Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Good day. Afternoon, evening to all. Norm Nathan Show's Vault of Salinis features a dumb birthday game from November 1, 194, which is titled Radio Bosco. Not only because it's mentioned here, but as an homage to one of my favorite drinks growing up. The players crystal Steve from Newton, Joanne and Waltham Maria from Nashville, New Hampshire. Mike Epstein producing and playing in studio. And the Forgotten jackhart Birthdays fernando Valenzuela.
Barbara Boston. Betsy Palmer. Bill Anderson. Larry Flint. Lyle Lovett. Gary Player. And a question from the history books. The play Harvey opened on Broadway in what year? Please check out the patreon link below where you can support the show. Episode 162 radio Bosco Mixes Its Way to Your Ears Now, this is an exciting moment.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Crystal will be with us. Crystal is from Arlington. Hello, Crystal.
[00:01:05] Speaker C: Hi, Norm. Good evening. How are you?
[00:01:06] Speaker B: I'm just fine, thank you. I love that name, Crystal.
[00:01:09] Speaker C: Oh, thank you.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that is really nice. That sounds almost like an exotic dancer.
[00:01:13] Speaker C: Well, I'm not.
[00:01:18] Speaker B: But what? I'm sorry. I was waiting for you to finish.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: I don't know. I guess I'm exotic, but I'm not an exotic dancer.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: You're exotic?
[00:01:26] Speaker C: Oh, sure.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. Now, I have this guy, Mike Epstein. Well, because Mike is married, so I don't know how we can fix up with him. What do you mean by exotic?
[00:01:36] Speaker C: Oh, I don't know.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: And just paint a weirdy, wonderful, lustful picture, if you would.
[00:01:42] Speaker C: Well, I dressed as, like, a beauty pageant winner tonight for a Halloween costume.
[00:01:47] Speaker D: Go on.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: You went to a Halloween party? You dressed as a beauty contest winner?
[00:01:53] Speaker C: Yes. Well, I had on a long purple velvet dress strapless with a slit up past my knee and a big, feather white boa and a crown.
[00:02:04] Speaker D: Very nice.
[00:02:05] Speaker B: That's nice.
You went with a date?
[00:02:09] Speaker C: No, with a bunch of friends.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Oh, I see. Okay. Was it fun?
[00:02:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a blast.
[00:02:13] Speaker E: Okay.
[00:02:13] Speaker B: Now, this is the first time you'll be playing the dumb birthday game with us, I guess. Is it or not?
[00:02:18] Speaker C: No, I played once a while back.
[00:02:20] Speaker B: Okay, well, that's well, we welcome you back.
[00:02:22] Speaker F: Thank you.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: We also have Steve, who is in Newton. Hi, Steve. We're glad to have you with us.
[00:02:27] Speaker G: How are you doing, Norm?
[00:02:28] Speaker B: I'm doing fine, thank you.
[00:02:29] Speaker G: You know, I was really looking forward to talking to you on the phone, but after hearing Crystal.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Well, you can still talk to us. That's okay. I'm still here. I understand you're not as much fun to talk to us, Crystal, but what the heck. Go ahead, know. Blabber through something.
[00:02:46] Speaker G: There you go.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: I don't mean to say it there. I'm just joking. You know that. Yes, I do. Okay, we have Joanne, who's in Waltham.
[00:02:53] Speaker E: Hi, Joan. Good morning, Norm.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Good morning, Joanne.
[00:02:56] Speaker E: My daughter is named Crystal, so I like the name.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Oh, that is nice.
[00:03:01] Speaker E: I answered your call when you asked for young, vivacious women yes, newbile, I.
[00:03:06] Speaker B: Believe the word came from that.
[00:03:09] Speaker E: Was it? Well, I figured one out of three ain't bad.
[00:03:13] Speaker B: I am a know. To tell you the truth, I don't even know what new bile means.
[00:03:19] Speaker E: Don't either.
[00:03:20] Speaker D: I didn't even hear you use that word. But I got seven calls from women saying I'm new bile.
[00:03:26] Speaker E: What does it mean, Mike?
[00:03:28] Speaker D: I don't know. I couldn't tell you.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: I'm looking that up. Right?
[00:03:31] Speaker E: This, I would like to think, sort of.
[00:03:34] Speaker D: Well, you are whatever new bile means, joanne, you are. It always been it. You will always be.
[00:03:42] Speaker E: Oh, thank you, Michael.
[00:03:43] Speaker B: I have new bile here. It's newbull.
Or, I guess, newbiele. It's not even newbile. Anyway, it's to veil oneself marriageable set of women with reference to their age or physical development. I like that part.
[00:04:04] Speaker E: See, I'd rather say vivacious.
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know what that means.
[00:04:09] Speaker E: I'm not quite young. I'm kind of middle aged and I'm sort of vivacious. And I am a woman. So I thought I fit the criteria.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: I would say okay.
I'd say okay. Let's see whether Maria fits into that category as well. Maria's up in New Hampshire. Hello. In Nashville, as a matter of fact. Hi, Maria.
[00:04:30] Speaker F: Hi. How are you doing?
