely have to wait until next year. We have ourselves a dumb birthday game from November 22, 1993, the title of which shall be Punkin Pie.
The Players, Joan Pat, Marianne, Fred. Mike Epstein, producing and playing in studio. John Kelly, producing and playing in studio. And Jack Hart in Traffic, the Birthdays. Norm mentions that it was his mom's birthday. And then we jump to Louis Tiant, Jerry Bach and Susan Anspach. Then we get three. Yeah, count them, three. In what year was the first jukebox installed at the Palais Royale Hotel and Saloon in San Francisco? In what year did the first issue of Life magazine hit the stands? And in what year did Enrico Caruso make his American debut at the Met in New York City? In Rigoletto, episode 208, pumpkin pie slices its way to your ears.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: Now, I understand that. I'm just joking. I understand you have to get into a routine, whether, you know, and kind of hoping that will help your insomnia.
[00:01:37] Speaker C: Even if you wake up at seven, just brush your teeth and go back to bed, you have to maintain a routine.
[00:01:43] Speaker D: Is that an exciting life, Marianne? Oh, getting up, brushing the teeth.
[00:01:48] Speaker E: I feel like brushing my teeth right now.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: Anyway, that's John Kelly, who said that. And John is a producer here at WBZ also, and he wears that title nobly. You know how many people fight to become producers here?
Just last week there were at least two of them, I think.
Anyway, John, nice to have you with us in your game. This is the second crack at this.
[00:02:12] Speaker E: Yeah. And after winning last night, I'm very well.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: That's right, you did win last night. No, I didn't win, but no, we had two winners. That's right. We had two winners, I think, did we not?
[00:02:22] Speaker E: Yeah, but yeah, I didn't win. I just made that up.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:02:26] Speaker E: Sure.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: That's right, you did. You've been hanging around with me too long, sitting there fabricating stories. And we also have Jack Hart, WBZ 24 hour traffic network reporter. Hi, Jack. Hi. Ooh, the boys, you know. Do you want to giggle for? A lot of people like the way you giggle, Jack.
[00:02:43] Speaker C: I love when you get him Cracking up.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: And that's only when he's doing a traffic report. And the way we have things arranged now, I don't get to introduce him very much, but I do like when he laughs uncontrollably and really sounds stupid. I really love that. That's what I'm best known for. Yeah. Could you act stupid for us so everybody kind of get a warm feeling about that? Well, you can't do it, like, unnaturally. But I'm sure in the next half hour or so, I'll manage to act stupid a good deal. Five or six times. Oh, that's wonderful. I hope that's not just a wild promise, but something you will live up to.
[00:03:20] Speaker E: You know, in the traffic business, Norm, cracking up can be kind of a dangerous thing.
[00:03:25] Speaker C: Hey, you can tell he's hanging around.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: We get Peter Casey on the phone. Maybe we ought to realign our production staff here. Oh, he's. Yeah, this is John Kelly's second crack edition. He's already getting. He's just getting far out. Kind of crazy.
[00:03:40] Speaker E: I got a million.
[00:03:41] Speaker B: Oh, shut up. Okay. Oh, a million. Oh, we'll never finish. Here's the. Here's the thing. I tell you the names of people who are born on this day, as you know, and you tell me how old you think they are. And there aren't too many people. Were born November 23rd. You know who really was? This is. This is very serious. My mother. This is my mother's birthday. My late mother. November. She was born November 23, 1903. She would be 90 years old today.
[00:04:08] Speaker F: Wow.
[00:04:09] Speaker B: She was a sweetheart of a lady, and I really miss her. Here are the other people who bought on this table. Louis TN was born on this table. Let me give you some clues about El Tianti. El Tianti.
He was one of the reasons the Boston Red Sox won the American league pennant in 1975, racking up 18 victories. Had a great pitching style. He faced the. He faced a pitch, the abadder, and then kind of spin around. He almost looked like a little. A doll on a. On a rotating platform or some. Spin around and completely around. Yeah. He'd look.
[00:04:44] Speaker D: Wave to the people in the bleachers.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: He really would. He'd look at second base.
[00:04:49] Speaker G: Well, he said if he had that kind of style, they'd trade him.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: They did trade him out. He didn't retire from the Red Sox, did he?
[00:04:58] Speaker D: Free agent. He went somewhere. But he did. He did leave for a while.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: And on the calls of Louie Louie, he was just such an interesting man. I loved watching him Pitch. Okay, Joan, what do you think? How old do you think Louis Tiant is this very day?
[00:05:14] Speaker G: I think Louie Tant is 48.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: Okay, and what do you think, Pat?
