Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: The Halloween theme continues before we dive into even more fun and hilarity with this Norm Nathan show from October 15 and 16th, or maybe just the 15th, or maybe just the 16th of 1993. Let's call this one hut swing and other things.
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This episode begins with a Jack Hart traffic report and then on to some guests. Dave Bertolino from Spooky World and one of the performers, Linnea Quigley. She's a scream queen from horror classics such as Return of the Living Dead, Nightmare sisters, sorority babes in the Slime, Ballorama and Hollywood chainsaw hookers. The next up is Craig Ball, whose white heat swing orchestra will be backing up Joel Grey at the Roxy. Now this one is a great conversation. There are callers, of course, Paul in the car, Jean from Weymouth, Norma Jack and Milton, Mary from Maine, Greenie from Amsterdam, New York. In one of his funniest appearances, Robert from Everett, Dan in Boston, a different Robert talking about ham radio. Ed in Boston, maybe not. And Betty, we's gots commercials. Carolina Brown Rice Pilgrim Healthcare, Silver City Ford Hyundai coachman, Dodge Toyota Times two marazine with Linda Kern from Lahaina, Hawaii, wriggling brothers and Barnum and Bailey Circus. Bill Marlow for Tommy Floramos and Chelsea ADT home security, voiced by Jay McQuaid. Gene, Jim Brown couldn't quite understand, or when you listen to the commercial, it sounds like they introduce him as Gene Brown or Jim. And then it changes in the middle of the commercial. I don't know. Help me out. You tell me what he says. So I'm gonna say Gene, Jim Brown of Grand Prairie, Texas, and his itchy chafing problem that was relieved by triple action gold on medicated powder, the WBZ afternoon news and rich chocolate ovaltine. Episode 205 Hut. Swing and other things shimmies its way to your ears in three, two, and one.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: The situation on the expressway southbound by Naponset. An earlier accident there still causing some delays. Keep it in mind, we've got work crews out on route 128, northbound from route 20 in Waltham, right up to just about route two in the Lexington area. Left lanes shut down. Downtown area. Light to moderate volume in the expressway. Northbound lower deck of Route 93 in the Tobin Bridge, heading into the city. You're in okay shape. I'm Jack Hart, WBZ 24 hours traffic network, one of nature's best sources of fiber and complex carbohydrates. Delicious Carolina Brown rice is hardly your.
[00:03:19] Speaker C: Typical health food, actually, every night in October. And the park opens at 07:00 p.m. each evening.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Okay, and tell us about spooky world. Now, you have.
[00:03:32] Speaker C: Well, we bill ourselves as America's horror theme park. And the centerpiece of the park is a spooky world hayride tour through 22 Hollywood stage sets, and that takes about 26 minutes to go through.
The stage sets are recreations from various horror and science fiction movies, as well as pyrotechnics, fog machines, special effects. Along the trail, then we have an animated haunted house, which we also have actors that are live in the haunted house that recreate scenes. And from that point, you are ushered into a museum.
We have moving stage sets as well as Hollywood celebrities who meet and greet our guests each evening. Currently, we have Linnea Quigley, who's Hollywood scream queen, appearing in many famous horror pictures.
And she's on hand to meet and greet all of our guests each evening, as well as Bobby Boris Pickett. You might remember him from the monster mash.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Yes, I do.
[00:04:46] Speaker C: Famous song that's sort of the national anthem for Halloween.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Oh, that sounds great. It just seems like a shame, though, that you're only open one month out of the year with all that equipment, all that stuff going for you.
[00:04:59] Speaker C: Yeah, it's quite an investment. But we do have literally thousands of people who come out and join us each evening. And we put on quite a production, and it's quite labor intensive. And that's the reason why we only do it for one month. It takes 360 employees to operate spooky world each evening.
[00:05:21] Speaker B: Okay. I remember talking with you about this last year. You have been in business too many years now, have you?
[00:05:26] Speaker C: No, this is our third season, actually.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: Okay, now, Bobby Pickett and Linnea.
[00:05:32] Speaker C: Linnea. Quigley.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Quigley. Are they with you now?
[00:05:35] Speaker C: Actually, Linnea is right here. Would you like to say hello?
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd love to.
[00:05:39] Speaker C: Okay, hold on.
[00:05:40] Speaker B: Thank you very, very much. David.
[00:05:42] Speaker D: Hi, Norm.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: Hi, Linnea.
[00:05:44] Speaker D: How are you doing?
[00:05:45] Speaker B: I'm doing just fine. I love the. I love the title screen queen. We talked with a scream queen. Let me check. Now, another woman who's a scream Quinn, who came into town.
Oh, Brink Stevens, that's who. Brent Stevens. Do you know her?
[00:06:01] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, I know her. We've done a couple movies together.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: I kind of had a feeling you scream queens.
[00:06:06] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:06:07] Speaker B: Kind of knew each other.
[00:06:08] Speaker D: Yes, we do.
[00:06:09] Speaker B: Okay, now what I love is the names of the movies that you have been in. What are the names? Some of the names of some of the things you've done.
[00:06:17] Speaker D: Okay. Return of the living dead, nightmare sisters, night of the demons, sorority babes and the slime ball bowlerama.
[00:06:26] Speaker B: I'm sorry, say that last part again.
[00:06:28] Speaker D: Sorority babes in the slime ball bowl. Arama.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: Oh, and his orchestra. That sounds like a. Yeah, and his orchestra sounds like. I'm telling you, with dads, too.
[00:06:38] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. It's a good dancing movie. Yeah, and Hollywood chainsaw hookers is really good, too.
[00:06:45] Speaker B: Hollywood chains saw hookers.
[00:06:47] Speaker D: Yeah, they charge an arm and a leg.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: Oh, please. Oh, that is the worst joke.
[00:06:53] Speaker D: Yeah, it's pretty bad.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: No, that's, no, that's. That's kind of funny. Is it fun? Is it fun for you to make movies like that?
[00:06:59] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. Especially if, you know, you're the one with the chainsaw. If you're the one on the other end of the chainsaw, it's not so fun.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Okay. Are you an incredibly attractive woman?
[00:07:11] Speaker D: Sure.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Okay. No, no, because I remember, I think in order to be a scream queen, you have to be that. I'm kind of digressing and sounding kind of lecherous, so maybe I better get off that.
[00:07:26] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. You're being a little bit too lecherous there now.
[00:07:28] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah, I think so. But in any of it, how did you get involved in this kind of not the spooky world? Because I want to ask you in just a minute what it is you do at spooky world, how you get involved in these horror movies.
[00:07:41] Speaker D: Well, I was a fan of horror films and I loved being scared. And so I kind of naturally got into doing them because I really, really enjoy watching them.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:53] Speaker D: Do you like watching the horror films too?
[00:07:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess I do. I guess everybody likes to be scared. What do you suppose the psychology is behind that? Why do we pay money to be frightened by films, to be frightened by roller coasters. They're just be frightened by a whole lot of things.
[00:08:09] Speaker D: I don't know, I think because it gets your endorphins going.
[00:08:14] Speaker B: I never thought of that. You know, that makes sense.
[00:08:16] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. It gets your endorphins going. So it's like you get kind of like, you know, you know, you know, you're.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: How about this for a philosophical answer? You know, you're alive.
[00:08:27] Speaker D: It's not just like a good one. You know you're alive.
[00:08:30] Speaker B: That's right. It's not like going to the office nine to five every day, just sit there and you get scared out of your wits. And so every. Every fiber of your body is frightened, and, you know, you have fibers in your body, and it makes you feel like you're. You're doing something.
[00:08:46] Speaker D: Yeah. And it's a good excuse for when you're younger to, you know, hold the girl's hand or, you know, sit a little closer to her.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it's interesting you would put it that way. What about the girl holding the guy's hand, too?
[00:08:59] Speaker D: That sometimes does happen. I've seen a couple people come to spooky world where the guys were more scared than the girls.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Now, what is it you do at spooky work?
[00:09:08] Speaker D: I sign autographs and talk to the different people that come through.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sorry. You sounded like you. You sounded like you were just on part two and you had about six more parts to go.
[00:09:21] Speaker D: Oh.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: Your voice was sort of hanging up in there in the air. I thought. I thought you were going to continue.
You don't. You don't scare people in a spooky world?
[00:09:28] Speaker D: No, I don't scare them. They're scared enough by the time they get to me.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Okay, now, how long will you be there?
[00:09:35] Speaker D: I will be here till Thursday.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Okay, so you're just here for another week, Dennis?
[00:09:40] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:09:40] Speaker B: Okay, then what are you gonna do? You go back to Hollywood or wherever you make spooky movies?
[00:09:46] Speaker D: Yes. Then I go back. I go back to Hollywood, and I just was in Rome. I did a film there called fatal frames.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: Fatal frames.
Okay, now, why was that made in Rome?
[00:09:58] Speaker D: Well, that's where the director that I worked with is from, and that's where he wanted to shoot the film because there's a lot of castles there and a lot of, you know, they wanted the background of Rome.
[00:10:11] Speaker C: Do you.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: Do you work in heavy makeup that makes you look really.
[00:10:14] Speaker D: I have, yeah. Yes. And I don't do that anymore because it's. It's very, very. I don't like it. I get claustrophobic doing that kind of thing.
[00:10:23] Speaker B: You mean by having your face covered with makeup and all? What was the weirdest kind of get up your head?
[00:10:30] Speaker D: Oh, boy. The weirdest.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Oh, one of the weirdest.
[00:10:34] Speaker D: Oh, boy, I don't know if I can sit over the air, but in night of the demons I had some fake breath type things on some fake breast type things. Yeah, you know, those type of things.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: I don't know, I don't know. What does that mean?
[00:10:51] Speaker D: Let's see. Well, they, they strapped some things on me and I did a little trick with them.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: With fake breasts?
[00:11:00] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: These. What, went over your own breasts, you mean?
[00:11:03] Speaker D: Yes, yes. And there was some lipstick involved and all kinds of fun stuff.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: Would it be possible for you to describe just a little bit of what fake breasts do or am I treading on very dangerous ground?
[00:11:18] Speaker D: Oh, no, no.
They make a mold of you and then what they do is they put the fake ones over you. And I had a trick where I become possessed and I take a lipstick and stick it through myself and the lipstick disappears.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: I see. When you, when you're filming this kind of stuff, is it hard to keep a straight face or.
[00:11:41] Speaker D: Sometimes it is, yeah. You just want to laugh, especially when you're a demon or something and you're growling a lot.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: And what about, do you folks get a chance to see these movies and do they make any comments?
[00:11:52] Speaker D: Yeah, I took them to Hollywood, chainsaw hookers and also I have a horror workout and we filmed part of the horror workup workout up at my parents house. So they had a good time. They were serving coffee to the zombies and everything.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: What? And what? They were serving coffee to the zombies. I see.
They introduce you as. Hello, this is Linnea. She is my screen queen daughter. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of. How old are you, by the way? May I ask that?
[00:12:21] Speaker D: I'm in my thirties now, I guess.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: I said, may I ask you that? I guess you meant it to me.
[00:12:26] Speaker D: You should know.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: No, the question is whether or not you would answer that.
[00:12:32] Speaker D: Right. That's why kind of did what now?
[00:12:35] Speaker B: Are you looking for a.
How can I phrase this?
A different area of filmmaking or.
[00:12:44] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm going to be having my own show in January. It's a tv show, kind of like tales from the crypt, but it's going to be called Linnea Quigley's urban legends.