[00:04:31] Speaker B: I'm doing just fine. It's nice to have you playing the game with her. I know you played before, I believe.
[00:04:36] Speaker F: Once before. And it was all sports questions and I had no idea about American sports.
[00:04:43] Speaker B: You played the music quiz then, you mean?
[00:04:45] Speaker F: No.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: Oh, you played the dumb birthday game but.
[00:04:51] Speaker F: Almost every single question was spark.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: It's about an American, and you're not familiar with the American.
[00:04:57] Speaker D: I think I remember that game, quite honestly.
[00:05:01] Speaker F: But anyway, let me just say this to you.
[00:05:08] Speaker G: Pardon me.
[00:05:08] Speaker E: What?
[00:05:09] Speaker F: Well, that's a lucky thing that you say in England on the first of the month.
[00:05:13] Speaker B: No, what do you say on the first of the month in England?
[00:05:18] Speaker F: White rabbits. White rabbits.
[00:05:19] Speaker C: White rabbits.
[00:05:20] Speaker D: White rabits white rabbits. Three times fast.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: Yeah. White rabbits.
[00:05:24] Speaker F: And you have to wish it to somebody who you know, you care about.
[00:05:30] Speaker B: Did that bring some good luck?
[00:05:31] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:05:32] Speaker B: I see. And you do that every month? The first of every single month, yeah.
[00:05:36] Speaker F: Three times.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Now I'm beginning to realize why England is a second rate power with foolish traditions like that. What kind of a thing? Okay, that's funny. Okay, here we go. Okay, Fernando.
[00:05:55] Speaker D: Well, I think we have to bring in Jack Hart.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. And, of course, we didn't even bring you in.
[00:06:01] Speaker D: I'm all over the place anyway.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: Okay. Mike Epstein is a producer here, and he's playing the and, of course, Jack Hart. How can we play the game without Jack Hart? It wouldn't be the game anymore. It would be nothing. It would be not only a dumb birthday and be dumb, stupid and boring without you, Jack.
[00:06:20] Speaker E: That's right.
[00:06:20] Speaker D: Hello.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: Maybe it'd be dumb, stupid and boring with you know, you startled me last time when we were talking about the traffic coming off the Tobin. I don't want to melt this thing.
Traffic coming off the Tobin Bridge. And the fact that I'd been caught terribly in that little tunnel that's supposed to alleviate going across three lanes of highway to get to the North Station's exit and stuff. Sure. And you said you can't see what the traffic is like in there. Does that mean we'll never have a report on any of the underground traffic?
[00:06:56] Speaker H: Never again will you know what traffic is like coming off the Tobin Bridge. Never again.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: And when they depress the Central Artery, that'll be a tunnel, too. We won't have any idea what's doing in there.
[00:07:07] Speaker H: You'll know exactly what's going on on Boyleston Street for the expressway. Forget about it.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Allegedly.
[00:07:12] Speaker D: Aren't there going to be, like, video cameras to keep track of what's going on down in these tunnels? I read that somewhere a couple of months ago.
[00:07:20] Speaker H: Yeah, that's kind of an interesting thing that I'm kind of curious as to how that whole thing is going to play out.
[00:07:27] Speaker B: Well, I guess what's the sense of worrying about it now? Because right now it's time for the dumb birthday game. And we clear ahead of serious, just.
[00:07:35] Speaker H: Quickly, Norm, the states that abut Arkansas by the Oklahoma, Missouri, Tennessee, Louisiana and Texas louisiana.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: So that is pretty far west mean for a Southern state you kind of think of as deep south.
It is very close to Midwest and all that, too.
[00:07:59] Speaker H: Yeah, kind of just below the Midwest.
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Missouri and all that. Thank you very much for looking that up. You're okay? You have a map, buddy? In case there's a traffic jam out, like in New Orleans or someplace, in.
[00:08:09] Speaker H: Case there's a traffic jam down Bourbon Street, we want to know how it's.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: Going to affect the motor. That's right. In case there's a bourbon parade on Bourbon Street. There's one right now. Okay. Here are some people born on November 1, and one of them is a name I love to say fernando Valenzuela or Fernando Valenzuela. I guess that sort of was kind of like what I just said before.
He's from Mexico? Los Angeles. Dodger pitcher?
[00:08:45] Speaker D: I don't think so, senor.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: He may not be. I don't know. It just says that here? Yeah, it says in 19 oh, no. I guess he's been released in 1991 after 141 victories in ten seasons. The Dodgers released Valenzuela in 1981. He was the first to win the Cy Young and Rookie of the Year honors in the same season. He also helped La win the World Series that year. He tried a comeback with Baltimore in 1993. The results of that right after this word. That sounds like a dragnet. Anyway, crystal, are you familiar with Fernando venezuela?
[00:09:28] Speaker C: Not really.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: Valenzuela oh, you're a hockey fan? Yeah. I don't know if we have a hockey hockey stuff here or not, but what do you think about Fernando Valenzuela?
[00:09:40] Speaker C: I'll say probably about 31.
[00:09:42] Speaker B: About 31, okay. And what do you think, Steve?