Louis, Louis, Louie, Louie.
I'm sorry, how much? 51. 51. Okay. And Marianne, what do you think? 51.
[00:05:35] Speaker C: What's that?
[00:05:36] Speaker B: 51. 51. And how about you, Fred?
[00:05:42] Speaker F: About 52.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: 62.
Okay. And Mike, what do you. What do you say?
[00:05:48] Speaker D: I think the Louis Tiana never should have been traded.
[00:05:52] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:05:52] Speaker D: If you're still playing for the Sox today, we'd be in contention. Thank you.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: Senior league.
[00:05:59] Speaker D: I think. I think Louie is 52 years old today. No, 53.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: 53. I think he's 53 years of age or years old today. Okay. And John, what do you think? John Kelly.
[00:06:12] Speaker E: I'm trying to think how to say it in Spanish, sort of in, you know, in reference to Louis, but I can't. I don't know Spanish.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: That's. That's a nice tribute you want to pay to him by speaking in his native language, because he did. He did talk English with kind of a heavy accent. I'd forgotten about that.
[00:06:27] Speaker E: Yeah, but I can only count up to like, maybe 11 in Spanish. Four years in high school.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: Okay, well, maybe you could, you know, multiply that six. 56.
[00:06:39] Speaker D: That would be Al T.
Quince.
[00:06:43] Speaker E: Very nice.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: Oh, well, show a follow up.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: I remember when people would interview him, the reporters would interview him after a game, and he finished. You know, it's bad enough to interview a guy who's flowing in English, sort of, because you can't figure out what they're talking. Why we put our both pants on at the same time, and we came to play the game. And they always say stupid things, Roger.
Yeah, well, they all say that. They all say the same thing. Like you press their belly button and out comes this whole stupid talk. But with Louie, it was kind of interesting because you couldn't even figure out what he was saying about, we play good ball game.
We play good ball game. That's all right. I looked around and thought, Louie, you must be here. It sounded so much like it.
[00:07:26] Speaker C: Baseball be very, very good to me.
[00:07:28] Speaker G: Yeah, that's right.
[00:07:30] Speaker B: Okay. Jack Hart, do you think you can follow any of this? I don't know.
Say, how old do you think?
[00:07:42] Speaker G: Senor winces.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's all right.
How old do you think Louis Tian is?
52. Do that again. That was so nice. 52. Oh, I'm feeling fire in my loins. That was just so beautiful.
Okay. Louis Tian actually is exactly what Mike Epstein said. 53.
What's that?
[00:08:19] Speaker C: Please move on to the next one.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, I see. Okay. How about Jerry Bach? Jerry Bach is written. Is a Broadway. A composer, Broadway shows. He's from New Haven, Connecticut, which doesn't give you any clues to his age, but maybe the fact that he wrote Fiddler on the Roof. He wrote Fiorella, which was based upon the mayor of New York at that time, Fiorello LaGuardia.
I'm sure he's written some other things, too. They just don't come readily to mind. But there's Jerry Bach. You imagine the razzing Fiorello must have gotten in his home neighborhood being named Little Flower? Yeah, that's kind of a sissy name, isn't it? I suppose a little, yeah, a little. Well, Fiorello. But that's what Fiorello means. Yeah. Well, that's okay. Yeah, Fiorella. That's right. Why would his folks name him that? I don't know. Because it's probably. It's a lovely name.
[00:09:14] Speaker G: They got mixed up.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: You think they were trying to name him something else?
[00:09:18] Speaker G: I don't know.
[00:09:19] Speaker D: He didn't figure out what he was.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: You know, they didn't realize he was a little guy.
[00:09:24] Speaker G: Well, you know, don't talk about those things.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: You know, that's. Especially back then. We did.
[00:09:29] Speaker G: That's right.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: Now we talk about it all the time to a point where it makes up the.
[00:09:34] Speaker G: It is pretty nauseating, isn't it?
[00:09:35] Speaker B: Yeah. It makes up the discussion on television talk shows. At least four out of five of them, it seems, every single day.
[00:09:42] Speaker G: Well, are we all having Thanksgiving with the Bobbitts?
[00:09:49] Speaker B: Oh, Jesus.
Oh, Mary Ann, please, please, please.
[00:10:00] Speaker C: Every man when they heard that story, they cross their legs.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: You got that right.
[00:10:04] Speaker G: They're still doing it.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: You bet. You cross both of them. What? What did women do when they heard that story?
[00:10:11] Speaker C: I'll be honest. As much as I call men pigs, I didn't think it was funny.
[00:10:16] Speaker G: I want to know what the dispatcher said to the police when they sent them out to go pick up the member.
