Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: This intro will be short and sweet. We have a dumb birthday game from September 19, 1994, which I have titled Speak Softly and Carry a Big radio. The players, denise from Fairmont, West Virginia, Chuck & Webster, Marjorie in Pelham, New Hampshire. Keith Shields, producing and playing in studio. And Ken Newman from Traffic. The birthdays Adam West, Twiggy, Jeremy Irons, Joan London, Duke Snyder, Paul Williams, Clifton Daniels and Mike Royko. Or David McCallum. Which one will they choose?
Stay tuned.
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Exciting, isn't it? Episode 253. Speak softly and carry a big radio gently whispers its way to your ears in three, two and one.
[00:01:35] Speaker B: Hello, Denise.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: Hello.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: My goodness.
[00:01:38] Speaker C: How are you?
[00:01:40] Speaker B: I'm just fine. How are you?
[00:01:42] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Why don't I just get rid of everybody else and we'll just talk to each other?
Yeah, we. Where? Where in West Virginia are you?
[00:01:50] Speaker C: Fairmont.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Fairmont, West Virginia.
[00:01:53] Speaker C: Fairmont, West Virginia.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: Yeah. We get a fair amount of mail and calls from Fairmont, West Virginia, so apparently we come in fairly well down there. What now? What do you do? You sound like a student.
[00:02:03] Speaker C: No, I'm a housewife.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: Housewife.
[00:02:06] Speaker C: Housewife.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: Are you talking softly because you don't want to wake your husband? Is that the idea of what you do?
[00:02:11] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe. No, that's just what I am.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: Okay. Is he good?
No, that's. Anything that you are is okay with me. Sure, that's fine. Is he sleeping in an adjacent room or something like that?
[00:02:25] Speaker C: No.
[00:02:26] Speaker B: Is he sleeping in a.
[00:02:27] Speaker C: He's out of the house.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: He's not with you?
[00:02:30] Speaker C: No, he's here.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: Oh, he is there. I see. Is he going to help you guess the ages of these people?
[00:02:35] Speaker C: No, he. He don't have nothing in it.
Nothing in it?
[00:02:41] Speaker B: Nothing in it.
Do you not get along well with him? Is that. Is there a problem?
[00:02:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I get along with him, but I get a guest.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: You have A guest.
[00:02:53] Speaker C: I get a guest.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: Oh, I see. I see. He won't help you because you want to do it on your own, right? Okay, I'll talk softly too, because I wouldn't want to wake anybody there.
[00:03:04] Speaker C: That's okay. Wake someone.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: Okay.
Here is. Here's Chuck, who's in the town of Webster, Massachusetts. Chuck, it's nice to have you with us.
[00:03:14] Speaker D: I know. Pleasure to be with you.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: Well, let's say I talked. Did I talk with you yesterday?
[00:03:19] Speaker D: You talked with a member of the family? Probably. The voice is close. What do you think about those Patriots?
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Hey, today was a pretty good game.
Or Sunday was, anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Bledsoe. I love that name, don't you? Drew Bledsoe. If you were to make up a name, you'd never come close to a name like that. A Drew Bledsoe.
That's sort of heavy baggage to be carrying around. But he's been doing just great again. Another better than 300 yard day for him.
[00:03:52] Speaker D: Well, I hope this is a sign of times to come here, you know.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: I hope so too. We have also Marjorie, who's up in New Hampshire, who's playing the game with us. Hi, Marjorie.
[00:04:04] Speaker C: Hi, Norm.
You know.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Hi, Marjorie.
[00:04:08] Speaker C: My town of Pelham is 250 years old next year and they're printing a calendar.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: How old is it? 250 years old.
[00:04:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Next year we're celebrating now.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: What are you going to do to celebrate? Because the town I live in turned 250.
Middleton. That's right, Massachusetts. We turned 250 in 1978 and we had a whole year long series of events to celebrate the 250th birthday.
[00:04:38] Speaker C: Is that one that took a new sidewalk?
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Are you trying. Are you being sarcastic?
You are being sarcastic.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: Marjorie, you made fun of our town hall.
I can make fun of your sidewalk.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: No, that's true. Actually. Actually the sidewalks were put in after that and they still don't cover the whole town. That's just a small section in the downtown area.
[00:05:01] Speaker C: Middleton is beautiful.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: It is. It's kind of nice. Yeah, it's kind of. The only problem is people from out of town keep traveling through it and clogging up our roads and we want to do something about putting a fence around it. So they don't do that.
[00:05:16] Speaker C: They do. They use one for a thing.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Okay, we have. We also have. And I'll introduce you to them, Keith Shields.