[00:09:46] Speaker G: I'm going to say 34. Norm?
[00:09:49] Speaker B: 34, okay. And Joanne, what do you think? New bile one? Yes, new bile one.
[00:09:57] Speaker D: Would you fit into the voluptuous category?
[00:10:00] Speaker E: Well, no.
[00:10:01] Speaker H: Hannie and Burton, perhaps?
[00:10:03] Speaker E: I would love to.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Well, perhaps we can get together with some dress designer we'll work on something like they do on those TV shows where they make you over. She's not going.
[00:10:17] Speaker E: Definitely.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: Well, I'm sure you don't need that. But they always have people going backstage and they're going to have their hair done and their makeup and everything, and a new dress will be designed for them and they'll be out in about.
[00:10:30] Speaker E: Two and a half minutes and look fabulous.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: Look fabulous, that's right. I have a feeling they've stopped a tape and these people are not coming out for about five days, probably after.
[00:10:43] Speaker E: They come back from the health spa.
[00:10:45] Speaker D: And then they never go back and have a follow up six months later to see, just to show you what these people turn out to be. And most of them probably lost the dress, gained 40 pounds, got acne, had all kinds of problems just from doing this.
[00:11:00] Speaker E: Their hair falls out before they leave, do they?
[00:11:04] Speaker H: Lacquer them from head to toe.
[00:11:09] Speaker E: All right. Serious. How about 32?
[00:11:12] Speaker B: I'm sorry, I don't remember what we were talking about.
That's right, Fernando Valenzuela. Okay, maria, what do you think?
[00:11:21] Speaker F: I think if he's a rookie, maybe 25.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: No, I didn't say he was a rookie.
[00:11:26] Speaker D: He was a rookie a number of years back.
[00:11:28] Speaker B: Yeah, he was a rookie. His first season was 1981, which was like, 13 years ago.
[00:11:35] Speaker F: Sorry, can I change my answer then?
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Of course you could change your answer.
[00:11:39] Speaker F: 37.
[00:11:40] Speaker B: 37. How a man aged.
Would you take Fernando Valenzuela back? Let's do his hair, put him in a nice new clean uniform, get him a makeover. Do a makeover for him. That's right. Mike, what do you think?
[00:11:58] Speaker D: Cleoque. Fernando Valenzuela. Tiny Trenti. Cinco anios boy.
[00:12:03] Speaker E: What?
[00:12:04] Speaker B: 3736-3535. Cinco, of course, is 536 years old.
[00:12:10] Speaker D: 35.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: I'm sorry? 35. I'm sorry, 35 years old. He's 35.
Jack Hart. What do you think, Fernando?
I think hold on, I just got a call from Mexico and they've just broken off relations. United States.
That's right. They avoided the NAFTA Treaty of the whole business. Not only that, but they've increased the power of their radio stations to 700 million watts and they're going to jam us in every other American station.
As a matter of fact, it was a story about let me see, you.
[00:13:00] Speaker D: Talking about the football story?
[00:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah. The National Football League. They're going to be Mexican stations broadcasting the game and then beaming them back to California, Texas and the border states like that, because, I don't know, these were in the Fox Network and apparently they don't have stations in some places along the way down there. So they're allowing the Mexican stations to beam them back. I guess they don't have to allow them. I mean, that's a separate country.
I believe it is. Hold on a minute. Let me see. Yeah, it says here, right in the notes, it's a separate country.
Anyway, Jack, what do you think? How old is the guy we're talking about?
[00:13:42] Speaker H: 36.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: 36. Okay. The answer is just handed me. He's 34 years old today. And Steve, who's in Newton this very moment, even as we speak, said 34.
[00:13:58] Speaker G: Do you know why I got that age right?
[00:14:00] Speaker B: I was going to ask you that.
Gave you good luck.
Chicken blue.
[00:14:11] Speaker H: Chicken blue chicken.
[00:14:11] Speaker E: No wonder.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: That's right, too. Well, you were only two years off.
Maria, who actually originated the saying white Rabbit was the farthest off of anybody, so I'm not quite sure. Well, not the farthest off, Crystal. Also, they were both about three years apart and that's how Jazz moved.
[00:14:31] Speaker E: Well, never I said 32, right?
[00:14:34] Speaker B: You said 32. That's correct. You're only two years off. Okay. Barbara Bosson. I've never been sure how to pronounce her name. B-O-S-S-O-N. She was on hill street blues as faye Ferrillo. She was the divorced wife of the not Carl Farillo. I forget his first name. He was the captain or the head.
[00:14:54] Speaker D: Of the Captain farillo or Farina.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: His name was he was he was the head of that division, Hill Street.
And also says she was the corrupt mayor in Cop Rock. I don't even know that movie. Do you know any of you know.
[00:15:13] Speaker H: That a television show that lasted about.
[00:15:16] Speaker D: Four and a half weeks? Four weeks?
[00:15:18] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:15:19] Speaker H: Every time they got to a certain point in the show, they'd break into a musical number?
[00:15:26] Speaker D: It was the embarrassment for the ABC people. Yes.