[00:10:22] Speaker C: I wanted to.
[00:10:24] Speaker G: You're looking for. For a.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: Do you mind if we get onto something else?
Yeah. Thank you, Marianne. I'm talking over you purposely because I would just soon get onto something else, like Jerry Box age, which I think is what we were talking about. The fire in my loins has been extinguished.
It's kind of hard to get romantic and passionate when you're discussing somebody's member, especially where they're looking for it.
[00:10:57] Speaker E: Any club that would have me as a member. I wouldn't want to be.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: Jack Hart. How old do you think Jerry Bach is? Jerry Bach? Jerry Bach in the runner roof. Yeah, and Fiorello. But we're not going to go through that again.
Oh, let's think.
Yes, you're going through agony there, you poor soul. Oh, grieve, grieve.
63. 63, okay. I like the way you did that too. 63, John, what do you say?
[00:11:46] Speaker E: I'd say say 62.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: 62.
Okay.
[00:11:51] Speaker D: And Mike, is this guy any relation to Ernie Bach?
[00:11:55] Speaker B: Yes, he is Ernie Bach. He is the same person. And also the. The Derek Bach who was the president of Harvard. And also. And also he also tired. You're going to say something about beer, aren't you?
That that Bach fellow is a bear of a man, fellas. A bear of a man, you know? Well, like beer.
[00:12:18] Speaker E: Beer.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Oh, beer. See, the beer of a man. Beer of a man.
No, I like humor like that. The snappy one liners that you spent 20 minutes explaining.
All right.
[00:12:32] Speaker D: Taking everything into consideration. The facts as we have them before us. I'm going to say this guy is 6, 67 years old.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: 67 today. Today, yes. Well, that's the day we're talking about today. November 23rd was his birthday. That's true. And Fred, what do you think?
[00:12:51] Speaker F: 58.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: 58 says Fred. And you say it a little hesitantly, like you're kind of afraid, you feel insecure in the year of the 1993s? Nope. Oh, that's good. I'm glad. Mary Ann, what do you think?
[00:13:11] Speaker C: Do you believe I used to smoke?
[00:13:14] Speaker B: No, I don't.
[00:13:14] Speaker F: That.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Does anybody do what we're talking about?
[00:13:18] Speaker C: When you smoke, your voice gets deeper.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: Oh, I see.
[00:13:22] Speaker D: Good Lord.
[00:13:24] Speaker C: 73.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: 73. I think she's telling us her voice used to be more highly pitched. Yeah. Was it. Was it higher than it is now?
[00:13:33] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:13:35] Speaker B: I don't know, Jim. Nobody knew what she was saying. But the dog's okay, Ron. That's right.
Pat, what do you think?
[00:13:45] Speaker F: I'm gonna say 74.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: 74, okay. And Joan?
[00:13:52] Speaker G: 76.
[00:13:53] Speaker B: That's the spirit.
[00:13:54] Speaker E: Oh, three people said that at once.
[00:13:57] Speaker B: That was an exciting moment.
I hope we taped that because we can put that up for the awards.
Jerry Barkham is 65 years old today, actually.
[00:14:10] Speaker E: All right, who was closest?
[00:14:12] Speaker B: Let's see, the closest. Mike said 67 and that's two years off. And Jack said. Jack Hatch at 63, which is also two years old. I said 64, didn't I? No, I believe you said 62. Oh, yeah. Oh, boy. He's. He's cheating and lying and, you know.
Yeah. You better check out the equipment before this goes off. This guy goes off.
[00:14:42] Speaker E: Just the short term memory. It's. It's going. Okay.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: So Mike. Actually, Mike has got two correct answers and the closest twice. And Jack has one. Susan Anspack. Do you know their name? Because they're not familiar to me. But she was in Evangelical. Not Aspect.
No, we're all borrowing our heads in shame. You know, Susan Aspect from Southern California appeared in Five Easy Pieces. And she was in Play It Again, Sam, which was the Woody Allen movie.
[00:15:14] Speaker E: Oh, her.
[00:15:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:15] Speaker G: They have to put her back together again after the Five Easy Pieces.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: See, we got a wild, humorous bunch here today, haven't we?
[00:15:24] Speaker G: It's defending rapidly.
[00:15:26] Speaker E: Can you top this?
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Okay, let's start with. Let's start with you, Marianne. How old do you think Susan Anspach is?
[00:15:36] Speaker C: 43.
[00:15:38] Speaker B: 43.
Do you know what she looks like?
[00:15:42] Speaker C: If I'm not mistaken, isn't she a perfect blonde?