[00:12:53] Speaker B: Oh, really? Is this going to be a cable thing, like get tales from the crypt?
[00:12:56] Speaker D: Yes. Uh huh. And then I'm going to be doing a musical in Chicago. It's plan nine from outer space.
[00:13:03] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:13:04] Speaker D: Yeah. And that's going to be in March.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: Now what about, what about this cable? Will that be on HBO, the same as tales from the crypt?
[00:13:12] Speaker D: I'm not sure yet? I think so.
[00:13:15] Speaker B: Okay. So you're going to continue along the spooky line then for longer?
[00:13:19] Speaker D: I think so.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: That's kind of, that's kind of, that's kind of fun. Are you married?
[00:13:24] Speaker D: No, I'm not.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Do you have dates with the guys who are or are you, do you intimidate guys because of what you do?
[00:13:31] Speaker D: I don't think so. I don't think so.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Because you're not intimidating me or Tony Nesbitt or any people around here. They think you sound really great.
[00:13:38] Speaker D: Oh, that's good.
[00:13:39] Speaker B: But then again, you don't have tons of makeup on or anything else.
[00:13:43] Speaker D: I didn't take care of them if I was a demon. I think.
[00:13:45] Speaker B: Are you, do you look like a demon when you're out there at Spooky World?
[00:13:49] Speaker D: No, no, no.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: You look like the girl next door.
[00:13:54] Speaker D: Mm hmm. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And one thing I was going to tell you, that spooky world's a major contributor to the WBZ children's hospital telethon.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: I was going to ask you about that because I know that WBZ TV and WBZ radio does have something to do with world. I've seen somewhere.
[00:14:12] Speaker D: And the proceeds go to the sale. They go from the sale of the t shirts and hats and sweatshirts go to the telethon.
[00:14:20] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:14:21] Speaker D: So that's one good thing if, when the people come out here, they know that their money's going to something good.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Okay. Linnea Quigley, the screen queen, who. You'll be there every night until next Thursday.
[00:14:32] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:14:33] Speaker B: Okay. That's nice. It's.
[00:14:35] Speaker D: And they have a lot more exciting guests coming, coming after me, too.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: What do you mean by that?
[00:14:42] Speaker D: Well, there's Linda Blair who's coming.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:14:45] Speaker D: Kane Hodder, who plays Jason on Friday the 13th.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: Oh, my.
[00:14:50] Speaker D: Tom Savini, who's a major makeup artist.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Oh, that sounds great. And you, you've, you've met Bobby Pickett? The.
[00:14:57] Speaker D: I met Bobby Pickett. Yes. He sang.
[00:15:00] Speaker B: Is he, is he a good fellow or does he just sit around all day and say, you know, once I had a hit record called Monster Mash and I'm sitting around trying to figure out what to record next. I haven't recorded in 20,000 years.
[00:15:12] Speaker D: Wow. Yeah.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Is he that kind of a guy?
[00:15:16] Speaker D: I don't think so.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: No.
[00:15:17] Speaker D: I think he's a nice guy.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:15:20] Speaker D: I didn't talk to him a long time because he was ready to perform, but he's.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: What does he do? What has he performed? Does he sing the monster mash? Over and over again?
[00:15:27] Speaker D: No, just once. One. Once at eight and once at ten.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: Okay. That's his whole act, just to sing the monster mash twice a night?
[00:15:34] Speaker D: Yes, but it's not to be missed. I tell you.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Not to be missed.
[00:15:42] Speaker D: Well, the people are all dancing. It's fun. And also, there's spooky roki out here.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Now, what is that? It's.
[00:15:48] Speaker D: It's like croaky, but it's spooky.
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Oh, you sing spooky songs to the karaoke machine?
[00:15:55] Speaker D: Yeah, it's really fun. Yeah, the audience really likes it.
[00:15:58] Speaker B: Like what kind of. What kind of song? Do you recall the title of any.
[00:16:01] Speaker D: Oh, boy. What are some of the titles of the songs?
[00:16:03] Speaker B: They change the chainsaw Adams family, the Polka, the monster mash. Oh, monster mash, of course.
[00:16:10] Speaker D: Witchy woman.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Witchy woman.
[00:16:13] Speaker D: Uh huh.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
Yeah. That's the last time I heard that was at a bar mitzvah about a week and a half ago. They were all singing that.
[00:16:21] Speaker D: No way.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Especially the old ladies with the old guys with a YAML kiss.
[00:16:24] Speaker D: They were singing witchy woman.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: I made that out, ok?
I just made it up. It seemed like it'd be a funny thing to say.
[00:16:33] Speaker D: Are you coming out here, Norm?
[00:16:35] Speaker B: I think maybe I will. That sounds kind of fun. It sounds like kind of fun. I have to make it by Thursday, though, won't I?
[00:16:40] Speaker D: Yes, you better.
[00:16:41] Speaker B: And you open at 07:00 in the evening. 07:00 and when is it close?
[00:16:46] Speaker D: The last wagon goes out at midnight.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: That sounds like it. That sounds like a western and it doesn't.
[00:16:52] Speaker D: It doesn't come back in, I tell you, it just kind of disappears. I've never seen the last wagon come back in.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: Never seen them, eh? Well, this sounds like a job for Wonder Woman.
I don't know what I'm saying. I talk to a scream queen and I fall apart.
[00:17:08] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:17:09] Speaker D: Gee.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: Hey, you're a pleasure to talk. Talk with and tell Dave, David Bertolino, he's. He's a pleasure to talk with. What do you suppose he does the. The other eleven months of the year?
[00:17:21] Speaker D: Boy, I don't know, but maybe we should get. What, the eyewitness video to follow him around.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: I think so. That may be a job for the WBZ iteam.
[00:17:32] Speaker D: I think so.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: Joe Burgatino follow around? Maybe. He's involved in all kinds of illegal, corrupt things, you know. This way? Yeah, this way. He makes his big bucks there and he can afford just a full around for a month out of the year scaring people.
[00:17:47] Speaker D: Oops. The godfather's here at the door. I think I'm gonna have to.
[00:17:50] Speaker B: Okay. Hey, thanks a lot. Good luck. You know, I just wanted to mention again that this is spooky world out in Berlin, New Hampshire. Not Berlin, New Hampshire, Berlin, Massachusetts. And it's between here and Worcester, and it's off of 495.
In fact, you take the Worcester Road, route 290, and it's exit 25 off there. It's right around there in that area. They've been running newspaper ads which give the complete directions and stuff. I think that would be a great deal of money. Have a lot of kids, or there are a lot of older people taking part in that.
[00:18:21] Speaker D: Both.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: Both, yeah.
[00:18:23] Speaker D: And the kids are braver than the parents, I swear.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Well, parents are. They wouldn't be parents if they weren't chicken.
[00:18:29] Speaker D: That's true.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: I have no idea why I just said that. I'm glad you said it's true, because I don't even know what that means.
And good luck. I hope I will be looking for the cape, the tv show that you'll be doing, and all things in the future. Miss Scream queen.
[00:18:43] Speaker D: Oh, well, thank you. And remember, they charge an arm and a leg.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: You won't give that up.
Okay. Hey, thanks a lot. Best to you and Dave Bertolino and all the swell folks out of spooky world, and. And especially Bobby Pickett, who just never tires of singing the monster mash.
[00:19:02] Speaker D: Okay, well, I better see at Spooky World.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: Okay. Take care, Jerry.
[00:19:06] Speaker D: Okay.
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[00:21:15] Speaker D: I get everything that moves, sick car.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Air, boat, you name it, to a very large extent. And we'll be playing for Joel Gray, who will be performing at the rock seed this very night, Saturday night, as a matter of fact. How you doing, Craig?
[00:21:31] Speaker C: Norm, it's great to be with you again. Last time I talked to you was direct from the rocks. He. A couple years ago after a performance.
And, yeah, tomorrow night, actually, we're going back into Roxy to back up Joel Gray. This is a big fundraiser for the Cohen Hillel Academy, and actually, we're gonna also be doing some dance sets for about an hour afterwards, so people will be able to get out there and dance little bit, too. I've got to tell you that we were down at the Roxy for what, 1988 to 1992, before it turned into a country and western club for a little while, and they brought us back and then it changed again. You know, life goes on.
[00:22:18] Speaker B: It's kind of like a radio station.
We have that. Hey, we're going to be Polka 92.6.
[00:22:25] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:22:26] Speaker B: That will be. It's waltz time. 1992, 2.66. Anyway, I know that where they were looking for some kind of a farm. I'm glad they're. I'm glad you're back there again.
[00:22:35] Speaker C: Yeah, we're doing. We're doing just this Saturday night. And also, here's the big news. We'll be there New Year's Eve, and for the last five years, that's been a sellout. So if people want to get involved in that, we'll.
They should get on it right away.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: And when you talk about a sellout, you're really talking something, because the Roxy is a very big place. Holds a lot of people.
[00:23:00] Speaker C: It holds 1300 people. That's exactly right. When we first went in there in May or late April of 1988, a soft opening, we thought, well, Jesus is a huge place. Nobody will ever come down here and expect to hear a swing band. And by the fall, we had limos double deep out in front of the place.
It looked like Broadway, 1938, in front of the. In front of the joint. And. And it went for five years. I couldn't believe it. It was amazing. One thing, though, is that, well, I used to always hang out there after the gig was over and maybe drink a glass or two of champagne and head on my way home and driving down the mass pike to my perch in Harvard Square. One night in particular, I heard your. I listen to BZ, and so I'm listening to your show on the way home and. And you played don't be that way.
Oh, yeah.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That was actually. It was. Bob Rawley used to use that as a theme song, right?
[00:23:58] Speaker C: That's. That's right.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:01] Speaker C: Yeah. It was amazing. Anytime I'm riding around in a car and I can hear some hot Benny Goodman or swing music, that just, like, makes my day.
[00:24:10] Speaker B: You're such a young guy to be involved in that kind of music. That always surprises me.
[00:24:14] Speaker C: Well, look, we've got a. We've got a huge young audience that's going for hot swing music. I mean. I mean, the main thing that I like is, you know, if I get a chance to. Is to let loose and play some up tempo hot stuff. We're not really a nostalgia type of operation, although we mask ourselves occasionally to play some society stuff. But we do. Let's see, we've done Boston College prom for the last couple years and Harvard hasty pudding for years.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: You did the BC college prom?
[00:24:45] Speaker C: You're darn right. With the straight swing music.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: With the straight swing. Isn't that interesting?
[00:24:49] Speaker C: Yeah. And they went nuts. I have videotapes to prove it. So if anybody doubts me, I mean, they're all dressed up and, you know. You know, swing music really was in the. In the. But, you know, if you listen to disco today and you listen to John Philip Souza, it's the same beat, basically. It's a sort of bum, bum, bum, bum, bum bum bum, bum, bum.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Actually, actually, the johns, Phillip Seuss of the marches are the same as the old Dixieland beat, right? Yeah. Except, you know, they're kind of syncopated.
[00:25:21] Speaker C: Right.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: But it's the same beat, is it not? I mean, you could.
[00:25:24] Speaker C: Well, it is. The thing about the swing stuff was, is that they took that bump, bump and then they had bump, bump, bump, bump, bump. They put it four to the bar instead of two. And. And that was sort of a unique period in american history when these, you know, swing music was basically throwing it in the face of ballroom dancers and doing something hot. Jitterbugging and something outrageous. And these are all 15, 1617 year olds that did it. And, of course, Goodman had the origin of, you know, he was sort of the guy that was the spearhead of that kind of music. And he was born in 1909, and he was probably in his late twenties when he hit with that stuff. That's amazing.