[00:15:30] Speaker B: My goodness. Her husband is the guy who produced Hill Street Blues in La. Law Botsko. Yeah. She's married. Yeah, she's the wife of Stephen Botchko.
[00:15:40] Speaker H: And I love it in milk.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: That's right. It's a nice, rich chocolatey flavor, isn't it? An arrival of Oval Team.
[00:15:52] Speaker H: Pictures of it at my house.
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Do they still make bosco? That was a very big thing, a big treat when I was a kid.
[00:15:59] Speaker F: Sure.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: I'm going to have to try some because my body is just wasting away. I want to just build it up.
Oh, stop that.
[00:16:10] Speaker E: Plus, it's a rival of Oval genes.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: That's right. So let's forget that.
Okay. Is there any rival to gold bond? They just got the market for themselves.
That's right. I mean, if you've got an itchy skin and you're sweating around the thighs and stuff, there's no place you can go except through Gold Bond.
[00:16:29] Speaker H: Cashmere bouquet.
[00:16:32] Speaker E: That's what I get.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: That's the soap of beautiful women.
[00:16:35] Speaker E: I get that.
[00:16:36] Speaker H: Is that right?
[00:16:37] Speaker B: Okay, now, these to be cameo, was it camille was the soap. The soap of beautiful women. I happen to know some women who used CAMA, and I want to tell you that was misleading advertising.
[00:16:55] Speaker G: Beauty cleanser, I think.
[00:16:57] Speaker H: One quarter cleansing cream.
[00:17:02] Speaker B: Anyway? Jack, how old do you think Barbara Bossen is? Is that the way you pronounce her?
Because you used to date her quite a lot, as I recall.
[00:17:13] Speaker H: Yes, indeed. I was like the older women.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: Okay, and how older is this woman?
[00:17:18] Speaker H: Oh, let's see. 97. Like a real I'll say she's when did Hill Street Blues go off the air?
[00:17:31] Speaker B: Hill Street Blues went off the air 19? 62. 62, was it? No, it wasn't 62.
About 1985 or so of that nature, I believe.
54. I hope a lot of you paid attention to Jack Hart's reasoning because you could all learn a little bit from the way he goes about guessing people's ages. And he's done very well through the years. His record is excellent. Excellent.
[00:18:01] Speaker H: That's why I keep my shoes off, so I can count on them, too.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: You're a wonderful person.
I'll put your shoes back on. It's stifling in here. Mike, what do you think?
[00:18:12] Speaker D: I don't think she's quite that advanced. I'm going to say that she's takeaway three, carry the five, divided by seven, would make her 46 years old.
[00:18:26] Speaker B: 46 years old. Can you say that in Spanish also?
[00:18:30] Speaker D: Corente senor.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Very good. You speak Spanish?
[00:18:37] Speaker E: That's impressive.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd like to learn a language, too, but it takes a while because Perque Roland on fufato.
You're speaking Spanish and I was speaking Italian.
[00:18:54] Speaker D: But they're both Romance languages based in Roman. It goes back to Latin.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the same basic root.
[00:19:02] Speaker H: When I started high school, they told us we were going to study a Romance language. I thought we'd learn things like, hey, baby, Olympic pool.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: You know how to turn a radio on? You say, hey, radio, I love you, baby. Let me kiss your dial, honey.
Anyway, we're both silly. My comments had nothing to do with what you just said, but I just was anxious to bring it up. Maria, how old do you think Barbara Boston is?
[00:19:33] Speaker E: 44.
[00:19:33] Speaker B: 44, okay. And Joanne, what did Jack say?
What the root is? Jack said a lot of really dirty stuff besides that. He said 54.
[00:19:51] Speaker E: 54.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: Mike said 46 and Maria said 44.
[00:19:56] Speaker E: All right, I'll say 53.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: 53. Okay. And Steve, who's leading the game so far after only one round? This is moving very slowly, isn't it? How old do you think Barbara Boston is? Steve?
[00:20:11] Speaker G: I'm going to go with Marie and say 44.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: 44. Okay. And the very lovely crystal.
[00:20:18] Speaker C: I'm going to say 50.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: 50.
[00:20:21] Speaker D: Say that again, Crystal.
[00:20:23] Speaker C: 50.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: How old are you, by the way? Crystal, would you mind telling us?
[00:20:30] Speaker C: I'm 23.
[00:20:31] Speaker B: 23? Is she too young for you, Jack?
[00:20:33] Speaker H: No, I'm just 33.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: So ten years doesn't bother you, then, the fact that you're, like, 33% older than she is?
[00:20:41] Speaker C: You know what? Jack's too young for me, though.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Hold on.
You like older men?
[00:20:53] Speaker H: Okay, I meant to say 62.
[00:20:57] Speaker B: Okay. Barbara Basan, if you really care, and I think we're digressing, which is okay with me.
Barbara, she's 55, and so I would.
[00:21:09] Speaker E: Say, oh, I should have gone the other way.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
What do you mean by that?
[00:21:16] Speaker E: Well, I said 53.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: I see one year left. Okay.
[00:21:20] Speaker E: Actually, now be nice.