[00:15:48] Speaker B: I don't know, actually. She was.
[00:15:50] Speaker G: She.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: Where the.
Was she the. I can't remember.
[00:15:54] Speaker C: No, I know of the name. I don't think I've ever seen her.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Okay, Joan, what do you think?
[00:16:01] Speaker G: Oh, I think she's.
I gotta go back to being a 48 again.
[00:16:07] Speaker B: 48. Okay. And, Mike. Yeah.
[00:16:12] Speaker D: I'm gonna say she's 47.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: That was acting. That was. Wasn't that fantastic? That was really. That was something. Yeah. However, we've already cast our movie and we never even thought of you, so. Stop it.
Jack Hart, what do you think? Oh, 46. 46. Okay. A pat.
[00:16:38] Speaker F: Oh, 51.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: 51. Okay, John, I'm desperate here for a.
[00:16:44] Speaker E: Point, so could you review the ages?
[00:16:47] Speaker B: No. No fair. No. No. All right, we had 48. 51, 43, 47, and 46.
[00:16:55] Speaker E: Go with 40.
[00:16:57] Speaker C: Married?
[00:16:58] Speaker E: Am I?
[00:16:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: No, Mariana already said she's not married yet. What do you look like, Mariana? You a little tiny person?
[00:17:10] Speaker C: I'm four foot ten. I weigh about 73 pounds.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Brown. Brown hair, brown eyes.
[00:17:17] Speaker E: You're a wee person.
[00:17:18] Speaker C: I'm. I'm no bigger than a minute.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: She's a Smurf.
Okay, Fred, how old?
[00:17:27] Speaker F: How old?
[00:17:27] Speaker E: Discrimination.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Who didn't ask? Just like. Oh, John, I asked you. 42. And what do you think, Fred? 50. 50.
[00:17:37] Speaker G: That's compressed.
[00:17:39] Speaker B: Okay. Actually, Susan Anspec is 48. Oh. So Joan said 48. All right. You are. You are pretty close, though, considering none of you seem to have any idea who she is.
[00:17:54] Speaker E: Nor do you.
[00:17:56] Speaker B: No, I really don't. I cannot picture what she looks like. But then again, I was not guessing the age.
[00:18:01] Speaker E: That's true.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: Okay, now we're kind of out of birthdays for today and all that.
[00:18:05] Speaker G: That's it.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:06] Speaker D: Do we have any dates?
[00:18:07] Speaker B: Yes, we do. Yes, we do. We have some dates and kind of some fun things. For example, a dumb date game.
[00:18:15] Speaker F: I remember how many do.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: This was the. The first jukebox was installed in the Palais Royale Hotel in San Francisco. The contraption was devised by Lewis Glass.
It consisted of an Edison tinfoil phonograph with four listening tubes and a coin slot. For each tube, a nickel purchased a couple of minutes of music.
[00:18:42] Speaker C: Didn't he just pass away?
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Lewis Glass?
[00:18:46] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:18:46] Speaker E: Oh, that was Philip.
Philip Glass.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Philip Glass.
[00:18:51] Speaker E: His son.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: I see.
[00:18:54] Speaker C: I thought it was breakup.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: No.
This is so embarrassing.
Anybody who listened to this, tell him Bob Raleigh had not gone on vacation and he was doing the program. Don't mention my name again.
Juke was slang.
You probably, because I know you're going to ask that. Marianne, what does juke mean? Where they get jukeboxed with slang for disorderly house or brothel?
[00:19:23] Speaker E: A juke joint.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Juke joint, that's right. That was a lyric in a song too, wasn't it? Don't juke jump. Anyway, Organ. Juke. Organ was the original name. The jukebox in the film the Color Purple.
They would meet in the juke joint.
Isn't that interesting? Oh, son of again. Let's see if the AP has anything different about that. No. First Royal. The first jukebox made its debut. San Francisco's Pele Royal Saloon and so on. Anyway, what year was that? The date was November 23rd. Was is today's date. But what was the year?
We'll start with you, Pat. What do you think?
[00:20:05] Speaker F: Oh.
[00:20:08] Speaker B: Very first jukebox. And remember, it had.
Is that the one with the two tubes? It. Yeah. It consists of an Edison tinfoil phonograph and four listening tubes. Okay, so you had to. You had to hold it up your ear. There was no. No big speaker or anything.
What's that cost of nickel?
Yeah. You. Yeah.
[00:20:32] Speaker G: That was expensive.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know about a nickel. Yeah. Nickel. Brewer said nickel purchased a couple of minutes of music. Yes.
[00:20:46] Speaker F: 1919.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: 1908.