[00:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. He was quite young. But of course, there were black bands that were there before, and somebody like Benny Goodwin made it more presentable during a kind of a bigoted era. Made a more presentable to white bands, but they were the white audiences, but they were black orchestras. Jimmy Lunstford and all those big bands.
[00:26:31] Speaker C: That'S how we got our name. I mean, lunsters big. First big record was had jazz nocracy on the flip side, and white he.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: White.
I'd forgotten that. That's.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: In fact, that was how we named it.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: That was his theme song. I never tied the two in together. Son of a.
[00:26:47] Speaker C: That's right. No, it wasn't me standing on top of the gas tanks down and Quincy saying, top of the world, mon. It was. It was the Jimmy Lunsford recording of White Heat, which we do. We have it in the books.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: Oh, that's a tough thing to play, that.
[00:27:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I know it.
[00:27:04] Speaker B: It's very fast and that'll right, exactly.
[00:27:06] Speaker C: So is jazz nocracy, which was sort of a sing sing type of thing before sing sing sing came on.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Now, have you been over rehearsing with Joel Gray for the Saturday night thing?
[00:27:15] Speaker C: We're going to meet Mister Gray tomorrow afternoon.
[00:27:18] Speaker B: And this will be the first time you guys are getting together with him.
[00:27:21] Speaker C: That's right. Well, we've done this. We do major acts that come into town all the time. We've done Lou Rawls, we've done Tony Tenille, we did Tony Bennett, we did cab Calloway down to Roxy. And I must tell you, I helped cab walk up the back stairs to the stage. He's getting along in years, but when he got on that stage, to me, it was like being plugged into another era.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: Oh, I would. I would think so, yeah.
[00:27:49] Speaker C: His voice was just the same. It was like being there, you know, and this was down at the Roxy. We did this big party down there, and he, and we rehearsed him and did cap Callaway. So we're going in there tomorrow afternoon, gonna.
[00:28:03] Speaker B: What happens now? Does Joe Gray just come in and say, here's. Here's the music. This is what I'm going to do and this is what I want you to do. And then you all kind of work it out that quickly?
[00:28:13] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, the guys in white heat are all road veterans of the Woody Herman, Artie Shaw, buddy Rich in particular. We have a number of guys from Buddy Rich. They're all top line guys that happen to live in Boston. And so we'll go in there and just, you know, do what they want to do, and they'll bring their book and whatever they want to do, and we'll work it up with them. I mean, they have some crazy doubles sometimes. We got guys playing baritones and bass clarinets and flutes and piccolos and things along that line.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: What, what is your instrument, Craig?
[00:28:50] Speaker C: I'm mainly a clarinetist these days. I've gotten lazy. I used to play, used to play the lead alto with the white heat. But since I've had some fine guys from Buddy Rich like Mark Pinto come into the band, I sort of stepped aside from that and I just sort of stand out front. And when I get a piece of some hot swing music, you know, just knock some clarinet down.
[00:29:12] Speaker B: I envy you for being able to do that. I would think that would be such a great release for all of us.
All angry people all should take up a musical instrument and get their anger or just playing music.
[00:29:25] Speaker C: Well, you know, I think that's. I must say that, you know, as a kid, I was sort of lost, and it gave me a lot of focus to, you know, I always just sort of had my mind on that thing, and I never thought I'd be out there in front of, you know, thousands of people doing that stuff. But it was a dream. Dream that came true. I mean, basically, we were in there. I think we probably broke the record for a post World War Two big band gig. We were in there three nights a week for over four years.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: That is. That is something. That is something. I mean, you don't find now the. How many pieces will be in the band this coming night and how many normally do you.
[00:30:08] Speaker C: We normally sport 13 pieces, plus me. Just the exact same size, the 1938 Benny Goodman Orchestra, you know, three trumpets, two trombones, four saxes. Goodman on clarinet, piano, bass, drums, and rhythm guitar. The full deluxe rhythm section. And we'll be having that tomorrow night with Joel Gray. We're adding four strings, so there'll be 1819 of us at least in there doing that. And it's going to be quite a. Quite an operation. And when the show's done, we'll be doing a dance set. And as I said, also we'll be in there New Year's Eve.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: Okay? Right. And we're talking Roxy, which is the Tramont house, which.
Yeah, that's right. People remember there's a Bradford. That's right. In the Bradford ballroom on Tremont street, right across from the Wang center, which used to be the Metropolitan Theater. Here we go again with things.
[00:31:05] Speaker C: Used to be that street in 1926 where all the, you know, it looked, you know, all the big cars are parked out in front of these various places and. That's right, the metropolitan. That's actually, we were just in the playing in the foyer of the Wang center last Sunday night.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: What kind of a function was that?
[00:31:22] Speaker C: That actually was a reception. And that place is pretty elegant right now. I must.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: Oh, that is. That is one of the most beautiful theater. It's going to be one of the most beautiful in the world.
It's certainly the largest theater in Boston. I think it seats 4200 people or something.
[00:31:43] Speaker C: It is the biggest. I've got to tell you. I went out to Milwaukee, looking around, I've always thought that the Roxy concept, which, of course, is no longer going in existence right now, but that the idea of using a really hot swing band that motivates young dancers to dance like white heat and alternating that with some more contemporary recorded music was a great concept. You know, Bob Stickney and Carl Christian were the guys who thought of this thing. And it worked like, you know, you couldn't believe it. Nobody would believe that this thing happened. And I was out in Milwaukee and we drove by a ballroom and it was sort of closed up, but there was one door open. So I went in there. It was the eagles ballroom.
And this place, the Roxy, holds 1300 here in Boston.
This place hold. Held, the main room held 3300, 3400. A huge oval ballroom with. With three quarters, but had balcony around the top with open boxes. It was a gorgeous place. In the process of being restored, of course, the Roxy, you know, was completely, you know, redone.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: I'm thinking. I'm thinking of some of the ballrooms. Like there was one in New York. That must have held several thousand people. I can't think of which one that.
[00:33:09] Speaker C: Roseland.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: Roseland, probably.
[00:33:10] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, we do Roseland. We do loads of that count basie stuff from the thirties, you know, the stuff that's sort of rhythmic.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: Oh, stopping at the Savoy, too.
[00:33:20] Speaker C: Well, yeah, that's, you know, chick Webb kind of thing. But we do Roseland Shuffle, Shorty George, which is named after a dance step of Harlem that probably came out about 19, 28, 29. Amazing stuff. You know, records and radio going on at that time.
[00:33:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. You don't have to convince me, Craig. I think that stuff is great. And I heard your band. I just love it. Can you hold on just a second? We'll take a little break and then maybe a couple people like to talk with you also. Absolutely. Okay. Craig Ball of the White Heat orchestra two, 5410 30. If you'd like to talk with them. We'll be back in just a minute.
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He comes from an interesting family, and I would be, I'll be at the Roxy myself. Be kind of fun to see how he performs. Anyway, there are a couple of people on the line who'd like to talk with you, including this fellow who's in his car right now. Paul.
[00:38:09] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Hey, you're on the line with Craig Ball.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: Well, one of the things that Craig didn't tell you is that he's also, prior to his swing tendencies, a lover of the traditional jazz scene. And I periodically find myself in the honor of his presence when I hire him, a buddy of his from years ago. And I'm just getting back from a gig, and I thought I'd call in and let him know that I had just been thinking about him this evening. Paul Monet. Yeah. Great coronetist.
[00:38:42] Speaker B: Lovely.
[00:38:43] Speaker C: Isn't that interesting? Actually, I'm going to be playing with you, Paul. Let's see, October 22, somewhere next Friday, up in my home country, here in Littleton. That's right. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Matter of fact, I'm trying to pick a readout right now. Oh, you're wonderful.
Well, that's no problem, Paul.
Well, look, I wanted to let everybody know that I knew you wouldn't espouse on your own abilities. But Craig is one of those few types that can switch off almost immediately from different styles. And there is a difference between swing and traditional jazz. And he has a group that he works. He worked and started with another gentleman in Boston named Dave McMillan, called the Dixie Cookbook. And it's a Dixieland style of music, which is different. Craig will tell you a little more about it, and he's probably the finest. Dick, you and clarinet player, too. I hope you don't mind me saying that, Craig. Oh, no, I consider that a great honor. That's my roots. Well, let's pray. I thank Norm. I appreciate taking the call. I'm just on my way out and I heard you guys talking and wanted to say hello.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: Glad you called, Paul. Thanks a lot.
[00:39:51] Speaker C: Good luck with Joel tomorrow, Craig. Thanks a lot. Enjoy. Looking forward to seeing you. Bye bye, now.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: Bye bye. Let's take a call.
[00:39:59] Speaker C: Isn't that funny?
[00:40:00] Speaker B: You just never know who's out there driving around.
[00:40:03] Speaker C: Paul Mina is a great Louis Armstrong style cornettist.
[00:40:07] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:40:07] Speaker C: He's a terrific player.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: Great.
[00:40:09] Speaker C: I worked with for years with him down at Betty's Rolls Royce in the late seventies.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. Here's Gene, who's calling from Weymouth. Hi, Jean.
[00:40:18] Speaker D: Hi, Norm. How are you doing tonight?
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Okay. How are you doing, Gene?
[00:40:21] Speaker D: Oh, I'm doing super good. Just came from St. Ballroom dancing.
[00:40:26] Speaker C: Great.
[00:40:27] Speaker D: And wanted to let Craig know that I had been into Roxy.
Do know some of the fellows in the band, because they play at bands that I dance to.
[00:40:39] Speaker C: Great.
[00:40:40] Speaker D: Yeah, we have live ballroom dancing every Sunday night out on the south shore.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: Now, where's that?
[00:40:47] Speaker D: Down in Rockland at the.
Yes, at the italian club. Oh, my goodness. Sons of Italy down in Rockland.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Now, who's the. What's the band there?
[00:41:01] Speaker D: We have various bands. Oh, we have a different band every week.
[00:41:06] Speaker B: You're talking about. You're talking about probably a relatively small band, but still a live band.
[00:41:10] Speaker D: Oh, live band. We have San Angelo. We have the entertainers. Oh, we have Joe McNaught. We have all kinds of bands.
[00:41:21] Speaker B: That's really lovely because, you know, I don't knock disc jockeys who come with their recorded quick and stuff, but it's so nice. It's so nice to dance and to be part of a place that has a live band.
[00:41:32] Speaker D: Oh, we have Tony Bruno, too, and he is excellent.
[00:41:35] Speaker B: Oh, he's. Tony is still around, is he now?
[00:41:38] Speaker D: Tony Bruno Junior?
[00:41:40] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:41:41] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:41:42] Speaker B: Okay. That's right.
[00:41:44] Speaker C: Actually, white Heat is very closely connected with the upswing of ballroom dance in this area. Of course, we're mainly a swing bandaid, and we don't really seek out the ballroom dance locations like Mosley's or Wonderland, but we actually do quite a lot of that material. And of course, you'll see, of course, actually, sometimes you'll see me in one of those bands or two, but all our guys occasionally do some pickup work with the bands that are the old line bands that are playing that material.
[00:42:21] Speaker D: That's right. I have danced in the Roxy three or four times, and I've danced to the white heat.
[00:42:28] Speaker C: The only thing I object to in.
[00:42:29] Speaker D: There is then they play the disco.