[00:21:22] Speaker B: I'll be nice.
Jack said 54, so he was the closest. And you, by sticking close to you, by the expression sticking close to Jack, you were only a couple of years off. You said 53. That was very good. Okay. You're familiar with Betsy Palmer? She was quite a big star at one time. I haven't heard or seen her for a long time. At one time, she was a writer for the Chicago Tribune. She appeared in The Last Angry Man and it could happen to Jane. She was on that quiz program, the panel show I've Got a Secret for a lot of you. She was on a few panels, but Betsy Palmer, she's been in a number of plays. I know. She was at the North Shore Music Theater.
[00:22:05] Speaker E: I thought she died.
[00:22:06] Speaker B: And on Broadway, maybe, since this book has come out. It came out about a year ago. I hadn't heard that. She did.
[00:22:13] Speaker E: No, I'm kidding.
[00:22:15] Speaker B: Okay. She was born Patricia Bromack in East Chicago, Indiana, which doesn't help at all, but she's been in a number of things. Quite an attractive lady.
And let's start with you, Steve. How old do you think Betsy Palmer.
[00:22:30] Speaker G: Is now, Norm, I knew you were going to say start with me because I have no idea who this woman is.
[00:22:36] Speaker B: I figured you didn't. And so I thought, well, let's go to someone and we'll just start right at the beginning.
[00:22:43] Speaker G: Well, I'm just going to take a let's say 71, 70.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Are you a young guy, Steve?
[00:22:52] Speaker G: I'm 34, actually. I'm 67.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: You may be closer to Crystal's. Ideal age.
Yeah.
Any of these guys appeal to you at all, Crystal?
[00:23:06] Speaker C: Oh, any one of them?
[00:23:08] Speaker B: Come on, any one of them.
Maria. What do you think?
[00:23:16] Speaker F: 69.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: 69 says Maria. Okay.
[00:23:20] Speaker C: And Crystal, I'm going to say 37. I'm going to go down the other end of the spectrum. I don't know who she is, either.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: You're going to say 37. Just a baby.
[00:23:29] Speaker H: When she was on I've Got A.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Secret, since she wasn't even born yet, when she's on I Get a Secret, which was one of the neatest devices you know how that technical crew works on television?
Special effects guys can do anything.
[00:23:43] Speaker H: Which that ultrasound thing. You can do wonderful things with that.
[00:23:47] Speaker D: Crystal, I think, on behalf of all of us on the panel, I think we're going to offer you another chance, if you want to take it.
[00:23:53] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:23:54] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:23:55] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:23:56] Speaker E: Go higher.
[00:23:57] Speaker D: Go higher. Like 20 years at least.
[00:24:00] Speaker C: Really?
[00:24:00] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:24:03] Speaker B: They all sucking up the crystal.
This is really pitiful. This is pitiful.
[00:24:09] Speaker E: She's cute.
[00:24:10] Speaker C: I'm going to go 77. I have no idea how this woman.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: What did you want to say? 77.
[00:24:14] Speaker C: 77.
[00:24:16] Speaker B: Okay, 37 plus 20 is 77.
When you're an attractive lady, it doesn't really matter, nobody cares.
Mike, what do you say?
[00:24:30] Speaker D: I'm going to say, and again, I've never heard of this fine woman either.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: But you can tell she's fine just for some strange way, I'm giving her.
[00:24:43] Speaker D: The benefit of the doubt.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:24:45] Speaker D: I'm going to say that she's 72 years old.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: 72 years of age, as we say, 72 years young, which is such a condescending way to put it.
[00:24:54] Speaker D: Thank you, Willard Scott.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: Joanne, what do you think?
[00:24:58] Speaker E: I'll say 70.
[00:25:00] Speaker B: 70. And Jack?
[00:25:02] Speaker H: 74.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: 74, okay. Betsy Palmer. This very day, November 1, is 68.
So I believe Maria, who said 69, in fact. Yeah, she'd be the closest.
Yeah, Steve and Maria and Jack have one win apiece, so this all right. It's anybody's dumb birthday game.
Bill Anderson, you know that name? He's a country and western singer, little wimpy guy.
[00:25:32] Speaker H: What country?
[00:25:34] Speaker B: I don't know. Doesn't say that here.
I think it may be same place that Fernando Venezuela came.
[00:25:41] Speaker D: Fernando.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: Fernando. His biggest hit was called still, S-T-I-L-L in 1963.
Whispering Bill, as they call him. Whispering Bill.
If you ever watch the TNN, the Nashville Network, and if you do, why whispering?
He's on that every now and then. He's been a member of the Grand Old Opry. Here's another clue. Since 1961, he's written several country hits, including Blood on the Saddle, which had to do with a serious ailment he had at one time.
And he appeared in a few films.
I have no idea the name of the film. His name is Bill Anderson and he appeared one film was called The Romance of Chicken Fat, something of that nature.
It didn't make it really big, but it scored him a lot of points in the arts theaters. He played, like some of the Cambridge theaters here in the Harvard Square Theater.
Anyway, Joanne oh, God.
How old and? He's from Columbia, South Carolina. He's born there.