[00:20:49] Speaker F: 1908.
[00:20:51] Speaker B: Okay. And Jack, what do you think? 1903. 1903.
Okay.
John, what do you think?
[00:21:10] Speaker E: Could I say hi to my relatives in Philadelphia since Marianne is on the phone?
[00:21:14] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:21:15] Speaker E: I Have an aunt and uncle who live in the Philadelphia area.
[00:21:19] Speaker C: But you're not related to the John Kelly's, are you?
[00:21:22] Speaker E: Oh, yes, I am.
[00:21:23] Speaker C: Like the Grace Kelly. John Kelly.
[00:21:25] Speaker E: Yes. And the Gene Kelly's. And Claire brickwork, the monasteries of Philadelphia.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: John, you wouldn't mind guessing I went here. Juke Parks was introduced. Would you, if you get time, 1910. 1910. Okay. What do you think? Fred?
[00:21:51] Speaker G: 1915.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: And Joan, 1917. 1917. Okay.
[00:21:59] Speaker D: And Mike? 1907.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: And Marianne, 1924. Oh, okay, 1924. The actual year was 1899.
[00:22:15] Speaker F: Oh, no.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah, before it. If you thought of it, we all lose. But no, you. Well, Mike. Mike's. We'll see. No, Jack said 1903. No, I said 1903. I said 1903. You both did.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: I said 1901.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: No, I got Pac Sang in 1908. And Fred, 1915. Did I write that wrong?
No, you said Pat. You said nineteen eight.
And Mike said nineteen seven.
[00:22:43] Speaker F: Who?
I said nineteen oh three.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Who did Pat. Did you say nineteen oh three?
[00:22:50] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:22:52] Speaker F: Figured out the nickel.
[00:22:54] Speaker E: Oh, to the nickel.
[00:22:55] Speaker B: No, I got 198 written down. Are you. You positive of that?
[00:22:59] Speaker F: No, I would. I'm positive.
[00:23:02] Speaker B: You're not lying to me enough because you wouldn't lie to your dad.
[00:23:05] Speaker F: But if you think. If you think. If you think I'm wrong, then you keep it the way it is. But I know I said 1903.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: No, if you know you said 1903, I'll mark you down for 1903.
[00:23:15] Speaker F: I don't know if that makes sense.
[00:23:16] Speaker E: Let's play it back on the tape.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah, let's. Let's go back for the instant replay. Okay.
[00:23:21] Speaker E: All right.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: We'll say that you and. And Jack both won that one then. Wasn't a nickel kind of, except expensive in 1899. Yeah, but. But the thing was, it was a whole different invention. I guess they figured that we can get whatever we can because people will be excited about this whole new thing and they'd be willing to pay more than if it were something that had been around for a while.
[00:23:44] Speaker G: That's pretty amazing.
[00:23:44] Speaker C: And was Pat Boone the first song played?
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Yes, that's right. It was something about the blue suede shoes.
That wasn't Pat Bone, though, was it?
[00:23:57] Speaker C: Oh, yes, he recorded that.
Didn't he record that?
[00:24:03] Speaker B: I think he may have done.
I think he did later on. Yeah, he did a polite cover version of that.
Okay, how about Life magazine? The first issue of Life magazine hit the stands. The picture magazine, of course, created by Henry Luce, who's founded Time magazine as well.
And Henry R. Loose anyway, the publisher. And what year was that? The first issue of Life magazine.
[00:24:34] Speaker E: Did you hear about his wife, Norm? No, she was loose.
[00:24:41] Speaker B: John, could you get Mike just to listen closely? I want to want John to hear this. Yeah. Could you get him transferred to some other ship, you know, where he could do less harm because he's a dangerous missile.
[00:24:53] Speaker E: I'm sorry, that. That's. That's it for me.
[00:24:55] Speaker D: We're thinking.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:24:56] Speaker D: We're thinking of trading him to RKO for a producer to be named later.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: That's right, to send him to rko. They have no standards there at all, so it won't really matter.
HD is even fewer standards.
[00:25:07] Speaker G: Maybe just need to up his medication.
[00:25:09] Speaker B: Yeah, or if we buy Wei, maybe he could go there. That'd be kind of good. He could do the Eddie Adeline show.
That would fix his wagon.
Okay, let's start with you, Joan. This is a daring program, isn't it?
[00:25:25] Speaker C: Huh?
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Joan, what do you think? The year Life magazine first came out. The first issue was on November 23rd.
[00:25:34] Speaker G: It was right now.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: 1910. 1910, okay. At Pat.
[00:25:41] Speaker F: There you go.