[00:42:32] Speaker C: Well, yeah, that's what we hear. But, you know, it was a compromise, and I thought it was pretty good. Pretty good overall because we did huge numbers of people. And, of course, there's people like yourself who are the people who know what dance music should be. And on the other hand, though, with the disco, that would bring the general public in, and then they would get a chance to actually stand out in front and hear a live, hot 1938 style swing band. And a lot of them turned the corner on that one.
[00:43:11] Speaker D: Realize how many younger people now are taking up the ballroom dance?
[00:43:15] Speaker C: Absolutely. Yeah. It's amazing. It's all over all the campuses, you know, the swing dance clubs, and actually mainly ballroom dance club. It's interesting thing, you know, swing dance originally, you know, Norm Nathan knows this because he's, well, more or less that generation.
[00:43:35] Speaker D: Norm and I are of the same generation, so.
[00:43:38] Speaker C: But, I mean, you know, back in 1935, 36, 37 is. Is when, you know, Goodman and Basie and all those guys were coming up and. And that they basically were the cool. Not cool, but the hot guys.
[00:43:53] Speaker D: That's right.
[00:43:54] Speaker C: Versus the ballroom dance types. Now, of course, ballroom dance now has come to incorporate the swing dance with it. So it's all part of one thing now.
[00:44:04] Speaker D: I mean, Harry, James, all of them.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Really?
[00:44:06] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, thank you very much for calling, Gene. Nice to talk with you.
[00:44:10] Speaker D: We'll see you, Jeff.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Perhaps we'll dance together in that little cafe over the rainbow.
[00:44:16] Speaker C: That's right.
[00:44:17] Speaker B: Hey, Craig, it's been a pleasure to have you on. I look forward to catching it. Not only Saturday night, but then many, many nights to come. You in the white heat?
[00:44:26] Speaker C: Yeah. I love talking to you. I must say, when I first started listening to non rock and roll stuff when I was a kid, it was Felix Grant on WMAL, and I've always thought of you in those terms.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: Oh, really? Are you from Washington, DC? Oh, you're from Washington. Oh, yeah.
[00:44:40] Speaker C: He just passed away and tenderly was his theme song. And every time I hear you on the radio, I think that's Boston's Felix.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Okay, thanks a lot. Appreciate talking to. See you later on, Craig. Thanks for coming on. Bye. Okay, coming up to the news, here's the way I see the next few minutes. We're gonna do the news, then we're gonna come back and take some more phone calls on any topic you'd like. Just, you know, just keep it light. But whatever you'd like. Two. 5410. 30.
When the music stops, it's time to switch over to WBZ for a check of the latest news. When you're in your car, program a button to news radio 1030.
Okay. And I. I'm probably the only broadcaster in the history since. Of radio since it began, who actually gets on the end admits my age.
[00:45:31] Speaker D: I think you're two years older than me.
[00:45:34] Speaker B: How old are you?
[00:45:36] Speaker D: I'm 65. I'll be 66 in December.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: December what? 18th. 18th. Mine is the 20th. I am two years older than you. You're right. Eight. We'll talk to you after three on the dumb birthday game, okay? Okay, take care. And we'll be talking with my friend Jack and Milton in just a moment. And.
[00:45:54] Speaker C: No.
[00:45:54] Speaker B: And Mary, who's up in Maine. Oh, is this a program or is it not a program? Have you found that to be so, Jack?
[00:46:01] Speaker C: I hardly recognized your voice.
You went to voice school?
[00:46:07] Speaker B: I did.
[00:46:07] Speaker C: School of the spoken word.
[00:46:09] Speaker B: Oh, do you remember that? The college. College of the spoken word.
I remember. I remember I was taking some broadcasting courses prior to my entrance in this high paying glamour business. And I was. I had a crush on this girl. In high school, since I wanted to impress her. I think that's why most people get into radio. They want to impress a girl or a boy. That's true. And I remember. I remember telling us I was going to school studying, because I want to get. I don't think she ever believed I ever would. I wasn't so sure myself. But she said, are you going to voice college? And I thought, boy, doesn't that give it a dignity? That does not deserve voice college. Yes, I am. We're learning how to lower our voices like this and how to talk at a high pitch and how to talk like Mason Adams and how to resonate, like how. Resonating. I'm resonating right now. Who's the lawyer?
[00:47:06] Speaker C: Who's the lawyer that resonates all the time?
[00:47:09] Speaker B: I don't know who you're talking.
Oh, yeah, no, yeah, that's right. Neil Chayette.
[00:47:15] Speaker C: Oh, he's a great resonator.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: Yes, he's one of the best resonators in the business. He's a model for people who want to resonate.
[00:47:22] Speaker C: Well, did you ever hear the story that the guy on Prairie home companion told about when he was in college? He finally thought he had reached the top of the ladder where he was running the campus radio station.
And for three months, for six months, he broadcast faithfully, you know, and made clever remarks and everything, only to find out after six months of the power was never on.
[00:47:53] Speaker B: Really?
[00:47:54] Speaker C: That was all right. I. Well, you talk.
[00:47:56] Speaker B: That was. That was. What's his. What's his name? I'll. Garrison Keela. Garrison Keeley. You know, his real name is Gary.
[00:48:03] Speaker C: Gary.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: Gary. But he thought that wasn't dignified enough, so he changed it to Garrison.
[00:48:08] Speaker C: That would be just like him.
[00:48:09] Speaker B: What can I change my name to be? For the front name to be more. Well, Norman is. Is sort of better than Norman. No, but that's a totally different name. You see, I was just thinking of maybe Norman a little more. More formal and fancy, like from Gary to Garrison.
[00:48:25] Speaker C: How about Norristar?
Who? Norristar.
[00:48:29] Speaker B: Norris. Norrister would be good.
[00:48:33] Speaker C: Norrister.
[00:48:36] Speaker B: Wakeley. Norrister Chambers. Wakeley the third.
Then overdoing it, you think, a little bit.
[00:48:43] Speaker C: Oh, Tetherington. Tetherington, I think, would be a better.
[00:48:47] Speaker B: It'd be kind of tough to go back to Vine street and ever. And see the kids I grew up with and tell them my new name. You know, what they would do. Because those kids never, never got any older. They're all. They're all still about 1213 years old.
[00:49:00] Speaker C: You wouldn't have reached the end of the street.
You wouldn't made it to the end of the street.
[00:49:05] Speaker B: No, I was lucky I made it to the end of the street when I did get. Considering the fact that I wore glasses and played the violin.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: Is that right?
[00:49:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:49:15] Speaker C: But you would take. You were taking that Charles Atlas course, didn't you?
[00:49:18] Speaker B: I was a tough guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were soft spoken.
[00:49:23] Speaker C: You were soft spoken.
[00:49:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:49:24] Speaker C: But you had a body of tempered steel.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:49:28] Speaker C: Under that thick. Under that thick black head of curly hair and those hon rimmed glasses.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: X ray specs they were, you know.
[00:49:37] Speaker C: Yeah. Resided very dangerous individual.
[00:49:40] Speaker B: I was dangerous.
[00:49:42] Speaker C: By the way, we're talking about ghost stories.
[00:49:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we were. I do recall we were talking earlier tonight and. Yeah, we were also talking about meatball sandwiches. Can you tie that in?
[00:49:53] Speaker C: No, I have a good ghost story for if you want to hear it.
[00:49:56] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:49:57] Speaker C: This is.
[00:49:57] Speaker B: You might if Tony Nesbitt listens in, too.
[00:50:00] Speaker C: Oh, he can? Yeah, sure.
[00:50:01] Speaker B: How you doing, Jack?
[00:50:02] Speaker C: Hi, Jack. I mean, Tony.
I'm looking in the mirror here.
[00:50:08] Speaker B: Let's see.
[00:50:10] Speaker C: I do this. I look in the mirror when I'm on the telephone to improve my telephone personality.
[00:50:15] Speaker B: Some people do that expression. I do that, too, and it's just a reflection of my love.
[00:50:21] Speaker C: When I smoked, I tried to. Well, he does the story of Albert and the lion. Albert coming back from the zoo after he was regurgitated. And there was a third story that he did about Albert going to the Tower of London and seeing the ghosts.
And if you want to hear part of it, it's funny, but if you don't, it's all right.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: But if the whole of it is not funny, it is funny. Oh, the whole thing. Okay, now, can it be summed up and, you know, like, while we're still on the air, before we go off at or five or whatever.
[00:50:56] Speaker C: Oh, it'd take about five minutes.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: Five minutes?
[00:50:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:51:00] Speaker B: That's kind of long. You know. Could you sum it up maybe. Maybe in about a minute or so. What do you think?
[00:51:06] Speaker C: Uh, well, in a minute. Let's see what we can do. In a minute.
[00:51:09] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:51:10] Speaker C: All right. Let's just. Here we go.
[00:51:12] Speaker B: Okay. Here we go. Okay. Okay.
[00:51:16] Speaker C: I build the old chap with alarm.
[00:51:19] Speaker B: Oh, you're playing a record. Going to tell the stuff. Yeah.
This is good because you can't understand it. So this is good radio.
You could sum it up if he just put it fast forward.
That's really great. We can't understand the words and the quality is not great, but it makes a good radio. It's not. It's nothing. Bringing fear into the hands of other programs that may be on the air right this moment.
[00:51:51] Speaker C: Now, to add up, to give you the synopsis of what actually happened, Albert learns from the beefeater that the ghost of Jane Grey comes on Friday at midnight. So Albert waits with a stick with his horse as that handle, and his mother and father are there with him. And the ghost shows up, the axeman shows up, and Lady Jane Grey. And she's being chased around the tower by the axeman. They see the axe flashing, the moonlight, you know, and since she didn't have any head, they were wondering what next he was going to prune.
So anyway, when the axman catches sight of Albert, he comes after Albert. But Albert had this sandwich of coal dripping toast and hit the ghost right in the face with the. With the wet side down. And the ghost disappeared with a scream of despair. And they figure that since the ghost had been a beefeater, he fled from shame because it was pork.
The dripping toast was pork. But it was a funny story. It was really a funny story. And Stanley Holloway, of course, he's a funny when you get used to his voice. But you remember him from. From my fair lady?
[00:53:07] Speaker B: Oh, sure. Yes, I do. Yes. Yes, he was. Oh, that was. That was probably one of the most perfect musicals ever written.
[00:53:13] Speaker C: Oh, I play that about at least once or twice a week. The lyrics are just great.
[00:53:18] Speaker B: Do you really? You play that once or twice every week and you've been doing that for years.
[00:53:23] Speaker C: Yes, I have. And I know just about the whole thing, and I bore everybody by reciting it at times. But. So I'm getting disciplined, though. I stick to short pieces, like Casey's return, and that's all. Casey's return.
[00:53:37] Speaker B: Oh, Casey's. Casey the bat.
[00:53:39] Speaker C: Yeah. But Rex Harrison was just terrific. Everybody was terrific.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: Oh, perfect. My only regret is I saw Rex Harrison on a.
Not a rerun, what do you call them? Revival. Yeah, revival. And he just. He just was too old at that point, and he looked tired and he wasn't springing around the stage like he did the first time around when he was just untouchable. He was something special then.
[00:54:07] Speaker C: Well, he was a springy guy. How many times was he married? About seven times.
[00:54:12] Speaker B: I'm not sure. He know, one of his wives was a woman named Kate Kendall. Do you remember her? Comedian. Beautiful, beautiful lady. Beautiful and very funny. She was in a screamer. He died very young. While they were married. I don't know. I know he's married about three times anyway. Maybe more than that. I'm not sure.