[00:27:00] Speaker E: Okay, you said he had a hit.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: In 63 called still and had been a member of the Grand Old Library since 61.
[00:27:08] Speaker H: But he had been whispering, so he never heard the song.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:27:11] Speaker E: I have no idea who he is, but I'll say 50 50.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: This is the day no idea.
Apparently, November 1 is the day that people who nobody know were born. Exactly. Yeah.
[00:27:25] Speaker E: The only one I knew was Betsy Palmer.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And a lot of others on the panel here. They didn't even know her.
[00:27:32] Speaker E: Well, I know her, but I didn't know the others.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Okay. Crystal, how old do you I don't know why I'm laughing. That's just a nervous tick I have.
How old do you think Bill anderson is 57. 57.
Okay. And Jack?
55. 55.
Maria?
[00:27:54] Speaker F: 49. I don't know him either.
[00:27:57] Speaker B: Okay, budy. He knows you, baby.
[00:28:02] Speaker E: Sorry.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: Steve, what do you think?
[00:28:06] Speaker G: I'm going to go with Jack and say 55.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: 55. Okay. And Mike?
[00:28:11] Speaker D: I'm going to go a little higher.
Yeah, I'm going to go 59.
[00:28:16] Speaker B: 59.
[00:28:17] Speaker E: Yeah, I'd like to change my number.
[00:28:19] Speaker B: Sorry.
Because all the guesses are already in. And it's written here's the rulebook. Can you hear it?
And it says, once all the numbers.
[00:28:32] Speaker E: Are in okay, but a nice try.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
Actually, Crystal hit it right on a button.
57. Exactly. 57 was just a wild guess.
[00:28:44] Speaker C: I tried to figure it out mathematically.
[00:28:47] Speaker B: Well, you did figure it out. Exactly. So we have four winners and each one only just one piece.
Whatever I just said, I don't quite follow that.
[00:28:58] Speaker E: To get the next two.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: Okay. You know Larry Flint?
[00:29:03] Speaker D: I know the name.
Publisher of that magazine.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: You can see I'm really digging to the bottom of the barrel with this kind of stuff.
Okay. Yeah. Larry Flint. The next one after this, though, will be a very well known person and you'll be just so thrilled you're playing the game.
[00:29:23] Speaker H: I understand that. Larry Flint, his parents were in business with another fella. Flint and Steele.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: I don't know that that's true.
Flint and steel.
That's probably hilarious, but I don't understand that. Does anybody understand that?
[00:29:44] Speaker H: Flint and a steel.
Boy Scout. You have a Flint and a Steel and you make a fire.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I didn't know that. After rubbing a stick, I guess. I was never a Boy Scout.
I'm sorry.
[00:29:57] Speaker E: Neither was I. Yeah, but you understood the joke. Yeah.
[00:30:01] Speaker H: I guess you knew some Boy Scout.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: She probably fooled around. Plenty of Boy Scout in your camp.
[00:30:10] Speaker E: I had four.
[00:30:12] Speaker B: Awesome. Okay.
[00:30:13] Speaker E: That helped.
[00:30:14] Speaker B: Okay, let's start with you, Chris. Now, let's start with Jack this time.
Larry Flint, publisher of Hustler Magazine. One of the great contributions to literary journalism.
[00:30:29] Speaker D: Photojournalism.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Photojournalism. Yeah.
[00:30:32] Speaker H: I just get the magazine for the stories.
[00:30:36] Speaker E: Especially Hustler. Great stories. For sure.
[00:30:39] Speaker H: How do you know?
I've heard about it.
[00:30:43] Speaker D: He's a contributing writer.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: He has brothers who get dirty magazines.
[00:30:51] Speaker H: He had some sort of an accident or something.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: He's in a wheelchair. Yes, he does. He's not. He's yeah, he's not. Well, yeah. He was shot.
[00:30:58] Speaker E: Yeah, that was the accident.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Why would I shoot him?
[00:31:01] Speaker E: Why would somebody tried to kill him.
[00:31:03] Speaker B: Why was that?
They grew up.
Yeah.
Their fiance wasn't picked as the COVID girl for that month or something.
[00:31:16] Speaker H: Maybe she was picked as the COVID girl.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: Maybe.
[00:31:20] Speaker H: Let's see.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: 53 and Mike, what do you think?
[00:31:27] Speaker D: I got to get one here. I haven't gotten one right yet, have I?
[00:31:31] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:31:32] Speaker D: You and goose egg.
[00:31:33] Speaker B: Yeah, you and Joanne, as a matter of fact.
You've both been very close. But no winning wins yet.
[00:31:40] Speaker D: All right. I'm going to say 55 years old.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: 55 years old. Okay. Maria, what do you think?
[00:31:46] Speaker F: Yeah, I'm going with Mike. 55 years old brings to mind, too.
[00:31:50] Speaker B: Okay. Joanne, what do you say?
[00:31:54] Speaker E: No, I'm going to say 63.
[00:31:56] Speaker B: 63. Okay. Steve?
[00:32:01] Speaker G: 56.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: 56. Okay. And Crystal?