[00:25:42] Speaker G: Okay.
[00:25:49] Speaker F: I just have one question.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: Yeah?
[00:25:52] Speaker F: Is Mr. Loose still alive?
[00:25:54] Speaker B: No, he's not okay, that's what I want. I don't even know. I don't even know whether he is or not. I just said.
I mean, if he's alive, what can he do? Sue me? What?
No, I don't believe. No, he's not. He is not alive. He's not okay. He died. He died about a half hour ago.
His body is now lying in state at Ionson's Funeral Home on the swamps. Good. Lynn line. On the swamps. At Salem line, actually.
We will have services at 8:00 this morning. If you're not there, you'll never collect any prize from me ever again. Why don't I shut up and tell you? What. What? What do you think, Pat?
[00:26:38] Speaker F: 1917. 1917.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: You got that? Circle 1917. Don't forget now. Don't deny this later and say you some other day. Okay?
Mary Ann, what do you think spring.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: Training starts in AD days? 1924.
[00:26:58] Speaker E: Oh, baseball fan.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: What did you say? Oh, spring Training starts in 88 days. That what you said.
[00:27:03] Speaker G: Okay, Fred, what's any good?
[00:27:07] Speaker B: Why the Red Sox train it.
[00:27:09] Speaker E: That's true. The Phillies had a good, good season last year.
[00:27:12] Speaker C: Yes, and congratulations to Toronto.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: Okay, Fred, what do you think? What? What year did the Life magazine make its debut?
What's that?
[00:27:22] Speaker F: You know, pictures Around.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: I think I do. Yes.
But if I told you would give. You give away the year?
[00:27:30] Speaker F: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I'll tell you afterwards, though. Oh, I think I don't have it. I don't. I don't have the name listed here in any of the information that I have. But I. I think I do know.
Fred, what do you think? Ind. 30.
[00:27:44] Speaker C: 1930.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:27:46] Speaker D: Mike, I think that this was 1921.
[00:27:52] Speaker F: 1921.
[00:27:53] Speaker D: 21. 21. Okay.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: John, what do you think? 1932. 32, Jack, you know, wacky enough. I was thinking. Thinking 1921. He was thinking 1921. So he was wacky. That is wild. Wacky and off the wall and crazy. Yeah. Okay. Life magazine, first of all, came out during an election year, so that would.
I don't know how many of you mentioned 1924 was an election year. 1932, that John said was an election year, but it was a little later than that. It was 19. 1936.
[00:28:37] Speaker G: Oh, my.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: And I think it was Franklin Roosevelt. His picture, I think, would have been on the COVID Might have been Adolf Hitler, I suppose, because Germany was beginning to, you know, make bad noises then, or maybe it was a little bit later. I think it was Franklin Roosevelt on the first. On the first cover of Time. No, this is Life. What I'm. I guess what I'm saying is, I don't know, but it was 1936, and I. And so John, who said 1932 came the closest.
[00:29:07] Speaker G: That's really good.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That is very.
[00:29:10] Speaker E: Another all mad at me.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: Well, let's see. No, you. You have just one correct answer. Mike has two, and Jack Hart has also has two.
[00:29:19] Speaker G: Wasn't John the one who was begging before I was? Well, see, there you go.
[00:29:23] Speaker E: I got one point last night. I got one tonight.
[00:29:26] Speaker G: Well, you're new.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: You'll get. And Joan, you've got one correct answer. So is Pat, so. Mary Ann.
[00:29:33] Speaker C: Yeah, Me and Fred are bringing up the rear.
[00:29:36] Speaker D: That's true.
[00:29:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:29:38] Speaker G: Unless you're the lead dog, the view doesn't change.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: Oh, that is. That is. That's. That is so perceptive. That's perceptive.
[00:29:47] Speaker G: It's true, though.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: Okay, here's. Here's another date. Now, this is. Let's see, the Italian operation. Opera star Enrico Caruso. Enrico made his American debut at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City in Rigoletto.
Rigoletto. Caruso's popularity was crucial in transforming the phonograph. It's interesting that this would be kind of a time when we're Talking about the first jukebox, it was crucial in transforming the phonograph from a novelty to a medium for home entertainment. He was the first artist to have a million selling record, which was Vesti La Juba from Pollacci. Okay, let's see if there's anything other additional information I have that would pin it down for you. Now, that's a monitor. First, his debut, Enrico Caruso's debut at the Met in Rigoletto.
What year was that anyway?
Jack Hart, 1904. 19:04. And John, how about 19:10? 19:10. Mike, what do you think?