What's that? Please.
[00:05:25] Speaker C: You're restrained.
[00:05:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I don't know why I'm doing that. There's Nobody. There's nobody here to wake up. Yeah, because the management is not even here. I mean, normally I talk softly so I don't wake them up.
[00:05:37] Speaker C: Guys from the traffic network.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on a second.
[00:05:44] Speaker C: Loud, aren't they?
[00:05:45] Speaker B: What's that, please?
[00:05:46] Speaker C: They're kind of loud, aren't they?
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Loud, yeah.
Do you find them. You find them interesting?
[00:05:53] Speaker C: Oh, very.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: The traffic guys. Would you like to meet any of them and go on a date with them?
[00:05:57] Speaker C: I would love to.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Would you really?
[00:05:59] Speaker C: Oh, very much.
[00:06:00] Speaker B: Okay, let me. Let me introduce you to Keith Shields. First, he's a producer, and then we'll go to Ken and I'll introduce you to him. Okay. Because he's. He's one of the traffic guys.
And. But. But anyway.
[00:06:11] Speaker C: Sweet voice.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: Yes, he does have a sweet voice. So does Keith Shields, our producer.
[00:06:16] Speaker E: I have a pretty voice.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: He's a pretty voice with an edge of. With an edge of sensuality.
[00:06:24] Speaker C: Yeah, he does.
[00:06:25] Speaker E: I'm a 90s guy.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm a 90s guy, too. Probably 1890s.
Okay, I'm going to introduce you to Ken Newman.
Is there a reason that you have a thing on traffic guys?
[00:06:38] Speaker C: I don't know. They just felt that I'm really cute to me.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: Oh. I thought it may be the way they said traffic is bumper to bumper, heading north.
[00:06:47] Speaker C: The way they say.
The way they say.
I don't know. It's about traffic.
[00:06:54] Speaker E: Gets her revved up.
[00:06:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. This is Ken. Ken, this is.
This is Marjorie. She's already crazy about you.
Hi. Nice to meet you.
Traffic, traffic, traffic.
[00:07:05] Speaker C: You have the wrong woman.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: This is not Marjorie.
This is Marjorie.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: Wrong already.
[00:07:12] Speaker E: Denise.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Oh, this is Denise. Who's saying all this?
Marjorie, where are you?
[00:07:18] Speaker C: I'm here, but she interrupted.
[00:07:23] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was. I thought that was you.
[00:07:25] Speaker C: No.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: Oh, we're getting off to a really stupid start, aren't we?
[00:07:29] Speaker C: Oh, don't say that, Mom. Not tonight.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: Okay?
That's right. Marjorie is from Pelham, New Hampshire, which is celebrating its 250th anniversary next year. And Denise is sleeping with her husband in who's in the next room or something.
Oh, in West Virginia. I know that. Yes.
And my name is Henry Fonda. I've lost track of everything here.
Okay, let's. We'll play the game because I don't know what else to do.
What's that?
[00:08:01] Speaker C: Please introduce everyone else.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: Okay. You gonna talk throughout this whole thing? Are you?
[00:08:06] Speaker C: No.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: Okay.
Okay. Today is the birthday of Adam West. You know, who that is?
He's one of my favorite Batman.
[00:08:14] Speaker E: Favorite actors?
[00:08:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he was born in the Walla Walla. Washington played Batman, as you said on tv after the show was canceled. The only job that he could get was being shot out of a cannon in a circus in the film the New Age.
The.
Oh, he was in a film called the New Age. That's the whole sentence. The superhero Batman was inspired by a Leonardo da Vinci painting. Where'd that come from? Wow, I didn't know that.
Had no idea about that. Son of a gun.
Okay, we'll start with you, Denise. How old do you think Adam west is? Adam West, The Batman? Yeah. Big, good looking guy, well built.
Played Batman for.
That was one of my favorite programs. I thought it was done very well.
[00:09:07] Speaker C: I'd say 58.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: You'll say 58. Okay. And I'll mark that down. 58. And I'll say it softly because we don't want to wake anybody.
[00:09:19] Speaker C: Right.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: Okay, Chuck.
[00:09:22] Speaker C: Okay. You can like someone if you want.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: Chuck, what do you think? How old do you think Batman is?
[00:09:29] Speaker D: I like 54. 54.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Okay. And Marjorie?
[00:09:34] Speaker C: 55.
[00:09:35] Speaker B: And what do you think, Keith?
[00:09:37] Speaker E: He's the bat age of 60.
[00:09:40] Speaker B: A bat age of 60. Okay. And Ken?