[00:32:07] Speaker C: I'll say 52.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: That's exactly right. Did you really guess that one, too?
[00:32:14] Speaker C: Well, yeah.
No, I went lower than I took, like, the lowest bid on that one.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yours was the lowest one. Lower than jack, right?
[00:32:25] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Yeah. That's very good. Now you're leading the pack.
No, that's not that bad. No.
Lyle Lovett, who married Judy Roberts, as you know, won a Grammy in 1989 for best male country vocal. His biggest hit was in 1986. It's called cowboy, man. That's a funny title, isn't it? Cowboy man.
Cowboy man.
[00:32:57] Speaker E: It's the guy with the mouth and the hair.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: But I mean, a guy's, a cowboy, beautiful girl and a beautiful woman.
That was one of the most unbelievable characters. The fact that she was a hooker, this little, delicate, lovely little girl next to her, I mean, was so silly.
[00:33:19] Speaker E: Cinderella, part two.
[00:33:22] Speaker B: Cinderella, part two.
[00:33:23] Speaker E: Yeah. Pretty woman.
[00:33:25] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:33:26] Speaker H: Went to the ball. She couldn't make it with the print, so she turned to a life of hooking.
[00:33:36] Speaker B: I have a copy of the videotape at home. Somebody gave that to me. And it's a ridiculous picture, yet it got some great comments, and it really made a big star out of her. Anyway, Lyle Lovett was born in Klein, Texas, which doesn't indicate anything but the Grammy in 1989 and the Cowboy Man big hit in 1986. And from those, you can probably figure out his age.
Joanne, what do you think?
[00:34:04] Speaker E: 37.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: 37, okay.
And Mike, what do you think?
[00:34:15] Speaker D: 30.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: Okay, 30.
And Jack?
38. 38.
And Maria?
[00:34:30] Speaker F: I'm with Joanne. 37.
[00:34:34] Speaker B: You always sound like you're imitating some little girl from England.
[00:34:38] Speaker F: I'm sorry. That's just what I am.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: I know. I was making sport. Steve, what do you say?
[00:34:47] Speaker G: Let's go with 40.
[00:34:49] Speaker B: 40. And Crystal?
[00:34:50] Speaker C: I want to say 33.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: 33. Okay. Jack. Jack. Got it right on the button. 38. 38.
Yeah.
[00:34:59] Speaker D: No, I didn't think it was that old.
[00:35:00] Speaker B: How long do you think it takes.
[00:35:01] Speaker H: To grow that hair?
[00:35:05] Speaker B: Actually, he's 38, and his hair is 41.
Okay. Harvey. Harvey. There's just one more to go because we have a tie here so far with Jack and Crystal.
Son of a gun. And that's about all.
There are some other names.
Yeah, let's do another name. I was going to ask you when the play Harvey opened on Broadway, what year? Because it was on November 1. But I tell you what, let's go with Gary player.
Gary, the pro golfer. That's right. From South Africa. He won the Masters, the US Open, PGA, and the British Open twice. So obviously one of the really great golfers of all time, right next to Mordecai Blintz's, who played golf every Tuesday afternoon for his. Entire life and died without winning a game. But that's a whole we'll save that for another program.
Crystal, how old do you think Gary Player is?
[00:36:12] Speaker C: I don't have any idea. 50.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: 50. Okay.
And Steve, let's go with 45.
Joanne?
[00:36:27] Speaker E: Wow.
I have no idea.
52.
[00:36:33] Speaker B: Do you realize how many times people have said I have no idea? Well, I don't okay, no, that was just a question. I was just wondering.
[00:36:42] Speaker E: I think he's been around a while.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: So you say 52 then in that case, which okay. And Maria, what do you say?
[00:36:49] Speaker E: 60.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: 60. Okay. Mike?
[00:36:53] Speaker D: 57.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: Mike says 57 and Jack 55. 55. Okay. So we'll see if we can break the tie here because we got a time because we mentioned between Crystal and Jack. So this is really exciting one. These are magic moments.
[00:37:08] Speaker D: Let me move over to the edge of my seat here.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: Yeah, this is really cool.
[00:37:12] Speaker E: I just like to get one.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: Okay. Actually, Gary player is 59.
I believe Mike got down. He said 57.
No, wait a minute, maria said 60.
So that makes it a three way tie. Now that didn't resolve anything.
Yeah, maria's got two.
It is. Well, we'll go for that Harvey thing then. Okay, let me see what I can tell you about Harvey. Hold on, let me see.
Boy, this is really exciting. See, when you break the tie now, if not, we'll have to send out thousands of gifts, junkie gifts that nobody wants, and that doesn't seem fair.
Harvey, let me see.
I was going to tell you the year.
[00:38:01] Speaker E: Go ahead.
[00:38:02] Speaker B: Harvey opened on Broadway on this date, November 1. The idea is to tell me what year. That was a comedy by Mary Chase about a man and his friend, an invisible six foot tall rabbit, opened on Broadway, and I don't remember who played that. Jimmy Stewart played in the movies. And I saw Joey Brown play it on the stage.
I think it was almost can think of that name. The guy the original character for Harvey. Are you all familiar with the play itself?