[00:31:01] Speaker D: I think, let's see, what was the name of the show that he debuted?
[00:31:10] Speaker B: Rigoletto.
[00:31:12] Speaker F: Oh.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: From which he had a hit record. Bestie laju. Right, right.
[00:31:18] Speaker D: I remember this kind of.
[00:31:19] Speaker E: That's the clown, right? Rigoletto.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: Pagliatchi, is the clown 19?
A little older, a little younger than.
[00:31:28] Speaker D: What these guys said. I'm going to say 1939.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: 1939. 39. 1939. You see? Oh, okay. Fred, what do you. What year would you say that happened?
[00:31:44] Speaker F: 1940.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: 1940. Well, if we keep going this way, the. By the time we get to Joan, she'll say it was about two weeks ago.
[00:31:56] Speaker G: Well, actually, Norman, I kind of figured as I was dying on the vine and it might be 1932.
[00:32:04] Speaker B: What kind of, what imitation was that?
[00:32:06] Speaker G: I was doing the toothless lady, you know.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Oh, I see, I see. Okay. What year do you think, Joe?
[00:32:12] Speaker G: 1932.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: Oh, it is 1932, you say?
[00:32:20] Speaker F: Okay. And Pat? Oh, 19. 1940. Was that a 40? That's 40. 1940.
[00:32:33] Speaker G: 1940.
[00:32:34] Speaker C: 1942.
[00:32:35] Speaker B: Is that what you said, Pat? 1942.
[00:32:42] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Mary Ann, what do you think?
[00:32:45] Speaker C: I was thinking it was 1924 because I'm convinced something happened that year.
[00:32:53] Speaker B: And if it wasn't that, it was something else. Maybe. Yeah, yeah, maybe the.
Maybe the invasion of Poland by the Nazi army. Or maybe it was the year that Theodore Roosevelt charged up San Juan Hill. Or maybe the Civil War began with the firing on Fort Sumter. Or maybe the US Constitution was ratified.
[00:33:19] Speaker C: In other words, I'm wrong.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: In other words, you really are wrong. Enrico Caruso made his debut at the Met in Arrigoleto in 19:3. Oh, my God. And Jack Hawks at 19:4.
Good call.
[00:33:37] Speaker E: Good call.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: Well, you see, I know that he was in the midst of the big earthquake, San Francisco earthquake in 1905. Jack was pretty smart.
[00:33:49] Speaker C: I thought that was in 1906.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Well, at least he was there by then.
[00:33:57] Speaker G: Jack, is this. That you have. You have no day job, so you can spend the time kind of just boning up on these things.
[00:34:04] Speaker B: I sit at home just pouring through reference books, just gathering.
[00:34:09] Speaker G: I'm truly impressed.
[00:34:11] Speaker E: You have to get up pretty late in the evening to be smarter than Jack Hart.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: Sure. Well, one of the conditions for getting this job was, you know, do you have trouble sleeping? As a matter of fact. And I said yes, otherwise I wouldn't have gotten it.
[00:34:25] Speaker G: Oh, that's interesting.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: Okay, you all had your fun. Now, actually, Jack is again, he's got three correct answers. He walks away with this.
Does well. Yeah, he really does. Mike. Mike has got two correct answers, and so he did well also. And we have one apiece from John, Pat and Joan and Marianne.
Yeah, that's.
[00:34:59] Speaker E: That.
[00:34:59] Speaker B: That's right. You and Fred actually did strike out. So the only. Are you married, Fred, I think, or. No.
Are you? Because Marianne says she's 40. Are you around that age?
[00:35:13] Speaker C: 55.
[00:35:13] Speaker B: 55. Is that too old for you, Marianne?
[00:35:15] Speaker C: Oh, no. I have a friend who's 59, and he still lusts after me.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: No, but you lust after him.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Oh, I think he's fantastic.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: No, Kenny. So 55 would not be a deterrent to you, then?
[00:35:29] Speaker F: The youngest.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: What do you think, Fred? Now, what do you think? Does Marianne sound like the kind of person you'd like to get to know better?
[00:35:36] Speaker C: Do you like people who lose that parlor gamer?
[00:35:42] Speaker B: What did you say, Fred?
[00:35:43] Speaker F: A good sense of humor.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: Yes. And you sound like you have a good sense of humor, too. And you're kind of a, you know, kind of a talky guy.
[00:35:52] Speaker C: I have to say that I played at. Played the birthday game many, many times, and I won the first time I was on, and I will, for the day I die, believe that you people took a dive just so I could win.
It's true. Jack Clark. You remember Jack?
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Sure. Absolutely. Yeah, we set people up.