[00:09:44] Speaker E: I think he just looks old. I think he's actually only about 53.
[00:09:49] Speaker B: Okay. Now actually, Ken, he not only looks old, but he really is. He's 66.
[00:09:56] Speaker E: Is he really?
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I wouldn't have believed that either, but he is. Let me check that again. I'm 66 years old. I'm double checking a couple of sources now.
[00:10:05] Speaker C: When?
[00:10:06] Speaker B: Hold on a minute. I'm checking another Source. No, he's 66, which means that I won. No, you didn't win.
No, because Keith said 60, so he was the closest. Really?
You said 58.
[00:10:20] Speaker C: Yeah, I did.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So Keith. Keith wins the first round. How about Twiggy? Remember Twiggy?
[00:10:26] Speaker C: I thought he said Leslie.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: Her name was. She was born Leslie Hornby in London, England. Fashion Trendsetter in the 1960s with a mini skirt. Much in demand as a model. She weighed 92 pounds and her figure was 31. 23. 31.
Yeah.
[00:10:46] Speaker C: She must have been very thin.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: I guess maybe that's why they called her Twiggy.
[00:10:52] Speaker E: Unless she was about three foot.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. You'd probably be a little portly. You have to about it 6 inches tall and that would have fit better.
[00:11:02] Speaker C: She was more like olive oil.
[00:11:04] Speaker B: That's true. She earned $2 million in royalties from her Twiggy doll.
And let Me see, I Lost my Place and Yardley Cosmetics. She was in films like the Boyf and Madame Suzatska. In 1991, she appeared in the TV series The Princesses or the Prince. Yeah, the Princesses, which I never heard of. She's now using the name of Lawson. I guess she's Twiggy Lawson or something like that. We'll start with you, Ken. How old do you think Twiggy is today?
[00:11:41] Speaker E: Let's see, she was a model in the 60s.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: Yes, she was.
[00:11:48] Speaker E: Let me see here.
[00:11:49] Speaker B: And she was in.
In 1991, she appeared in these TV series, the Princesses. Did you. Did you ever see that?
[00:11:58] Speaker E: I never.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: Ken was in Traffic Guy.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: I never even heard of it. Ken is the traffic guy.
[00:12:02] Speaker E: Yeah, one of them traffic guys. That's me.
Let's see here.
[00:12:07] Speaker B: Twiggy. Twiggy.
[00:12:08] Speaker E: Twiggy.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: I don't know. 50. 50. Okay. And Keith, that sounds.
[00:12:13] Speaker E: That sounds close to being. I'd say 53.
[00:12:16] Speaker B: 53. Okay. And Marjorie, what do you think?
[00:12:20] Speaker C: Oh, I'll try 45.
[00:12:22] Speaker B: We'll try 45. Okay. And what do you. What would you try, Chuck?
[00:12:27] Speaker D: About 48.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: All right, and Denise?
[00:12:30] Speaker C: I'll say 49.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: 49. Okay. Actually, Marjorie, hit it right on the button.
She is 45.
[00:12:39] Speaker C: Very great.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: Wow. Yeah.
[00:12:41] Speaker E: So she was just. Just a youngin when she was doing that. She was like 8 when she was like a model.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: That's why she had those dimensions. She probably was only about 8 inches tall.
How about the Jeremy Irons? You know, the actor Jeremy Irons?
Let's see. He.
From England. He. His films include Damage and Dead Ringers.
And he won best actor Oscar for Reversal of Fortune where he played. What was the name of the guy down in Rhode island who was charged with murdering his wife?
And Alan Dershowitz got on the case and he was found not guilty.
Who am I thinking about?
[00:13:26] Speaker E: No clue.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: O.J. no, no, no, no. The Amy Fisher.
[00:13:32] Speaker D: No.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: Tall guy with a. A kind of a German name, I think.
[00:13:38] Speaker E: Oh, oh, I know who you're talking.
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:41] Speaker C: She didn't die. She was.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: No.
[00:13:44] Speaker E: And he supposedly poisoned her. Was it.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: Well, yeah. Or he withheld treatment so that she eventually died. She. She was in a coma for a long period of time.
[00:13:54] Speaker E: Von Something.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: Von something, yes.
Klaus Von Bueller. Yes.
Why could we not think of his name? Exactly right. Claus Van Bulow. That's that.
They made the movie of that. And Jeremy Irons played the part of Klaus Van Bureau.
Van Bureau. Did I say that? You know who I mean. Anyway, let's start with you, Chuck. How old do you think Jeremy Irons is?