[00:38:41] Speaker E: Yes.
[00:38:43] Speaker G: No idea. Norm?
[00:38:44] Speaker B: No idea. Okay, there we go again. At least one person's got to say no idea about every one of these things.
[00:38:50] Speaker G: I wanted to keep the streak alive.
[00:38:52] Speaker B: You wanted to do what?
[00:38:54] Speaker G: Keep the streak alive.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: And you did. God love you. Okay, let's start with again. It was November 1, but how long ago was it that it opened on Broadway? And what year was it, Crystal?
[00:39:10] Speaker C: Oh, you're going to start with me again.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: Did we start with you last time? Okay, we won't start with you. We'll start with Maria this time then.
[00:39:18] Speaker F: Okay. 1950.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: 719. 57. Okay. And another two time winner is Jackhart. So we'll go with him next.
1948.
And Crystal.
[00:39:36] Speaker C: 1955.
[00:39:44] Speaker B: Okay. Steve, what do you think?
Besides never having heard of the play?
[00:39:52] Speaker G: Well, educated guess, right? 1950.
[00:39:58] Speaker B: 619. 56.
[00:40:01] Speaker E: Joanne, what was the lowest year.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: The lowest year was the year that I was born.
That's not very much of a comeback. That's all I could think of. Jack said 1948.
[00:40:22] Speaker E: That was the okay, I'll say 1940.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: 1940.
Okay. Are you to have that much confidence in Jack? Apparently.
[00:40:32] Speaker E: Yes, I do. He wins all the time.
[00:40:35] Speaker H: Wow.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: I suppose that's a way to figure. Yeah.
Mike, what do you think?
[00:40:44] Speaker D: 1940.
1947.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: 47. Okay. The actual year. This is the 50th anniversary of the opening. So it was 1944.
Started the same year that D day.
[00:41:02] Speaker E: Did I get it?
[00:41:04] Speaker B: Let's see. You said 40.
You were four years away, and so was Jack. Wait a minute. No. Yeah. Jack was four years away. Also, I said 47.
[00:41:14] Speaker D: I was one year closer.
[00:41:16] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's right. You were closer. That's right. You were.
[00:41:20] Speaker E: You said 48. Mike.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: No, he said 47. I got to jot it down. Mike got that.
[00:41:27] Speaker D: All right.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: We didn't break a tie at all.
[00:41:29] Speaker D: Thanks.
[00:41:30] Speaker B: But you got up on the so, actually actually, Crystal and Maria both will get some really tasteless, tacky prizes. Totally useless in the world.
[00:41:43] Speaker D: We don't have one more that we can just have one runoff between the two of them.
[00:41:48] Speaker B: Between the two of them? Yeah. I don't know. We'll send them both something.
[00:41:51] Speaker D: I think that's a good idea.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: I think so. I think so. The only one who does not get an injured Jack is he works for this organization.
[00:41:58] Speaker H: And I get nothing.
[00:41:59] Speaker B: You get nothing, but you're just as well.
[00:42:01] Speaker D: You're talking about our paychecks.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Notice. He waits till five minutes to four, assured that the management is entirely asleep at this time before he puts the digs in. So I'll tell you what. Hang on. Crystal and Maria.
[00:42:19] Speaker F: Okay, let me just say this before I go. All you guys are real sexy. You would get my vote, not Cary Grant.
[00:42:28] Speaker B: Okay?
[00:42:28] Speaker G: I think I'm in love with this woman.
[00:42:32] Speaker B: You'll have rabbit white railway.
That's right. Just keep saying that. Keep saying that. She breaks out into a cold rash, gets really excited. Okay.
[00:42:43] Speaker F: The other people who are on the panel are really good playing with you.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. I love the way you say that. Crystal and Maria. Hold on. And we thank you for playing the game. And Mike will take your name and address, names and address of both of you. And I'll send you something that you really poor. You'll put it up at a flea market, probably within moments of the moment. Just don't mail it back to us, okay? Because we don't want to ever see it again.
[00:43:11] Speaker E: And I'm just a total loser, but I had a great deal of fun.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: I'm glad. Thank you very much.
[00:43:17] Speaker E: Joanne.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: You're not a total loser at all. Don't say that. And Steve. Thanks. Thanks a lot. You're fun, too.
[00:43:22] Speaker D: Thanks.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: Norm and Jack, what can I say about you? Not sure. I guess you're right. Too, because I can't think of a thing. We'll talk to you in a few minutes. All right. Okay, bye bye. I know. We'll talk to him in a few minutes, but he'll be back in a few minutes doing the dumb traffic report.
[00:43:41] Speaker A: Closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it. For exciting moments, blabbering through the something fitting the criteria white rabbit, white rabbit, white rabbit england bordering states makeovers the Mexican NFL cop rock Bosco little Wimpy bill Anderson, TNN the Grand Ole Opry blood on the saddle the romance of chick and fat, flint and Steel a life of hooking harvey the six foot puka total losers who have a great deal of fun mike Epstein jack Hart in the exotic newbile Norm Nathan I'm Tony Nesvitt.