[00:54:30] Speaker C: Well, he was like Calvin, you know, and. Calvin and Hobbes.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:54:35] Speaker C: Last night he had. He said to the lion, he was looking at tv and he said, now, here's a great story on tv. He says, here's guy. He didn't like his job, so he quit. Now he climbs rocks, and now he's really got life by the throat and lives on his own terms.
So the lion says, well, if he quit his job, how can he afford those expensive looking mountain boots that he has? Al, Calvin says, well, maybe his mom bought them. Is he going to pay the darkness bill when he falls that rock?
[00:55:08] Speaker B: Jack, you have one of the stranger senses of you. Anybody I know? Admit that one struck me.
[00:55:15] Speaker C: I'll let you go before I really wreck the whole program.
[00:55:18] Speaker B: Okay, Jack. Thanks a lot. Bye bye.
Let's go to Mary, who's up in Maine. Hi, Mary.
[00:55:25] Speaker D: I know. I'm. Long time since I've talked with you.
[00:55:27] Speaker B: It has been a long time. Let me check your records here.
Yeah, yeah, it's a long time. I wonder if you just sit down here on the table and I want to check you out. Okay.
[00:55:39] Speaker D: That's where I am. The kitchen table.
[00:55:41] Speaker B: Are you sitting on the kitchen table right now?
[00:55:44] Speaker D: Sitting at it.
[00:55:45] Speaker B: Oh, sitting at it. Okay. Hey, what can I do for you? As long as we finally got together.
[00:55:49] Speaker D: Well, that question about the song. The first noma was right, the second noma was right. But all I could think of was a few lines. I mean, words. One was come climb my apple tree. And that's what the last Nama said, too.
[00:56:08] Speaker B: Well, they were saying sort of similar words, but the tune, you know, I wonder if one was not the verse and the other was not the chorus or something. They sounded like they're sort of the same song with a different melody.
[00:56:19] Speaker D: Yeah, it seems the one I meant was, come climb my apple tree. And that's it.
[00:56:24] Speaker B: Come climb my apple tree everybody now come everybody come climb my apple tree around here, Norm.
[00:56:33] Speaker D: They used to climb the mulberry tree, all the kids in the neighborhood, but we had to cut it down a while ago. Must have been 100 years old.
[00:56:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Everybody now come climb tree.
[00:56:47] Speaker D: Hey, Norm.
[00:56:47] Speaker B: Sorry, we don't have the song sheets ready yet, so it's kind of muffin. The lyrics. Yes.
[00:56:52] Speaker D: I want to ask you something.
[00:56:53] Speaker B: Yes?
[00:56:54] Speaker D: I'm writing my autobiography for my family. So far I have eight decades.
[00:57:01] Speaker B: Wow. That's pretty good.
[00:57:03] Speaker D: But there's one thing I can't find out.
[00:57:05] Speaker B: I lived. I'm sorry. Eight decades. You mean eight generations.
[00:57:09] Speaker D: No, eight decades.
[00:57:10] Speaker B: Oh, wait. Just 80 years.
[00:57:12] Speaker D: Yeah, right.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: Oh, that isn't so great. That doesn't go back that far. I thought you were talking eight generations.
[00:57:17] Speaker D: Oh, no, but my family. No, eight decades.
[00:57:19] Speaker B: You mean you can get them back only to about 1910, 1920.
You can't find your family beyond that?
[00:57:26] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. But this is my autobiography about my life.
[00:57:29] Speaker B: Oh, you're writing a book about your life?
[00:57:31] Speaker D: Yeah. Uh huh. So far.
[00:57:34] Speaker B: Well, so far that's true.
[00:57:36] Speaker D: But you know. You know what I can't find out? I lived in the Dorchester section. The savin Hill section of Dorchester.
[00:57:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:42] Speaker D: And my father had nine girls and one boy. And once in a while, on Saturdays, he'd take a couple of girls to the ice cream parlor, and the minute you went in there, you smelt this sweet, fruity fragrance. And I can't find out what it was. Would you know? Well, you're too young to know, but sometimes.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: No, no. I used to go to the. We had an ice cream parlor where I grew up. We called it that, too. The ice cream parlor. Whether you're talking about the wire back chairs.
[00:58:11] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:58:11] Speaker B: The white wire chair and the marble countertops.
[00:58:14] Speaker D: Yes.
[00:58:14] Speaker B: And they would serve the sundae. Well, the sundies or anything. I was thinking the ice cream sodas, they would have these wire frame kind of holders. Yeah. And then they put a paper cup in there.
[00:58:28] Speaker D: Oh, no, glass. Jazz glass.
[00:58:32] Speaker B: Okay. Glass in there. And then. And the soda would go in there and they spritz all kinds. Wood. Yeah. No, the smell, I think, was from the different syrups and things. There wasn't any one smell, I think, was this. The chocolate syrup and the strawberry syrup.
[00:58:47] Speaker D: Yeah, but see, all that. None of the ice cream nom. But the minute you entered the store.
[00:58:52] Speaker B: Well, no, but you'd smell, because they've been. They've been spritzing all that stuff all day. Oh, that's what you'd smell.
[00:58:58] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: The syrups and all the wonderful concoctions. Sure.
[00:59:01] Speaker D: Oh, well, I thought, I guess if.
[00:59:03] Speaker B: You went into a fruit store right away, you. You. You smell the pineapple pomegranates.
[00:59:08] Speaker D: Uh huh. Oh, I remember them.
[00:59:10] Speaker B: I made that up.
[00:59:13] Speaker D: You know, when I think, you know, you don't get mad when I say this.
[00:59:16] Speaker B: No, you.
[00:59:17] Speaker D: I think if you're walking down the street in Everett with a big. Well, it would be a small violin case. Right. And the knickers and the glasses and a cap. Right.
[00:59:27] Speaker B: And a cap.
[00:59:27] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:59:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess that's. That was me.
And I looked. Just a dinner. Durable. You would have loved me.
[00:59:33] Speaker D: Oh, I got your picture. When you first came on, you said pictures were available and I sent for one.
[00:59:40] Speaker B: Okay. And we still have the same pictures. We never took another one. I like them just so darn much.
[00:59:46] Speaker D: Well, no, the reason I haven't called, I've had to sleep downstairs because of an illness a couple of years ago and there's no plugs in that room and I don't have a radio unless I have five extension cords.
And I've used the transistor radio, but it wears out overnight.
[01:00:02] Speaker B: You have no electrical outlets in a room in your house?
[01:00:05] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:00:06] Speaker B: Where is that room? Is it. Do you have a set a dungeon down underneath this basement like torches?
[01:00:12] Speaker D: No, it's on the first floor. It's a hot. This is a house that's a hundred years old and they're all ceiling lights. All they had in those days was ceiling lights.
[01:00:22] Speaker B: I see.
[01:00:22] Speaker D: But I'm going to have some put in because I missed listening to you guys.
[01:00:26] Speaker B: Well, I appreciate that. Or you can pick up a battery operated radio.
[01:00:30] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, I could, yeah.
[01:00:32] Speaker B: Hey, there's an idea.
[01:00:33] Speaker D: You don't think six. Attention. Six extension cords are too many?
[01:00:38] Speaker B: Well, you can get one night. They come in various lengths. You can get one long one.
[01:00:43] Speaker D: Yeah. 12ft.
[01:00:44] Speaker B: No, no, they're longer than 12ft. No.
[01:00:47] Speaker D: Can I ask you, is Bob Raleigh still on?
[01:00:50] Speaker B: Yes, he is. He still is on. On? What do you mean exactly? On what? You mean on drugs or what?
[01:00:56] Speaker D: No, no, no.
What is that, midnight to five?
[01:01:00] Speaker B: Yes, he is. He's on. He's not. When I take. When I take my time off, he fills in the rest of the time.
[01:01:06] Speaker D: No, it's the other way around.
[01:01:08] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. I forgot.
[01:01:10] Speaker D: Well, he's been on 13 years, hasn't he? See, I called him when my son, you know, I've got the son that's blind, disabled.
[01:01:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:01:17] Speaker D: And I called him. He was, you know, around that time. He came on 1980, and I'm still in this old house, nine rooms with just two of us rattling around in it.
[01:01:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:30] Speaker D: You know, it's no fun living with an old lady, even if it's your mother.
[01:01:35] Speaker B: What if it's your wife?
[01:01:37] Speaker D: Oh, that might be all right.
[01:01:39] Speaker B: Oh, that might be all right. Okay.
[01:01:42] Speaker D: Okay.
[01:01:43] Speaker B: Mary, nice to talk with you. And I hope you'll get those outlets put in some.
[01:01:47] Speaker D: Yeah, I will.
[01:01:48] Speaker B: Because you might want to toast some bread and do something down there.
[01:01:50] Speaker D: That requires in the kitchen. I have a couple, but I don't like to come out here. It's freezing out here. We almost had a fire a year ago.
[01:01:58] Speaker B: So you don't have any outlets and you don't have any heat there.
[01:02:01] Speaker D: The fireman told me to get rid of my wood stove that was two inches from the wall. Yeah, so I did.
[01:02:06] Speaker B: Well, good. Rid of the wall. That's right. Yeah. Just knock the whole house down. I think you ought to begin from scratch. I got to get going, Mary, because we have news coming up. Yeah.
[01:02:14] Speaker D: Bye.
[01:02:16] Speaker B: Oh, she really ended it even faster than I wanted her to.
Okay, we'll. We'll come up to news and then not only come up the news, but we'll have the news and then we'll be back after. We'll take some more calls. Two. 5410 30. Error code, 617.
Stick around, Tony, because I may want to put Robert from Everett on, but I don't want to talk to him.
It's 02:00 WBZ board.
Okay, thank you very much. We'll run through the lottery numbers in a little bit. Let's take some phone calls. First two. 5410 30. Greenie. Is that your name in New York State?
[01:03:06] Speaker D: It sure is.
[01:03:07] Speaker B: Oh, it's a lady Greenie. Where are you from, Greenie?
[01:03:10] Speaker D: Amsterdam.
[01:03:11] Speaker B: Oh, Amsterdam. That's what we've talked before. Have we?
[01:03:14] Speaker D: Oh, yes, we have a couple.
[01:03:15] Speaker B: That's right. I remember that. Yes.
[01:03:17] Speaker D: On that song there, what you said about one being the verse and one being the chorus.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:03:27] Speaker D: Well, playmate, the one that Kay Kaiser did was a takeoff from I don't want to play in your yard.
[01:03:32] Speaker B: Oh, I see.
[01:03:33] Speaker D: Okay, so about maybe 25 years beforehand.
[01:03:38] Speaker B: Okay, so there were two separate songs.
[01:03:39] Speaker D: They were two separate songs.
[01:03:41] Speaker B: One of one a parody of the first one. Yeah, I see. Hey, you straight that whole thing out for a screening?
[01:03:47] Speaker D: Well, I had both records. One from old wind up Victrola, and the other one, of course, was. That was around 1939. That guys are come out with that one.
[01:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Maybe somewhere the early forties. Anyway. Yeah.
I'm not gonna argue with you. You sound like you know what you're talking.
[01:04:08] Speaker D: Yeah, because I bought. I remember when we bought the record, it came out about the same time as. Oh, Johnny.
[01:04:14] Speaker B: Oh, that was we Bonnie Baker. Oh, that was one of the worst records, I think, ever.
Well, she know. Yeah, you'd be surprise.