[00:14:20] Speaker D: Oh, 56.
[00:14:22] Speaker B: 56.
Okay.
[00:14:24] Speaker E: And Keith, we're gonna go to the crowd of. Of 1. 57.
[00:14:29] Speaker B: 57. Okay. And Denise?
[00:14:37] Speaker C: 53.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: 53. I'll write that softly so that the scratching of the pen on paper doesn't wake up anything.
[00:14:47] Speaker C: Why do you have to be so soft?
[00:14:49] Speaker B: What's that, please?
[00:14:50] Speaker C: Why do you have to be so soft?
[00:14:52] Speaker B: So sad, so. So hot.
Oh, I see. No, I didn't think I was being that.
[00:14:58] Speaker E: How do you know if you soft.
[00:15:02] Speaker B: Wait a minute. Being soft. Did you use the word soft?
[00:15:05] Speaker C: Oh, you're soft.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: Soft, soft. S O F T. Yeah.
Now, what do you mean by that? No, I hope you don't mean what I think you mean.
What's that?
[00:15:16] Speaker C: Just for me. Are you being soft for me?
[00:15:19] Speaker B: Soft for you? I don't.
How do you mean soft for you?
[00:15:24] Speaker C: Soft, like Soft, like in quiet, like.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Oh, I see. The way I'm talking mean, that kind of soft. Oh, you had me frightened for a minute there. I see.
I don't know, because you're talking soft yourself and you're being very romantic and I was trying to respond. Yes, I was trying to respond.
[00:15:42] Speaker C: Can I not be that way?
[00:15:43] Speaker B: No, that's okay.
[00:15:45] Speaker E: I have some candles lit over here in the studio just for the.
[00:15:48] Speaker C: Ya.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: I do, too. I have a. A little gypsy trio with a violinist coming in soon.
Denise, have you had any. Had anything to drink tonight?
[00:15:59] Speaker C: Oh, no.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: Okay.
Oh, no, I wish I would have.
Well, I'll be right up. Well, I can't if you're in West Virginia. No, that's not too easy.
Yeah.
[00:16:12] Speaker E: Got a commute.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: A lot of traffic.
[00:16:16] Speaker E: Anyone knows about traffic.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: That's right. We'll check with Canada, see what the traffic is like between here and West Virginia.
Marjorie, what do you think? How old is Jeremy Irons?
[00:16:24] Speaker C: Oh, I'll try to iron out another winner.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: Oh, geez.
[00:16:28] Speaker C: 43.
[00:16:29] Speaker B: 43.
[00:16:30] Speaker C: Oh, so probably winner.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: So you see, my family was in the iron and steel business. My mother ironed and my father was stealing.
Ken, what do you say?
[00:16:44] Speaker E: 58.
[00:16:45] Speaker B: 58. Okay, again, the magic moment is arriving, everybody, when I tell you the actual age. So you know who came the closest? Jeremy Irons actually is only 46.
A lot younger than. Than he looks or at least looked in that movie Way off.
[00:17:02] Speaker E: Tonight I am way off.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: Yeah, so the closest actually was Marjorie, who said 43.
Oh, Marjorie.
[00:17:10] Speaker C: Yeah, Marjorie.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: Marjorie. Yeah. She's got two.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: She's leading on another one.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: No, you're Leading. Yeah, that's right. And Keith has one.
And we'll go to Joan London.
Joan London from Good Morning America?
She joined Good Morning America in 1980.
[00:17:29] Speaker E: She was on a parent show that was on the Lifetime network.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. She used to do that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, she was. She's from Sacramento, California, which doesn't help you identify her age at all.
And what was the name of the guy who was on the Good Morning America? He was the host, and she was his sidekick, and then she kind of took over and he quit.
Hartman, maybe.
Maybe I was big, tall guy.
Anyway, Joan London.
Let me start with you, Keith. How old do you think Joan London is?
[00:18:08] Speaker E: Oh, we're gonna try 10. 46.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: 46. Okay.
Denise, what do you say?
[00:18:19] Speaker C: Joan London.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: Joan London. She's.
[00:18:24] Speaker C: I would say 42.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Say 42. Okay.
[00:18:28] Speaker E: She says that with some English.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: I was gonna say like a Harold Rome and Jackie.
Okay. Jackie Paris.
[00:18:40] Speaker C: Not much older than me.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: Who's not much older than you?
[00:18:44] Speaker C: John London.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: John London. Are you. Are you about 42 also?
[00:18:49] Speaker C: No, I'm about a little bit old. Younger than that.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: Younger than that. You're younger than that?