[00:36:18] Speaker C: You were told this is radio station.
[00:36:25] Speaker D: Conspiracy theory.
[00:36:26] Speaker B: Hey, Norm. Yeah. Yeah.
[00:36:27] Speaker E: I was thinking, Marianne, are you working now? Currently employed.
[00:36:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:36:32] Speaker E: I was thinking, you know, something happens with your job, that maybe you could apply at Disney World.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: Oh, with Citibank, right.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:43] Speaker E: You would make a terrific small character.
[00:36:46] Speaker C: Thank you. I just love all these compliments. Norm. I sent you a picture of me.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: You didn't.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: Yes, I did.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: When did you do that? I don't remember that.
[00:36:59] Speaker C: Yes, because you had commented that how fit a person I looked.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I wanted to see you now. When did you do that?
[00:37:08] Speaker C: About nine, ten months ago.
[00:37:11] Speaker G: I better open that. Male Norm.
[00:37:16] Speaker C: I'M sitting there with an older man who's my godfather.
[00:37:21] Speaker G: That's what they all say.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. That's right.
[00:37:25] Speaker C: Men can say that to my niece.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: They can say that to your niece?
[00:37:30] Speaker C: No, men always say, this is my niece.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: Oh, I see.
[00:37:34] Speaker C: So I can say it's my godfather.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: You live kind of a. Of a. Kind of that kind of a life you think is your life. Totally immoral and sinful.
[00:37:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
But the truth. I am one of the most friendly people.
[00:37:52] Speaker B: One of the most friendliest.
[00:37:53] Speaker C: Most friendliest people. I'm not shy, but my favorite person is myself. I would rather be alone than with any. Anyone else. I build walls between me and other people.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: Okay, Mariana.
[00:38:08] Speaker C: I'm just saying that on the outside, I look very, you know, outgoing, but.
[00:38:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like she's lying on the psychiatrist couch right now.
[00:38:22] Speaker C: All right.
[00:38:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Mar. We have one more question for Mar.
[00:38:28] Speaker C: What?
[00:38:28] Speaker F: Where's.
[00:38:29] Speaker D: Where's the picture that you were supposed to send me a view?
[00:38:32] Speaker C: Ah, you didn't say that. I'll have to scratch one up.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: Okay, and what. What, what?
What Mike would like was be a picture of you, maybe in a loose fitting, heavy overcoat and stuff. He does nothing provocative. Okay.
[00:38:50] Speaker C: How about a couple bandaids?
[00:38:54] Speaker B: Okay. Hey, listen, I want to thank all of you. Be quiet. All of you, just be quiet. I'm trying to get rid of you. Now. This is just the point where I brush you off, where you've become history.
[00:39:05] Speaker F: This movie just wasted an hour of my life.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Oh, no, this isn't worth anything. Even if you had won, you'd get nothing that amounted to anything. Fred. Hey, Fred. Thanks a lot for playing the game. I appreciate you being on.
See, now who said he didn't have a sense of humor?
[00:39:25] Speaker G: Why did he wait till the end?
[00:39:27] Speaker B: Yeah, well, he just wanted to spring yard in case you with it, you know? So you said slimed. You know, he had a sense of humor. Like, in case we hadn't picked up on it already. Yeah. And Marianne, thank you all very much.
[00:39:42] Speaker C: And I guess I have to wait a month to take this abuse again, huh?
[00:39:46] Speaker B: I think so.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: Everybody have a good holiday.
[00:39:50] Speaker E: You too, Mary Ann.
[00:39:51] Speaker D: Happy Thanksgiving.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: I don't think that's a real person. I think somebody wound up some little doll, and I think that's what's coming out there.
[00:40:00] Speaker G: You better find that picture.
[00:40:03] Speaker B: They're probably putting little answer tapes like, you know, that say different things. Hello. How are. I'm feeling flat. My diapers are wet. Could you change me, please? And all like that. Anyway, Joan, thanks a lot.
[00:40:16] Speaker G: Well, thank you, Norm. It's been real.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: Sort of real. Depends on your view of reality. And Pat, I appreciate you coming on with us. Thanks a lot.
[00:40:27] Speaker F: Hey, thank you, sir.
[00:40:28] Speaker B: Bye bye. And thank you. Thank you very much, John.
[00:40:30] Speaker E: Yeah, thank you.
[00:40:32] Speaker B: Okay. And also you, Mike.
[00:40:34] Speaker D: Always a pleasure.
[00:40:35] Speaker B: We've got Jack two. Thanks. Well, thank you.
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[00:42:13] Speaker B: That, it was something else maybe.
[00:42:15] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