How does that one go? Oh, lord, will you be surprised. Were you quoting us?
That's right. Yeah, they do it a lot of funny little novelty tunes like that.
[01:04:41] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:04:41] Speaker B: I. Can't I come close? I don't want everybody to hear this. Because it would destroy my reputation. But when we. Bonnie Baker sang. Oh, Johnny, I thought she had such a cute voice. I was one of these young, stupid people. I thought. Little cute. I went for cute.
[01:04:57] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. That's too bad.
[01:04:58] Speaker D: I saw a picture of her in the paper. My lord.
[01:05:02] Speaker B: She wasn't. Yes. He didn't look too terribly cute, but terribly.
[01:05:06] Speaker D: We either.
[01:05:07] Speaker B: No, she was a tall. I guess she was quite tall. Quite tall.
[01:05:10] Speaker D: And quite. Quite robust.
[01:05:12] Speaker B: And had a little, tiny little voice.
[01:05:14] Speaker D: Yeah.
I did like Orrin Tucker himself, though, for his. Like that theme song, is that drifting and dreaming. I love that one.
[01:05:22] Speaker B: You gotta be the only person in the entire world. Who remembers Oren Tucker's theme song.
[01:05:27] Speaker D: Drifting and dreaming.
[01:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. And remember. And he had a vocal group. Do you remember their names? What? He called the vocal group.
[01:05:36] Speaker D: No, I forget that.
[01:05:37] Speaker B: The bodyguards, huh?
[01:05:39] Speaker C: Oh.
[01:05:40] Speaker B: You know, that doesn't even sound familiar to you now, does it? No.
[01:05:43] Speaker D: But I do remember the scene. And I remember Tommy Tucker's scene, too.
[01:05:48] Speaker B: What was that?
[01:05:50] Speaker D: How I love you da da da da I forget the words now.
[01:05:59] Speaker B: Remember Kate Kaiser's theme song?
[01:06:02] Speaker D: I've grown so lonely thinking of you yeah.
[01:06:07] Speaker B: You remember all those, don't you?
[01:06:09] Speaker D: Oh, yeah.
[01:06:10] Speaker B: You must have been quite a dancer. Are you still a dancer?
[01:06:13] Speaker D: Not too much. But I was in the entertainment business, see. I was an accordion player.
[01:06:18] Speaker B: Did you play lady of Spain on a white accordion?
[01:06:21] Speaker D: Come on, Cantino. I'm not.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: Now, what did you play? What did you play? Everybody plays that, don't they, when they play accordion? Did you play polkas?
[01:06:29] Speaker D: Yes, that was my main standard.
[01:06:31] Speaker B: Really? Is it?
[01:06:33] Speaker D: You would have to be.
[01:06:34] Speaker B: Oh, hey, listen, because I've had a question about that for a lot of years. And I. I claim that there was only one poke ever written that you play the same one over and over again, but give it a different name.
[01:06:44] Speaker D: Oh, no. There was a lot of them.
[01:06:46] Speaker B: A lot of different polkas.
[01:06:48] Speaker D: Amsterdam is almost. Well, it used to be almost entirely polish.
[01:06:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And polish people like polkas.
[01:06:58] Speaker D: That's where they stem from.
[01:06:59] Speaker B: Mostly, you think, is the pol. And polka. Does that stand for Polish?
[01:07:03] Speaker D: Not really. Because there's austrian polkas, there's polish polkas, there's. There's either italian polkas, you know, there's different ones.
[01:07:11] Speaker B: But the Poles, you think they have the lead on polkas?
[01:07:13] Speaker D: Oh, yes. I would say so.
[01:07:17] Speaker B: Well, that's too bad.
[01:07:18] Speaker D: There was a time that everybody thought the only polka that was ever written was the beer barrel.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: Do you remember here was a guy had a polka band. Let me spell his last name for you. This is true because I used to do this. This polka program was sponsored by some sausage company, naturally.
Probably a polish sausage. I suppose it was. It was. Johnny was his first name and his last name was spelled W I l F a h r T.
Can you.
[01:07:51] Speaker D: Oh, my God. Johnny Wilfiret.
[01:07:54] Speaker B: Johnny Wilfiret was his name. And at that time I was afraid to say his name on the ear. So we would call him Johnny Will.
[01:08:01] Speaker D: His name was Whoopi John Wilfire.
[01:08:04] Speaker B: That's right. Whoopi John Wilfart. I suppose if you did, you were whoopied. I don't know what's that, but I thought. I couldn't believe that. When I saw that on the record, I thought, how else can you pronounce that? Johnny Wilfairt. I tried to give it another pronunciation so it would come out that way. But that was his name. He was very popular. He's one of.
[01:08:25] Speaker D: Well, the way we used to pronounce it was wilf art.
[01:08:28] Speaker B: Wilf art, yes. You're not fooling anybody with that, lady.
[01:08:34] Speaker D: Tell. Tony knows. But I hear him in the background.
[01:08:37] Speaker B: Well, you're now going to hear him on the foreground.
Hey, I appreciate hearing from you. Is your last name Green?
[01:08:45] Speaker D: That's why they call me Green.
[01:08:47] Speaker B: Son of a gun. And your first name?
[01:08:50] Speaker D: Betty.
[01:08:51] Speaker B: Betty Green, right?
Yeah, that's a nice name, but. But we should give you a stronger name than that. Betty Green.
[01:08:59] Speaker D: That's why I use Greenie.
[01:09:01] Speaker B: Yeah, Greenie is a little stronger. Yeah. Is your first name Elizabeth?
[01:09:05] Speaker D: Yes, it is.
[01:09:06] Speaker B: Elizabeth Green is. Okay, that's an executive name, right? Yeah, yeah, that's the same.
[01:09:11] Speaker D: That's still why I use Green, because.
[01:09:13] Speaker B: We have a traffic reporter named Joe Green. You know what Joe Green is in Italian?
Giuseppe Verdi.
[01:09:21] Speaker D: Oh, come on, Norm.
[01:09:23] Speaker B: No, no, I'm serious. Joseph is Giuseppe and Green is Verdi.
[01:09:27] Speaker D: Well, Verdi.
[01:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, so it's Giuseppe Verdi. He's got the same name as the italian composer.
[01:09:32] Speaker D: Yeah, I caught the name. That's why I said come on.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: Oh, I thought you didn't believe me. Anyway, I better move along because we have just so many calls coming in from all over the entire.
[01:09:44] Speaker D: I'm waiting to hear that dumb birthday game.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: You're gonna play the dumb birthday game?
[01:09:48] Speaker D: No, I'm not playing, but I wish. I want to get on some night. I gotta find out the leading nose and I'll do. Get on.
[01:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. See, people are handpicked by our selected producers. Do we full up on the dumb birthday game?
Okay, hold on. Maybe you can play. You're gonna be up through 04:00.
[01:10:08] Speaker D: Uh huh.
[01:10:09] Speaker B: Okay, hang on, Granny. I'll turn you over to Mike Epstein and the very lovely Sid Whitaker and his orchestra.
Thank you for calling and so long and make it a good day. Let's talk to. You want to talk to Robert? I do. Okay. Because I don't want to talk to Robert. I never want to talk to Robert. You talk to him. Okay? Okay. Okay. Here he is. Hey, Robert. How are you?
[01:10:32] Speaker C: I'm very good. But he, he did mention Bonnie Baker. Oh, Johnny. And he doesn't like the old timers. They're old ghosts over the hill.
[01:10:43] Speaker D: Who?
[01:10:44] Speaker B: Who doesn't?
[01:10:45] Speaker C: Norm Nathan.
[01:10:45] Speaker B: Oh, I'll have to tell him you said that, because he's not talking to you.
[01:10:49] Speaker C: Why not?
[01:10:50] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:10:51] Speaker C: Well, come on.
[01:10:51] Speaker B: I like him. I'll have. When Norm tells me something, I'll have to tell it to you. Because you know how it is when you're mad at each other like that.
[01:10:58] Speaker C: I'm not mad. He's my best friend.
[01:11:00] Speaker B: He said he's your best friend. Now tell him I'm not his best friend and I can't stand him. He said he's not your best friend, Robert.
[01:11:05] Speaker C: If he comes down to my neighborhood in Everett with that violin and those glasses and that funny looking hat, I'll beat him up.
[01:11:14] Speaker B: He said he's gonna beat you up. I accepted. Tell him I accept the challenge.
[01:11:18] Speaker D: Come on.
[01:11:19] Speaker C: You're bigger than I am.
[01:11:20] Speaker B: Wait a minute. I gotta. I'm the guy in the middle here. He accepts your challenge.
[01:11:24] Speaker C: No, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't hurt him. I love that man so much. He makes my day.
[01:11:29] Speaker B: Well, that's. Well, I suppose.
Why, how.
[01:11:34] Speaker C: Why doesn't he do old Johnny? Let me do it. I work with her in Toronto, Canada.
[01:11:40] Speaker B: Who?
[01:11:41] Speaker C: Oh, Bonnie Baker.
[01:11:43] Speaker B: Oh, okay. I'm sorry.
[01:11:44] Speaker C: I worked in vaudeville, 1949.
[01:11:47] Speaker B: That's right. You. You were very.
Tell him. Tell him I don't like him. I don't care about vaudeville. I just don't like. He doesn't like you, Robert. He just doesn't like you. I can't stand him. Tell him. I can't stand you, Rob. I think he's. He's totally repulsive and obnoxious. I'm not ignorant.
[01:12:07] Speaker C: Obnoxious.
[01:12:11] Speaker B: I don't even know.
[01:12:12] Speaker C: I only went to the fifth grade.
[01:12:14] Speaker B: The fifth grade.
Did you graduate the fifth grade?
[01:12:19] Speaker C: That's all I went to, but I became an actor. I was in show business.
[01:12:24] Speaker B: Yep, I know.
[01:12:25] Speaker C: If my regards to.
[01:12:27] Speaker B: Oh, wait a minute. Don't do it.
[01:12:28] Speaker C: Don't.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: Hold on, hold on. Now. When you were in vaudeville, what were you, when you told jokes, did the people think you were a very phony?
[01:12:34] Speaker C: I was sensational.
[01:12:35] Speaker B: Had beautiful blue eyes, blonde hair.
[01:12:38] Speaker C: I was 6ft tall. What happened?
[01:12:41] Speaker B: You had that, what do you know, like five, six. Your eyes and you.
[01:12:47] Speaker C: 66 years old. And I still want to do show business.
[01:12:51] Speaker B: Mm hmm.
[01:12:52] Speaker C: But he won't let me do it. Who?
[01:12:55] Speaker B: Your agent doesn't like show business?
[01:12:57] Speaker C: He doesn't like broadly. He doesn't like, like Scott's people.
[01:13:01] Speaker B: Oh, he won't let me.
[01:13:03] Speaker C: Scottish songs or Al Jo hates Al Jolson.
[01:13:06] Speaker B: No, he doesn't.
[01:13:07] Speaker C: He does.
[01:13:08] Speaker B: No. He likes Ted Danson, though.
[01:13:10] Speaker C: Oh, my work with Tommy Tucker. Claude Thorn.
[01:13:19] Speaker B: Right there. Robert, because, I mean, you're making me sick mentioning those names, too. Claude Thornhill actually was a very good band leader. Tommy Tucker was a schlock. I can't believe Claude worked with.
[01:13:32] Speaker C: These.
[01:13:32] Speaker B: He worked for the gentlemen. He probably came on after the band and swept the stage.
I did my act. What was. I had a good act.