[00:18:55] Speaker C: Younger than that?
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Like 38? Like something like that?
[00:18:58] Speaker C: Yeah, about maybe 10 years younger than that.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: You're in your 20s?
[00:19:03] Speaker C: No, I'm in my 30s.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: Oh, 30. I see, 32 then.
[00:19:08] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:08] Speaker B: Is that how old you are?
[00:19:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: I see. Okay.
I said. Okay. I'll talk softly. You would have won if it was cute.
[00:19:16] Speaker D: Norm.
[00:19:16] Speaker C: I love you.
[00:19:17] Speaker B: Do you really?
[00:19:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I do.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Well, I love to adopt you as my granddaughter.
[00:19:23] Speaker C: I'll be all right.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: Okay.
Ken, how old do you think Joan London is?
[00:19:30] Speaker E: Oh, let's see. Let me think here.
It's coming to me.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: 45.
Wasn't she in some. A beauty contest where she. She wasn't Miss America. She was Miss Somebody, wasn't she? Or she was Miss America one time.
[00:19:44] Speaker E: Nobody knows. She was Miss Ready Whip.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: Miss Ready Whip. I say, Chuck, what do you say?
[00:19:52] Speaker D: Well, I call it my lottery number. 44.
[00:19:56] Speaker B: Okay.
And Marjorie, what do you say?
[00:20:00] Speaker C: Well, I thought 39.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: You thought 30? 39. Are you just, you know, saying 39 in order for me to go through this pitiful, you know, you see?
Imitation.
[00:20:17] Speaker C: I love to hear you do it.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: Oh, cut that out.
Okay. So much for that. Anyway, she's actually 44, which is exactly what Chuck said.
Yeah, Chuck said 44. And, Ken, you were very close with 45, and Keith with 46. You were all very close.
[00:20:35] Speaker E: It didn't win the lottery.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: But you were just so close.
[00:20:44] Speaker D: See, now, if I could have her a number, I'd have it made.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: If you could have what?
[00:20:47] Speaker D: If I could have her number, I'd have it made.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: You want. Which one do you want, Denise? Or do you want Marjorie? You want both of them?
[00:20:53] Speaker D: All of them?
[00:20:56] Speaker B: London's. Okay.
Duke Snyder, baseball player. Let me. Let me see. Give you something. Yeah. He was born Edwin Snyder. They called him Duke Snyder.
He was a. He played the outfield for the Brooklyn Dodgers when, obviously, when the Dodgers were still in Brooklyn. And he was a member of that team, along with, I guess, Pee Wee Reese and all those great Dodgers players were with the team at that time.
And.
Let's see, Marjorie, let me ask you first. How old is Duke Snyder? Yeah.
[00:21:29] Speaker C: Oh, Lord, 61.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: 61?
[00:21:34] Speaker C: Oh, that's too old.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: Well, I'll tell you in a little bit. See, we have to get the other guesses in first.
I can't tip the age to you right just yet because it would be cheating.
[00:21:46] Speaker C: Oh, no, I don't want you to.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: We mustn't cheat on this game because this game has a reputation for being totally honest and wonderful.
[00:21:55] Speaker C: I was just trying real hard to get a tacky prize.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. I forgot to tell you. The person who comes the closest to the ages gets the most most correct answers does win a tacky, tasteless, worthless prize. That's right. Something that we don't want you to return to us in case you're not totally satisfied, because we don't want it either. Okay. And how about you, Chuck? What do you think? Duke Schneider.
[00:22:21] Speaker D: 72. Norman.
[00:22:22] Speaker B: 72? You called me Norman. Oh, no, no. Oh, I thought you called me Norman. Cause that's okay. That was my birth name. Oh. My relatives call me that. So. That's just so nice.
Anyway.
[00:22:37] Speaker C: Oh, Nora, you're so cute.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: Ken, what do you say?
[00:22:44] Speaker E: I'll go with a happy medium there. How about 69?
[00:22:48] Speaker B: 69. Okay. And Keith?
[00:22:51] Speaker E: 64.
[00:22:52] Speaker B: Keith says 64. And what do you say?
Besides too much denise, I would say.
[00:23:03] Speaker C: 60.
[00:23:04] Speaker B: 60.
[00:23:06] Speaker C: Right.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: Okay.
Dukes and I are actually 68, which means that Ken.
Who said 69? Sorry, Ken.
[00:23:15] Speaker E: Yeah, right on the notes.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Came well within a year. Very close.
Okay, so we have Marjorie leading, still with two. And Keith, Ken and Chuck all have one apiece.
Isn't that exciting?