[01:13:41] Speaker C: I tap dance, I sang.
[01:13:43] Speaker B: I did impression all while cleaning up the stage.
I want to hear an impression. Who did you do? Let me hear an impression. Robert.
[01:13:51] Speaker C: We had a few last sentence and get dick.
[01:13:55] Speaker B: That's one.
[01:13:56] Speaker C: That's just one.
[01:13:57] Speaker B: Okay, Ted. Lois.
[01:13:58] Speaker C: Oh, come on. Oh, come on. Cut out, cut out. Oh, my little baby smiles at me.
You know, Ted loses son, went out, did the act.
I don't want to tell him jokes. He is funnier than I am. But I admit, like Don Reckless and Jackie Leonard and he cannot stand my funny lines.
[01:14:22] Speaker B: Your funny lines?
[01:14:23] Speaker C: My funny lines.
He didn't go back to 1947. What was he doing in 1940?
[01:14:31] Speaker B: Norm, what were you doing in 47, 48, 45? I was working at WMEX. I was doing programs like good morning, welcome to kick conga music and a Latin. Did you hear what he said?
[01:14:43] Speaker C: Like Montreal, that's where I heard they.
[01:14:46] Speaker B: Play the record sometimes. I said 78, it's 10:00, it's waltz time. Dying for music in three quarter time. This guy have an illustrious career.
You got to admit it. I am very good sometimes. I introduce country and western acts like Jim Nevada and his Rainbow riders. Used to come into the studio every week in Chelsea, all the way from Chelsea and Doug Garrett, who was a western cowboy, came all the way from west, out west and Wellesley.
[01:15:15] Speaker C: I don't want to get here.
[01:15:21] Speaker B: No, no. You're holding it to imitations right now because that one was really bad.
[01:15:26] Speaker C: Is that bad?
[01:15:27] Speaker B: That was. That was awful. I'll show you. I'll show you what Arthur Godfrey really sounds.
[01:15:31] Speaker C: Do me Arthur Godfrey.
[01:15:32] Speaker B: Okay, here, now, this is me doing it. Okay, who's.
[01:15:35] Speaker C: Who am I talking to?
[01:15:36] Speaker B: This is Tony Nesbitt.
[01:15:37] Speaker C: Oh, come on, my best friend. Yeah, come on, Tony, for God's like, you put me on.
[01:15:43] Speaker B: I thought you knew.
[01:15:44] Speaker C: Is this Tony?
[01:15:45] Speaker B: Yes, it is.
[01:15:46] Speaker C: Oh, you're a genius.
Anything you do, Mister Tony Nesbitt, I'll agree.
[01:15:52] Speaker B: Okay, well, you.
[01:15:54] Speaker C: I swear to God I would not. I.
I told you we got to do a double, you and I. Two boys with lame brains.
[01:16:04] Speaker B: Is that a compliment? No, Robert. Here's my Arthur Godfrey imitation. Okay, okay. All right.
This, as a matter of fact, is not an invitation to Tom. This is the real Godfrey. And I've come back from the dead because I, too, hates you, Robert, I think.
[01:16:31] Speaker C: Come on, Norman.
[01:16:32] Speaker B: Oh, you're sure?
[01:16:37] Speaker C: Why do I like that man, Tony? Why do I like that man so much?
[01:16:42] Speaker B: I want to hang up on you, Robert, so badly. That's great, Robert. I'll hang up on you. Start singing me a scottish song.
[01:16:50] Speaker C: You hang up on me, Tony.
[01:16:52] Speaker B: No, no. Sing me a scottish song.
[01:16:54] Speaker C: A scottish song.
[01:16:55] Speaker B: Ready? Go.
[01:16:56] Speaker C: Honest to God.
[01:16:57] Speaker B: Yes, I know.
Oh, I've got a lie down. All this is a food credit.
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[01:19:44] Speaker B: Okay, let's talk with Dan in Boston. Hi, Dan.
[01:19:48] Speaker C: Hey, noam. How you doing?
[01:19:49] Speaker B: I'm doing, you know, pretty good. You know, what the heck?
[01:19:52] Speaker C: Most. The classic thing, you know, always driving home and I'm listening to you, and by the time I get home and I'm listening and listening, and it's just like, you know, it's. It's almost a dull subject now, but, uh. You're talking about the stained glass eye story.
[01:20:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:05] Speaker C: You know, it's funny. The other station, I won't mention it.
[01:20:08] Speaker B: And you said WBCN. That's where it happened. I don't mind mentioning.
[01:20:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny. They carry Howard Stern, right? And he had interviewed Milton Burrow, believe.
[01:20:17] Speaker B: It or not, and he was the.
[01:20:20] Speaker C: Guy who had mentioned that joke. And since they carried on that station, that's where they got it. And I thought it was funny that Tony Bennett, he was saying and all. And it's such an old line.
[01:20:31] Speaker B: No, see, it's a Fred Allen line from about 50 years ago.
[01:20:34] Speaker C: Yeah. But I thought it was weird, you know, with Milton Burles, one for stealing lines and all of that. It's kind of funny that.
[01:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Burles got a new book out there. Maybe that was why he was on.
[01:20:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:20:44] Speaker B: He's got, it's a paperback I saw in the bookstores the other day of his very thick book with, you know, just complete from beginning to end of the worst jokes you ever read in your life.
Yeah. What's it called?
[01:20:57] Speaker C: I can't remember. But he's, you know, it's like 2001 jokes or whatever.
[01:21:01] Speaker B: Something like that. Yeah. I was thumbing through at the bookstore the other day.
[01:21:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:21:05] Speaker B: And, and I kept thinking, I wonder if it'd be worth buying this thing. Maybe I could lift a line here or there. And I just, I glanced at it here or there, and it, you know, I. The jokes didn't seem terribly funny to me at all. But he.
If that's in the. If that's in the book, then Berle very well could have lifted it from Fred. One nice thing about, about him is the fact that he admitted he stole jokes.
[01:21:29] Speaker C: Yeah. They were talking about that when he was interviewed, and I guess that happened early in his career, and he wouldn't outlive it all, but he was actually pretty funny, you know, when he was. It was amazing. When you get Howard Stern and Milton Berle together, it's kind of a strange combination, but it actually worked out pretty well. But I got one question that I always could, you know a lot about the local tv, the old stuff. When I was a kid, I used to watch, it was like this creature double feature thing, and there was a character called Feep.
I don't know if you remember this.
[01:21:58] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Character called what?
[01:22:00] Speaker C: Fee.
[01:22:01] Speaker B: Feet. Fee.
[01:22:02] Speaker C: Yeah, it was like this little puppet, and it was in, this was probably 1961, and they'd show some bad horror film, and this creature would, you know, host the show or whatever. This does not ring a bell when I'm flopping here, but.
[01:22:20] Speaker B: No, no, no, you're not flopping at all. I'm trying to remember that. I don't recall that. I'm sure there's somebody listening right now saying, how come he doesn't remember that? He thinks he knows everything. He doesn't even remember that. And they probably know just what you're talking about. And they'll call, right?
[01:22:35] Speaker C: Somewhere somebody's ringing your bell, going, oh, my God, feet.
They're going to call up, you know, there we go.
[01:22:41] Speaker B: I haven't thought about feebas. That was one of my favorite characters. Remember those monster films?
[01:22:46] Speaker C: I mean, when Major Mudd started?
[01:22:48] Speaker B: Oh, he was great.
[01:22:50] Speaker C: This is right back in the early major mud stuff. But right about that time, I mean, I love it when I say bad, but local tv stuff, you know, it's.
[01:22:59] Speaker B: Oh, he was he. Major Mud was what, Ed McDonald or Ed O'Donnell? He was. He was a very decent.
But he loved kids and he had a great. His program was silly. Look who's. Look who's calling a program silly. But he didn't take himself seriously. He just had a lot of fun. Dave. Dave Rodman, as a matter of fact, was his sort of his straight man. He was an announcer over, over WNAC, which was the radio station at that time. How long was mud on for? When did he find. That was forever. He was out into the seventies, early seventies. I don't think it went that far. I'm the seventies early.
[01:23:43] Speaker C: You maybe went to early.
[01:23:45] Speaker B: When I was in third grade, I won a huge prize package off that show and got a whole bunch of toys and everything. Yeah.
[01:23:52] Speaker C: Wow.
[01:23:52] Speaker B: I'll be blasting you. I'll be blasting you. That's what they had a. They had us party for him. He was.
He went. He was going blind.
Eventually. Eventually he died, but they had a party for him, and just about everybody in town showed up because everybody loved him. He was a very decent guy. And I just remember his speech that night where he.
I'm choking up just thinking of it, but he really choked up. But he was crying and it was kind of his farewell speech because he died soon after that.
[01:24:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I loved it.
[01:24:24] Speaker B: But I remember him. I guess we shouldn't remember that part of him. We should remember him for the kind of wild, funny, off the wall, crazy things he used to do, which he did very, very well.
You remember the big brother show, Bob Emery? Sure.
[01:24:40] Speaker C: Yeah. And like I said, this feed thing, and I've mentioned it to, and I'm not to bore you much longer, but I mention it and occasionally people will.
[01:24:48] Speaker B: Go, oh, my God. You remember that?
[01:24:50] Speaker C: It must be this local. I mean, I remember being a kid and it was like this weird feet from outer space. You know what I mean? This, this creature thing. And it was weird. And I'm trying to find out some information about it.
[01:25:01] Speaker B: Okay. If you can stay tuned, I suspect we probably will get a call out there calling you. Well, something, you know, people. There are a lot of people listening. I will, at least, I hope a few people, anyway. And somebody will remember, I think definitely.
[01:25:14] Speaker C: You hit some ghost people earlier, but definitely have some people calling, some ghost story. That'd be fun.
[01:25:19] Speaker B: Okay. We're going to do more of that on Halloween, definitely. But we will definitely do at that time. Hey, Deb, thanks a lot. We'll see what we can find out about the fee.
[01:25:27] Speaker C: All right. Thanks, Tom.
[01:25:28] Speaker B: Take care.
[01:25:28] Speaker C: For you.
[01:25:34] Speaker B: Rich chocolate ovaltine. When my mom said I should drink rich chocolate ovaltine because it was good.
[01:25:39] Speaker C: For me, I knew what that meant. It was going to taste yucky, like spinach and broccoli. Boy, was I wrong.
[01:25:45] Speaker B: It was really chocolatey. I guess that's why they call it rich chocolate ovaltine instead of plain ovaltine. Rich chocolate ovaltine is a different kind of oval with a flavor kids love, plus extra vitamins and minerals you won't find in Nestle's quick or Hershey's.
[01:26:01] Speaker C: It's kind of like drinking a chocolate bar, but it's got all this good stuff in it.
[01:26:05] Speaker D: Things kids need to stay healthy. I love it.
[01:26:07] Speaker B: And my mom's really proud of me when I drink my.
[01:26:09] Speaker D: Rich chocolate oval team.
[01:26:11] Speaker B: Rich chocolate ovaltine with more vitamins and minerals than any other milk flavoring.
[01:26:16] Speaker C: It's the one in the canister made specially for kids.
[01:26:24] Speaker B: Rich chocolate oval team.
[01:26:26] Speaker C: Extra delicious, extra nutritious.
[01:26:28] Speaker B: Available in the nutrition section of Walgreens. Okay, we'll take a break and for the news, and then we'll take some more phone calls, and we will be playing the much heralded dumb birthday game in about a half hour. So right after the 03:00 news. And just hope you'll stay tuned with us throughout the night because we have so many surprises and so many wonderful things as soon as I think of them. Kmk.