[00:23:30] Speaker C: Oh, so exciting. I gotta beat Marjorie.
[00:23:34] Speaker B: Okay, how about Paul Williams? You know, the composer? Little guy, little short guy from Omaha, Nebraska. He's written many songs. Plus, well, he's a singer. And composer, mostly. And he's. He's written themes for TV and movies, including the Love Boat theme. He wrote that.
That's great.
[00:23:55] Speaker E: Oh, he was on Airplane, too, was he? He sang outside of the. The Psycho ward.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Remember that?
[00:24:04] Speaker D: He did indeed.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Okay.
And he wrote songs for the Carpenters. He won an Oscar for Evergreen in 1976. Okay, so that gives you a little idea of how far back he goes. 1976, Paul Williams. Here's the little shortcut.
[00:24:20] Speaker E: He had many Christmas specials, too, didn't he? Didn't he do a lot of Christmas specials on tv?
[00:24:25] Speaker B: I don't know. Do you know any of you?
[00:24:28] Speaker E: I think Paul Williams Christmas specials rings a bell.
[00:24:31] Speaker C: He's great. He's really great. He did.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Okay, Denise, let me start with you. How old do you think Paul Williams is?
[00:24:38] Speaker C: Paul Williams? I would say 75.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: 75?
[00:24:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:24:46] Speaker D: And, Chuck, Paul Williams is a wonderful composer, but I wouldn't say too much about his singing. I mean, other people could sing his song, but he was fantastic. I don't know, 58.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: 58. You could say that about Bob Dylan, too. I never thought he sang very well.
And yet he wrote a lot of interesting things.
[00:25:07] Speaker D: Williams wrote beautiful music. Beautiful music.
He wasn't too much. As for a singer, I've seen him in his shows.
One show, I believe the whole thing was all his music.
Different people sang a few of his songs. Fantastic. But when he got down there to sing, I don't know.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: You said, hand over your sheet music to somebody else, fella.
[00:25:32] Speaker D: Yeah. It sounded better from different mouths.
[00:25:34] Speaker B: Okay. What do you say? Marjorie, how old do you think Paul Williams is?
[00:25:38] Speaker C: Oh, I'll try 67.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: 67, okay.
[00:25:43] Speaker C: And Keith, I like him. He's nice.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: He likes you, too.
[00:25:47] Speaker E: I'm going to orchestrate the answer of 62.
[00:25:51] Speaker B: Did all of you get that rich, rich humor? I'll orchestrate the answer of 62. All you get. They got that they're sick and bad.
[00:25:59] Speaker E: Just don't want it.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Ken, what do you think?
[00:26:05] Speaker E: Let's see, 68. Has that been said?
[00:26:09] Speaker B: It has not. But even if it had, that's okay.
[00:26:12] Speaker E: I'm just. Just curious, because if someone else said it, maybe it would have more of a chance of being correct.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: No, actually, Marjorie said 67, which came close, but nobody said 68.
Actually, Paul Williams on this day, September 19th, is 54.
So you guys, a lot of you have guessed way over his age.
[00:26:32] Speaker E: He looks old.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: He looks old. Little guy.
No. So the closest was Chuck.
Yeah, he said 58.
[00:26:41] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: Chuck now has. So there's a big tie here between Chuck and Marjorie.
[00:26:46] Speaker C: Oh, boy.
Yeah, we'll have to split the prizes.
[00:26:50] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah, send me what you don't like.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: And I'll send you what I don't like.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: Oh, really? You won't. Neither one of you will like anything because I sent out real junk.
Okay. Okay, so this. The excitement is really beginning to build now. I'm getting excited myself.
Clifton Daniel. Remember Clifton Daniel.
Let me tell you about Clifton Daniel.
He.
I'm sure he's retired now. There's a clue.
But he worked for the New York Times and he married the daughter of Harry Truman, Margaret Truman, remember?
[00:27:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Okay, let me see. I'm looking for some little biographical sketch of him here.
Yeah, Clifton Daniel.
One moment, please. The trouble is in your set anyway, that's Clifton Daniel. I can't find any more information about him than that.
[00:27:47] Speaker E: Okay, sounds like a fun guy.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: I'm sorry, this. This nobody was with the New York Times for a long time. Great newspaper guy and. Oh, here it is. He was born in Zebulon, North Carolina. Well, the only thing I have is he married Margaret Truman, daughter of the late President Harry S. Truman. I don't have anything more.
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Born in 71.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: He was born when?
[00:28:12] Speaker C: Is that what you said, 71.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: No, I didn't. I didn't. No, I said pretty young. No, I said he married Margaret Truman. I didn't.
[00:28:20] Speaker C: I thought you said he was born.
[00:28:23] Speaker B: No, I didn't say he was born in 71.
[00:28:25] Speaker D: No.
[00:28:26] Speaker E: That would give away the game, I think.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: No, because if he were born in 71, he'd be 20.
[00:28:30] Speaker C: I'm trying to figure it out.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: He'd be about 23 years old today, would he not? He would. And he's married to Margaret Truman.
Yeah. Who's got a hat that's older than that?
They use an old joke.
Okay, we're gonna start with you, Ken Born sometimes.
[00:28:47] Speaker C: Don't start with me.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: No, we're gonna start with Ken. Okay. Okay, Then we'll start with you some other time, so keep in touch.
Okay. Ken, how old do you think Clifton Daniel is?
[00:29:01] Speaker E: I don't even know where to start. Let's see. Married the daughter of.
[00:29:05] Speaker B: Daughter of Harry Truman. See the figure from that?
And Harry Truman was president from 1948. Well, no, earlier than that. He took Roosevelt 19. 1944. 45 to about 1952.
I don't know.
[00:29:29] Speaker E: How about 62?
[00:29:32] Speaker B: How about 62 says Ken. Okay, and what do you think, Keith?
[00:29:37] Speaker E: 74.
[00:29:38] Speaker B: 74.
Marjorie, 66.
Okay.
[00:29:43] Speaker D: And Chuck 78 now.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: 78. And Denise.
[00:29:51] Speaker C: 68.
[00:29:52] Speaker B: 68.
Okay. Actually he's 82.
So. Actually the closest is Chuck, who's now get bursting into the lead with three correct answers.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: I lost.
[00:30:07] Speaker D: Not yet, Mods. Not yet.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: Okay, I'll give you just one more and then we'll wrap this up. This is Mike Royko. You know Mike Royko, the newspaper columnist, works out of Chicago. I'm not sure whether it's the Chicago Sun Times or the Chicago Tribune, but he syndicated, so there are many newspapers in this area that carry his column.
[00:30:27] Speaker E: Does he work with Siskel or Ebert? That's how he do it now.
[00:30:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. He works with one or the other because they're both from those two newspapers.
No, I don't. He's. He's a columnist and he writes very well. He's fun to read. I don't know whether either the Boston papers carry him.
He's carried by the Lawrence Eagle Tribune. I know, in the syndicate.
Anyway, are you, any of you familiar with him?
[00:30:54] Speaker D: No, not at all.
[00:30:55] Speaker B: Not at all. Would you Rather guess David McCallum?
You know him either, huh? The I Spy show there he plays. It says he played Ilya.
[00:31:08] Speaker D: Yeah, Ilya Kuryakin.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah, in the man from U.N.C.L.E.
[00:31:11] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Do all the rest of you know him better?
[00:31:14] Speaker E: No, I've never heard of him before.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: David McCallum. I think you'd recognize him if you saw him.
[00:31:19] Speaker D: Blond headed guy, wasn't he?
[00:31:22] Speaker B: Yes, yeah.
Oh, him. He also has a little bit of an accent. He was born in Scotland.
[00:31:29] Speaker D: Yeah, I thought he was. I thought he was Russian.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: Well, with the name India Kuryakin, you would think so. Yeah, could be anything.
Well, no. Well, he could be anything. Yes, he could be, but with the name Idiot Kuryakin, it would hard for him to be like Belgian.
[00:31:50] Speaker E: Unless his mother was Belgian.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: Hold on a minute. No, his mother says right here. Definitely said.
Ken is going to say his mother might have been Belgian. But tell him he's wrong.
Okay. You would rather do McCallum or would you rather do Royko?
[00:32:06] Speaker C: Whatever you like, Norm.
[00:32:08] Speaker E: We'll do the one that Chuck knows, as long as he goes first.
[00:32:10] Speaker D: Oh, gee, thanks.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: Okay, let's do David McCallum.
[00:32:15] Speaker D: Do you want to go McCallum?
[00:32:16] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll go with McCallum and we'll ask you first, Chuck. Thank you. That was a great suggestion.
[00:32:22] Speaker D: Well, do you got anything on him like the man from U.N.C.L.E. that's an old, old show.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: I know. That's, that's all the only information I.
[00:32:29] Speaker D: Have in this, just the man from U.N.C.L.E.
[00:32:31] Speaker B: Yeah. That's the only one. Yeah. It says here, actor David McCallum, born in Scotland, played Ilya Kurakian in the TV series The man from U.N.C.L.E. that's the only information I have.