[01:26:52] Speaker C: Right?
[01:26:52] Speaker B: N one. Kmk. How do you translate that into words?
[01:26:56] Speaker C: Kilo Mark Kilo.
[01:26:58] Speaker B: Oh, kilo Mark Kilo. Yeah. Cause a friend of mine used to be w one o m p. We'd say, w one old man's paradise. And are there any x y? No y else?
[01:27:07] Speaker C: Well, actually, I have one. I have fanatics for my call.
[01:27:12] Speaker B: You have what?
[01:27:12] Speaker C: I have phonetics from my call.
[01:27:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:27:15] Speaker C: No one. No one kicks my key stuff.
[01:27:20] Speaker B: That's kind of funny.
[01:27:22] Speaker C: All right.
[01:27:22] Speaker B: That's pretty good there, big guy. Good.
[01:27:25] Speaker C: Where is she from?
[01:27:26] Speaker B: Who's that, your friend? Oh, he's from. What's around here? I haven't. We were just kids. That's way, way, way, way back. We haven't. I haven't seen him in a very long time. But we used to sit around and we. We'd say, we are scanning the. Scanning the band. Is that scanning the dial? Sounds good to me. Looking for yls. Why else was young ladies ex Wales or former young ladies or in other words, misses married ladies? But we'd say. And calling for YLS and we never found any, I don't think.
Well, women. Women, at least the young women, least at that time. I don't know about now. They never be. They never were ham operators. Not too many of them anyway.
[01:28:10] Speaker D: That's true.
[01:28:10] Speaker B: They're mostly guys with funny voices right now.
Yeah.
So there's still ham operators around there? Yeah. How far. How far can you get with your set?
[01:28:22] Speaker C: I can talk out to Worcester, no problem.
[01:28:25] Speaker B: What about around the world? Because you ought to be able to get foreign countries, can't you?
[01:28:29] Speaker C: Well, no, with my license.
[01:28:31] Speaker B: Oh, you don't have a license allows you to go that far, right? Oh, I see.
What about receiving stations?
[01:28:38] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I can receive.
[01:28:40] Speaker B: Who's that?
[01:28:41] Speaker C: Tony?
[01:28:41] Speaker B: That's Tony? Yeah. He wants. How far away do you get stations?
[01:28:45] Speaker C: Oh, I can receive stations all around the world.
[01:28:47] Speaker B: Okay. Oh, you can, but you just can't. You can't broadcast that, right? Because I remember we used to listen and some old guys were guys. Hold on just a minute. Guys would come on and say, this is Wnomp. WMP. I just bought a cellar dicer ham french thing, and I hooked it up to my oxidizing ancient farm on. And I'm getting good reception.
[01:29:12] Speaker C: Now, that doesn't even sound right. But.
[01:29:14] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. I'm making up the names because I don't know the technical names for things, so I'm making it up. And. And this is kind of conversation they would have and they would spread all this. Hold on a minute. This is because I'm coming to a conclusion of this story that'll be so exciting you get goosebumps. Yeah. Okay. And they would spend all this kind of money so they could get about 10 miles further out or something like that. You spent a lot of money for your rig?
[01:29:40] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely.
[01:29:41] Speaker B: Yeah. What is it worth? You suppose my hc is worth about.
[01:29:46] Speaker C: I'm sorry, she means handy talking is worth about $400.
[01:29:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I would have thought even more than that. If you're, you know, if you can talk around the world and pick up.
[01:29:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I already try to tell you, but.
[01:30:01] Speaker B: No, I'll be quiet now. You tell me. Go ahead.
[01:30:04] Speaker C: I can't talk around the world.
New England, maybe Rhode island or New Hampshire, but that's about it.
[01:30:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:30:12] Speaker C: You know.
[01:30:14] Speaker B: You know, have you had interesting conversations. What's the most interesting conversation you've had?
[01:30:20] Speaker C: Uh, actually, um, I can. I can say it on the radio.
[01:30:26] Speaker B: Oh, how do you mean? Was this like a dirty conversation with somebody? Numbers.
[01:30:31] Speaker C: Yeah, actually, this. This guy used the phone patch on a repeater, and I. He called his lady of the evening to say that he could make it tonight.
[01:30:43] Speaker B: Well, you can say that on the air. That's okay. You know, that's okay to get a little deeper than that. No, I can't, because. No, but he couldn't use obscene language because you can't use that on ham radio anymore.
[01:30:54] Speaker C: Well, he used a little more than that.
[01:30:56] Speaker B: He did. He was flirting with the FCC.
[01:30:58] Speaker C: Eh, yeah, well, no, not with the FCC. Was the lady the evening?
[01:31:05] Speaker B: But I see. Yeah, no, yes.
[01:31:09] Speaker C: The reason why I called, I was gonna talk about something else, but what you said on your 03:00 news got me very perturbed. Yeah. And.
[01:31:22] Speaker B: Yeah, talk about it. Okay.
[01:31:25] Speaker C: Is that the.
Is the expertise mayor's son. I mean, the.
[01:31:32] Speaker B: Well, he is the ex mayor.
[01:31:34] Speaker C: He's.
[01:31:34] Speaker B: Because he's no longer mayor.
[01:31:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:31:35] Speaker B: Okay. Ray Flynn, junior. Yeah. Okay.
[01:31:38] Speaker C: The x man son.
[01:31:39] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:31:40] Speaker C: I mean, you know, who cares what he does? Who cares what he does?
[01:31:45] Speaker B: Well, it's just that he's well known, and that is his father's well known, I realize. And so he becomes a news item that way. You know, that's a legitimate news story. Yeah. If you were. If you were a very well known person, as I know you will be one, which I am already there. You are already that if somebody in your family or you did something where, you know, get charged with drunken driving or whatever and causing some problems, then you would be in the news because the location was.
[01:32:14] Speaker C: But the thing of it is, is that, you know. You know, the thing of it is, if he was George Moore, I can understand, but he is an important father son there, right?
[01:32:31] Speaker B: Yes. The important son of a father. Right. Well known. Yes.
[01:32:35] Speaker C: Thank you very much. And the thing with this is that why can't.
Why can't they keep this hush hush? I mean, I don't understand.
[01:32:46] Speaker B: I mean, would you want them to. If we kept it hush hush, you know what would happen? People say just because his father was the mayor of Boston is well known and it's now in the Vatican, they don't let the story out there. They're hiding it. It shows that everybody is pretty much equal. We don't hide stories.
[01:33:03] Speaker C: Wait a minute, Norm. Well, how would they know that to begin with, though?
[01:33:07] Speaker B: Well, the police who picked them up would have known that. And the police record is an open record. Anybody can look at it.
And everyone in the family looks alike, so does he look like his father? I think they all look. You look like Ray Flynn. I think they do. Yeah, I see. I see. You know, I wasn't trying to make light of it. They actually. They actually do look alike. Yeah, I remember. Are you all set, Robert?
[01:33:31] Speaker C: Huh?
[01:33:31] Speaker B: That's. That's the answer to that question. Robert, I know that we've satisfied you, and you want to go now, so thank you very much for calling to. I remember seeing Ray Flynn because one thing I remember about him, and I liked him very much. I guess I still do, except I haven't been in contact with him since he's gone to Rome. But I remember going to the theater and seeing him with some members of his family would take them very, very much of a homebody kind of guy. So something like this must really cut into very, very deeply. He's a very decent guy. I think, like all of his family, to behave and all that, but you can't control that.
But seeing him with his little kids, as I have through the years, and they were little then. A few years back, taking them to the theater is kind of just another citizen, was really kind of warm. It was lovely to see that. Anyway, that's my story, and I'm going to go to Ed in Boston height.
Hello? Does this mean you don't want to talk to me or what?
Okay, we'll go to Betty. And he was resonating. Yeah, that's probably a resonant sound. Yeah, that's. I never thought of that. How you doing, Betty?
[01:34:41] Speaker D: Hi.
Uh, can you hear me all right?
[01:34:44] Speaker B: Yeah. You're coming in really fine. Can you hear me okay?
[01:34:47] Speaker D: Okay.
[01:34:48] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:34:52] Speaker D: I was wondering if you could help me. I wasn't able to keep up with the news this week. I was so busy in school that I heard on the way to school and back home on another radio, which I listen to sometimes.
Something involved a research program done by California and the results of it, you. You can get smart with mosage.
Did you hear anything or read anything about that?
[01:35:26] Speaker B: I like the title. No, I don't. Do you know about that? I think I do, actually. Hold on a minute. I think our research department is going after that story right this very, very moment. This is what? A music. Kind of a music program, obviously. Are you a teacher, by the way, Betty?
[01:35:41] Speaker D: Yes, I am. And I. And I heard snatches both in the morning going. And then snatches on the way home. And I think I got it right, but I'm not sure.
[01:35:54] Speaker B: Okay. We also have Mike Epstein here. Epstein. And he, I guess he's, you're familiar with the story and we have it here. Yeah, the story came over the wires last night. Not last night being Friday, last night being Thursday.
There was, there was a study that was done that showed that people who listen listened to music like classical music, like Mozart. They showed they scored better on tests, they learned more, et cetera, et cetera. The downside of that was that the study also showed that after like 2025 minutes, there was no effect. So if you listen to Mozart and immediately take a test, you're fine. But if you don't, then there's absolutely no difference whatsoever. Oh, that's interesting. It mentions here students did better on a test of reasoning after they listened to just ten minutes of Mozart or a Mozart piano. Sunyan. Unfortunately, the effect was obliterated if they listened to something afterwards.
[01:36:51] Speaker D: But wasn't, wasn't there several control groups comparison? Like.
[01:36:57] Speaker B: Oh yeah.
[01:36:57] Speaker D: Like they did even better than those that were in total silence, which surprised me.
[01:37:03] Speaker B: Absolutely. You're right.
[01:37:05] Speaker D: And that the kids that listened to rock tapes really were at the bottom.
[01:37:14] Speaker B: What? Is that right? No, that's absolutely right. That's right, Julia.
[01:37:18] Speaker D: Those who listen to relaxation tapes fell.
[01:37:22] Speaker B: Asleep during the exam.
[01:37:24] Speaker C: Right.
[01:37:24] Speaker B: Few people listen to audio tapes of the ocean or birds chirping. Failed miserably.
I was thinking more of the, like the elevator type music. Oh, music. A music kind of stuff.
[01:37:37] Speaker D: And the piece was two piano concerto by Mozart and D major. But what I was wondering was, did you, did you see this in print anywhere or was it just over the airwaves? I would like to get, you know, what was the real, you know, something in black and white.
[01:38:01] Speaker B: If you take a look in the Boston Herald, I believe it's, we have it right here. It's on, that's Thursday's edition. This past Thursday, October Thursday's edition. Yes, there's a listing of it there.
[01:38:14] Speaker A: I'm still laughing at that call from Robert Norman I nsync. He and I just making eye contact to set up the Godfrey impression really cheered me up after a hard month. I hope that and the rest of the episode did the same for you. Looking forward to seeing you all next week. These longer episodes provide so many fun credits. So without further delay, closing the vault and leaving this world a little sillier than we found it.
[01:38:40] Speaker B: Four.
[01:38:41] Speaker A: Deep breath now.
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[01:41:38] Speaker C: I tap danced, I sang, I did.
[01:41:41] Speaker B: Impressions, all while cleaning up the stage.