However, I'm expecting a shipment of new information to come in around 10 o' clock this morning.
Hold on, hold on a minute. Everybody be quiet.
[00:32:58] Speaker D: Okay? I'm. For a.
[00:32:58] Speaker B: Stuff. I thought. Yeah. I thought the delivery truck had come with the information from him, but I guess maybe not.
Yeah. Anyway, you be. You. We first, Chuck, what do you think?
[00:33:07] Speaker D: Okay. Geez, that show way off the air. Right on. There's not even repeat.
[00:33:13] Speaker B: Some of these are. I know they're tough, but. But as a result, if you come, if you. I know.
[00:33:18] Speaker D: How about 68?
[00:33:20] Speaker B: 68, yeah. You understand too that, you know, you. You're leading the pack.
So as a result, if you win, you win. Nothing special anyway, so there should be no pressure on you.
I would.
I don't know what that means anyway.
Yeah, whatever that means. Keith, what do you think?
[00:33:40] Speaker E: 68.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: I think he's. I think he feels that, you know, Chuck.
I don't know. This is a wild guess.
Ken, what do you think? Oh, he.
[00:33:51] Speaker E: I know, I know he's 68. He's got to be.
[00:33:53] Speaker B: He's going to be 68.
Okay, Marjorie, what do you say?
[00:34:00] Speaker C: Oh, I'll try 71.
[00:34:02] Speaker B: 71 says magic.
[00:34:04] Speaker C: Right.
[00:34:04] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:34:05] Speaker C: And Denise, I say 64.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: 64, okay. Actually, he's 60 years old today, I think. I think Denise has got that 64. Yeah, yeah. Denise said. Yeah. Denise breaks into the scoring column.
So. So our winner actually is still Chuck because he's got three and Marjorie's got two and one apiece from Keith and Ken and Denise. So everybody has scored, if you'll pardon the expression, at least once.
[00:34:39] Speaker C: Good evening.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: What's that, please?
[00:34:41] Speaker C: That's a good evening.
[00:34:43] Speaker B: A pretty even.
Yes, it is pretty even.
Okay, so if you'll. Hold on, Chuck.
Keith will take your name and address and you have won the dumb birthday game and you're in for a really nothing kind of a prize.
I actually. A lot of times these things are better than what I suggest they are. So it may be maybe some. Oh, you won't want it. No, I know. I'm saying that I want to thank you. Let's see who I thank first. Ken, I appreciate you being on. We. We'll listen to you in about 10, 15 minutes from now. Okay.
[00:35:18] Speaker E: I'll bring you the latest traffic update.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: From here and overseas. Exactly. Okay. Hey, thank you very much, Ken. Bye.
[00:35:26] Speaker D: Bye.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: Okay. And Marjorie?
[00:35:29] Speaker C: Yeah, Hi. I think I'll enjoy you even lower now.
[00:35:33] Speaker B: How's that?
[00:35:34] Speaker C: Well, I feel like I know you a little bit.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: We do. We have become very intimate during this past half hour or so.
[00:35:39] Speaker C: This was really great.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: Okay, I appreciate that. And best to you and to Pelham, New Hampshire.
[00:35:47] Speaker C: Right.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Okay. Take care, dear. Bye.
[00:35:49] Speaker D: Bye. All right.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Okay. And Chuck?
[00:35:52] Speaker D: Yeah?
[00:35:52] Speaker B: You're okay. Thank you. Oh, oh, that's right. Let me turn you over to Keith. So we take your name and address and I'll get the stuff out to you. Okay.
[00:36:00] Speaker D: Now, thank you very much and had a good time.
[00:36:02] Speaker B: Okay. We had a good time with you, too. Thanks a lot for calling. Appreciate that. And the lovely Denise.
[00:36:07] Speaker C: Thank you, Norm.
[00:36:09] Speaker A: Well, that was a rather efficient game. In keeping with that theme, let's close the vault and leave this world a little sillier than we found it. For talking softly, being okay with anything, you are. Drew Bledsoe, Old Middleton, Mass. And Old Pelham, N.H. dating the sweet voiced Traffic guys. Pretty sensually voiced producers. Batman, Human cannonballs. Leslie Hornby, writing softly the iron and steel business. Old hats keeping in touch. Ilya Kuryakin, the man from U.N.C.L.E. shipments of new information. Keith Shields, Ken Newman. And that old softie, Norm Nathan. I'm Tony Nesbitt.
[00:36:52] Speaker B: You see, my family was in the iron and steel business. My mother ironed and my father was stealing.
